UFC Champion Mackenzie Dern On Fighting, Motherhood And Finding Purpose

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mackenzie jern welcome to fargo talks thank you for coming in oh it's my pleasure it's um i i

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i watch mma a little bit i'm not like a diehard guy but i i was raised by a single mom and so that was the appeal when i i saw you and just watched what was going on and was like

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Oh my God.

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Like you've done something that most people will never accomplish in terms of your career.

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And you're just getting started really.

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Right.

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I mean,

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like that's how I feel.

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Right.

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Like pinch me.

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Like,

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you're like,

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Oh my God.

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Right.

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But also you have the most difficult job in the world than the most rewarding being a mom.

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Yes.

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Right.

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A hundred percent.

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It's like the most unconditional love,

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you know,

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where you just.

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do everything and you don't want anything when you turn in return you know the only thing you want is that you know your kid is healthy and safe and successful in life and happy you know what i mean so it's like you're not you're not like i mean it's funny because in the fight she my daughter she went to the fight and she's in the octagon and octagon and i gave her the bell you know i'm like hey like this is ours you know we got this together and she's all like nice but at home she's like mom you know i'm mom still you know what i mean so for everyone else you know they see me as Mackenzie the fighter and

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the champion,

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but Moa is just a mom,

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you know,

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and I'll always just be mom for her,

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you know,

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so it's just,

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it's really,

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it's really rewarding just to see her,

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you know,

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you know,

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like,

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hopefully she takes whatever I'm trying to,

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you know,

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like,

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be training and,

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you know,

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fighting and trying to accomplish,

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you know,

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what I can with her being my motivation,

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and she can have that for her life,

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you know,

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maybe not a kid,

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I don't know,

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whatever,

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whatever motivation we have,

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you know,

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we,

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everyone needs to find something that motivates them,

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you know,

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can be self-motivated or

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you know something else but hopefully she can take that in her life you know and whatever career path she decides what type of core beliefs do you hope to instill onto moa with how you live your life with the discipline and the structure and but also like you're one of the happiest people ever met in my life like you're always and that's that's also i think like a brazilian thing y'all are happy as hell

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It's crazy.

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We fight each other.

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We get in a fight,

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but we're all happy outside.

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I guess we have a way to spend our energy.

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It's balanced.

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But it's balanced.

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What type of beliefs do you hope to instill as a mom onto your daughter?

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I think the biggest thing that I hope is just getting through adversity.

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I try to give her the best life possible.

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Things that I didn't have or even stuff that I did have,

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I try to give.

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that to her but I don't she can't I don't I don't want her to think that things are easy you know what I mean that they just come easy you know what I mean so it's like

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I feel like she can see with all the adversity that we go through in life and she's part of that you know she can she she sees it she feels it you know what I mean um you know just even like getting ready for school you know we're like having to get it breakfast and getting out of bed and she wants to sleep 10 more minutes and you're like don't want to get laid and all that stuff get everything ready um

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so I mean I think just the biggest belief is just getting through adversity and keep going you know and

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just going after your goals,

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your dreams.

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You can't just give up after the first one.

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I have two kids and I have a stepdaughter and

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I love them all very much.

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The three words I tell them the most isn't I love you,

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it's figure it out.

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Growth mindset.

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No one's going to do it for you.

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And you've got to start learning how to do it yourself.

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I love you.

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I'm there for you.

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I will hold you and coddle you and shower my love upon you.

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Yeah.

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When faced with adversity,

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you need to figure it out.

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And I think it's one of the hardest things as a parent is to watch your kids fail,

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right?

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Like whether it's like on the playground or whatever,

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and you see like they're doing something,

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you're like,

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and your first,

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your first reflex is to go help them.

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But really the best thing to do is sit back and watch.

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Yeah.

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And let them kind of process what's going on.

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Yeah.

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And how are they going to overcome whatever adversity they're being faced with?

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Yeah.

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right 100 i mean i was one of those parents you know that like my mom will fall like at the playground or she'll trip on something you know and then the other one's like oh and i'm like no no no just like just let her be you know like obviously if she's injured you know absolutely but i mean you know what i mean like let she'll get up and you know she's not crying and she you know like they're not you know um

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trying to shelter her too much you know what i mean i'm like no it's okay and then i'd see the other moms and they're like you know they like help them up and she's Like...

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well mo and now she's six and she's like jumping all over the stuff she's like way

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jiu-jitsu and boxing and doing everything yeah yeah she loves it yeah she loves it this is actually the first fight she was coaching me during the fight you know so it's like usually she's kind of like emotional you know it's like even when i walk out she's already like getting teary-eyed you know she's like

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excited you know like not that she's nervous she's just no she loves her mom yeah it's like oh my gosh it's happening you know a lot of adrenaline um and though she's quiet during the fights you know and this is the first one that i'm hearing her in the crowd and she's like kick her

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Punch her in the face,

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you know,

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and I'm like,

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oh,

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she's getting more used to it,

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you know,

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and she's getting she's starting to realize,

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like,

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even with that pressure for a title and all this stuff,

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you know,

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she's like keeping focus.

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You know what I mean?

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Even when she's watching.

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And I'm thinking as a as a parent,

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like I don't practice jujitsu,

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but to me,

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jujitsu is like playing chess.

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Yes,

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because it's leverage and angles and pressure on those angles.

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And so you've got to be three or four or five steps ahead of your opponent.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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How do you do that when your baby girl is yelling and screaming in your corner in a motivational way?

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Because as a parent,

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I'd be like,

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oh,

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baby,

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thank you.

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But meanwhile,

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you're trying to,

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you know,

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you have hands on somebody.

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How do you balance that?

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I mean,

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the biggest thing with me and Moa,

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it's like we get our time together like right before the fight.

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So right before the fight,

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she's very like cuddly.

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I think it's just all the emotions of going like I'm already with my hair braided up and all like kind of ready for war kind of thing you know basically already in my outfit going to the to the arena and so we're like hugging and you can kind of tell we like get it out there you know

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I've had a couple fights where I'm walking out and like oh do you want to give Moa a hug I'm like no right now I don't even I want to act like I don't even see her you know what I mean and she already understands that just to kind of like stay in that mode but we're

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We train so much.

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I'm so used to training with her at the gym.

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And she's there.

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And she's like,

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you know,

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running around.

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And in the beginning,

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you're like,

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you're training.

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And you have to kind of like watch and see.

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But now she already knows what to do.

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You know,

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like where she can and cannot go and stuff.

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She's climbing on the cage.

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I was going to ask you that when she was a baby,

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when she was like a toddler and in the gym.

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I mean,

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and you're a mom.

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And it's like,

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this is my baby girl.

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But you're still,

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you're there to train,

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to work on your craft,

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to play chess.

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Yes.

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And to be the best that you can be.

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How do you do that?

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It's so hard.

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It's so hard.

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I mean,

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100%,

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I'm not there

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100%. You know what I mean?

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Like,

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you're there,

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but it's way different than,

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like,

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Weili.

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For example,

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she's the ex-champion of my division before she went up.

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I mean,

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everyone has problems.

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Everyone has life,

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you know.

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But it's,

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like,

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it's different when you have someone who's just training every single day and no kids and no…

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husbands or wives or you know relation like like they're that athlete lifestyle you know what i mean and being there in the gym and just having more i mean it's a motivation so the same time i'm seeing her and i'm like okay i'm doing this for her i need to focus but you're not there 100 you know you can't be you can't be it's impossible it's impossible it's impossible to be a good parent and

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to totally like disassociate yourself from your child yeah you can't do that yes there's There's always going to be party going,

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is she okay?

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I haven't heard her in a while.

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Wait a minute.

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Because as a parent,

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especially with little kids,

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when they're quiet,

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something's gone.

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They're up to no good.

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They're being naughty.

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Yes.

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Usually.

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Yes,

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exactly.

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They're getting into something.

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Something's happening.

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They're getting into mischief.

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Yeah.

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And here you are trying to freaking train.

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Yeah.

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And she's,

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you know,

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running around knocking over water bottles or something.

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Yeah.

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But she's been,

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she's,

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she's gotten good.

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We gotten,

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like,

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we worked a lot with her.

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just trying to get involved,

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you know what I mean?

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So she'll,

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like,

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help coach,

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and she'll come bring me my water in between rounds,

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you know what I mean?

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And then she'll kind of do workouts with me,

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you know,

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like little workouts.

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So we got her,

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like,

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really involved,

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and she loves it too,

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you know?

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So that helped a lot because now she's not,

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you know,

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completely running around.

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But,

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I mean,

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in the beginning,

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you could put her in a car seat,

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you know,

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like a little seat,

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which is baby,

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baby,

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and I could just have her right there while I was training.

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Then the mats,

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you know,

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the mats are good.

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She was learning how to walk on the mats,

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you know.

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It's perfect.

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She could fall down and there was like the big balls and she would kind of play with that.

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And it's like an amazing place actually for kids to grow up and,

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you know,

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inside a gym.

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It's like just,

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you know,

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like self-awareness with their body and getting,

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you know what I mean?

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They're very active in the beginning and the beginning stages of life,

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you know.

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So

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I grew up in the gym.

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Yeah.

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I just kind of did it the same way I did.

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You know what I mean?

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My dad had a gym,

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a jujitsu gym since I was born.

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And I started out like you'd put on a Disney movie in the corner while he was teaching class.

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You know what I mean?

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And I would just be like,

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you know,

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you're paying attention to the movie,

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but you're still like listening.

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Mount,

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pass the guard,

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armbar.

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And you're kind of like looking and you're seeing the games that he's playing and the drills and the warmups.

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And they're like,

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oh,

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that's cool.

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I want to try and do that.

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So I've just,

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we've kind of instilled that same.

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lifestyle for moa and it's it's helped me a lot you know i honestly i think i'd be way crazier if i didn't have her so even though it's a lot of adversity and difficult being a mom and i mean it's already hard to be a champion with no kids you know what i mean just like all of us are trying to get that belt or that number one in the world you know any sport i think that's the the

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peak for all athletes you know is to be like the number one if it's the olympics or world champion or whatever um but yeah if i didn't have her i'd probably be like you know

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partying and you know you know i mean like young and just have your own money and like independent and you know travel the world and you'd be a brazilian conor mcbrigger god bless him god bless you conor but conor likes to have a good time and that's that's irish like the irish like they have a good time too oh

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my god oh my god i was wondering because as parents and i've always said this to all my friends that are parents.

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It's we try to take the best.

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that our parents did for us,

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but also the things that were like,

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oh,

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I wouldn't have done that to me.

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And I've learned from that.

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And then I apply that to break that cycle and to be a better dad to my kids.

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What things,

302
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with all due respect to your dad,

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but what are some things that you do differently to parent Moa?

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I think what I do differently is,

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I mean,

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I think I love my dad.

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He's an amazing dad,

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you know,

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but I mean...

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I try and my dad's a great example as a fighter,

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training and everything.

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But I think because I'm a woman and Mo is a girl and I'm just I'm constantly trying to be like the best represent like best example for her.

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You know what I mean?

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And my dad was a little bit more like,

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you know,

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he never forced me to do anything.

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You know what I mean?

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He was everything was just like

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I took all the decisions,

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like choices to do what he does by myself.

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You know what I mean?

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Like I just wanted to copy him,

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you know,

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monkey see,

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monkey do kind of thing.

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And Moa,

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she's a little bit,

328
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her personality is like a little bit,

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I think because we're separated,

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her and her dad,

331
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you know,

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me and her dad.

333
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So it's two different lifestyles.

334
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You know,

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she goes to one house and then she comes back to mine.

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So at my house,

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I think I'm a little bit more like stricter,

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you know,

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than my dad was.

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And I'm just trying to like constantly live a life that I like hope that I can,

341
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she'll want to be like that.

342
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You know what I mean?

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Like,

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you know,

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just try and be a good example,

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you know.

347
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And my dad,

348
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he is a great example,

349
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but he wasn't like.

