Meesha Moulton: You’re Not Hiring The Lawyer You Think You Are

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here's the biggest thing i'm wondering is you're an attorney here in vegas and it's like billboard wars yes

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oh my gosh yeah it's so competitive here right yeah definitely talk to me about your just i mean because you're a very smart woman thank you welcome and you

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What was your thought process to be like,

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well,

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this guy's doing this and this guy's doing this.

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And Sam and Ash,

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I can't tell if they're brother and sister or if they're married.

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I don't know what's going on with them.

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Bless their hearts,

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Sam and Ash.

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I'm just saying your messaging is a little off.

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What was it that you were like,

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okay,

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I need to be in this space or I should be in this space.

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And then this is how I'm going to do it.

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You know,

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I think that when you're looking at billboards,

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for me,

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there's a lot of clutter and a lot of it just becomes white noise.

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So there's a lot of...

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different firms and individuals that almost like over advertised.

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So for me,

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it was one finding the balance where it's like,

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I'm kind of like a constant reminder,

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you know,

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because you don't really need me until you need me.

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But also,

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I don't want to be,

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you know,

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everywhere where it's just almost becomes white noise and a little annoying,

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you know,

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to put it that way.

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And I think when I say clutter,

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I just wanted it to be like a clean message.

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So for me,

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I really just started advertising with just my brand name,

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which was Misha Moulton Law,

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a picture,

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no phone number.

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Because,

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you know,

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for the most part,

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when you're driving,

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especially on the expressway,

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you're not stopping,

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grabbing your phone,

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trying to enter in a phone number.

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So what you're going to remember is you're going to remember the name.

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And,

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you know,

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from a marketing perspective,

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advertising,

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it's even better if people look me up on Google and up on my website and up on my social media.

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So it was,

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you know,

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various little things went into it.

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But I also just like doing things my own way.

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I really just,

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you know,

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I don't really fall into this realm of copying what anybody else is doing.

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I'm like,

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you know what,

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we're going to go for it.

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And worst case scenario,

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it doesn't work.

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And we pivot.

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We figure it out.

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Has it worked for you?

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It's actually worked really well.

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Yeah,

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I think I have had such a great response from the advertising and the billboards.

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I am,

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you know,

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a fairly new firm.

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I'd say it's four years now.

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But,

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you know,

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some of the level that I get put on with these other firms that have been out there,

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they're spending significantly more than I am.

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And that just goes to show me that the branding has really picked up in the last few years.

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You have the cleanest billboards out there.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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That was the look I was going for.

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Yeah.

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I mean,

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they are clean and it's great because there's not a lot of stuff getting thrown at you.

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Yes.

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It's just you,

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a picture of you at the end.

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Yes,

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exactly.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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And I mean,

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recently I've added immigration and injuries to the equation,

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but that's as much as you're going to ever see on my billboards.

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That's it.

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That's it.

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Also,

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very smart.

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Let them Google you.

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Yeah,

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that's the whole point is,

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you know,

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I've learned a lot about Google working in this world is,

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you know,

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as much as I'm lawyering,

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I'm also running the business.

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And you learn about,

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you know,

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SEO and PPC and backlinks and how everything works.

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So I have,

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you know,

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spreadsheets and formulas.

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I'm always trying to think of,

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you know,

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if this form of advertising leads to clicks to a different form of advertising it.

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It's so I'm always kind of thinking from that.

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perspective as well.

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The next genre you've got to look at is called GEO,

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which is search on LLMs.

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So if somebody puts in the chat GPT,

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who is the best immigration attorney in Las Vegas,

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you show up.

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Okay.

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Got it.

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It's called GEO.

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GEO.

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All right.

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That's what you want to be.

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Adding that to my list.

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You want to make sure that your website is optimized for GEO.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Thank you for the tip.

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I appreciate it.

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And if you have a smart social media company,

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they will run an audit for you.

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make the changes or give you the information to give to your web dev people on the back end.

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All right.

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You don't want to do it.

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Do you do it yourself?

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No,

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I don't do it myself,

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but I'm involved in,

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you know,

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I like learning it all.

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I'm a very hands-on person.

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So for me,

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it's like,

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there's nothing that gets done in my business that doesn't have like my sign off.

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So you're on everything.

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Everything.

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Yeah.

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And not because I have to be.

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I have some.

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incredible people that work for me and I've been so fortunate to have such an amazing staff and also work with like some great companies along the way too.

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I just,

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one,

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I find it just,

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I find it incredibly fascinating and then two,

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it's my baby,

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you know?

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It's your baby.

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Yeah.

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I know the feeling.

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It's your baby and how dare anybody call your baby ugly because your baby is the most beautiful baby of all time and because you put all that work into your baby.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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They do have like a little bit of a growing phase and it gets a little bit cuter as time goes.

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But,

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you know,

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it's definitely one of those things where I'm just

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I'm very passionate about what I do.

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And I love the business side of things as much as I love the lawyering side of things.

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Is there one that you love more,

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the business side or the lawyering side?

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You know,

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I'd say it's really like at this moment split down the middle because.

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I think a lot of people will say like,

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hey,

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I'm a great attorney and a great business person,

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but I think it's really like you are better at one or the other.

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And I will probably say I'm definitely better at the business side of things.

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So when it comes to the lawyering side of things,

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if there's cases that get complicated or require additional eyes,

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I bring in experience,

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the best of the best.

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I have no problem.

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I'm one of those lawyers that has no problem splitting my fees where I'm like,

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you're going to get.

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Not just me.

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You're going to get this whole other team and we're going to tackle it together.

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Where

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90% of firms do that,

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but they won't tell you that.

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They'll just be like,

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oh,

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we're just good at everything across the board.

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No shit.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So this is not meant at all to besmirch the legal world,

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but I just got done rewatching for the umpteenth time Better Call Saul.

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I love that show.

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Right?

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I mean,

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it's just written so well.

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Vince Gilligan is just brilliant.

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He's so great.

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perfect casting.

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The casting is fantastic.

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It's just,

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you know,

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Odenkirk is unbelievable in it.

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And every time I watch it,

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every two or three years,

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it's a different set of eyes.

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Cause I'm older.

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Yeah.

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And gone through more.

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And I watched Jimmy McGill and he is just so flawed,

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but so brilliant.

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As an attorney.

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Yep.

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And he can't get out of his own way.

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Cause he just can't like,

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he's got it like a moth to a flame.

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He's got to keep going to that flame every time.

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you know,

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and self-destruct.

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Don't mention names,

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but like,

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are there Saul Goodmans in Las Vegas?

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I think that there's definitely,

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you know,

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Saul Goodmans.

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I think you're going to find various personalities in the practice of law.

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you know,

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we're all a little strange in our own way,

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honestly.

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I don't think that you can.

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go through as much schooling.

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And then the schooling is just one half of it,

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right?

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Just because you go to law school doesn't mean you're going to be successful.

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Like the percentage of people who actually go on to become successful lawyers is so small.

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So when you're really looking at that group of people,

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they really are,

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you know,

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a little eccentric,

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just a little different.

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And I mean,

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I love different and weird.

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I'm for sure,

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you know,

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I'm a little weird myself and

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I'm all for it.

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So yes.

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So that would be,

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I guess,

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the long answer to your question.

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question.

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Given the diverse array of legal representation you can get in Las Vegas,

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and let's say personal injury,

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because it's just,

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I mean,

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you swing a dead cat and there's 45 personal injury attorneys out there.

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What are the biggest questions someone should ask a personal injury firm before hiring them?

280
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You know,

281
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I'd say kind of going back to the billboards is ask to meet with the person who's on the billboards and see if that happens.

282
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So...

283
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I think that's like a really good start.

284
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And I can promise you,

285
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I'd say probably eight times out of 10,

286
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you're not going to meet that person because they're just not available.

287
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They don't live here.

288
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So

289
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I think it's really just,

290
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you know,

291
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who is advertising?

292
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Are they actually the ones who are going into the office on a regular basis?

293
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Are they working on your cases?

294
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Are they actually managing their staff?

295
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So for me,

296
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I,

297
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you know,

298
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I have experience from a very high volume practice law firm and I wanted to.

299
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Take what I learned from there,

300
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you know,

301
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the do's and the don'ts and really kind of apply it to a boutique style practice where if someone's ever like,

302
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hey,

303
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I want to talk to Misha,

304
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I want a meeting with Misha,

305
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it's going to happen.

306
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No questions asked.

307
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So

308
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I think it's really just that simple sometimes,

309
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you know,

310
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just make sure you know who you're hiring and,

311
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you know,

312
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don't fall for like some of the gimmicks that you see on like commercials and,

313
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you know.

314
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99%

315
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of cases won.

316
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I don't even know how you track that,

317
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to be honest with you.

318
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Like,

319
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it's just.

320
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I love that one.

321
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I love $400 billion settlements.

322
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Yeah.

323
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What?

324
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Yeah.

325
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What?

326
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Or the TV commercials.

327
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Do you do TV commercials?

328
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I do not.

329
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Okay,

330
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good.

331
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No.

332
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Good,

333
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because I'd be like.

334
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No,

335
00:09:45.464 --> 00:09:47.546
I'm not really a fan of TV commercials.

336
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It's always these commercials of these,

337
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usually these guys,

338
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and there's like this much fine print at the lower part of it as like a disclaimer.

339
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Yeah,

340
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the huge disclaimers.

341
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That's there for like maybe 30 seconds.

342
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You can't read that.

343
00:10:00.797 --> 00:10:00.917
No.

344
00:10:01.237 --> 00:10:03.318
It's in like 0.5 font.

345
00:10:03.418 --> 00:10:04.218
And it's flashing.

346
00:10:05.458 --> 00:10:06.298
And it's flashing.

347
00:10:06.299 --> 00:10:06.719
I'm like,

348
00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:06.839
oh,

349
00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:07.339
my God.

350
00:10:07.579 --> 00:10:07.899
Yeah.

351
00:10:07.900 --> 00:10:08.999
It's shysters.

352
00:10:09.259 --> 00:10:09.419
Yeah.

353
00:10:09.699 --> 00:10:12.160
And it's wild to me.

354
00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:14.181
It's wild to me.

355
00:10:14.381 --> 00:10:14.841
But that's,

356
00:10:15.041 --> 00:10:15.321
I guess,

357
00:10:15.401 --> 00:10:16.321
how they get business.

358
00:10:16.481 --> 00:10:16.761
I'm like,

359
00:10:18.302 --> 00:10:18.742
billboards,

360
00:10:18.802 --> 00:10:19.082
okay.

