Jeff Fargo sits down with Athar Haseebullah to discuss the decline of political discourse in America. Athar explains why democracy can’t just reflect one person’s values — it needs back-and-forth, learning from conservatives, liberals, and everyone in between. But instead of debate, government and media have turned issues into soundbites, leaving citizens to follow the same hostile example.

Jeff points out that debate used to be an art, from the Romans and Greeks onward. Today, it often devolves into insults online or shallow attacks from bots. Athar agrees — respectful disagreement has been replaced with “simplified nothingness.” This conversation is about reviving the lost art of honest political debate.

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