350
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he's doing until now he's like partying you know and he's just he has a young soul you know what i mean oh sure yeah you know what i mean so he's not like oh what's my daughter gonna think you know and i'm everything i do i'm thinking okay what would my daughter think about this how you know how would i want her to see me you know my dad's just like you

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know yeah i'm your dad you know he's just way more free and you know you know what i mean it's just i think that's the i try to set her up to be like a well-suspect soul

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successful woman when she gets older and things like and set those paths you know what I mean so I think I'm a little bit stricter and at home than my dad was and um yeah I mean I kind of tell her more the things that I think that she should do you know the values I think like today's days it's so easy for people to just feel like they can do whatever and they're entitled to so many different things you know and I'm like just trying to instill that in her like

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No,

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we have value.

355
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Like,

356
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how do we believe that we live?

357
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You know what I mean?

358
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And I try and set that to her at an early age as soon as possible.

359
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But I know when she's like older,

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her friend group,

361
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wherever,

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you know,

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it can go totally different than what we've done.

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But I'm trying to instill that as soon as I can,

365
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you know.

366
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I think the best you can do as a parent also is instill an openness and communication with your kids.

367
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So when Moa is

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13, 16,

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17,

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she'll come to you.

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Yeah,

372
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exactly.

373
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Right?

374
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Like that's when you know you've won as a parent.

375
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Yeah,

376
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exactly.

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I mean,

378
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my daughter is 16.

379
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My stepdaughter is about to be 17.

380
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My daughter is 16.

381
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And so we spend a lot of time together.

382
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You know,

383
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I'll see her tonight.

384
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And I always talk to her about things.

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And when I do it,

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my phone is off.

387
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My body language is right to her.

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No TV,

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no electronics,

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no nothing.

391
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I look at her.

392
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Yeah,

393
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that's great.

394
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Yeah.

395
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Thank you.

396
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Yes.

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I want to set the expectation to her that whomever,

398
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if she's with a man,

399
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a woman,

400
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a goat,

401
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a Martian,

402
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I don't care anymore.

403
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I just want that person to be good and to respect her and her time and her heart.

404
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Yeah,

405
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really good.

406
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That's amazing.

407
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Right?

408
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Yeah.

409
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And I just think that as parents,

410
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we have to do that.

411
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And it's so easy now to get caught up with this.

412
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Yes.

413
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That let this teach your kids.

414
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It drives me crazy to go out to dinner and I'm with my kids and my wife and there's no electronics at the table.

415
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But you see everyone else has iPads and they're playing video games and all that.

416
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I'm just like,

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what are you doing?

418
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Because you blink,

419
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your kid's 18 years old,

420
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they're gone.

421
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Off to college or travel or get a job and do their thing.

422
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It's so precious,

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the time that we have.

424
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And that's what I love what you're doing with MOA.

425
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bring her to the gym in a car seat so it's all that she knows yeah really is and i know you have a good balance in terms of having fun and relaxing but also okay now we're going to train yeah yeah exactly exactly 100 no i think that um and

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that's one thing that i that's hard for me is just because when i'm um like sometimes we'll go on the street and then we're walking and then people like stop to take a picture and there's some moments that mo was like happy and she's like yeah let me take a picture too

427
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And then there's other moments where you can tell she's like,

428
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no,

429
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mom,

430
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don't do this.

431
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Like,

432
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I don't want,

433
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you know,

434
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she just wants me to be mom,

435
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you know,

436
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and not be giving attention to all these like sharing me,

437
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I guess,

438
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you know.

439
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But yeah,

440
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I mean,

441
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I think just giving that quality time and just,

442
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you know,

443
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I actually I heard that kids for the quality time,

444
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you know,

445
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it's like

446
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15 minutes a day,

447
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you know,

448
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it already makes a huge difference,

449
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you know,

450
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and it's just like,

451
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yes,

452
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that's it.

453
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Yeah.

454
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How do you it's interesting you bring up when she's like,

455
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mom,

456
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I want my time with you.

457
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hot

458
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how do you handle that when you have say because you're a well-known celebrity you know in the in the you know in in the ufc my god it's fantastic and with all due respect but your ass went viral it was hilarious right i

459
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said it to blake i go well at least now we know about her and we're both dying laughing and with all due respect it's like but you're fit you're gorgeous you know good for you because you work hard you're welcome and but it's like so many people know you

460
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And how do you handle that when Mo was like,

461
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Mom,

462
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I just want you now.

463
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What do you do?

464
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I mean,

465
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just like kind of what you said,

466
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you know,

467
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when we are together,

468
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you know,

469
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and because I have 50-50,

470
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so I spend,

471
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besides half of my time,

472
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you know,

473
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then I still,

474
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you know,

475
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I need to get that time with quality with her,

476
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you know.

477
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But I mean,

478
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just,

479
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I mean,

480
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she goes to like the fights with me.

481
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I just try and basically take her wherever I can,

482
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you know,

483
00:16:37.723 --> 00:16:38.582
but it's hard.

484
00:16:38.769 --> 00:16:40.066
It's definitely one of the hardest things,

485
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you know,

486
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and just.

487
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getting her,

488
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like,

489
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try to go to school events and try and be,

490
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you know,

491
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I help out on her school volunteer and do all that stuff.

492
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And she thinks it's so cool,

493
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you know,

494
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like when I'm there at the school parties and helping out with the other kids and stuff like that.

495
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But yeah,

496
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I mean,

497
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I just did a commercial last week and she had to go with me because there was no school Veterans Day and there was no school.

498
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And so she went to the commercial with me,

499
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was there doing filming and everything.

500
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And you could tell she and I was like.

501
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We got to do this so we can go to Legoland.

502
00:17:09.427 --> 00:17:09.967
You know what I mean?

503
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And she's like,

504
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okay,

505
00:17:11.088 --> 00:17:11.450
got it.

506
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You know,

507
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like kind of getting through it,

508
00:17:13.012 --> 00:17:13.309
you know,

509
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but yeah,

510
00:17:15.052 --> 00:17:15.411
it's really,

511
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really hard.

512
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It's so hard.

513
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Have you,

514
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I want to talk for a second about Dana White,

515
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who is a big proponent,

516
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loves Las Vegas.

517
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The guy should be the mayor of Las Vegas.

518
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Like he's,

519
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he loves it here.

520
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He's talked openly about anyone that works at,

521
00:17:30.411 --> 00:17:30.661
you know,

522
00:17:30.723 --> 00:17:31.254
at UFC.

523
00:17:32.114 --> 00:17:33.426
If you have stuff to do with your family,

524
00:17:33.473 --> 00:17:33.911
go do it.

525
00:17:34.129 --> 00:17:34.286
Yeah.

526
00:17:34.832 --> 00:17:35.098
You know.

527
00:17:35.397 --> 00:17:35.577
Yes,

528
00:17:35.657 --> 00:17:36.597
your job is your job,

529
00:17:36.697 --> 00:17:38.178
but your family comes first.

530
00:17:39.137 --> 00:17:42.258
Have you ever talked with him and have talks with him about,

531
00:17:42.399 --> 00:17:42.660
you know,

532
00:17:43.078 --> 00:17:46.383
parenting and being a mom and everything else that's going on?

533
00:17:46.384 --> 00:17:46.516
I mean,

534
00:17:46.517 --> 00:17:50.422
we haven't talked too much about like in a sit down conversation now,

535
00:17:50.461 --> 00:17:56.469
but he's just always showed so much support about just of how much of a better athlete I became after Moa,

536
00:17:56.625 --> 00:17:56.875
you know,

537
00:17:56.922 --> 00:17:57.860
and how he's like,

538
00:17:58.188 --> 00:17:58.422
you know,

539
00:17:58.485 --> 00:18:00.266
how he sees that and he supports that.

540
00:18:00.328 --> 00:18:01.485
And he thinks it's really good.

541
00:18:01.547 --> 00:18:03.969
like just seeing my evolution.

542
00:18:04.285 --> 00:18:04.966
I was a fighter,

543
00:18:04.986 --> 00:18:05.286
you know,

544
00:18:05.526 --> 00:18:06.147
after I had her,

545
00:18:06.148 --> 00:18:06.368
you know,

546
00:18:06.387 --> 00:18:07.627
and how I got like way fitter,

547
00:18:07.729 --> 00:18:08.008
you know,

548
00:18:08.350 --> 00:18:09.748
after having a baby and just,

549
00:18:10.690 --> 00:18:10.991
you know,

550
00:18:11.030 --> 00:18:13.131
there's like this mom lying motivation,

551
00:18:13.155 --> 00:18:13.397
you know,

552
00:18:13.452 --> 00:18:13.991
behind it.

553
00:18:14.014 --> 00:18:15.858
Because it's not just you you need to worry about,

554
00:18:15.859 --> 00:18:16.100
you know,

555
00:18:16.155 --> 00:18:17.014
now you have someone that,

556
00:18:17.139 --> 00:18:17.381
you know,

557
00:18:17.397 --> 00:18:19.037
depends on you for the rest of their,

558
00:18:19.217 --> 00:18:19.498
I mean,

559
00:18:19.959 --> 00:18:21.084
until they're 18 at least,

560
00:18:21.085 --> 00:18:21.381
you know,

561
00:18:21.522 --> 00:18:22.162
so it's like.

562
00:18:22.959 --> 00:18:23.928
They'll depend on you forever,

563
00:18:23.959 --> 00:18:25.631
honey.

564
00:18:25.632 --> 00:18:28.444
We say 18 and we try to convince ourselves at 18 we're good,

565
00:18:28.475 --> 00:18:28.866
we're done,

566
00:18:28.867 --> 00:18:29.194
but no,

567
00:18:29.803 --> 00:18:30.944
they're going to keep coming after.

568
00:18:31.631 --> 00:18:31.866
I mean,

569
00:18:32.069 --> 00:18:32.819
you want them to.

570
00:18:33.233 --> 00:18:33.433
Yeah.

571
00:18:33.513 --> 00:18:34.214
To some extent,

572
00:18:34.395 --> 00:18:36.135
you want them to come to you for advice.

573
00:18:36.256 --> 00:18:36.477
Yeah.

574
00:18:36.737 --> 00:18:36.897
Or,

575
00:18:37.037 --> 00:18:37.276
you know,

576
00:18:37.338 --> 00:18:39.561
if they're down and if they take a gut punch,

577
00:18:39.998 --> 00:18:40.280
you know,

578
00:18:40.600 --> 00:18:41.522
how do you get through that?

579
00:18:41.523 --> 00:18:42.225
And to come to you,

580
00:18:42.522 --> 00:18:47.405
that's like the greatest validation of being a parent is that,

581
00:18:47.490 --> 00:18:48.069
Mackenzie.

582
00:18:48.530 --> 00:18:48.865
Man.

583
00:18:49.069 --> 00:18:49.412
Right?

584
00:18:49.490 --> 00:18:49.850
Yes,

585
00:18:49.928 --> 00:18:50.225
yes,

586
00:18:50.334 --> 00:18:50.584
yes.

587
00:18:50.709 --> 00:18:51.350
I'm excited.

588
00:18:51.397 --> 00:18:53.990
I'm excited to see how it will be of Mo and her 15,

589
00:18:54.069 --> 00:18:54.756
16 years.

590
00:18:54.757 --> 00:18:54.990
You know,

591
00:18:54.991 --> 00:18:55.959
I'm really excited to see.

592
00:18:56.350 --> 00:18:57.444
I'm hoping we'll get there.

593
00:18:57.834 --> 00:18:58.225
but

594
00:18:59.433 --> 00:18:59.994
Mo right now,

595
00:19:00.014 --> 00:19:00.875
she thinks she's like 20.

596
00:19:00.876 --> 00:19:01.977
I don't know.

597
00:19:02.137 --> 00:19:03.236
How are your kids?

598
00:19:03.297 --> 00:19:03.898
Were they like,

599
00:19:03.938 --> 00:19:04.496
how are they?

600
00:19:05.098 --> 00:19:05.277
It's,

601
00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:05.621
yes,

602
00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:06.039
it's,

603
00:19:06.199 --> 00:19:06.359
it's.