361
00:10:19.582 --> 00:10:20.782
I'm not a big billboard guy,

362
00:10:20.802 --> 00:10:21.323
but for you do,

363
00:10:21.563 --> 00:10:21.823
yes.

364
00:10:21.923 --> 00:10:24.223
Because if you're driving and something happens.

365
00:10:24.543 --> 00:10:24.743
Yes.

366
00:10:24.944 --> 00:10:25.164
You know,

367
00:10:25.165 --> 00:10:30.045
like how often have you gotten clients from they're in and something happens and they see your billboard right there?

368
00:10:30.285 --> 00:10:30.545
I mean,

369
00:10:30.565 --> 00:10:31.866
I'm right on the 215,

370
00:10:31.986 --> 00:10:34.167
so it happens for sure.

371
00:10:34.407 --> 00:10:34.527
Yeah.

372
00:10:34.687 --> 00:10:34.908
I mean,

373
00:10:34.928 --> 00:10:35.928
so to me,

374
00:10:36.308 --> 00:10:41.831
that is just the marketing end of what you do is just another level.

375
00:10:42.672 --> 00:10:42.792
Yeah,

376
00:10:42.912 --> 00:10:43.292
it is.

377
00:10:43.452 --> 00:10:45.834
It is very competitive and it's always shifting.

378
00:10:46.674 --> 00:10:48.515
And it's a lot of figuring out what works,

379
00:10:48.555 --> 00:10:48.875
you know.

380
00:10:49.195 --> 00:10:52.397
And so sometimes it's trying different things.

381
00:10:52.517 --> 00:10:52.737
And,

382
00:10:53.438 --> 00:10:53.658
you know,

383
00:10:53.659 --> 00:10:56.920
nowadays the social media side of things is so huge too.

384
00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.441
So it's like you're seeing firms try all these different things.

385
00:10:59.481 --> 00:11:00.462
things and,

386
00:11:01.643 --> 00:11:01.883
you know,

387
00:11:01.963 --> 00:11:02.503
pictures.

388
00:11:02.704 --> 00:11:02.904
Okay,

389
00:11:02.924 --> 00:11:04.165
now pictures aren't really a thing.

390
00:11:04.205 --> 00:11:04.525
So like,

391
00:11:04.565 --> 00:11:06.687
let's move to reels and videos and,

392
00:11:07.347 --> 00:11:07.648
you know,

393
00:11:07.728 --> 00:11:08.368
and then it's like,

394
00:11:08.369 --> 00:11:13.592
we got to have the reel be like a short one because everybody's attention span is becoming so small.

395
00:11:13.633 --> 00:11:14.173
So it's just,

396
00:11:14.313 --> 00:11:14.553
you know,

397
00:11:14.633 --> 00:11:16.074
a constant evolution.

398
00:11:16.735 --> 00:11:18.236
Do you exercise?

399
00:11:18.637 --> 00:11:19.757
I love exercising.

400
00:11:19.838 --> 00:11:20.798
What do you do for exercise?

401
00:11:20.938 --> 00:11:24.902
So I weight train and I kickbox and I do Pilates.

402
00:11:25.362 --> 00:11:25.482
So

403
00:11:25.963 --> 00:11:27.664
I'm like a five,

404
00:11:27.724 --> 00:11:28.945
six day a week.

405
00:11:29.045 --> 00:11:29.345
person.

406
00:11:29.405 --> 00:11:29.725
Honestly,

407
00:11:29.765 --> 00:11:31.947
as much as I probably do it for vanity reasons,

408
00:11:31.987 --> 00:11:34.068
I really do it for like mental stability.

409
00:11:34.468 --> 00:11:36.189
It's the cheapest therapy you can ever have.

410
00:11:36.190 --> 00:11:36.689
Absolutely.

411
00:11:36.929 --> 00:11:37.110
Yeah.

412
00:11:37.310 --> 00:11:40.471
You feel great after you're done with the workout.

413
00:11:40.752 --> 00:11:43.433
I'm usually like an early morning workout person.

414
00:11:43.473 --> 00:11:45.234
So it's just how I like starting off my day.

415
00:11:45.654 --> 00:11:46.355
Ever go for walks?

416
00:11:46.955 --> 00:11:47.195
I do.

417
00:11:47.515 --> 00:11:47.675
Yeah.

418
00:11:47.976 --> 00:11:48.576
I actually,

419
00:11:48.736 --> 00:11:48.876
well,

420
00:11:48.916 --> 00:11:50.097
now that the weather's nice,

421
00:11:50.317 --> 00:11:52.018
so I'm from the cold.

422
00:11:52.318 --> 00:11:53.819
So you would think I'm like used to it,

423
00:11:53.959 --> 00:11:54.239
but

424
00:11:54.899 --> 00:11:56.520
I just like when it's like a nice,

425
00:11:56.660 --> 00:11:57.061
cool,

426
00:11:57.361 --> 00:11:57.601
you know.

427
00:11:58.113 --> 00:11:59.434
60 degrees outside,

428
00:11:59.534 --> 00:12:00.554
70 in the morning.

429
00:12:00.594 --> 00:12:00.914
I'm like,

430
00:12:01.374 --> 00:12:02.435
I could walk for miles.

431
00:12:02.915 --> 00:12:03.395
I drop.

432
00:12:03.755 --> 00:12:04.956
I walk six days a week,

433
00:12:05.016 --> 00:12:05.216
five,

434
00:12:05.236 --> 00:12:05.916
six miles a day,

435
00:12:06.116 --> 00:12:07.477
and I drop clips every time.

436
00:12:07.897 --> 00:12:08.117
Do you?

437
00:12:08.137 --> 00:12:08.257
Okay.

438
00:12:08.258 --> 00:12:08.657
For my walks.

439
00:12:08.977 --> 00:12:09.198
Really?

440
00:12:09.199 --> 00:12:09.298
Yeah.

441
00:12:09.299 --> 00:12:10.718
And so food for thought.

442
00:12:10.958 --> 00:12:11.138
Yeah.

443
00:12:11.338 --> 00:12:11.659
And just,

444
00:12:11.699 --> 00:12:12.679
it doesn't have to be legal.

445
00:12:13.359 --> 00:12:15.960
Because people want to get to know you and your brand and who you are as a person.

446
00:12:16.280 --> 00:12:16.541
Yes.

447
00:12:16.701 --> 00:12:18.281
And so phone,

448
00:12:19.122 --> 00:12:19.382
walk,

449
00:12:19.782 --> 00:12:20.302
ponytail,

450
00:12:20.702 --> 00:12:21.583
no makeup or anything.

451
00:12:21.603 --> 00:12:21.743
Yeah.

452
00:12:21.744 --> 00:12:22.083
It's you.

453
00:12:22.263 --> 00:12:22.783
It's raw.

454
00:12:22.784 --> 00:12:22.903
Yeah.

455
00:12:23.183 --> 00:12:25.064
And then get it to your social media team and say,

456
00:12:25.124 --> 00:12:25.604
drop this.

457
00:12:25.944 --> 00:12:26.184
You know,

458
00:12:26.265 --> 00:12:27.125
that is.

459
00:12:27.769 --> 00:12:28.690
Really good advice.

460
00:12:28.730 --> 00:12:29.850
And I'll be very honest,

461
00:12:29.910 --> 00:12:31.151
something that I struggle with.

462
00:12:31.271 --> 00:12:31.471
Like

463
00:12:33.773 --> 00:12:34.333
I, I just,

464
00:12:34.453 --> 00:12:36.074
I'm not a fan of social media.

465
00:12:36.134 --> 00:12:37.255
Like I'll be honest with you.

466
00:12:37.315 --> 00:12:42.659
Like I do it because it is such a huge form of advertising these days,

467
00:12:42.699 --> 00:12:42.979
but like,

468
00:12:42.999 --> 00:12:46.921
I feel like I'm such a private person and I like being disconnected.

469
00:12:47.682 --> 00:12:48.843
And so for me,

470
00:12:49.143 --> 00:12:51.064
it's like when I am on those walks,

471
00:12:51.144 --> 00:12:52.585
I'm usually not on my phone.

472
00:12:53.165 --> 00:12:58.188
And I really have like this like strict morning routine where I have my phone on do not disturb.

473
00:12:58.528 --> 00:12:59.969
I'm usually up at like 5 a.m.

474
00:13:00.029 --> 00:13:01.990
and it's on do not disturb to like 7.

475
00:13:03.391 --> 00:13:06.412
So I really try hard to like live in real life,

476
00:13:06.653 --> 00:13:07.933
if that makes any sense.

477
00:13:07.993 --> 00:13:08.574
It's wonderful.

478
00:13:08.754 --> 00:13:08.934
Yeah.

479
00:13:09.214 --> 00:13:09.634
And,

480
00:13:10.395 --> 00:13:10.635
you know,

481
00:13:10.636 --> 00:13:11.975
because I mean,

482
00:13:12.116 --> 00:13:14.137
I'm guilty of it just as much as anyone else.

483
00:13:14.138 --> 00:13:16.818
Like you start scrolling and before you know it,

484
00:13:16.819 --> 00:13:18.319
it's been like 45 minutes,

485
00:13:18.339 --> 00:13:18.819
an hour.

486
00:13:19.540 --> 00:13:20.920
And also,

487
00:13:20.980 --> 00:13:21.701
I just feel like...

488
00:13:22.097 --> 00:13:24.199
There's so many positives to social media,

489
00:13:24.239 --> 00:13:25.941
but then there's so many negatives too.

490
00:13:26.101 --> 00:13:26.741
It's just

491
00:13:27.142 --> 00:13:27.662
It's awful.

492
00:13:27.663 --> 00:13:28.503
Yeah.

493
00:13:28.504 --> 00:13:29.484
The negatives are awful.

494
00:13:29.564 --> 00:13:30.805
For sure.

495
00:13:30.806 --> 00:13:35.609
The only thing worse than social media and my wife and she watches these and I love her with the heat of a thousand suns.

496
00:13:35.649 --> 00:13:35.989
I love you,

497
00:13:36.009 --> 00:13:36.290
Brandy.

498
00:13:36.330 --> 00:13:38.732
But she got me about a month ago on Candy Crush.

499
00:13:39.192 --> 00:13:39.312
Oh,

500
00:13:39.372 --> 00:13:39.553
yeah.

501
00:13:39.853 --> 00:13:39.993
Yeah,

502
00:13:39.994 --> 00:13:40.654
I've heard of that.

503
00:13:40.774 --> 00:13:40.894
Oh,

504
00:13:41.034 --> 00:13:41.514
don't do it.

505
00:13:42.255 --> 00:13:42.675
Don't do it.