604
00:19:07.020 --> 00:19:08.106
Or is that a new generation?

605
00:19:08.199 --> 00:19:08.324
No,

606
00:19:08.863 --> 00:19:09.059
honey,

607
00:19:09.262 --> 00:19:11.988
I think it is something that as you,

608
00:19:12.965 --> 00:19:13.566
with your kids,

609
00:19:14.371 --> 00:19:14.910
if you say,

610
00:19:15.129 --> 00:19:15.246
oh,

611
00:19:15.387 --> 00:19:16.465
like my son is nine,

612
00:19:16.527 --> 00:19:17.434
he'll be 10 next month,

613
00:19:17.668 --> 00:19:18.965
but he's nine going on 40.

614
00:19:19.152 --> 00:19:19.777
Yeah.

615
00:19:19.778 --> 00:19:20.027
Right.

616
00:19:20.574 --> 00:19:27.684
That's a compliment to them and to their brain and to their confidence and their self-esteem that they are far,

617
00:19:27.793 --> 00:19:27.965
like...

618
00:19:28.317 --> 00:19:30.938
I didn't have my shit together like my kids do now.

619
00:19:30.939 --> 00:19:31.198
Yeah.

620
00:19:32.038 --> 00:19:35.259
My kids are far cooler even than I am now.

621
00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:36.196
I'm not cool.

622
00:19:36.282 --> 00:19:37.337
I do this goddamn thing.

623
00:19:37.923 --> 00:19:39.157
They're amazing.

624
00:19:39.259 --> 00:19:39.376
So,

625
00:19:39.540 --> 00:19:39.759
yeah,

626
00:19:39.899 --> 00:19:40.696
I think that that's,

627
00:19:40.743 --> 00:19:41.220
again,

628
00:19:41.837 --> 00:19:42.704
a true testament.

629
00:19:43.157 --> 00:19:47.876
I co-parent with my kids and have a decent relationship with their mom.

630
00:19:49.190 --> 00:19:51.270
Because we put our kids first.

631
00:19:51.590 --> 00:19:51.930
Yes,

632
00:19:51.990 --> 00:19:52.910
that's the biggest thing.

633
00:19:53.131 --> 00:19:53.912
Put the kids first.

634
00:19:54.272 --> 00:19:58.053
And I never speak poorly about their mom to them.

635
00:19:58.170 --> 00:19:59.068
I don't say a word.

636
00:19:59.709 --> 00:20:02.451
And their mom and I could be going at it about something.

637
00:20:02.529 --> 00:20:03.514
I never bring it up.

638
00:20:04.076 --> 00:20:06.670
Because I'll never disrespect their mom to them.

639
00:20:06.858 --> 00:20:07.061
Yeah.

640
00:20:07.576 --> 00:20:07.826
Ever.

641
00:20:08.108 --> 00:20:08.654
Yeah.

642
00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:08.920
Right?

643
00:20:09.014 --> 00:20:09.248
I mean,

644
00:20:09.295 --> 00:20:09.779
that's just,

645
00:20:10.108 --> 00:20:11.389
you have to do that.

646
00:20:11.592 --> 00:20:11.811
Yeah.

647
00:20:11.858 --> 00:20:13.576
And you're setting the expectation that,

648
00:20:13.873 --> 00:20:14.529
heaven forbid,

649
00:20:15.592 --> 00:20:17.514
if Moa has a relationship with somebody,

650
00:20:17.838 --> 00:20:18.498
and they have kids,

651
00:20:18.499 --> 00:20:19.238
and it doesn't work,

652
00:20:19.598 --> 00:20:23.040
she sees how you and her dad work through it.

653
00:20:23.321 --> 00:20:23.559
Yeah.

654
00:20:24.341 --> 00:20:24.458
Yeah,

655
00:20:24.501 --> 00:20:24.758
I know.

656
00:20:24.841 --> 00:20:26.239
Mine was so turbulent.

657
00:20:27.083 --> 00:20:28.137
My divorce was crazy.

658
00:20:28.262 --> 00:20:28.880
So definitely,

659
00:20:29.341 --> 00:20:31.442
I grew up with divorced parents.

660
00:20:32.278 --> 00:20:33.403
They split when I was three,

661
00:20:33.544 --> 00:20:35.778
and I had stepdad and stepmom.

662
00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:41.622
So all four of them would go to birthday parties and Christmases and just whatever fights they did have.

663
00:20:41.623 --> 00:20:42.137
If they did,

664
00:20:42.450 --> 00:20:43.966
I never knew any about it.

665
00:20:44.309 --> 00:20:45.356
I didn't know anything about it.

666
00:20:45.825 --> 00:20:47.403
So they did a great.

667
00:20:48.222 --> 00:21:13.064
job of just loving letting me feel loved and like welcomed at both houses when i would go back and forth and you know what i mean they just worked good together you know there was never you know my stepmom like helped raise me and my stepfather was always involved too and you know what i mean just it was good my stepdad would go train at my dad's gym jiu-jitsu and you know what i mean it was just like they would all go to my christmas party christmas and thanksgiving right all together you know and and

668
00:21:13.298 --> 00:21:14.619
When I got divorced,

669
00:21:14.659 --> 00:21:16.341
I thought that it would be something like that.

670
00:21:16.421 --> 00:21:17.042
And it wasn't.

671
00:21:17.043 --> 00:21:18.202
It was completely different.

672
00:21:18.203 --> 00:21:18.605
It was like,

673
00:21:19.042 --> 00:21:20.105
so it was a big shock for me.

674
00:21:20.226 --> 00:21:20.343
So,

675
00:21:20.585 --> 00:21:20.866
I mean,

676
00:21:21.663 --> 00:21:24.226
the biggest thing I think is just,

677
00:21:24.227 --> 00:21:24.593
excuse me,

678
00:21:24.609 --> 00:21:26.390
just like what you said is putting the kids first,

679
00:21:26.391 --> 00:21:26.671
you know,

680
00:21:26.749 --> 00:21:26.890
and,

681
00:21:27.351 --> 00:21:27.734
and okay,

682
00:21:28.195 --> 00:21:28.695
where does she want to,

683
00:21:28.696 --> 00:21:30.437
does she want to go to like a birthday party?

684
00:21:30.515 --> 00:21:30.781
Okay.

685
00:21:30.890 --> 00:21:31.515
Can you take her?

686
00:21:31.531 --> 00:21:34.015
Can you not try to have that communication and be able to do like the best?

687
00:21:34.016 --> 00:21:34.406
So that way,

688
00:21:34.796 --> 00:21:36.984
cause she has part of me and part of him in her,

689
00:21:37.046 --> 00:21:37.562
you know what I mean?

690
00:21:37.577 --> 00:21:42.562
And if I talk bad about a certain aspect of him or that he's like this or that.

691
00:21:42.858 --> 00:21:44.160
She's going to see that in herself.

692
00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:44.700
You know what I mean?

693
00:21:44.720 --> 00:21:45.341
And I did some,

694
00:21:45.361 --> 00:21:45.580
like,

695
00:21:45.681 --> 00:21:46.783
co-parenting counseling.

696
00:21:47.545 --> 00:21:47.763
Good.

697
00:21:48.084 --> 00:21:49.166
Yeah.

698
00:21:49.564 --> 00:21:50.666
And she told me about that,

699
00:21:50.667 --> 00:21:50.943
you know,

700
00:21:51.045 --> 00:21:51.263
like,

701
00:21:51.287 --> 00:21:52.888
that if you talk bad about the parent,

702
00:21:53.130 --> 00:21:53.310
like,

703
00:21:53.311 --> 00:21:53.748
to the kid,

704
00:21:53.771 --> 00:21:54.052
you know.

705
00:21:54.630 --> 00:21:55.029
It's one thing,

706
00:21:55.451 --> 00:21:55.654
like,

707
00:21:55.810 --> 00:21:55.927
us,

708
00:21:55.928 --> 00:21:56.170
you know,

709
00:21:56.451 --> 00:21:56.990
the adults.

710
00:21:57.052 --> 00:21:58.154
But to the kid,

711
00:21:58.170 --> 00:21:58.334
like,

712
00:21:58.349 --> 00:22:01.880
she's going to not like that part that you're talking bad about,

713
00:22:01.881 --> 00:22:02.255
the parent,

714
00:22:02.318 --> 00:22:02.974
in herself,

715
00:22:03.052 --> 00:22:03.334
you know.

716
00:22:03.474 --> 00:22:04.162
And that's just going to,

717
00:22:04.802 --> 00:22:05.037
you know,

718
00:22:05.052 --> 00:22:07.818
and she's always going to love her dad and me and her mom.

719
00:22:08.365 --> 00:22:09.927
So it's just trying to get,

720
00:22:10.443 --> 00:22:10.693
you know,

721
00:22:10.787 --> 00:22:11.130
have her.

722
00:22:12.146 --> 00:22:15.109
Have the best and most stable and I think structure.

723
00:22:15.349 --> 00:22:16.710
It's good for kids to have structure.

724
00:22:16.792 --> 00:22:17.530
Oh my God.

725
00:22:17.569 --> 00:22:17.913
Yeah.

726
00:22:17.914 --> 00:22:18.030
Well,

727
00:22:18.112 --> 00:22:18.894
it's so easy.

728
00:22:19.034 --> 00:22:21.194
It's so easy now for kids not to have structure.

729
00:22:21.335 --> 00:22:21.655
Yes,

730
00:22:21.835 --> 00:22:22.194
I know.

731
00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:24.296
With all the distractions in the world right now.

732
00:22:24.921 --> 00:22:27.640
And it's even harder now to be a parent.

733
00:22:28.218 --> 00:22:28.343
Yes.

734
00:22:28.344 --> 00:22:28.484
I mean,

735
00:22:28.859 --> 00:22:29.577
I'm Gen X.

736
00:22:29.905 --> 00:22:30.921
I'm old,

737
00:22:31.280 --> 00:22:32.280
but I have young kids.

738
00:22:32.343 --> 00:22:33.452
And so they keep me young.

739
00:22:33.687 --> 00:22:33.890
And

740
00:22:34.374 --> 00:22:37.937
I am like you present in my kids'

741
00:22:37.968 --> 00:22:38.234
lives.

742
00:22:38.249 --> 00:22:39.390
Like I plan on going tonight.

743
00:22:39.749 --> 00:22:40.218
I can't go.

744
00:22:40.486 --> 00:22:40.906
My daughter,

745
00:22:40.966 --> 00:22:42.468
she goes to performing arts high school.

746
00:22:42.728 --> 00:22:44.630
She got a call back for one of the performances.

747
00:22:44.931 --> 00:22:46.853
Needs a ride tonight at 630.

748
00:22:46.854 --> 00:22:49.154
Of course I'm coming to get it because her mom reached out to me.

749
00:22:49.177 --> 00:22:50.372
Can you get Alex at 630?

750
00:22:50.497 --> 00:22:50.872
Absolutely.

751
00:22:50.919 --> 00:22:51.239
I can.

752
00:22:51.380 --> 00:22:51.614
Yeah.

753
00:22:51.615 --> 00:22:52.458
So I'll text Blake and say,

754
00:22:52.482 --> 00:22:52.896
I love you.

755
00:22:52.897 --> 00:22:53.419
I can't make it.

756
00:22:53.458 --> 00:22:53.575
Yeah.

757
00:22:53.818 --> 00:22:53.943
And,

758
00:22:53.958 --> 00:22:55.685
but that's like your family comes first.

759
00:22:56.263 --> 00:22:56.443
Right.

760
00:22:56.458 --> 00:22:56.607
Yeah.

761
00:22:56.685 --> 00:22:57.138
Yeah.

762
00:22:57.200 --> 00:22:57.685
That's great.

763
00:22:58.029 --> 00:22:59.404
Do you think you'd ever have more kids?