506
00:13:42.676 --> 00:13:42.876
Yeah.

507
00:13:43.876 --> 00:13:44.977
It's like yeah.

508
00:13:45.218 --> 00:13:47.219
If you have remotely addictive personality,

509
00:13:47.580 --> 00:13:48.721
Candy Crush is it

510
00:13:49.785 --> 00:13:58.207
I'm now running AI models that I'm creating business plans for my clients to have the addictive nature of the business model of Candy Crush.

511
00:13:58.828 --> 00:13:58.948
Oh,

512
00:13:58.988 --> 00:13:59.208
wow.

513
00:13:59.448 --> 00:13:59.728
Okay.

514
00:13:59.808 --> 00:14:00.588
Reverse engineer it.

515
00:14:01.248 --> 00:14:01.968
That's how good it is.

516
00:14:02.448 --> 00:14:02.709
I mean,

517
00:14:02.769 --> 00:14:04.469
I know people get very addicted to it,

518
00:14:04.470 --> 00:14:05.769
and it's been around for a while.

519
00:14:05.849 --> 00:14:06.510
For a while.

520
00:14:06.530 --> 00:14:06.810
Yeah.

521
00:14:07.350 --> 00:14:08.470
But the walk thing,

522
00:14:09.170 --> 00:14:09.310
it's,

523
00:14:09.430 --> 00:14:09.670
again,

524
00:14:09.690 --> 00:14:10.751
I want to push back a little bit.

525
00:14:10.771 --> 00:14:10.891
Yeah,

526
00:14:10.892 --> 00:14:11.271
of course.

527
00:14:11.351 --> 00:14:11.631
Please do.

528
00:14:11.632 --> 00:14:13.592
Because it's all about just,

529
00:14:14.372 --> 00:14:14.752
first of all,

530
00:14:15.132 --> 00:14:18.393
how can you reach the most people organically and spend the least amount of money?

531
00:14:18.613 --> 00:14:18.813
Yes.

532
00:14:19.589 --> 00:14:19.769
Right?

533
00:14:19.770 --> 00:14:19.890
Yeah.

534
00:14:20.350 --> 00:14:23.535
And the production value is a cost that's zero.

535
00:14:23.855 --> 00:14:24.015
Yeah.

536
00:14:24.376 --> 00:14:24.816
It's you.

537
00:14:25.477 --> 00:14:26.399
You're going for a walk.

538
00:14:26.919 --> 00:14:28.101
Hold the phone a little bit higher.

539
00:14:28.402 --> 00:14:28.522
Yeah.

540
00:14:28.542 --> 00:14:29.803
Because this looks like you're dominant.

541
00:14:29.804 --> 00:14:31.045
You're going to be dominant over your audience.

542
00:14:31.046 --> 00:14:31.145
Yeah.

543
00:14:31.146 --> 00:14:33.589
So eye level or a little bit above and just.

544
00:14:34.460 --> 00:14:35.080
30 seconds,

545
00:14:35.260 --> 00:14:36.601
45 seconds,

546
00:14:36.641 --> 00:14:37.601
something motivational,

547
00:14:37.741 --> 00:14:38.701
something educational,

548
00:14:38.741 --> 00:14:39.682
something entertaining,

549
00:14:39.762 --> 00:14:43.603
or a hybrid of those and do it and then send it.

550
00:14:43.783 --> 00:14:44.983
Like send it to your team to post.

551
00:14:46.404 --> 00:14:47.044
It's amazing.

552
00:14:47.584 --> 00:14:47.764
Yeah.

553
00:14:48.125 --> 00:14:49.165
What it's done for me is...

554
00:14:50.065 --> 00:14:53.666
And I know people want to see like the real side of you,

555
00:14:54.207 --> 00:14:54.447
you know,

556
00:14:54.487 --> 00:14:56.327
versus just like the business side of you,

557
00:14:56.427 --> 00:14:58.428
like the person that's on the billboards and

558
00:14:58.796 --> 00:15:02.738
So that is something that I do need to definitely get better at.

559
00:15:02.938 --> 00:15:05.539
It's food for thought and we're always looking to evolve.

560
00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:06.039
Yeah,

561
00:15:06.119 --> 00:15:06.359
absolutely.

562
00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:07.220
As a business owner,

563
00:15:07.740 --> 00:15:08.880
we're always looking to evolve.

564
00:15:08.961 --> 00:15:09.161
Yeah.

565
00:15:09.401 --> 00:15:12.642
And it's something that like I'm not a fan of.

566
00:15:12.722 --> 00:15:14.363
This is what I ate tonight or,

567
00:15:14.583 --> 00:15:14.823
you know,

568
00:15:14.903 --> 00:15:16.004
here's a picture of us here.

569
00:15:16.284 --> 00:15:17.264
I don't do that stuff,

570
00:15:17.704 --> 00:15:17.924
but

571
00:15:18.265 --> 00:15:19.765
I love my morning walk videos.

572
00:15:20.005 --> 00:15:20.266
Yeah.

573
00:15:20.486 --> 00:15:20.746
You know,

574
00:15:20.786 --> 00:15:22.026
and I'll drop clips from this stuff,

575
00:15:22.106 --> 00:15:25.488
but my morning walk videos are like it's cathartic for me.

576
00:15:26.376 --> 00:15:28.357
And I'm sure it's probably like a nice like little,

577
00:15:28.557 --> 00:15:31.758
it becomes like almost like a form of therapy or like an outlet.

578
00:15:31.759 --> 00:15:33.958
It is absolutely therapeutic.

579
00:15:34.158 --> 00:15:34.318
Yeah.

580
00:15:34.478 --> 00:15:34.979
And it's,

581
00:15:35.199 --> 00:15:41.440
I'm also holding myself accountable to go on my walk because now my audience is looking forward to the next video I'm going to draw.

582
00:15:41.441 --> 00:15:41.841
And they're like,

583
00:15:41.842 --> 00:15:41.961
hey,

584
00:15:41.981 --> 00:15:43.181
did you not go on your walk this morning?

585
00:15:43.182 --> 00:15:43.321
Yeah,

586
00:15:43.821 --> 00:15:46.862
I get that when I'll take a day off and I'll get three or four DMs going,

587
00:15:46.902 --> 00:15:47.202
hey man,

588
00:15:47.322 --> 00:15:47.582
did you,

589
00:15:47.942 --> 00:15:48.262
you okay?

590
00:15:48.483 --> 00:15:48.603
Yeah.

591
00:15:48.604 --> 00:15:49.343
What's going on?

592
00:15:49.583 --> 00:15:49.843
I'm like,

593
00:15:49.863 --> 00:15:50.283
I'm old,

594
00:15:50.284 --> 00:15:50.743
but I'm okay.

595
00:15:50.883 --> 00:15:51.163
Don't worry.

596
00:15:51.164 --> 00:15:52.324
I'm not that old.

597
00:15:52.524 --> 00:15:53.064
I'm doing okay.

598
00:15:53.792 --> 00:16:01.637
But it's just something that we always have to evolve into a how can we organically reach our audience and be that salmon swimming upstream?

599
00:16:01.877 --> 00:16:02.017
Yeah.

600
00:16:02.817 --> 00:16:03.097
You know,

601
00:16:03.638 --> 00:16:04.798
and it's hard.

602
00:16:05.439 --> 00:16:05.679
I mean

603
00:16:06.279 --> 00:16:07.220
I listen to podcasts.

604
00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:08.400
I listen to Rogan or other

605
00:16:08.780 --> 00:16:09.461
I'm smartless.

606
00:16:09.861 --> 00:16:13.603
But I'll think of something and I'll stop and then film and then 30 seconds,

607
00:16:13.604 --> 00:16:15.344
put it right back and keep going with my walk.

608
00:16:15.544 --> 00:16:15.784
Okay.

609
00:16:16.104 --> 00:16:17.625
I mean and that's great too.

610
00:16:17.665 --> 00:16:22.388
So it's like then I can kind of have a balance of like the way that I live my life and still

611
00:16:23.272 --> 00:16:39.246
conquer social media just it's something to think about yeah um i'm a i'm a big karma guy and i just whenever i think and also raging adhd and so i just if i get something in my head i'm like hey man i just want to and i share with my friends all the time okay good yeah i'm always just that's this

612
00:16:39.247 --> 00:16:50.695
is a very small town how long you been here i've been here since 2014 okay yeah um this is the smallest town i've been here 15 years smallest i've ever been in is vegas in terms of just connectivity to people?

613
00:16:51.076 --> 00:16:51.216
Yeah.

614
00:16:51.896 --> 00:16:52.056
Yeah,

615
00:16:53.177 --> 00:16:56.119
it's a very different type of city in regards to that for sure.

616
00:16:56.620 --> 00:16:57.800
There's great people here.

617
00:16:58.041 --> 00:16:59.802
Like we've made great friends here.

618
00:17:00.002 --> 00:17:00.162
Yes,

619
00:17:00.242 --> 00:17:01.183
so have we.

620
00:17:01.463 --> 00:17:02.424
But then it's like all of a sudden,

621
00:17:02.584 --> 00:17:02.744
oh,

622
00:17:02.824 --> 00:17:03.244
you're leaving.

623
00:17:03.364 --> 00:17:03.484
Oh,

624
00:17:03.585 --> 00:17:04.005
you're leaving.

625
00:17:04.185 --> 00:17:04.305
Oh,

626
00:17:04.405 --> 00:17:04.926
you're moving out.

627
00:17:05.426 --> 00:17:05.566
What?

628
00:17:06.106 --> 00:17:06.307
Yeah,

629
00:17:06.567 --> 00:17:08.688
it seems like people don't stick around long.

630
00:17:09.509 --> 00:17:11.590
Like they always have like a final destination,

631
00:17:11.630 --> 00:17:12.031
I guess,

632
00:17:12.111 --> 00:17:13.212
and Vegas is not it.

633
00:17:14.512 --> 00:17:14.973
It's that.

634
00:17:15.133 --> 00:17:15.293
It's,

635
00:17:15.994 --> 00:17:16.254
you know,

636
00:17:17.054 --> 00:17:19.216
to be a parent here is

637
00:17:20.032 --> 00:17:21.032
People say it's challenging.

638
00:17:21.453 --> 00:17:22.853
My stepdaughter is in,

639
00:17:23.193 --> 00:17:24.233
she's a junior in high school.

640
00:17:24.273 --> 00:17:26.514
My daughter goes to LVA as a performing arts kid.

641
00:17:27.014 --> 00:17:27.294
She's a,

642
00:17:27.394 --> 00:17:28.615
she's a theater major,

643
00:17:29.015 --> 00:17:29.795
voice of an angel.