764
00:23:00.700 --> 00:23:00.825
Well,

765
00:23:00.872 --> 00:23:01.935
now that I won the belt,

766
00:23:02.607 --> 00:23:03.263
I was thinking,

767
00:23:03.264 --> 00:23:03.575
you know,

768
00:23:03.685 --> 00:23:03.904
like,

769
00:23:03.982 --> 00:23:04.310
oh man,

770
00:23:04.325 --> 00:23:06.935
I want my focus is to get the belt to be the championship,

771
00:23:06.950 --> 00:23:07.216
you know?

772
00:23:07.794 --> 00:23:08.357
Um.

773
00:23:08.874 --> 00:23:08.994
So

774
00:23:09.715 --> 00:23:11.857
I didn't want to go through this whole process again.

775
00:23:11.918 --> 00:23:12.398
Now I would have,

776
00:23:12.658 --> 00:23:13.759
probably I would have kids,

777
00:23:13.799 --> 00:23:15.181
but after I retire,

778
00:23:15.201 --> 00:23:15.482
you know,

779
00:23:15.623 --> 00:23:18.365
so now I'd kind of just be more present,

780
00:23:18.381 --> 00:23:18.607
you know,

781
00:23:18.646 --> 00:23:23.506
I would like to be even more present because even though me and Moa were together all the time,

782
00:23:23.607 --> 00:23:25.170
but she's still kind of doing my life,

783
00:23:25.185 --> 00:23:25.716
you know what I mean?

784
00:23:25.748 --> 00:23:26.904
And even though she loves it,

785
00:23:26.998 --> 00:23:27.232
you know,

786
00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:29.560
but she's still doing my things,

787
00:23:29.561 --> 00:23:29.748
you know,

788
00:23:29.749 --> 00:23:32.591
I take her like to events,

789
00:23:32.623 --> 00:23:33.685
I take her to the fights,

790
00:23:33.686 --> 00:23:33.873
you know,

791
00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:35.841
so we'd have a good time and everything,

792
00:23:35.873 --> 00:23:37.420
but it's still my world,

793
00:23:37.435 --> 00:23:38.045
you know what I mean?

794
00:23:38.076 --> 00:23:38.216
and

795
00:23:39.302 --> 00:23:39.422
Um,

796
00:23:39.423 --> 00:23:40.383
now after retiring,

797
00:23:40.402 --> 00:23:47.565
I would like to be able to just kind of be like a stay at home mom a little bit and just enjoy a little bit of relaxing and trying,

798
00:23:48.964 --> 00:23:49.222
you know,

799
00:23:49.347 --> 00:23:50.667
spend more time at the house.

800
00:23:51.183 --> 00:23:52.065
I'm traveling all the time.

801
00:23:52.347 --> 00:23:52.487
Well,

802
00:23:52.823 --> 00:23:53.503
I was going to say,

803
00:23:53.644 --> 00:23:54.667
do you like,

804
00:23:55.792 --> 00:23:56.105
I guess,

805
00:23:56.151 --> 00:23:57.026
and it's a tough question,

806
00:23:57.027 --> 00:23:57.792
but I'm going to ask it.

807
00:23:58.026 --> 00:23:58.933
And if you don't want to answer it,

808
00:23:58.934 --> 00:23:59.386
it's fine.

809
00:23:59.433 --> 00:24:00.526
Cause I love you by the way.

810
00:24:00.823 --> 00:24:01.308
Fucking great.

811
00:24:01.309 --> 00:24:02.261
It's,

812
00:24:03.026 --> 00:24:06.245
do you know like how much left you have in the tank to say?

813
00:24:06.610 --> 00:24:08.292
I've got five more years in me to do this.

814
00:24:08.412 --> 00:24:08.971
Or is it just,

815
00:24:08.993 --> 00:24:10.815
you're going to go with your gut and you're going to say,

816
00:24:11.335 --> 00:24:11.917
you know what?

817
00:24:12.495 --> 00:24:15.319
After I reach a certain point in my life and after a certain fight,

818
00:24:15.320 --> 00:24:15.741
I'm just gonna be like,

819
00:24:15.742 --> 00:24:15.960
you know,

820
00:24:16.280 --> 00:24:16.678
I'm done.

821
00:24:17.139 --> 00:24:17.499
I'm done.

822
00:24:17.905 --> 00:24:19.366
And I know that's so hard.

823
00:24:19.421 --> 00:24:19.639
I mean,

824
00:24:19.663 --> 00:24:21.022
I just renewed a contract.

825
00:24:21.108 --> 00:24:23.702
So I just signed it like what?

826
00:24:23.843 --> 00:24:24.624
Six more fights.

827
00:24:24.889 --> 00:24:26.952
So I plan on staying or at least two,

828
00:24:27.030 --> 00:24:27.718
three years.

829
00:24:28.093 --> 00:24:29.311
I see myself doing it.

830
00:24:30.155 --> 00:24:31.139
I'm 32 right now.

831
00:24:31.233 --> 00:24:32.077
So I think about.

832
00:24:33.394 --> 00:24:34.675
I mean 35,

833
00:24:34.676 --> 00:24:35.256
I think 35,

834
00:24:35.257 --> 00:24:36.337
36 would be good.

835
00:24:36.458 --> 00:24:37.880
But yeah,

836
00:24:37.881 --> 00:24:38.060
I mean,

837
00:24:38.061 --> 00:24:40.540
I think it's just always about like what we can accomplish,

838
00:24:40.583 --> 00:24:40.880
you know,

839
00:24:40.942 --> 00:24:43.903
and what kind of goals and if maybe more goals keep coming,

840
00:24:43.927 --> 00:24:44.146
you know,

841
00:24:44.185 --> 00:24:44.724
but I've definitely,

842
00:24:45.208 --> 00:24:47.091
I'm already working like just trying to get.

843
00:24:48.130 --> 00:24:48.491
Like,

844
00:24:49.472 --> 00:24:49.972
how do you say,

845
00:24:50.673 --> 00:24:50.913
you know,

846
00:24:51.113 --> 00:24:52.013
getting financial,

847
00:24:53.134 --> 00:24:53.357
you know,

848
00:24:53.415 --> 00:24:56.197
stability outside of fighting and just having stuff.

849
00:24:56.298 --> 00:24:57.158
Mackenzie Inc.

850
00:24:57.736 --> 00:24:58.243
Yeah.

851
00:24:58.962 --> 00:25:00.118
It's not Mackenzie the fighter.

852
00:25:00.142 --> 00:25:01.283
It's Mackenzie the corporation.

853
00:25:01.322 --> 00:25:01.822
Exactly.

854
00:25:02.040 --> 00:25:02.548
Exactly.

855
00:25:02.704 --> 00:25:02.947
Right.

856
00:25:03.025 --> 00:25:03.142
Yeah,

857
00:25:03.486 --> 00:25:03.923
exactly.

858
00:25:04.142 --> 00:25:09.658
And that's what I the best thing I could give you free advice is in the beginning,

859
00:25:09.939 --> 00:25:11.658
say no to almost nothing.

860
00:25:11.798 --> 00:25:12.017
Like,

861
00:25:12.298 --> 00:25:12.595
listen,

862
00:25:12.658 --> 00:25:13.751
at least listen to people.

863
00:25:13.829 --> 00:25:15.923
If they pitch you and people that you trust.

864
00:25:16.686 --> 00:25:18.268
And or people that are,

865
00:25:18.348 --> 00:25:20.450
have a track record of doing really good things,

866
00:25:20.470 --> 00:25:20.710
but it's,

867
00:25:21.030 --> 00:25:23.292
it's people that you enjoy spending time with.

868
00:25:23.835 --> 00:25:24.335
And if they say,

869
00:25:24.355 --> 00:25:24.495
Hey,

870
00:25:24.593 --> 00:25:27.335
we're looking at doing this little thing right here and we think you'd fit in this way,

871
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:27.476
go,

872
00:25:28.101 --> 00:25:28.257
okay,

873
00:25:28.296 --> 00:25:28.757
tell me more.

874
00:25:29.101 --> 00:25:29.218
Yeah.

875
00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:29.882
Nice.

876
00:25:30.218 --> 00:25:30.359
Yeah.

877
00:25:30.460 --> 00:25:31.023
That's good.

878
00:25:31.024 --> 00:25:31.280
You know,

879
00:25:31.421 --> 00:25:31.780
cause it's,

880
00:25:32.609 --> 00:25:34.624
there isn't a game plan for how we grow up.

881
00:25:34.905 --> 00:25:35.452
Yeah.

882
00:25:35.453 --> 00:25:36.390
And everyone says there is,

883
00:25:36.421 --> 00:25:37.062
there's not.

884
00:25:37.890 --> 00:25:43.312
And some of the most successful people I know always say yes to something in the beginning and say,

885
00:25:43.313 --> 00:25:43.577
all right,

886
00:25:43.593 --> 00:25:44.030
tell me more,

887
00:25:44.421 --> 00:25:44.827
tell me more.

888
00:25:45.093 --> 00:25:45.671
And then you might go.

889
00:25:46.327 --> 00:26:01.000
not a good fit and this is why or you go you know what let's give that a shot yeah yeah that's really good you know i but i think that you're right because again like look at like you know mcgregor's got is it whiskey or something he's got like i'm killing it yeah oh my

890
00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:13.438
god yes and good for him you know but he's a guy that again you're a fighter so you're a risk taker already to hop into the optagon that's a risk already my friend and so

891
00:26:14.054 --> 00:26:17.058
The same thing is going to be in business as an entrepreneur to say,

892
00:26:17.638 --> 00:26:17.817
okay,

893
00:26:17.878 --> 00:26:19.220
what's something I'm passionate about?

894
00:26:19.860 --> 00:26:22.524
And I know it might be like a line of,

895
00:26:23.024 --> 00:26:23.267
you know,

896
00:26:23.321 --> 00:26:24.102
of MMA gear.

897
00:26:24.165 --> 00:26:24.688
Bikinis.

898
00:26:24.868 --> 00:26:25.884
Or bikinis.

899
00:26:26.423 --> 00:26:27.368
Yeah,

900
00:26:27.431 --> 00:26:28.931
I would really like to get into that.

901
00:26:28.985 --> 00:26:29.610
Like bikini,

902
00:26:29.611 --> 00:26:34.188
have my own bikini line or even just like a limited edition or something like that.

903
00:26:34.220 --> 00:26:34.454
You know,

904
00:26:34.517 --> 00:26:35.376
a partnership.

905
00:26:37.110 --> 00:26:37.235
Yeah,

906
00:26:37.236 --> 00:26:37.798
and things like that,

907
00:26:37.813 --> 00:26:38.063
you know.

908
00:26:38.438 --> 00:26:39.339
Outside of fighting too,

909
00:26:39.659 --> 00:26:40.080
of course,

910
00:26:40.100 --> 00:26:43.264
maybe some gloves or workout clothes too,

911
00:26:43.265 --> 00:26:43.541
you know.

912
00:26:43.662 --> 00:26:46.729
But kind of just the other part of McKenzie that's like,

913
00:26:46.730 --> 00:26:46.924
you know,

914
00:26:47.026 --> 00:26:47.705
beach and,

915
00:26:48.049 --> 00:26:48.346
you know,

916
00:26:49.908 --> 00:26:50.807
dancing.

917
00:26:51.494 --> 00:26:51.729
You know,

918
00:26:51.752 --> 00:26:52.354
I like wine.

919
00:26:52.369 --> 00:26:53.049
I love wine.

920
00:26:53.072 --> 00:26:56.932
So maybe I like to get like a vineyard and have like make a wine company.

921
00:26:57.994 --> 00:26:58.697
And it's also,

922
00:26:59.104 --> 00:26:59.385
you know,

923
00:26:59.479 --> 00:26:59.994
you have,

924
00:27:00.713 --> 00:27:01.182
like you said,

925
00:27:01.213 --> 00:27:03.666
like another three years-ish,

926
00:27:03.760 --> 00:27:04.151
maybe more,

927
00:27:04.182 --> 00:27:04.666
maybe less,

928
00:27:05.901 --> 00:27:06.526
to make your money.