644
00:17:30.175 --> 00:17:31.055
And my son's in

645
00:17:31.475 --> 00:17:31.876
10th grade.

646
00:17:32.116 --> 00:17:33.116
They're all doing,

647
00:17:33.117 --> 00:17:33.636
they're doing great.

648
00:17:34.296 --> 00:17:34.516
My,

649
00:17:34.716 --> 00:17:35.657
I have a seven-year-old.

650
00:17:35.717 --> 00:17:36.117
So,

651
00:17:36.457 --> 00:17:36.957
and she's,

652
00:17:37.097 --> 00:17:37.917
she's in school here.

653
00:17:38.037 --> 00:17:38.898
She's in a bunch of,

654
00:17:38.978 --> 00:17:39.218
you know,

655
00:17:39.238 --> 00:17:40.458
extracurricular activities,

656
00:17:40.518 --> 00:17:40.878
piano,

657
00:17:40.978 --> 00:17:41.478
ballet.

658
00:17:41.638 --> 00:17:42.639
And she,

659
00:17:43.199 --> 00:17:43.459
I mean,

660
00:17:43.499 --> 00:17:44.319
so far so good.

661
00:17:45.059 --> 00:17:45.980
Do I obviously,

662
00:17:46.280 --> 00:17:46.520
you know.

663
00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:48.181
worry about it as a parent.

664
00:17:48.301 --> 00:17:48.861
Absolutely.

665
00:17:48.921 --> 00:17:50.242
You think about things and,

666
00:17:50.803 --> 00:17:51.043
you know,

667
00:17:51.044 --> 00:17:53.665
I think about schooling and Vegas and social media,

668
00:17:53.825 --> 00:17:56.026
all these different things that she's going to be exposed to.

669
00:17:56.186 --> 00:17:56.367
But,

670
00:17:56.368 --> 00:17:57.127
you know,

671
00:17:57.167 --> 00:18:00.229
she's such a great little kid and she's so structured already.

672
00:18:00.489 --> 00:18:00.830
And

673
00:18:02.231 --> 00:18:03.131
I feel like she's,

674
00:18:03.311 --> 00:18:03.571
you know,

675
00:18:03.892 --> 00:18:04.552
on the right track.

676
00:18:04.592 --> 00:18:06.914
And as long as you're doing everything to be able to keep her there.

677
00:18:07.054 --> 00:18:07.514
All you could do.

678
00:18:07.714 --> 00:18:07.874
Yeah.

679
00:18:08.415 --> 00:18:12.578
It's to be a parent is the hardest but most rewarding job ever.

680
00:18:12.838 --> 00:18:13.098
Yes.

681
00:18:13.258 --> 00:18:15.880
You have a front row seat to the evolution of another.

682
00:18:16.260 --> 00:18:18.121
human being that is here because of you.

683
00:18:18.401 --> 00:18:18.681
Yes.

684
00:18:18.861 --> 00:18:19.002
Yeah.

685
00:18:19.202 --> 00:18:20.102
And that's so cool,

686
00:18:20.262 --> 00:18:20.562
Misha.

687
00:18:20.863 --> 00:18:21.543
It's super cool.

688
00:18:21.683 --> 00:18:22.123
She's my,

689
00:18:22.343 --> 00:18:23.444
she's my little best friend.

690
00:18:23.604 --> 00:18:24.224
Isn't that awesome?

691
00:18:24.444 --> 00:18:24.625
Yeah.

692
00:18:24.785 --> 00:18:25.325
I love it.

693
00:18:25.525 --> 00:18:25.725
Um,

694
00:18:25.885 --> 00:18:26.486
does she have a phone?

695
00:18:27.086 --> 00:18:27.686
She does not.

696
00:18:28.026 --> 00:18:28.287
When,

697
00:18:28.527 --> 00:18:29.327
when is that going to,

698
00:18:29.347 --> 00:18:30.768
if you talk to your husband about that,

699
00:18:30.808 --> 00:18:31.068
about like,

700
00:18:31.069 --> 00:18:32.609
have you had the phone talk yet about when?

701
00:18:32.949 --> 00:18:34.630
So me and her dad are not together,

702
00:18:34.670 --> 00:18:36.191
but we have a great relationship,

703
00:18:36.311 --> 00:18:38.472
like wonderful co-parenting relationship.

704
00:18:38.492 --> 00:18:40.933
So we do talk about everything and we're on the same page.

705
00:18:42.534 --> 00:18:42.654
Um,

706
00:18:42.655 --> 00:18:42.934
honestly,

707
00:18:43.155 --> 00:18:43.275
I,

708
00:18:43.595 --> 00:18:43.715
I,

709
00:18:44.295 --> 00:18:44.715
I have no,

710
00:18:44.875 --> 00:18:45.696
it's going to be a while.

711
00:18:46.624 --> 00:18:47.425
Like it's going to be,

712
00:18:49.326 --> 00:18:55.028
she has a little iPad that we allow her access to watch things.

713
00:18:55.068 --> 00:18:58.690
And she like kind of travels between like our two houses with it.

714
00:18:59.250 --> 00:19:03.892
And she's got like a very limited list of who she can like communicate with.

715
00:19:04.012 --> 00:19:04.993
And it's usually,

716
00:19:05.113 --> 00:19:05.373
you know,

717
00:19:05.374 --> 00:19:06.713
it's just like family.

718
00:19:08.114 --> 00:19:10.155
And then that shuts off at a certain time of the day.

719
00:19:10.235 --> 00:19:12.516
So like we monitor everything and then we.

720
00:19:12.876 --> 00:19:15.798
we know what TV shows and everything she's watching as well.

721
00:19:16.338 --> 00:19:19.600
But I can't imagine just handing your kid a phone.

722
00:19:20.000 --> 00:19:22.982
It just sounds like a bad idea.

723
00:19:24.182 --> 00:19:24.743
It's a bad idea.

724
00:19:24.923 --> 00:19:25.083
Yeah.

725
00:19:25.343 --> 00:19:25.603
I mean,

726
00:19:25.903 --> 00:19:27.504
my stepdaughter and daughter have one,

727
00:19:27.544 --> 00:19:29.905
but Jack is 10 and he's asked several times.

728
00:19:30.066 --> 00:19:32.167
I co-parent very well with his mom.

729
00:19:32.547 --> 00:19:34.688
And the way we do it is it's Roman law.

730
00:19:34.708 --> 00:19:36.769
Either we're both like this or if it's like this,

731
00:19:37.450 --> 00:19:37.690
you know,

732
00:19:37.691 --> 00:19:39.311
if it's one up and one down with thumbs,

733
00:19:39.471 --> 00:19:39.591
no.

734
00:19:39.831 --> 00:19:40.191
It's a no.

735
00:19:40.851 --> 00:19:41.452
And I'm like,

736
00:19:41.472 --> 00:19:41.592
no.

737
00:19:42.650 --> 00:19:42.770
No,

738
00:19:42.930 --> 00:19:43.371
for Jack,

739
00:19:43.391 --> 00:19:45.832
he has ADHD like me and no,

740
00:19:46.653 --> 00:19:50.696
especially that you're three or four clicks away from porn and beheading videos.

741
00:19:51.236 --> 00:19:51.696
It's yeah.

742
00:19:51.757 --> 00:19:52.817
And that's the other thing too.

743
00:19:52.897 --> 00:19:55.599
Like I was joking around with one of my friends,

744
00:19:55.659 --> 00:19:55.960
like,

745
00:19:56.200 --> 00:19:56.460
you know,

746
00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:58.401
a couple of weeks ago and I was like,

747
00:19:58.441 --> 00:19:59.862
I don't go on Instagram often.

748
00:19:59.902 --> 00:20:02.084
I actually prefer TikTok over

749
00:20:02.444 --> 00:20:04.746
Instagram and a couple of different reasons.

750
00:20:04.806 --> 00:20:05.206
TikTok,

751
00:20:05.246 --> 00:20:08.108
I feel like you can set your algorithm really quickly,

752
00:20:08.248 --> 00:20:10.070
like just based on kind of what you're stopping at.

753
00:20:10.090 --> 00:20:10.490
So it's like.

754
00:20:10.950 --> 00:20:11.871
I'm in a music mood.

755
00:20:11.991 --> 00:20:13.572
I'm in an interior design mood.

756
00:20:13.592 --> 00:20:14.633
It just kind of shifts,

757
00:20:14.713 --> 00:20:14.973
right?

758
00:20:16.294 --> 00:20:16.714
Where,

759
00:20:17.014 --> 00:20:19.116
and then I don't know anybody on TikTok either.

760
00:20:19.456 --> 00:20:20.257
So it's just like,

761
00:20:20.337 --> 00:20:24.600
that's like kind of the nice part where it's just like mind numbing scrolling,

762
00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:26.521
where Instagram is like,

763
00:20:26.541 --> 00:20:26.761
okay,

764
00:20:26.961 --> 00:20:28.422
this is all like family and friends.

765
00:20:28.483 --> 00:20:29.643
I'm like engaging.

766
00:20:30.284 --> 00:20:30.824
And,

767
00:20:31.845 --> 00:20:34.307
and then when you're not engaging with your family and friends,

768
00:20:34.347 --> 00:20:36.848
I feel like I'm just getting OnlyFans advertisements.

769
00:20:38.510 --> 00:20:38.990
So.

770
00:20:39.570 --> 00:20:40.330
I was like,

771
00:20:40.331 --> 00:20:44.672
I don't know how I set my algorithm to this or how to reset it.

772
00:20:44.832 --> 00:20:46.013
But that's like,

773
00:20:46.373 --> 00:20:46.693
you know,

774
00:20:46.773 --> 00:20:51.755
I feel like that's basically such a big portion of what Instagram has kind of become.

775
00:20:52.415 --> 00:20:55.817
And so I do worry about that when I see that kind of stuff,

776
00:20:55.877 --> 00:20:56.337
because I'm like,

777
00:20:56.357 --> 00:21:01.619
I don't want my daughter to be exposed to that.

778
00:21:01.719 --> 00:21:05.641
I don't want her to be exposed to girls who are AI and thinking like,

779
00:21:05.901 --> 00:21:06.161
you know,

780
00:21:06.341 --> 00:21:08.542
this is like the ideal way to look.

781
00:21:08.762 --> 00:21:22.593
or the ideal body it's and it's not even real um so you know I'm I'm very mindful of that and then also just the um addiction part of things right I think that people just like when you go to dinner like

782
00:21:22.994 --> 00:21:31.300
I am very much a person who likes to put my phone away and I mean trust me if I need I am also a person who needs to be very connected but uh

783
00:21:32.141 --> 00:21:38.386
I think it's always nice when you see people put their phones away and actually be present versus like a couple who's at

784
00:21:38.694 --> 00:21:42.237
dinner and they're both just like independently scrolling on their phones.

785
00:21:42.978 --> 00:21:47.882
I think that if you have your phone out in public at a dinner,

786
00:21:47.883 --> 00:21:48.363
at a meal,

787
00:21:48.364 --> 00:21:49.204
at a dinner table,

788
00:21:49.784 --> 00:21:52.146
and your kids are there and they have a tablet,

789
00:21:52.166 --> 00:21:52.767
their phones out,

790
00:21:52.787 --> 00:21:53.407
you're a shitty parent.

791
00:21:53.928 --> 00:21:54.088
Yeah.

792
00:21:54.288 --> 00:21:55.409
It's like,

793
00:21:55.809 --> 00:21:56.930
I love conversation.

794
00:21:57.151 --> 00:21:57.911
I love like,

795
00:21:57.951 --> 00:21:58.232
just,

796
00:21:58.332 --> 00:21:58.652
you know,

797
00:21:58.872 --> 00:21:59.072
yeah.

798
00:21:59.193 --> 00:21:59.353
Like,

799
00:21:59.393 --> 00:22:00.153
let's talk.

800
00:22:00.213 --> 00:22:00.414
Like,

801
00:22:00.434 --> 00:22:01.194
how was your day?

802
00:22:01.835 --> 00:22:02.095
You know,

803
00:22:02.195 --> 00:22:03.476
what do you want to do this summer?

804
00:22:03.997 --> 00:22:04.557
And,

805
00:22:05.458 --> 00:22:10.862
It's just like the amount of people that I see just sitting there scrolling and doing this.

806
00:22:10.902 --> 00:22:12.223
So it's like whatever they're looking at,

807
00:22:12.224 --> 00:22:13.704
it doesn't even seem that interesting.

808
00:22:13.705 --> 00:22:16.506
It's that constant dopamine hit is what they're looking for.

809
00:22:16.706 --> 00:22:18.667
And at our house,

810
00:22:19.048 --> 00:22:20.249
Brandy cooks almost every night.

811
00:22:20.289 --> 00:22:20.869
She's from Georgia.

812
00:22:20.989 --> 00:22:23.971
So she's just southern and cooks like it's no one's business.

813
00:22:24.632 --> 00:22:26.313
It's that's why I walk all the time.

814
00:22:26.453 --> 00:22:26.573
Oh,

815
00:22:26.574 --> 00:22:26.933
my God.

816
00:22:27.093 --> 00:22:27.454
I love her,

817
00:22:27.455 --> 00:22:27.634
but oh,

818
00:22:27.635 --> 00:22:27.914
my God.

819
00:22:28.474 --> 00:22:29.975
But we have there's no electronics.

820
00:22:30.816 --> 00:22:31.016
Okay.

821
00:22:31.017 --> 00:22:31.557
I love that.

822
00:22:31.558 --> 00:22:32.817
And my kids are over all the time.

823
00:22:32.918 --> 00:22:33.218
And so.

824
00:22:33.702 --> 00:22:34.443
It's no electronics.

825
00:22:34.444 --> 00:22:35.503
I don't care if it's dead silence.

826
00:22:36.204 --> 00:22:37.565
But we're not having our fucking phones at the table.

827
00:22:37.765 --> 00:22:37.885
No,

828
00:22:37.965 --> 00:22:38.725
and that's perfect.

829
00:22:39.386 --> 00:22:40.527
Who cares if it's silent,

830
00:22:40.687 --> 00:22:41.007
you know?

831
00:22:41.848 --> 00:22:45.070
And it's to the point where my stepdaughter sometimes gets uncomfortable.

832
00:22:45.190 --> 00:22:46.331
And she said this with silence.

833
00:22:46.371 --> 00:22:46.891
And I told her,

834
00:22:46.892 --> 00:22:47.011
I go,

835
00:22:47.031 --> 00:22:47.211
honey,

836
00:22:47.231 --> 00:22:48.732
and I love Soph.

837
00:22:48.772 --> 00:22:48.952
I go,

838
00:22:48.972 --> 00:22:49.112
honey,

839
00:22:49.132 --> 00:22:52.515
because you're so used to that dopamine hit of scrolling.

840
00:22:52.675 --> 00:22:52.835
Yeah.

841
00:22:53.155 --> 00:22:55.577
That your brain is so wired to that.

842
00:22:55.637 --> 00:22:56.758
And that's not good.

843
00:22:57.298 --> 00:22:57.418
No,

844
00:22:58.939 --> 00:23:00.120
I appreciate silence.

845
00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:03.182
Like there are days where I just had like the...

846
00:23:03.306 --> 00:23:04.307
craziest day ever.

847
00:23:04.367 --> 00:23:05.267
And I love music.

848
00:23:05.307 --> 00:23:06.328
Like I live for it.

849
00:23:06.488 --> 00:23:08.989
I'm a very much like a live music type person.

850
00:23:09.490 --> 00:23:11.551
So I look forward to getting in my car and playing it.

851
00:23:11.591 --> 00:23:16.213
But there are days I drive home from the office like in complete silence because I just know I've had,

852
00:23:16.874 --> 00:23:17.114
you know,

853
00:23:17.154 --> 00:23:19.755
just one of those days where it's been like one thing after the other.

854
00:23:19.855 --> 00:23:22.257
And it's that in itself is therapeutic.

855
00:23:22.797 --> 00:23:26.839
And then you go home and then I'll park in my driveway and I'll sit there for like 10 minutes.

856
00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:27.199
And I'm like,

857
00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:29.001
this is like my disassociation time.

858
00:23:31.002 --> 00:23:31.142
So.

859
00:23:31.662 --> 00:23:34.464
You find different things that like work for you.

860
00:23:34.684 --> 00:23:36.525
But I think the constant,

861
00:23:37.365 --> 00:23:37.605
you know,

862
00:23:37.685 --> 00:23:38.646
just being on your phone,

863
00:23:38.666 --> 00:23:42.988
being on social media is definitely not great for anyone at any age.

864
00:23:43.408 --> 00:23:44.269
It's okay to be bored.

865
00:23:44.629 --> 00:23:44.829
Yeah.

866
00:23:45.169 --> 00:23:46.270
It's okay to be bored.

867
00:23:46.271 --> 00:23:46.710
For sure.

868
00:23:46.950 --> 00:23:48.071
And enjoy your own company.

869
00:23:48.891 --> 00:23:49.071
Yeah.

870
00:23:49.352 --> 00:23:49.612
I mean,

871
00:23:50.412 --> 00:23:51.873
it's the best way to work on yourself.

872
00:23:52.273 --> 00:23:52.433
Yeah.

873
00:23:52.673 --> 00:23:54.995
I have some of the best interactions with my son.

874
00:23:55.275 --> 00:23:56.375
We'll go for walks together.

875
00:23:56.976 --> 00:23:57.516
I love that.

876
00:23:57.596 --> 00:23:58.396
That's actually.

877
00:23:58.497 --> 00:23:58.737
And,

878
00:23:59.257 --> 00:23:59.497
you know,

879
00:23:59.897 --> 00:24:00.758
when he gets older.

880
00:24:01.198 --> 00:24:02.319
He's going to remember that.

881
00:24:02.459 --> 00:24:02.779
Yeah.

882
00:24:02.780 --> 00:24:02.899
Yeah.

883
00:24:03.079 --> 00:24:05.400
Those are going to be like the moments he looks back at and remembers.

884
00:24:05.941 --> 00:24:07.081
I cherish that with him.

885
00:24:08.082 --> 00:24:08.322
You know,

886
00:24:08.342 --> 00:24:10.363
I'm trying to get both of us got to lose a little bit of weight.

887
00:24:10.443 --> 00:24:12.324
So he knows 10,000 steps every day.

888
00:24:12.424 --> 00:24:12.725
Yeah.

889
00:24:12.805 --> 00:24:14.085
Whether he's at his mom's house or with me.

890
00:24:14.226 --> 00:24:18.568
And so we go out together for these walks and it's just wonderful.

891
00:24:19.008 --> 00:24:20.729
I let him dictate the conversation.

892
00:24:20.969 --> 00:24:21.169
Yeah.

893
00:24:21.650 --> 00:24:23.391
And we're talking about like the,

894
00:24:23.671 --> 00:24:23.911
you know,

895
00:24:23.971 --> 00:24:24.591
the sun.

896
00:24:24.672 --> 00:24:28.754
He's into all the planets and Star Wars and Legos and all the things a 10-year-old boy should be.

897
00:24:29.243 --> 00:24:29.845
involved with.

898
00:24:29.946 --> 00:24:30.207
Yes.

899
00:24:30.408 --> 00:24:32.617
And I just double down on all of that with him.

900
00:24:33.331 --> 00:24:55.614
um he's teaching himself guitar he's learning metallica oh because we watch stranger things it's my type of kid master of puppets which i'm metalhead from the 80s that's uh i'm more of like a 90s rock and roll girl okay so grunge rock era angry chains oh god yes yeah so but i mean of course i can appreciate metallica i'm looking very forward to seeing them at the sphere are going to go?

901
00:24:55.934 --> 00:24:56.054
Yeah,

902
00:24:56.074 --> 00:24:56.354
for sure.

903
00:24:56.895 --> 00:25:01.578
I got tickets and then I heard Tools like talking about going to the Sphere.

904
00:25:01.598 --> 00:25:02.158
So I was like,

905
00:25:02.238 --> 00:25:02.518
for me,

906
00:25:02.798 --> 00:25:04.479
I'm a bigger Tool fan than I am Metallica.

907
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:04.899
Did you see them?

908
00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:06.080
I saw them last year,

909
00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:06.460
I think.

910
00:25:06.461 --> 00:25:07.181
They were at T-Mobile.

911
00:25:07.182 --> 00:25:07.801
Did you see them then?

912
00:25:07.901 --> 00:25:08.661
I didn't see them then.

913
00:25:08.702 --> 00:25:10.182
I saw them a couple of years ago.

914
00:25:11.523 --> 00:25:13.064
But this year,

915
00:25:13.224 --> 00:25:14.705
I'm going to be going and seeing

916
00:25:15.305 --> 00:25:18.387
System of an Al and Korn here in like a month from now.

917
00:25:18.407 --> 00:25:19.748
I love you.

918
00:25:20.148 --> 00:25:21.529
Yeah.

919
00:25:21.549 --> 00:25:22.089
Dude.

920
00:25:22.589 --> 00:25:22.729
Yeah.