929
00:27:07.314 --> 00:27:10.177
Like the base of your money that's going to carry you through to be like,

930
00:27:10.216 --> 00:27:10.418
okay,

931
00:27:10.517 --> 00:27:13.140
what can I do in that time to also plant seeds?

932
00:27:13.761 --> 00:27:14.000
You know,

933
00:27:14.101 --> 00:27:14.601
you're a farmer.

934
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:19.929
I'm going to plant more seeds of different things and then see what bears fruit.

935
00:27:20.226 --> 00:27:20.390
Yep.

936
00:27:20.726 --> 00:27:21.570
And what goes from there.

937
00:27:21.851 --> 00:27:21.968
Yep.

938
00:27:22.250 --> 00:27:22.929
A hundred percent.

939
00:27:23.093 --> 00:27:23.328
Right?

940
00:27:23.343 --> 00:27:23.687
For sure.

941
00:27:24.031 --> 00:27:24.156
Yeah,

942
00:27:24.250 --> 00:27:24.609
definitely.

943
00:27:24.672 --> 00:27:24.937
I mean,

944
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:26.906
I think going into the UFC,

945
00:27:27.093 --> 00:27:27.922
like starting MMA,

946
00:27:28.047 --> 00:27:28.328
you know,

947
00:27:28.390 --> 00:27:30.500
I had won all my world titles in jujitsu.

948
00:27:31.031 --> 00:27:31.390
And so I'm like,

949
00:27:31.391 --> 00:27:31.578
okay,

950
00:27:31.625 --> 00:27:32.547
let me try this new.

951
00:27:33.298 --> 00:27:35.318
I said the yes.

952
00:27:35.319 --> 00:27:35.539
You know,

953
00:27:35.638 --> 00:27:37.019
Sean called me and he was like,

954
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:37.160
oh,

955
00:27:37.257 --> 00:27:38.378
you should really go into the UFC.

956
00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:39.121
He came out,

957
00:27:39.179 --> 00:27:40.500
flew out and came talk to me.

958
00:27:40.976 --> 00:27:41.242
He's like,

959
00:27:41.461 --> 00:27:42.296
you can sign with the UFC.

960
00:27:42.297 --> 00:27:42.882
We'll sign you.

961
00:27:43.539 --> 00:27:44.359
Try a couple of fights.

962
00:27:44.360 --> 00:27:45.203
See if you like it.

963
00:27:45.257 --> 00:27:45.601
You know,

964
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:45.937
I'm like,

965
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:46.125
OK,

966
00:27:46.382 --> 00:27:46.898
I'll try it.

967
00:27:46.945 --> 00:27:47.242
You know,

968
00:27:47.921 --> 00:27:49.867
so I wasn't even thinking about being a champion yet.

969
00:27:49.929 --> 00:27:50.164
You know,

970
00:27:50.165 --> 00:27:52.101
I was just learning how to get punched in the face,

971
00:27:52.117 --> 00:27:52.336
you know,

972
00:27:52.337 --> 00:27:53.304
and how to punch people.

973
00:27:55.429 --> 00:27:55.757
And then,

974
00:27:55.789 --> 00:27:56.023
you know,

975
00:27:56.445 --> 00:27:56.570
the.

976
00:27:58.303 --> 00:27:58.823
The goal,

977
00:27:59.143 --> 00:28:00.204
it starts growing on you.

978
00:28:00.264 --> 00:28:00.985
Because you're like,

979
00:28:01.165 --> 00:28:02.766
first the goal is just to learn how to punch.

980
00:28:03.130 --> 00:28:04.028
Then the second goal is like,

981
00:28:04.067 --> 00:28:04.247
okay,

982
00:28:04.290 --> 00:28:05.770
now I kind of know how to punch.

983
00:28:05.794 --> 00:28:06.614
I feel comfortable.

984
00:28:06.950 --> 00:28:11.239
Let me try and get some fights and put my game against the people.

985
00:28:11.856 --> 00:28:14.536
And as you start going more and then the objective,

986
00:28:14.692 --> 00:28:16.864
the goal to be like a champion started growing on me.

987
00:28:16.926 --> 00:28:17.067
Like,

988
00:28:17.098 --> 00:28:17.317
okay,

989
00:28:18.130 --> 00:28:21.161
now it's starting to be like it's not too far away now.

990
00:28:21.208 --> 00:28:21.864
It's getting closer.

991
00:28:21.942 --> 00:28:23.708
So now that we won the belt.

992
00:28:24.562 --> 00:28:25.523
I feel like I could be,

993
00:28:25.904 --> 00:28:26.144
you know,

994
00:28:26.343 --> 00:28:27.084
I'm super happy,

995
00:28:27.105 --> 00:28:29.986
but I feel like I can really have a good reign as a champion,

996
00:28:29.987 --> 00:28:30.287
you know?

997
00:28:30.646 --> 00:28:30.767
Yeah.

998
00:28:30.768 --> 00:28:33.310
And I would like to have a lot of title defenses and,

999
00:28:33.427 --> 00:28:33.709
you know,

1000
00:28:33.834 --> 00:28:34.435
so it's just,

1001
00:28:34.693 --> 00:28:35.669
but they say for the fighters,

1002
00:28:35.670 --> 00:28:37.576
the hardest part is to know the right time to stop,

1003
00:28:37.779 --> 00:28:38.052
you know?

1004
00:28:39.373 --> 00:28:40.177
We'll look at,

1005
00:28:40.201 --> 00:28:40.419
I mean,

1006
00:28:40.435 --> 00:28:42.060
there's a lot of people that,

1007
00:28:42.107 --> 00:28:42.341
you know,

1008
00:28:42.342 --> 00:28:44.435
they get CTE and the whole thing and you're like,

1009
00:28:45.482 --> 00:28:45.779
wow.

1010
00:28:46.529 --> 00:28:47.044
You know,

1011
00:28:47.045 --> 00:28:48.982
a lot of football players here in the United States that,

1012
00:28:49.107 --> 00:28:49.388
you know,

1013
00:28:49.685 --> 00:28:52.576
stuff happens afterwards that they never knew when to stop.

1014
00:28:52.810 --> 00:28:53.263
Yes.

1015
00:28:53.732 --> 00:28:53.873
and

1016
00:28:54.602 --> 00:29:00.128
Do you think you'll know when or do you have people in your corner that you trust and love that if they say,

1017
00:29:00.546 --> 00:29:00.949
Mackenzie,

1018
00:29:00.950 --> 00:29:01.648
it's time to stop.

1019
00:29:01.968 --> 00:29:02.128
Yeah.

1020
00:29:02.171 --> 00:29:02.992
Will you listen to them?

1021
00:29:03.312 --> 00:29:03.453
Yeah.

1022
00:29:04.429 --> 00:29:04.570
Yeah,

1023
00:29:04.593 --> 00:29:04.968
for sure.

1024
00:29:05.375 --> 00:29:07.257
I definitely have a good,

1025
00:29:07.718 --> 00:29:07.953
you know,

1026
00:29:08.093 --> 00:29:09.195
team in my corner.

1027
00:29:09.234 --> 00:29:09.476
You know,

1028
00:29:09.656 --> 00:29:10.234
my dad,

1029
00:29:10.781 --> 00:29:11.406
Coach Perillo,

1030
00:29:13.218 --> 00:29:13.718
my manager,

1031
00:29:13.765 --> 00:29:14.062
Tiki,

1032
00:29:14.125 --> 00:29:14.375
you know,

1033
00:29:14.484 --> 00:29:15.062
so I think.

1034
00:29:15.125 --> 00:29:15.296
Great.

1035
00:29:17.125 --> 00:29:17.421
I think.

1036
00:29:17.654 --> 00:29:18.155
For sure.

1037
00:29:18.175 --> 00:29:18.535
Well,

1038
00:29:18.595 --> 00:29:19.095
I'll definitely,

1039
00:29:19.916 --> 00:29:20.918
they'll have that conversation.

1040
00:29:20.957 --> 00:29:22.437
We'll have that conversation for sure.

1041
00:29:22.597 --> 00:29:23.359
And hopefully never.

1042
00:29:23.441 --> 00:29:23.859
Hopefully it's,

1043
00:29:23.860 --> 00:29:24.101
you know,

1044
00:29:24.179 --> 00:29:24.621
you're good.

1045
00:29:25.140 --> 00:29:27.887
The other question I wanted to ask is when you started.

1046
00:29:28.764 --> 00:29:45.281
uh ufc do you remember the first time you really got punched in the face and and how did that feel yeah i mean i got punched a lot but the the first one that i got like that hurt was against it was a main event and

1047
00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:54.953
um it was like the first punch of the fight so it was like in the first like 20 seconds and she did like this overhand that she has this really good over like kind of loopy overhand right

1048
00:29:55.536 --> 00:29:57.498
And I slipped and I went right into it.

1049
00:29:57.499 --> 00:29:57.939
You know what I mean?

1050
00:29:57.959 --> 00:29:59.900
Like I slipped like as if it was going to be a straight,

1051
00:29:59.901 --> 00:30:00.142
you know,

1052
00:30:00.162 --> 00:30:01.021
but she looped it,

1053
00:30:01.041 --> 00:30:01.341
you know,

1054
00:30:01.404 --> 00:30:02.462
and it got,

1055
00:30:03.584 --> 00:30:06.669
I went like blind for like a good like a minute in this eye.

1056
00:30:07.646 --> 00:30:08.732
And I thought that like,

1057
00:30:08.771 --> 00:30:09.005
you know,

1058
00:30:09.169 --> 00:30:10.209
that's always something I thought like,

1059
00:30:10.210 --> 00:30:10.334
man,

1060
00:30:10.349 --> 00:30:11.771
my retinator or something,

1061
00:30:11.772 --> 00:30:11.990
you know,

1062
00:30:12.052 --> 00:30:14.162
like got like detachment or something like that,

1063
00:30:14.163 --> 00:30:14.459
you know.

1064
00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:16.740
And that one hurt so bad.

1065
00:30:16.802 --> 00:30:18.005
And then a mandolin was too.

1066
00:30:18.380 --> 00:30:20.459
That was like two fights,

1067
00:30:20.584 --> 00:30:21.474
three fights after that.

1068
00:30:22.162 --> 00:30:23.849
And that.

1069
00:30:24.012 --> 00:30:52.584
she punched that one to hurt too it was the same eye but it got like the orbit the the bone outside of it yep and i just like i didn't knock me out or anything but i like just fell back to the floor and i'm like oh this hurts so bad and i'm trying to like get the pain to pass a little bit and then it slowly went away but all the other punches you don't really feel you really don't feel anything you don't know is it just adrenaline so much adrenaline yeah as soon as the bell finishes like the fight's over you start to feel everything

1070
00:30:52.720 --> 00:31:10.055
you know like before they even lift your hand up you're already like limping and your face is hurting your hand is killing you you know but then in the moment it's just so much adrenaline it needs to be like a really really good punch to like feel it you know because i broke my nose i didn't feel that um like

1071
00:31:10.071 --> 00:31:21.555
i like i i felt i thought it was weird i could feel it like i moved it and it went down the bone so like i kind of cut a little bit through but it didn't hurt you know so um

1072
00:31:21.836 --> 00:31:38.392
yeah just so much adrenaline yeah it's crazy so my my it hurts more in the training well i was gonna say training is gonna be crazy yeah because you don't have adrenaline and you're like going at it and then it just hurts it just hurts like a lot my other question is the opposite of my first of my initial question when

1073
00:31:38.393 --> 00:31:47.095
was the first time you landed a solid punch on someone you went oh that feels good like I just rung her bell oh man I think

1074
00:31:48.986 --> 00:31:50.705
I think um

1075
00:31:51.704 --> 00:32:07.360
my fight in brazil and at ufc rio i did in may it was my second fight in the ufc and that was like the first one because i i landed like this this punch and then she fell down and it was um i jumped on her and i started hitting and then i got the choke so

1076
00:32:07.618 --> 00:32:17.055
i didn't get like technically the knockout but she was basically like she was wobbly and that was the first time i ever like dropped someone with a punch you know and it how'd that feel man it felt great

1077
00:32:18.108 --> 00:32:18.909
It felt really good.