921
00:25:23.310 --> 00:25:24.530
I love all that music.

922
00:25:25.151 --> 00:25:25.451
It's,

923
00:25:26.135 --> 00:25:26.595
It's my,

924
00:25:26.715 --> 00:25:28.376
and it's not just like my gym playlist.

925
00:25:28.396 --> 00:25:29.116
It's just like my,

926
00:25:29.697 --> 00:25:30.057
my play.

927
00:25:30.058 --> 00:25:30.917
And then it's kind of funny.

928
00:25:30.977 --> 00:25:34.459
Cause I go from like a corn song to like a Zach Bryan song.

929
00:25:34.579 --> 00:25:35.519
Like that's kind of my,

930
00:25:35.879 --> 00:25:36.540
my range.

931
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:38.440
That'd be great content for you.

932
00:25:39.021 --> 00:25:40.421
Start throwing out some content about,

933
00:25:40.801 --> 00:25:41.041
you know,

934
00:25:41.302 --> 00:25:42.062
bet you never knew.

935
00:25:42.302 --> 00:25:43.242
And then all of a sudden,

936
00:25:43.362 --> 00:25:43.623
you know,

937
00:25:43.643 --> 00:25:46.184
a picture of you like banging your head and going like this and,

938
00:25:46.504 --> 00:25:46.724
you know,

939
00:25:46.725 --> 00:25:49.005
when they're playing tool or corn is wonderful too.

940
00:25:49.285 --> 00:25:49.465
Yeah,

941
00:25:49.745 --> 00:25:49.865
no,

942
00:25:50.025 --> 00:25:50.145
I,

943
00:25:50.285 --> 00:25:50.826
I've actually,

944
00:25:51.046 --> 00:25:51.346
um,

945
00:25:51.746 --> 00:25:51.906
they're,

946
00:25:51.986 --> 00:25:53.007
they're great live.

947
00:25:53.427 --> 00:25:53.607
Yeah.

948
00:25:53.827 --> 00:25:54.888
They're amazing.

949
00:25:54.908 --> 00:25:56.629
Like I've seen them probably like five,

950
00:25:56.669 --> 00:25:57.250
six times.

951
00:25:57.470 --> 00:25:57.690
Really?

952
00:25:57.950 --> 00:25:58.851
Yeah.

953
00:25:58.852 --> 00:26:00.212
And that's we're blessed here.

954
00:26:00.673 --> 00:26:00.793
Oh,

955
00:26:00.913 --> 00:26:01.073
yeah,

956
00:26:01.153 --> 00:26:02.494
because everybody comes through town.

957
00:26:02.495 --> 00:26:05.637
I mean everyone comes here and you get we're ruined.

958
00:26:06.057 --> 00:26:06.858
You go to the Sphere,

959
00:26:07.678 --> 00:26:09.940
you're ruined forever to see a show.

960
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:10.801
For sure.

961
00:26:11.121 --> 00:26:12.682
I was fortunate enough.

962
00:26:13.103 --> 00:26:14.824
Me and my boyfriend went to go see the

963
00:26:15.304 --> 00:26:16.145
UFC at the Sphere.

964
00:26:16.626 --> 00:26:19.128
I was like this was like that was the coolest experience ever.

965
00:26:19.208 --> 00:26:22.150
So I'm not saying that the ones afterwards haven't been,

966
00:26:22.330 --> 00:26:22.630
you know,

967
00:26:23.031 --> 00:26:23.191
as...

968
00:26:23.807 --> 00:26:25.427
They haven't lived up to the expectation,

969
00:26:25.448 --> 00:26:27.608
but I just think it was such a unique experience.

970
00:26:27.728 --> 00:26:30.669
It's another dimension of entertainment that you just never see anywhere else.

971
00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:31.009
Yeah,

972
00:26:31.229 --> 00:26:31.649
for sure.

973
00:26:32.689 --> 00:26:33.270
Absolutely.

974
00:26:33.370 --> 00:26:34.010
And worth every penny.

975
00:26:34.170 --> 00:26:35.150
Like it's expensive as hell.

976
00:26:35.151 --> 00:26:36.510
You got to mortgage your house to get a ticket,

977
00:26:36.570 --> 00:26:38.191
but it's Yeah.

978
00:26:38.192 --> 00:26:38.291
Yeah,

979
00:26:38.292 --> 00:26:38.951
I've been twice.

980
00:26:39.331 --> 00:26:42.332
I'm dead in company because a buddy of mine was in town,

981
00:26:42.372 --> 00:26:42.992
my best friend.

982
00:26:43.032 --> 00:26:43.252
I'm like,

983
00:26:43.292 --> 00:26:43.512
okay,

984
00:26:43.592 --> 00:26:44.493
let's eat gummies and go.

985
00:26:44.713 --> 00:26:45.093
Fine.

986
00:26:45.233 --> 00:26:45.613
Yeah.

987
00:26:45.993 --> 00:26:46.773
And then you too.

988
00:26:47.353 --> 00:26:47.593
Okay,

989
00:26:47.714 --> 00:26:47.834
yeah.

990
00:26:47.854 --> 00:26:49.334
We saw you too and then

991
00:26:50.034 --> 00:26:51.655
Lady Gaga made a guest appearance.

992
00:26:51.656 --> 00:26:52.235
I was there.

993
00:26:52.355 --> 00:26:52.475
Oh,

994
00:26:52.515 --> 00:26:52.715
really?

995
00:26:52.835 --> 00:26:53.095
Okay.

996
00:26:53.415 --> 00:26:53.535
Yeah.

997
00:26:53.615 --> 00:26:54.716
So we were there the same night.

998
00:26:54.856 --> 00:26:55.296
I was there.

999
00:26:55.297 --> 00:26:55.697
I'm crazy.

1000
00:26:55.937 --> 00:26:56.097
Yep.

1001
00:26:56.217 --> 00:26:57.138
And everyone,

1002
00:26:57.278 --> 00:26:57.718
pro tip,

1003
00:26:57.858 --> 00:26:59.139
don't get section 100.

1004
00:26:59.919 --> 00:27:00.040
No.

1005
00:27:00.060 --> 00:27:00.440
The worst.

1006
00:27:00.441 --> 00:27:02.221
So the thing,

1007
00:27:02.341 --> 00:27:05.683
the key with the sphere is you want to actually sit further away.

1008
00:27:06.144 --> 00:27:08.165
And you want to sit in like the twos,

1009
00:27:08.265 --> 00:27:09.126
even preferably the

1010
00:27:09.906 --> 00:27:12.088
300s. And it's kind of deceiving because of course,

1011
00:27:12.128 --> 00:27:13.609
like with every other concert venue,

1012
00:27:13.649 --> 00:27:14.229
everyone's like,

1013
00:27:14.249 --> 00:27:14.369
oh,

1014
00:27:14.370 --> 00:27:14.850
100,

1015
00:27:14.990 --> 00:27:15.750
I'm going to be closer.

1016
00:27:16.371 --> 00:27:18.012
But then you miss a lot of things.

1017
00:27:18.212 --> 00:27:19.032
You don't want to be on the floor.

1018
00:27:19.193 --> 00:27:19.313
No.

1019
00:27:19.353 --> 00:27:20.413
You don't want 100,

1020
00:27:20.453 --> 00:27:22.215
but level two or 300 dead center.

1021
00:27:22.475 --> 00:27:22.655
Yep.

1022
00:27:22.915 --> 00:27:24.977
is what will blow your mind.

1023
00:27:25.197 --> 00:27:25.417
Yes.

1024
00:27:25.857 --> 00:27:26.198
Blow your mind.

1025
00:27:26.758 --> 00:27:28.219
You'll see and hear everything.

1026
00:27:30.201 --> 00:27:31.182
Let's circle back to law.

1027
00:27:31.222 --> 00:27:31.362
Yeah,

1028
00:27:31.363 --> 00:27:31.602
for sure.

1029
00:27:31.742 --> 00:27:31.982
Okay,

1030
00:27:32.142 --> 00:27:34.904
so there's a couple topics I wanted to touch on with you.

1031
00:27:34.945 --> 00:27:35.305
First of all,

1032
00:27:35.545 --> 00:27:36.125
dog bites?

1033
00:27:36.926 --> 00:27:37.226
Yes,

1034
00:27:37.807 --> 00:27:37.987
yeah.

1035
00:27:38.127 --> 00:27:39.308
Like you've handled dog bites.

1036
00:27:39.428 --> 00:27:42.110
It's just funny because that's such a niche thing.

1037
00:27:42.250 --> 00:27:42.450
Yeah.

1038
00:27:42.831 --> 00:27:42.951
So.

1039
00:27:43.779 --> 00:27:44.580
How did that happen?

1040
00:27:44.700 --> 00:27:45.080
And like,

1041
00:27:45.380 --> 00:27:46.861
talk to me about dog bite cases.

1042
00:27:46.941 --> 00:27:47.061
So,

1043
00:27:47.221 --> 00:27:47.481
I mean,

1044
00:27:47.541 --> 00:27:49.482
I handle everything negligence related.

1045
00:27:49.762 --> 00:27:51.703
So just basically means where somebody,

1046
00:27:51.803 --> 00:27:52.043
you know,

1047
00:27:52.203 --> 00:27:58.365
has a duty to use reasonable care and they fail to do so for some reason.

1048
00:27:58.485 --> 00:27:58.606
So,

1049
00:27:58.866 --> 00:27:59.106
you know,

1050
00:27:59.466 --> 00:28:01.347
very similar to like a car accident,

1051
00:28:01.387 --> 00:28:06.789
you have to make sure that you are safeguarding your pets and that they are,

1052
00:28:06.869 --> 00:28:07.129
you know,

1053
00:28:07.229 --> 00:28:07.889
on a leash,

1054
00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:11.091
properly maintained if somebody's coming to your house.

1055
00:28:11.723 --> 00:28:17.466
And you know that your animals have like a propensity to bite or attack or anything like that,

1056
00:28:17.467 --> 00:28:19.367
or maybe they're just even slightly aggressive.

1057
00:28:19.447 --> 00:28:22.489
So you have to kind of pay attention to those types of things.

1058
00:28:22.529 --> 00:28:23.550
So I have had,

1059
00:28:23.950 --> 00:28:24.210
you know,

1060
00:28:24.810 --> 00:28:28.452
several dog bite situations over my career come up.

1061
00:28:28.612 --> 00:28:29.693
And unfortunately,

1062
00:28:29.793 --> 00:28:31.734
most of them have been with children.

1063
00:28:32.494 --> 00:28:32.615
So,

1064
00:28:33.115 --> 00:28:33.235
yeah,

1065
00:28:33.455 --> 00:28:34.836
really young children.