1078
00:32:18.929 --> 00:32:19.170
You know,

1079
00:32:19.171 --> 00:32:19.590
you just saw,

1080
00:32:19.650 --> 00:32:19.929
I mean,

1081
00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:22.074
even though at that time my striking was so bad,

1082
00:32:22.093 --> 00:32:22.832
so it's kind of luck.

1083
00:32:22.833 --> 00:32:23.492
It just landed.

1084
00:32:24.093 --> 00:32:24.394
You know,

1085
00:32:24.414 --> 00:32:25.277
I wasn't like really,

1086
00:32:25.496 --> 00:32:25.715
I mean,

1087
00:32:25.734 --> 00:32:26.433
I was trying to land it,

1088
00:32:26.457 --> 00:32:27.394
but you know,

1089
00:32:27.441 --> 00:32:30.480
it wasn't like how technical I am now,

1090
00:32:30.504 --> 00:32:30.738
you know,

1091
00:32:30.761 --> 00:32:31.504
like setting it up,

1092
00:32:31.543 --> 00:32:31.785
you know,

1093
00:32:31.840 --> 00:32:32.902
just like hoping I get it,

1094
00:32:33.004 --> 00:32:33.246
you know?

1095
00:32:34.379 --> 00:32:34.691
But yeah,

1096
00:32:34.722 --> 00:32:35.801
it was amazing to feel that.

1097
00:32:35.832 --> 00:32:36.129
I was like,

1098
00:32:36.144 --> 00:32:36.269
man,

1099
00:32:36.285 --> 00:32:37.004
I want to get that more,

1100
00:32:37.222 --> 00:32:38.504
like more times.

1101
00:32:38.535 --> 00:32:39.926
I hope I can get actual real knockout.

1102
00:32:39.927 --> 00:32:40.207
You will.

1103
00:32:40.363 --> 00:32:41.816
That's a goal of mine to get a knockout.

1104
00:32:41.926 --> 00:32:42.519
You absolutely will.

1105
00:32:42.520 --> 00:32:42.754
One day.

1106
00:32:42.879 --> 00:32:43.472
You absolutely will.

1107
00:32:43.676 --> 00:32:43.801
Yeah.

1108
00:32:44.754 --> 00:32:47.410
Do you get approached by other

1109
00:32:48.196 --> 00:33:04.067
moms who are you know in that are you know either brazilian jiu-jitsu or you know looking at maybe ufc aspirations tons tons that's that's what i'm that's why i'm so happy i feel so um like fulfilled

1110
00:33:04.177 --> 00:33:14.036
you know just because one of my biggest things was just kind of to get jiu-jitsu to a bigger platform and represent jiu-jitsu you know like you can be a champion like multiple time world champion in jiu-jitsu.

1111
00:33:14.568 --> 00:33:15.768
But that's just for our community,

1112
00:33:15.828 --> 00:33:16.268
you know what I mean?

1113
00:33:16.308 --> 00:33:17.828
Like in our world of people,

1114
00:33:17.908 --> 00:33:18.170
you know?

1115
00:33:18.289 --> 00:33:18.849
So it's like,

1116
00:33:19.291 --> 00:33:24.306
or someone you know does it or your kids do it or maybe your husband or your wife does it.

1117
00:33:24.353 --> 00:33:25.353
So you train too,

1118
00:33:25.369 --> 00:33:25.611
you know?

1119
00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:26.533
But UFC,

1120
00:33:26.892 --> 00:33:27.111
MMA,

1121
00:33:27.189 --> 00:33:27.447
you know,

1122
00:33:27.470 --> 00:33:30.072
it's like people that don't do any martial arts watch it.

1123
00:33:30.088 --> 00:33:30.564
You know what I mean?

1124
00:33:30.658 --> 00:33:36.455
So my whole goal was to try and just spread jujitsu and get more people and get like...

1125
00:33:36.780 --> 00:33:54.396
you know maybe girlfriends or moms that are watching you know because their son's watching or something like that i'm like oh what does she oh she she fights but she goes like on the ground and you know didn't obviously i didn't get pregnant like to represent the moms or like as i go you know but my whole story you know it's just kind of like man if if

1126
00:33:54.662 --> 00:34:06.256
that helps you know with the woman in in you know even the kids you know that i'm happy and the most thing i get is messages like or from the guys like man my girlfriend loves you she watches your fights you know or

1127
00:34:06.624 --> 00:34:30.020
moms that are like you know oh i'm inspired by you know your story and i want to get into training and they do it with their kids too you know like they train together um and then just people saying you know like that their kids too are big fans you know so it's really really good to see that you know with woman and that that it worked out it worked out the way i wanted it to work out you know and so i'm really happy about it and um

1128
00:34:30.021 --> 00:34:35.270
yeah that i think a lot of girls started getting into fighting or watching it or interested in it.

1129
00:34:35.628 --> 00:34:38.491
I hope because of some of the fights that they saw me doing it,

1130
00:34:38.492 --> 00:34:38.712
you know,

1131
00:34:38.731 --> 00:34:39.090
and they're like,

1132
00:34:39.132 --> 00:34:39.272
oh,

1133
00:34:39.712 --> 00:34:40.872
she's like a regular woman,

1134
00:34:40.873 --> 00:34:41.133
you know,

1135
00:34:41.215 --> 00:34:41.555
like me,

1136
00:34:41.633 --> 00:34:41.915
you know,

1137
00:34:41.993 --> 00:34:43.016
like as a mom.

1138
00:34:43.036 --> 00:34:43.676
And for sure,

1139
00:34:43.700 --> 00:34:45.114
I go through the same stuff like.

1140
00:34:45.632 --> 00:34:45.992
You know,

1141
00:34:46.132 --> 00:34:49.013
your kids like saying no to you all the time.

1142
00:34:49.014 --> 00:34:50.054
You know what I mean?

1143
00:34:50.073 --> 00:34:51.491
So I like go through the same stuff.

1144
00:34:51.534 --> 00:34:52.995
They identify a lot with me.

1145
00:34:52.996 --> 00:34:53.452
You know what I mean?

1146
00:34:53.534 --> 00:34:54.913
With moms and stuff like that.

1147
00:34:55.413 --> 00:34:55.991
That's amazing.

1148
00:34:56.296 --> 00:34:56.437
Yeah.

1149
00:34:56.577 --> 00:35:00.359
So to pivot from moms that look up to you,

1150
00:35:01.155 --> 00:35:03.616
who's fighting right now that you're just like,

1151
00:35:03.741 --> 00:35:04.194
oh,

1152
00:35:04.382 --> 00:35:05.351
they're good.

1153
00:35:07.038 --> 00:35:07.304
I mean,

1154
00:35:07.351 --> 00:35:08.523
Valentina just fought.

1155
00:35:08.663 --> 00:35:08.913
You know,

1156
00:35:08.976 --> 00:35:10.194
she did an amazing.

1157
00:35:10.600 --> 00:35:31.482
performance against waylee so that was crazy because i really thought that waylee was gonna do good against her i was i was betting on waylee so i was like man i really think waylee's gonna win um and then i mean natalia silva she's a good friend of mine and she's in reserve i think she's probably next to fight for the belt against valentina and

1158
00:35:31.544 --> 00:35:36.185
she's just amazing she's gonna be a future champ for sure um and then in my division

1159
00:35:36.740 --> 00:35:36.960
I mean,

1160
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:37.261
Weili,

1161
00:35:37.441 --> 00:35:38.321
if she comes back down,

1162
00:35:38.362 --> 00:35:39.622
but she's an amazing fighter.

1163
00:35:39.864 --> 00:35:40.284
Joanna,

1164
00:35:40.505 --> 00:35:41.305
she stopped fighting,

1165
00:35:41.345 --> 00:35:41.805
but Joanna,

1166
00:35:42.067 --> 00:35:43.466
they had one of the best fights,

1167
00:35:43.688 --> 00:35:45.184
like Hall of Fame fights for sure.

1168
00:35:47.247 --> 00:35:47.489
But yeah,

1169
00:35:47.490 --> 00:35:49.669
it's just there's so many good girls that are coming into it.

1170
00:35:49.692 --> 00:35:50.794
It's like growing so much.

1171
00:35:50.856 --> 00:35:53.294
So it's like all these like contender series,

1172
00:35:53.295 --> 00:35:53.794
the girls,

1173
00:35:53.841 --> 00:35:54.700
like their knockouts.

1174
00:35:54.701 --> 00:35:55.012
I'm like,

1175
00:35:55.075 --> 00:35:55.325
man,

1176
00:35:55.481 --> 00:35:57.856
the new generation of girls are like beasts,

1177
00:35:57.857 --> 00:35:58.122
you know?

1178
00:35:58.184 --> 00:35:58.794
It's wild.

1179
00:35:58.981 --> 00:35:59.606
It's crazy.

1180
00:35:59.716 --> 00:36:00.466
And the UFC only has,

1181
00:36:01.669 --> 00:36:03.809
the first UFC was the year I was born on 1993.

1182
00:36:03.810 --> 00:36:05.184
So it's 32 years old.

1183
00:36:05.944 --> 00:36:20.658
the UFC you know MMA well not MMA in general but UFC you know um so it's like it's still it's a new sport you know 32 years isn't that old I think in my mind for you know a sport and stuff like that so it's like how

1184
00:36:21.181 --> 00:36:34.673
much better the fighters are gonna get you know you already see a difference a little bit from the first ones to now you know we're like they're kind of like brawling back then oh my god yes which was fun it was so cool to watch and everything and really good but it's just

1185
00:36:35.096 --> 00:36:35.997
It's evolved so much.

1186
00:36:36.017 --> 00:36:36.437
And I'm like,

1187
00:36:36.457 --> 00:36:36.677
man,

1188
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:38.599
another like 30 years from now,

1189
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:39.859
it's going to be crazy.

1190
00:36:39.902 --> 00:36:40.402
Bananas.

1191
00:36:40.542 --> 00:36:40.742
Yeah.

1192
00:36:41.003 --> 00:36:41.683
Bananas.

1193
00:36:41.843 --> 00:36:42.003
Yeah.

1194
00:36:42.363 --> 00:36:45.148
Where do you see yourself 30 years from now?

1195
00:36:45.523 --> 00:36:47.585
If you were like looking at crystal ball and saying,

1196
00:36:47.586 --> 00:36:47.828
all right,

1197
00:36:47.867 --> 00:36:48.913
McKenzie is going to be like,

1198
00:36:48.929 --> 00:36:49.953
where are you going to be?

1199
00:36:50.132 --> 00:36:51.788
What are you going to be doing 30 years from now?

1200
00:36:52.273 --> 00:36:54.632
I'll probably be like in Brazil.

1201
00:36:55.070 --> 00:36:57.804
I'll probably be back and forth Brazil and the United States.

1202
00:36:58.742 --> 00:37:00.695
But I just want to be like relaxing on a beach.

1203
00:37:01.304 --> 00:37:02.648
That's my type of like.

1204
00:37:03.340 --> 00:37:21.651
you know traveling i love to travel eat but you know just kind of outside i mean i'll always be like a healthy lifestyle i think i think it's just it's i've i've done this since i'm three you know what i mean but it's just it gets to a point where i'm just like when i do finally stop you know i'm

1205
00:37:21.652 --> 00:37:26.244
gonna be relaxed you know i just want to be pressing go i want a piece of chocolate cake Yes.

1206
00:37:27.166 --> 00:37:27.791
Exactly.

1207
00:37:27.979 --> 00:37:28.229
Yeah.

1208
00:37:28.666 --> 00:37:29.666
Hopefully I can just like.