1066
00:28:35.976 --> 00:28:36.276
And,

1067
00:28:36.317 --> 00:28:36.597
you know,

1068
00:28:37.537 --> 00:28:40.619
a couple of them that I can think of in particular that resulted in.

1069
00:28:40.879 --> 00:28:42.320
pretty serious disfigurement.

1070
00:28:43.100 --> 00:28:43.220
So,

1071
00:28:44.060 --> 00:28:44.300
you know,

1072
00:28:44.360 --> 00:28:47.021
it's not just going through the treatment and trying to get them better,

1073
00:28:47.401 --> 00:28:48.122
stitches,

1074
00:28:48.242 --> 00:28:49.262
removal of skin,

1075
00:28:49.602 --> 00:28:50.763
all of these different things.

1076
00:28:50.803 --> 00:28:52.423
But then it's like scar treatment.

1077
00:28:52.603 --> 00:28:55.564
And this one poor child was bit on the face.

1078
00:28:55.764 --> 00:28:57.285
So that was,

1079
00:28:57.425 --> 00:28:57.665
you know,

1080
00:28:57.666 --> 00:28:59.586
and that's how we evaluate claims as well,

1081
00:28:59.806 --> 00:29:01.506
is just like where they're bitten,

1082
00:29:02.687 --> 00:29:02.947
you know.

1083
00:29:03.267 --> 00:29:10.909
Is it like a woman dealing with a scar or a child dealing with a scar is considered to be a little bit worse than a man dealing with a scar?

1084
00:29:11.030 --> 00:29:15.211
So there's all these different things that you take into consideration with these types of cases.

1085
00:29:15.291 --> 00:29:16.091
But it happens.

1086
00:29:16.171 --> 00:29:17.672
It happens a lot.

1087
00:29:18.312 --> 00:29:18.772
And,

1088
00:29:19.312 --> 00:29:19.552
you know,

1089
00:29:19.553 --> 00:29:20.513
it's not just in parks.

1090
00:29:20.533 --> 00:29:22.213
Sometimes it's on people's property.

1091
00:29:22.493 --> 00:29:22.613
So

1092
00:29:24.154 --> 00:29:27.815
I've seen recent dog bite videos of just people walking down.

1093
00:29:28.626 --> 00:29:31.670
street in New York City and getting bit by a dog.

1094
00:29:31.750 --> 00:29:33.091
So that's the other thing too,

1095
00:29:33.131 --> 00:29:35.093
is like depending on the state that you're in,

1096
00:29:35.334 --> 00:29:37.957
like even if you're walking your dog properly on a leash,

1097
00:29:38.017 --> 00:29:38.597
if they have...

1098
00:29:39.232 --> 00:29:39.512
you know,

1099
00:29:40.512 --> 00:29:42.533
if they show any kind of aggressive behavior,

1100
00:29:42.593 --> 00:29:44.533
then maybe a muzzle is required.

1101
00:29:45.414 --> 00:29:45.614
You know,

1102
00:29:45.615 --> 00:29:49.055
maybe don't take them into such a high populated area.

1103
00:29:49.195 --> 00:29:50.195
So these are,

1104
00:29:50.415 --> 00:29:50.655
you know,

1105
00:29:50.735 --> 00:29:53.496
various things that you would think are common sense.

1106
00:29:53.636 --> 00:29:59.398
But the reason dog bites happen is because unfortunately we lack on the common sense in some aspects.

1107
00:29:59.399 --> 00:29:59.518
No,

1108
00:30:00.858 --> 00:30:00.978
no,

1109
00:30:01.438 --> 00:30:01.738
Misha,

1110
00:30:01.818 --> 00:30:02.438
say it isn't so.

1111
00:30:02.899 --> 00:30:03.139
Yeah.

1112
00:30:03.479 --> 00:30:05.259
So that's why I have a job.

1113
00:30:05.739 --> 00:30:06.780
You ever sit and look at stuff and go,

1114
00:30:06.781 --> 00:30:07.620
what a fucking dumbass.

1115
00:30:08.456 --> 00:30:08.897
You have to.

1116
00:30:09.277 --> 00:30:09.577
I mean,

1117
00:30:09.777 --> 00:30:10.778
there is sometimes go,

1118
00:30:10.818 --> 00:30:12.639
what's a fucking person thinking?

1119
00:30:13.239 --> 00:30:14.680
I come across cases like that all the time.

1120
00:30:14.681 --> 00:30:15.660
It's job security for you,

1121
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:15.840
man.

1122
00:30:16.381 --> 00:30:16.821
I mean,

1123
00:30:17.001 --> 00:30:17.501
I'm sorry.

1124
00:30:17.582 --> 00:30:17.782
Yeah.

1125
00:30:17.922 --> 00:30:18.142
Again,

1126
00:30:18.202 --> 00:30:19.403
not to condone the act,

1127
00:30:19.803 --> 00:30:20.363
but it's like,

1128
00:30:21.144 --> 00:30:21.424
you know,

1129
00:30:22.164 --> 00:30:23.065
play stupid games,

1130
00:30:23.125 --> 00:30:24.085
win stupid prizes.

1131
00:30:24.706 --> 00:30:24.946
Yes,

1132
00:30:25.186 --> 00:30:25.786
absolutely.

1133
00:30:26.186 --> 00:30:26.347
And,

1134
00:30:26.607 --> 00:30:26.847
you know,

1135
00:30:27.627 --> 00:30:28.208
and the thing is,

1136
00:30:28.248 --> 00:30:28.408
like,

1137
00:30:28.468 --> 00:30:29.468
especially like I know,

1138
00:30:29.869 --> 00:30:32.510
and this is obviously up for debate all the time,

1139
00:30:32.570 --> 00:30:35.612
but there's certain breeds that we just know have.

1140
00:30:35.916 --> 00:30:37.837
the ability to be a little bit more aggressive,

1141
00:30:37.917 --> 00:30:38.217
right?

1142
00:30:38.337 --> 00:30:40.819
So you have those particular breeds,

1143
00:30:40.899 --> 00:30:44.741
like you need to be even more mindful because as much as people are like,

1144
00:30:44.781 --> 00:30:45.161
it's not,

1145
00:30:45.241 --> 00:30:46.042
it's never the breed,

1146
00:30:46.662 --> 00:30:47.242
it's the owner,

1147
00:30:47.302 --> 00:30:48.643
it's the person who's training them.

1148
00:30:49.684 --> 00:30:53.506
Most of the dog bites I see usually always fall within those specific breeds.

1149
00:30:53.986 --> 00:30:56.928
What breeds are the most aggressive that you've seen in just,

1150
00:30:57.388 --> 00:30:58.749
and this isn't your opinion,

1151
00:30:58.750 --> 00:30:59.789
this is just case history.

1152
00:30:59.969 --> 00:31:00.089
Yeah,

1153
00:31:00.149 --> 00:31:00.670
case history,

1154
00:31:00.730 --> 00:31:02.071
it's mostly always pit bulls.

1155
00:31:02.491 --> 00:31:02.631
Yeah,

1156
00:31:02.951 --> 00:31:04.612
so those are usually like.

1157
00:31:05.192 --> 00:31:07.774
the ones that I've dealt with the most for sure.

1158
00:31:08.755 --> 00:31:09.415
We have a pit bull.

1159
00:31:09.756 --> 00:31:10.436
Her name is Cookie.

1160
00:31:10.836 --> 00:31:11.097
Cookie.

1161
00:31:11.237 --> 00:31:12.157
Cookie Monster Fargo.

1162
00:31:13.018 --> 00:31:14.899
Her legal middle name is Monster.

1163
00:31:14.919 --> 00:31:15.640
It's hilarious.

1164
00:31:15.641 --> 00:31:16.140
That's so cute.

1165
00:31:16.141 --> 00:31:18.161
And I take her the first mile of my walk.

1166
00:31:18.181 --> 00:31:18.782
I bring her with me.

1167
00:31:19.542 --> 00:31:21.524
And I learned this from my wife because she's the best.

1168
00:31:21.584 --> 00:31:21.844
And so

1169
00:31:22.364 --> 00:31:22.945
Cookie will,

1170
00:31:23.285 --> 00:31:24.366
when she sees like another dog,

1171
00:31:24.546 --> 00:31:25.467
she'll go,

1172
00:31:25.687 --> 00:31:27.608
and so I put like shorter leash.

1173
00:31:27.628 --> 00:31:28.389
I shorten the leash up,

1174
00:31:28.409 --> 00:31:29.109
wrap it around my hand.

1175
00:31:29.369 --> 00:31:29.570
I go,

1176
00:31:29.571 --> 00:31:30.030
be sweet.

1177
00:31:30.270 --> 00:31:30.430
Yeah.

1178
00:31:30.630 --> 00:31:31.331
Make good choices.

1179
00:31:32.011 --> 00:31:32.752
Make good choices.

1180
00:31:33.416 --> 00:31:33.936
99%

1181
00:31:33.937 --> 00:31:34.296
of the time,

1182
00:31:34.436 --> 00:31:35.077
she'll go like,

1183
00:31:37.377 --> 00:31:37.617
dad,

1184
00:31:37.757 --> 00:31:37.997
okay.

1185
00:31:38.037 --> 00:31:38.898
And then she keeps going.

1186
00:31:39.658 --> 00:31:40.198
And that's okay.

1187
00:31:40.298 --> 00:31:43.019
But it's like you need just like parenting.

1188
00:31:43.059 --> 00:31:43.879
When you have a dog,

1189
00:31:44.239 --> 00:31:45.379
you've got to put the time in.

1190
00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:46.380
For sure.

1191
00:31:46.600 --> 00:31:47.280
I have a puppy.

1192
00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:48.300
She's

1193
00:31:49.621 --> 00:31:50.621
10 months old now.

1194
00:31:51.181 --> 00:31:52.001
She's a Bouvier.

1195
00:31:52.401 --> 00:31:54.302
And so she's going to be a big girl.

1196
00:31:54.382 --> 00:31:55.382
She's already like 50,

1197
00:31:55.482 --> 00:31:56.242
60 pounds.

1198
00:31:56.342 --> 00:31:56.683
And

1199
00:31:57.783 --> 00:31:59.843
I sent her away to training for four weeks.

1200
00:31:59.903 --> 00:32:00.644
It wasn't cheap.

1201
00:32:00.824 --> 00:32:01.404
But I was like,

1202
00:32:01.464 --> 00:32:01.804
she's

1203
00:32:02.348 --> 00:32:03.748
the furthest thing from aggressive,

1204
00:32:03.788 --> 00:32:06.569
but she's got like just this maniac level of energy.