1209
00:37:30.136 --> 00:37:54.203
maybe be a grandma and have i i wanted to have like eight kids when i was little you know when i was younger so i wanted to have like a big legacy and just you know i'd be like that grandma that with like my husband at like a at my beach house and then like all the all the grandkids and they come with their husbands and wives and all their kids kids and they all come in for christmas at my house and all at grandma's house and i can just see all the all

1210
00:37:54.282 --> 00:37:55.297
the all my

1211
00:37:55.988 --> 00:38:17.852
generations you know your legacy yeah the legacy you know and i was like man but i have moa so that's one well and you know what sometimes moa is all you need exactly all we need is a moa yeah in our lives and we are far better versions of ourselves because of it yeah exactly you know yeah and whether whether she goes into you

1212
00:38:17.853 --> 00:38:20.727
know mma or she goes into the corporate world,

1213
00:38:21.446 --> 00:38:21.774
you know.

1214
00:38:22.140 --> 00:38:23.422
And it's just,

1215
00:38:23.521 --> 00:38:27.707
I think that you're setting such a great example for her of a strong,

1216
00:38:27.785 --> 00:38:28.445
powerful,

1217
00:38:28.547 --> 00:38:29.809
confident woman.

1218
00:38:30.789 --> 00:38:32.047
The world needs more of those.

1219
00:38:32.750 --> 00:38:33.188
Yeah.

1220
00:38:33.375 --> 00:38:33.609
You know,

1221
00:38:33.688 --> 00:38:34.070
I think,

1222
00:38:34.352 --> 00:38:35.836
and I think whatever you do,

1223
00:38:36.391 --> 00:38:38.844
you're going to be very successful at it when you,

1224
00:38:39.016 --> 00:38:39.313
you know,

1225
00:38:39.922 --> 00:38:41.641
end up leaving your current profession.

1226
00:38:41.938 --> 00:38:42.344
Thank you.

1227
00:38:42.578 --> 00:38:43.063
You're welcome.

1228
00:38:43.219 --> 00:38:43.938
I think it's great.

1229
00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:44.875
Thank you for coming in.

1230
00:38:44.984 --> 00:38:45.297
Yes.

1231
00:38:45.891 --> 00:38:46.609
You're wonderful.

1232
00:38:47.044 --> 00:38:50.628
Shout out to Blake Wynn for getting us together.

1233
00:38:50.827 --> 00:38:52.428
And whenever you're in town,

1234
00:38:52.429 --> 00:38:53.428
you have an open seat here.

1235
00:38:53.452 --> 00:38:54.010
Yes,

1236
00:38:54.069 --> 00:38:54.671
thank you so much.

1237
00:38:54.733 --> 00:38:57.311
To come back in because I'd love to check in with you just to be like,

1238
00:38:57.936 --> 00:38:58.397
as a mom,

1239
00:38:58.592 --> 00:38:58.913
okay,

1240
00:38:59.233 --> 00:39:00.397
now Moa is this age.

1241
00:39:00.436 --> 00:39:01.936
And what type of challenges do you have?

1242
00:39:01.975 --> 00:39:02.358
Because

1243
00:39:02.936 --> 00:39:05.460
I will let you know this one because of having,

1244
00:39:05.475 --> 00:39:05.710
you know,

1245
00:39:05.725 --> 00:39:06.928
a stepdaughter and a daughter.

1246
00:39:07.444 --> 00:39:13.663
They're usually wonderful until when they hit about 10 or 11.

1247
00:39:14.225 --> 00:39:16.538
It's like this alien pod person comes.

1248
00:39:17.236 --> 00:39:20.276
And my sweet baby girl is kind of like,

1249
00:39:20.757 --> 00:39:29.917
and all of a sudden it's this eye rolls and this harumphs and this like sigh and they look at you and they get judgy.

1250
00:39:30.237 --> 00:39:33.393
And when they start to have like their feminine starts happening and all that,

1251
00:39:33.456 --> 00:39:33.800
you're like,

1252
00:39:34.815 --> 00:39:35.003
ah.

1253
00:39:35.034 --> 00:39:35.253
Yes,

1254
00:39:35.347 --> 00:39:35.722
yes.

1255
00:39:35.784 --> 00:39:39.737
And you become much more reactive to them instead of saying,

1256
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:40.237
how are you?

1257
00:39:40.378 --> 00:39:41.175
I'm fine.

1258
00:39:41.315 --> 00:39:41.722
Yes.

1259
00:39:41.815 --> 00:39:44.878
which a 10-year-old girl saying,

1260
00:39:45.128 --> 00:39:45.768
I'm fine.

1261
00:39:45.984 --> 00:39:46.732
It means fuck you.

1262
00:39:48.201 --> 00:39:49.741
That's exactly what it means,

1263
00:39:50.042 --> 00:39:50.461
Mackenzie.

1264
00:39:50.462 --> 00:39:50.662
Don't ask me.

1265
00:39:50.663 --> 00:39:51.322
Don't talk to me.

1266
00:39:51.601 --> 00:39:53.041
Do not talk to me.

1267
00:39:53.764 --> 00:39:54.842
Do not talk to me.

1268
00:39:55.381 --> 00:39:55.502
So

1269
00:39:56.685 --> 00:39:59.381
I hope and would love for us to we stay in touch that,

1270
00:39:59.982 --> 00:40:00.287
you know,

1271
00:40:00.506 --> 00:40:02.045
we have like an annual check-in.

1272
00:40:02.428 --> 00:40:03.545
Whenever you're in Vegas to go,

1273
00:40:03.865 --> 00:40:04.107
okay,

1274
00:40:04.162 --> 00:40:06.185
so tell me about how things are going.

1275
00:40:06.701 --> 00:40:10.201
And I'm happy to share like my experiences to help you out as well.

1276
00:40:10.279 --> 00:40:10.451
Yeah,

1277
00:40:10.545 --> 00:40:13.764
I'm so interested in how it is with you for like as the father,

1278
00:40:13.779 --> 00:40:14.092
you know,

1279
00:40:14.170 --> 00:40:16.764
and you have boys and girls or just girls?

1280
00:40:16.765 --> 00:40:17.529
I have a stepdaughter.

1281
00:40:17.969 --> 00:40:35.470
a daughter and then my son is about to be 10 10 and so do you see a big difference with like how you parent the the girl compared to the boy and things like that my my daughter is much more independent and i would say this with the kids in the room and i've had them on the podcast my daughter is much more independent she's

1282
00:40:35.533 --> 00:40:46.720
much more she's fierce and she just does her thing and is like the leader of her friend group and is very empathetic and wants to help them out and figure things out for them.

1283
00:40:47.189 --> 00:40:50.849
And my son is just a cuddler and a lover and he's a redhead,

1284
00:40:51.531 --> 00:40:52.129
blue eyes,

1285
00:40:52.230 --> 00:40:53.750
just got braces last week.

1286
00:40:53.789 --> 00:40:54.789
And so he's,

1287
00:40:54.832 --> 00:40:57.992
and I'm holding his hand and he still holds my hand.

1288
00:40:58.211 --> 00:40:58.492
Ooh,

1289
00:40:58.570 --> 00:40:58.890
that's a,

1290
00:40:59.015 --> 00:40:59.773
that's a good,

1291
00:40:59.890 --> 00:41:00.195
you're like,

1292
00:41:00.234 --> 00:41:00.453
yes,

1293
00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:01.156
I still got it.

1294
00:41:01.968 --> 00:41:05.531
I've said he can be 30 if he still wants to hold my fucking hand.

1295
00:41:05.532 --> 00:41:05.937
He can,

1296
00:41:06.109 --> 00:41:06.781
I don't care.

1297
00:41:07.156 --> 00:41:08.500
He gets great grades.

1298
00:41:08.578 --> 00:41:09.640
He's a good student.

1299
00:41:10.015 --> 00:41:10.968
He's a wonderful,

1300
00:41:11.093 --> 00:41:12.172
wonderful young man,

1301
00:41:12.672 --> 00:41:14.187
but different than,

1302
00:41:14.562 --> 00:41:15.812
he doesn't have that like.

1303
00:41:16.777 --> 00:41:19.059
that his sister has.

1304
00:41:19.359 --> 00:41:20.041
And that's okay.

1305
00:41:20.061 --> 00:41:20.240
Yeah,

1306
00:41:20.381 --> 00:41:20.543
yeah.

1307
00:41:20.781 --> 00:41:23.605
He's just a big old teddy bear because he's been raised by,

1308
00:41:23.684 --> 00:41:23.945
you know,

1309
00:41:23.984 --> 00:41:26.223
by women for the most part and then me.

1310
00:41:26.848 --> 00:41:27.191
And so

1311
00:41:27.965 --> 00:41:29.973
I think that there's a big difference there,

1312
00:41:30.613 --> 00:41:34.410
but you always just celebrate the good stuff.

1313
00:41:35.191 --> 00:41:39.316
Something that I do with my kids is I often say to them when we're alone,

1314
00:41:39.598 --> 00:41:40.707
how am I doing as your dad?

1315
00:41:41.395 --> 00:41:41.770
And they'll,

1316
00:41:41.771 --> 00:41:41.801
oh,

1317
00:41:41.802 --> 00:41:42.363
you're doing great.

1318
00:41:42.441 --> 00:41:42.629
Okay,

1319
00:41:42.660 --> 00:41:43.129
that's nice.

1320
00:41:43.130 --> 00:41:44.270
But what can I do better?

1321
00:41:44.457 --> 00:41:44.582
Yeah,

1322
00:41:44.926 --> 00:41:45.410
nice.

1323
00:41:45.582 --> 00:41:46.160
Like an interview.

1324
00:41:47.022 --> 00:42:10.265
and like if you if you have a business and you get all five star reviews every day that's nice but what about a three star review and tell me what we did wrong then we could work on that yeah like as a fighter you're always tweaking what you're doing always technique too much almost right you overthink it sometimes right yeah so of course you just pull the reins back a little bit and so it is as a parent to

1325
00:42:10.484 --> 00:42:13.750
often check in with moa and when it's just you and her

1326
00:42:13.885 --> 00:42:15.507
no distractions and look at her and go,

1327
00:42:15.547 --> 00:42:15.726
honey,

1328
00:42:15.787 --> 00:42:16.767
how am I doing as your mom?

1329
00:42:17.769 --> 00:42:18.990
And she's going to say you're doing great.

1330
00:42:19.572 --> 00:42:22.834
But you want that eventually when she has that trust in you to go,

1331
00:42:23.193 --> 00:42:23.513
you know what,

1332
00:42:23.537 --> 00:42:23.693
mom,

1333
00:42:23.732 --> 00:42:24.396
you're doing great.

1334
00:42:24.654 --> 00:42:28.896
But you told me I couldn't have orange juice this one day.

1335
00:42:29.381 --> 00:42:29.678
Why?

1336
00:42:29.818 --> 00:42:30.678
Why did you do that?

1337
00:42:30.724 --> 00:42:31.021
And you go,

1338
00:42:31.084 --> 00:42:31.256
honey,

1339
00:42:31.349 --> 00:42:32.037
this is why.

1340
00:42:32.568 --> 00:42:34.428
And then you'll think about this conversation.

1341
00:42:34.459 --> 00:42:34.584
Oh,

1342
00:42:34.585 --> 00:42:34.787
my God,

1343
00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:36.334
Jeff Fargo knew what the hell he's talking about.

1344
00:42:36.912 --> 00:42:40.537
That's when you have that watershed breakthrough moment with your child.

1345
00:42:41.256 --> 00:42:43.193
when they feel vulnerable enough.

1346
00:42:43.577 --> 00:42:44.318
to say to you,

1347
00:42:44.979 --> 00:42:45.620
you're perfect.

1348
00:42:45.879 --> 00:42:46.440
I love you.

1349
00:42:46.881 --> 00:42:50.264
But there's this little thing right here that I just,

1350
00:42:50.323 --> 00:42:51.366
I wonder about this.

1351
00:42:52.002 --> 00:42:54.104
So that's my answer.

1352
00:42:54.151 --> 00:42:56.893
Like my son asks me questions all the time.

1353
00:42:57.049 --> 00:42:57.291
Really?

1354
00:42:58.315 --> 00:42:59.315
People would be like,

1355
00:42:59.432 --> 00:43:00.557
it would be maddening to them.

1356
00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:01.510
I love it.

1357
00:43:02.198 --> 00:43:02.651
I love it.

1358
00:43:02.995 --> 00:43:03.682
I answer his,

1359
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:04.995
and I always say afterwards,

1360
00:43:05.182 --> 00:43:05.916
does that make sense?

1361
00:43:06.354 --> 00:43:06.557
He'll go,

1362
00:43:06.604 --> 00:43:06.760
yep.

1363
00:43:06.838 --> 00:43:07.073
Okay.

1364
00:43:07.166 --> 00:43:07.495
Thank you.

1365
00:43:08.026 --> 00:43:10.620
So I always check in with him after I give him an answer.

1366
00:43:10.857 --> 00:43:13.099
to make sure he understands my answer.

1367
00:43:13.240 --> 00:43:13.359
Oh,

1368
00:43:13.439 --> 00:43:14.021
that's good.

1369
00:43:14.140 --> 00:43:15.283
From talking on his level.

1370
00:43:15.783 --> 00:43:15.943
Yeah,

1371
00:43:16.021 --> 00:43:16.681
that's so good.

1372
00:43:16.763 --> 00:43:19.404
And I over-explain things so he understands.

1373
00:43:19.405 --> 00:43:20.810
But I never baby talked.

1374
00:43:20.990 --> 00:43:22.146
We never baby talked our kids.

1375
00:43:22.232 --> 00:43:22.427
Yeah.

1376
00:43:22.607 --> 00:43:26.576
So they're advanced in terms of how they speak and how they think.

1377
00:43:26.810 --> 00:43:27.060
Yeah,

1378
00:43:27.216 --> 00:43:28.029
which is probably good.

1379
00:43:28.060 --> 00:43:29.107
Like when you're at the table,

1380
00:43:29.201 --> 00:43:30.060
like a restaurant,

1381
00:43:30.091 --> 00:43:31.654
and they're having conversations,

1382
00:43:32.123 --> 00:43:33.920
they can talk with different types of people.

1383
00:43:33.921 --> 00:43:33.982
Oh,

1384
00:43:33.998 --> 00:43:34.326
yeah.

1385
00:43:34.420 --> 00:43:35.154
They do it themselves.

1386
00:43:36.279 --> 00:43:37.029
I see kids

1387
00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:38.123
16, 17,

1388
00:43:38.201 --> 00:43:38.482
18,

1389
00:43:38.483 --> 00:43:39.920
and their parents are ordering for them.

1390
00:43:40.060 --> 00:43:40.263
Yeah.

1391
00:43:40.745 --> 00:43:40.945
What?

1392
00:43:41.766 --> 00:43:41.987
What?

1393
00:43:42.607 --> 00:43:43.649
My son is nine.

1394
00:43:44.149 --> 00:43:44.489
And I'm like,

1395
00:43:44.490 --> 00:43:44.750
Jack,

1396
00:43:44.751 --> 00:43:45.008
go ahead.

1397
00:43:45.188 --> 00:43:45.750
Tell them and say,

1398
00:43:45.790 --> 00:43:46.051
you know,

1399
00:43:46.110 --> 00:43:47.153
may I please have.

1400
00:43:47.250 --> 00:43:47.750
And then they,

1401
00:43:47.751 --> 00:43:47.973
you know,

1402
00:43:48.090 --> 00:43:49.317
and then always say thank you.

1403
00:43:49.731 --> 00:43:52.098
Always say thank you whenever someone comes to fill your water up.

1404
00:43:52.700 --> 00:43:54.020
Because they're working just as hard,

1405
00:43:54.036 --> 00:43:56.379
if not harder than I am at what I do.

1406
00:43:56.723 --> 00:43:58.176
And always give everyone respect.

1407
00:43:58.317 --> 00:43:58.489
Yeah,

1408
00:43:58.583 --> 00:43:58.958
that's great.

1409
00:43:59.176 --> 00:43:59.583
Always.

1410
00:44:00.489 --> 00:44:00.645
Yeah,

1411
00:44:00.770 --> 00:44:01.004
great.

1412
00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:01.645
That's it.

1413
00:44:01.723 --> 00:44:05.708
So we can have a parent therapy session whenever you want.

1414
00:44:05.709 --> 00:44:05.786
Yeah,

1415
00:44:05.787 --> 00:44:07.051
that's really good.

1416
00:44:08.114 --> 00:44:08.817
This has been great.

1417
00:44:09.137 --> 00:44:11.460
I know that we'll get you out of here because you're in a time crunch,

1418
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:12.701
but thanks for coming in.

1419
00:44:13.101 --> 00:44:13.843
It means a lot.

1420
00:44:15.125 --> 00:44:15.402
Again,

1421
00:44:15.562 --> 00:44:18.546
I'm not someone the last fight I went to was like 20 years ago.

1422
00:44:19.304 --> 00:44:19.671
Ah,

1423
00:44:20.187 --> 00:44:20.851
you need to go.

1424
00:44:20.867 --> 00:44:21.367
Lake was like,

1425
00:44:21.368 --> 00:44:21.929
you got to come,

1426
00:44:22.007 --> 00:44:22.132
so

1427
00:44:23.273 --> 00:44:23.710
I will go.

1428
00:44:23.890 --> 00:44:25.140
Maybe like if you have a fight sometime,

1429
00:44:25.156 --> 00:44:25.796
especially if it's here,

1430
00:44:26.031 --> 00:44:30.015
that I would go to because I just think you're great and

1431
00:44:30.578 --> 00:44:32.765
I just love the person that you are.

1432
00:44:33.593 --> 00:44:34.937
And from one parent to another,

1433
00:44:35.062 --> 00:44:36.203
keep doing what you're doing.

1434
00:44:36.429 --> 00:44:36.809
Thank you.

1435
00:44:36.990 --> 00:44:37.730
Thank you so much.

1436
00:44:37.831 --> 00:44:40.712
The world's a better place with you in it and with how you're parenting.

1437
00:44:40.794 --> 00:44:41.294
It's awesome.

1438
00:44:41.454 --> 00:44:41.794
Thank you.

1439
00:44:41.795 --> 00:44:42.376
It's not easy.

1440
00:44:42.493 --> 00:44:42.934
And definitely

1441
00:44:43.454 --> 00:44:44.016
I didn't,

1442
00:44:44.454 --> 00:44:46.399
I wasn't born knowing how to be a mom.

1443
00:44:46.438 --> 00:44:47.938
It's definitely a learning process,

1444
00:44:47.962 --> 00:44:48.259
you know,

1445
00:44:48.399 --> 00:44:48.782
both,

1446
00:44:49.001 --> 00:44:49.821
I think for,

1447
00:44:50.165 --> 00:44:51.462
I think for all parents,

1448
00:44:51.524 --> 00:44:51.727
right?

1449
00:44:51.743 --> 00:44:52.204
Oh my God,

1450
00:44:52.243 --> 00:44:52.360
yes.

1451
00:44:52.423 --> 00:44:55.048
They give you all these books and preparation and everything.

1452
00:44:55.095 --> 00:44:55.673
And it's like,

1453
00:44:56.095 --> 00:44:57.766
your kid is like totally different than everything.

1454
00:44:57.813 --> 00:44:57.954
It's,

1455
00:44:58.485 --> 00:44:58.798
you know,

1456
00:44:58.954 --> 00:45:00.329
every kid is different.

1457
00:45:00.376 --> 00:45:01.048
And it's like.

1458
00:45:02.411 --> 00:45:08.312
I see parents that they say they have three kids and they raise them all the same and they're all completely different.

1459
00:45:08.371 --> 00:45:09.414
Absolutely.

1460
00:45:09.415 --> 00:45:10.355
You know what I mean?

1461
00:45:10.410 --> 00:45:16.793
So it's really a rewarding and amazing blessing just to be a mom and a dad.

1462
00:45:17.113 --> 00:45:17.512
It's wonderful.

1463
00:45:17.637 --> 00:45:23.340
And to see this child grow up and have their personality and make their decisions.

1464
00:45:24.762 --> 00:45:25.590
Moa is like that with me.

1465
00:45:25.715 --> 00:45:26.090
She's like,

1466
00:45:26.091 --> 00:45:27.512
but why?

1467
00:45:28.090 --> 00:45:28.762
Lots of questions.

1468
00:45:28.763 --> 00:45:29.762
And then she asked me.

1469
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:30.299
okay,

1470
00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:30.619
but why?

1471
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:34.401
And then I respond to her and then she keeps going and going and going until we get back to like,

1472
00:45:34.761 --> 00:45:34.921
well,

1473
00:45:34.999 --> 00:45:36.202
how was the earth made?

1474
00:45:36.203 --> 00:45:36.440
You know,

1475
00:45:36.659 --> 00:45:37.839
like God,

1476
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:38.140
you know,

1477
00:45:38.179 --> 00:45:38.843
and I'm just like,

1478
00:45:38.897 --> 00:45:39.804
I don't know.

1479
00:45:39.944 --> 00:45:40.944
But that's such a great,

1480
00:45:41.022 --> 00:45:46.468
but that's a great quality that she has is that she's inquisitive and she's asking all those questions.

1481
00:45:47.187 --> 00:45:48.187
That's wonderful.

1482
00:45:48.546 --> 00:45:49.296
And she's a Gemini.

1483
00:45:49.483 --> 00:45:50.780
So very curious,

1484
00:45:50.796 --> 00:45:51.124
you know,

1485
00:45:51.343 --> 00:45:52.108
it's,

1486
00:45:52.327 --> 00:45:53.187
it's wonderful because,

1487
00:45:53.202 --> 00:45:54.780
and also we'll end on this.

1488
00:45:54.781 --> 00:45:56.890
The thing that drives me crazy with my kids.

1489
00:45:56.968 --> 00:45:58.108
If I ask them something,

1490
00:45:58.109 --> 00:45:58.312
they go,

1491
00:45:58.530 --> 00:45:58.905
I don't know.

1492
00:45:59.387 --> 00:45:59.587
I go,

1493
00:45:59.608 --> 00:46:00.248
that's not an answer.

1494
00:46:00.468 --> 00:46:00.868
I know.

1495
00:46:01.089 --> 00:46:01.710
That's giving up.

1496
00:46:01.909 --> 00:46:02.290
Yeah.

1497
00:46:02.310 --> 00:46:03.993
Don't ever tell me I don't know.

1498
00:46:04.153 --> 00:46:04.712
You know.

1499
00:46:05.513 --> 00:46:06.513
Think about it more.

1500
00:46:06.514 --> 00:46:07.075
Yes.

1501
00:46:07.978 --> 00:46:08.993
You might not know,

1502
00:46:09.040 --> 00:46:13.900
but then admit that and do it in a more articulate way to ask me how you want me to help you out.

1503
00:46:13.901 --> 00:46:15.103
So think your way through it.

1504
00:46:15.165 --> 00:46:15.400
Yeah.

1505
00:46:15.525 --> 00:46:16.462
I'm not going to do it for you,

1506
00:46:16.790 --> 00:46:18.071
but I'll help you navigate.

1507
00:46:18.072 --> 00:46:18.790
Yeah.

1508
00:46:18.806 --> 00:46:19.509
As your parent.

1509
00:46:19.510 --> 00:46:19.634
Yeah.

1510
00:46:20.665 --> 00:46:20.853
Yeah.

1511
00:46:20.854 --> 00:46:21.603
Stimulating them.

1512
00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:22.931
Stimulate them.

1513
00:46:23.509 --> 00:46:24.134
Yes.

1514
00:46:24.290 --> 00:46:24.775
You're so good.

1515
00:46:25.540 --> 00:46:25.790
All right,

1516
00:46:25.791 --> 00:46:25.946
honey.

1517
00:46:26.009 --> 00:46:26.415
Thank you.

1518
00:46:26.416 --> 00:46:27.650
Thank you so much.

1519
00:46:27.712 --> 00:46:28.431
Thanks for having me.

1520
00:46:28.579 --> 00:46:29.047
My pleasure.