1205
00:32:07.189 --> 00:32:11.110
And the way she wants to greet anybody is by jumping on them.

1206
00:32:11.751 --> 00:32:12.291
And so I'm like,

1207
00:32:12.371 --> 00:32:14.671
I can't have her like jumping on like,

1208
00:32:14.672 --> 00:32:14.931
you know,

1209
00:32:14.951 --> 00:32:17.852
a child or like an old person while we're like walking.

1210
00:32:17.932 --> 00:32:18.252
And so

1211
00:32:19.453 --> 00:32:24.294
I had to send her away to training and but the training doesn't just end at four weeks because she has puppy brain.

1212
00:32:24.574 --> 00:32:26.175
So I have to keep it going.

1213
00:32:26.755 --> 00:32:27.155
So you know,

1214
00:32:27.195 --> 00:32:31.056
we've got all the special gadgets and the collars and the...

1215
00:32:31.648 --> 00:32:31.928
You know,

1216
00:32:32.048 --> 00:32:32.168
yeah,

1217
00:32:32.388 --> 00:32:32.869
everything,

1218
00:32:32.909 --> 00:32:33.329
all of it.

1219
00:32:33.549 --> 00:32:34.229
And I was like,

1220
00:32:34.269 --> 00:32:37.531
and I was against all of it because I'm a very like,

1221
00:32:37.891 --> 00:32:38.191
you know,

1222
00:32:38.291 --> 00:32:38.711
just,

1223
00:32:39.232 --> 00:32:39.592
I love,

1224
00:32:39.792 --> 00:32:40.672
I love animals.

1225
00:32:40.712 --> 00:32:42.113
I'm like super sensitive to it.

1226
00:32:42.114 --> 00:32:44.474
You're never going to catch me in a hunting type of scenario.

1227
00:32:45.114 --> 00:32:47.095
But then I realized I'm like,

1228
00:32:47.115 --> 00:32:47.375
you know,

1229
00:32:48.376 --> 00:32:48.576
it's,

1230
00:32:48.896 --> 00:32:50.817
there's only certain things that they respond to.

1231
00:32:51.757 --> 00:32:52.158
And so,

1232
00:32:52.458 --> 00:32:53.858
and so far it's been very,

1233
00:32:54.379 --> 00:32:55.299
very positive.

1234
00:32:55.399 --> 00:32:56.379
And she's just like,

1235
00:32:56.780 --> 00:32:57.160
she's.

1236
00:32:57.928 --> 00:32:59.909
actually caught on to the training quite a bit.

1237
00:32:59.949 --> 00:33:03.311
I just have to kind of keep reminding her and then doing it every day.

1238
00:33:03.652 --> 00:33:04.112
The sit,

1239
00:33:04.252 --> 00:33:04.592
stay,

1240
00:33:05.213 --> 00:33:05.633
down,

1241
00:33:06.053 --> 00:33:07.454
place is my favorite one.

1242
00:33:08.254 --> 00:33:08.435
Yeah.

1243
00:33:08.635 --> 00:33:09.575
I had some ex-girlfriends.

1244
00:33:09.576 --> 00:33:10.276
I wish I could do that.

1245
00:33:11.276 --> 00:33:11.877
Fantastic.

1246
00:33:11.897 --> 00:33:12.417
My ex-wife.

1247
00:33:12.457 --> 00:33:12.577
Oh,

1248
00:33:12.617 --> 00:33:13.157
I'm sure.

1249
00:33:13.678 --> 00:33:13.878
Yeah.

1250
00:33:14.298 --> 00:33:17.500
Have you ever had a case for like a Bichon Frise to fuck somebody up?

1251
00:33:18.140 --> 00:33:18.821
I have not.

1252
00:33:18.881 --> 00:33:19.001
No,

1253
00:33:19.101 --> 00:33:22.443
like a little like Chihuahua or like a Little French bulldogs.

1254
00:33:22.463 --> 00:33:23.684
Those yappy dogs.

1255
00:33:23.944 --> 00:33:28.668
That are always like you're walking by the house and you hear them in the backyard.

1256
00:33:28.708 --> 00:33:32.471
They're losing their mind and jumping up like six feet in the air.

1257
00:33:34.433 --> 00:33:42.539
I've had people obviously try to consult with me where it's like the dogs get into a fight or a tiff and they end up injuring each other.

1258
00:33:43.540 --> 00:33:44.041
Unfortunately,

1259
00:33:44.061 --> 00:33:48.564
those are not cases that I can take because animals are considered property damage.

1260
00:33:49.065 --> 00:33:52.768
So even if you're traveling with an animal in a vehicle.

1261
00:33:53.048 --> 00:33:55.169
And like your dog ends up getting hurt somehow,

1262
00:33:55.209 --> 00:33:56.909
you need to take them to the vet,

1263
00:33:57.309 --> 00:33:57.609
which is,

1264
00:33:57.629 --> 00:33:57.869
you know,

1265
00:33:58.009 --> 00:33:58.870
it happens a lot.

1266
00:33:59.590 --> 00:34:00.990
But they're considered property damage.

1267
00:34:01.070 --> 00:34:02.771
I can't make an individual claim for them.

1268
00:34:02.891 --> 00:34:03.671
Interesting.

1269
00:34:03.831 --> 00:34:04.031
Yeah.

1270
00:34:04.531 --> 00:34:05.591
Because we look at them as people.

1271
00:34:06.072 --> 00:34:06.232
Yeah.

1272
00:34:06.532 --> 00:34:06.972
And I mean,

1273
00:34:07.392 --> 00:34:09.893
my animals are for sure my little people.

1274
00:34:10.053 --> 00:34:10.293
But,

1275
00:34:10.793 --> 00:34:11.033
you know,

1276
00:34:11.133 --> 00:34:11.973
in the eyes of the law,

1277
00:34:12.013 --> 00:34:12.493
they are not.

1278
00:34:13.354 --> 00:34:14.774
Coming from a legal standpoint,

1279
00:34:14.874 --> 00:34:16.515
if you were giving advice to somebody,

1280
00:34:16.755 --> 00:34:17.115
say that,

1281
00:34:17.295 --> 00:34:17.415
say,

1282
00:34:17.555 --> 00:34:18.275
I just got a puppy.

1283
00:34:18.775 --> 00:34:18.895
Yeah.

1284
00:34:18.955 --> 00:34:19.775
And I called you up and went,

1285
00:34:19.835 --> 00:34:19.955
hey,

1286
00:34:19.995 --> 00:34:20.376
honey bunny,

1287
00:34:20.776 --> 00:34:21.276
what do I do?

1288
00:34:21.396 --> 00:34:21.736
What are the...

1289
00:34:22.036 --> 00:34:26.727
main things I need to do in keeping my dog happy and safe,

1290
00:34:26.887 --> 00:34:29.253
but also making sure that my dog is,

1291
00:34:29.854 --> 00:34:30.094
you know,

1292
00:34:30.095 --> 00:34:32.420
going to be safe and not harm anybody else.

1293
00:34:33.611 --> 00:34:34.412
So I would say,

1294
00:34:34.452 --> 00:34:34.692
you know,

1295
00:34:34.712 --> 00:34:36.573
I would ask where the dog's being kept.

1296
00:34:36.913 --> 00:34:40.335
And if the dog's going to be outdoors quite often,

1297
00:34:40.455 --> 00:34:40.656
okay,

1298
00:34:40.736 --> 00:34:43.237
you want to make sure that it's a gated area,

1299
00:34:43.337 --> 00:34:44.198
fenced in area,

1300
00:34:44.318 --> 00:34:45.799
not something that they can get out of.

1301
00:34:45.859 --> 00:34:46.659
Because you have,

1302
00:34:47.180 --> 00:34:47.480
I mean,

1303
00:34:47.580 --> 00:34:49.161
if your house is anything like mine,

1304
00:34:49.181 --> 00:34:49.461
there's,

1305
00:34:49.462 --> 00:34:49.701
you know,

1306
00:34:49.781 --> 00:34:51.923
Amazon packages being dropped off all the time.

1307
00:34:52.083 --> 00:34:55.365
So you want to make sure that anybody who's coming to the front door,

1308
00:34:55.745 --> 00:34:58.447
it doesn't come in contact with your animal.

1309
00:34:58.915 --> 00:34:59.835
And then when you're also,

1310
00:34:59.975 --> 00:35:00.236
you know,

1311
00:35:00.316 --> 00:35:01.176
you're walking them,

1312
00:35:01.436 --> 00:35:05.058
it's you want to make sure that you have the correct leash for them.

1313
00:35:05.118 --> 00:35:05.598
Like for me,

1314
00:35:06.458 --> 00:35:08.839
if I put a normal leash on my dog,

1315
00:35:08.919 --> 00:35:10.900
she's she's dragging me.

1316
00:35:11.880 --> 00:35:12.281
Me and her,

1317
00:35:12.801 --> 00:35:13.061
you know,

1318
00:35:13.341 --> 00:35:14.922
probably in like the next year,

1319
00:35:15.082 --> 00:35:16.502
we're going to weigh the same amount.

1320
00:35:16.642 --> 00:35:19.984
So she's going to win that battle probably every time.

1321
00:35:20.284 --> 00:35:26.407
And so I have to make sure that I have a leash on her where it's like I could properly properly control her if I need to.

1322
00:35:27.067 --> 00:35:27.187
So...

1323
00:35:27.587 --> 00:35:38.530
I would say the main thing is just making sure that they're in a safe guarded area where if you have unattended guests or people that you weren't anticipating coming to your house,

1324
00:35:38.550 --> 00:35:39.550
that they would be safe.

1325
00:35:40.431 --> 00:35:42.511
That your animals are not able to easily get out.

1326
00:35:42.512 --> 00:35:46.573
Because the other reason we see dog bites is they're able to get out and then travel to,

1327
00:35:46.913 --> 00:35:47.153
you know,

1328
00:35:47.253 --> 00:35:48.173
other properties.

1329
00:35:48.893 --> 00:35:49.013
So

1330
00:35:49.433 --> 00:35:51.174
I think those are like the main things.

1331
00:35:51.214 --> 00:35:51.614
It's just,

1332
00:35:51.874 --> 00:35:52.114
you know,

1333
00:35:52.194 --> 00:35:54.875
it's not cheap to have an animal.

1334
00:35:55.475 --> 00:35:56.176
It's expensive.

1335
00:35:56.216 --> 00:35:57.237
It's a lot of training.

1336
00:35:58.277 --> 00:35:58.558
You know,

1337
00:35:58.918 --> 00:36:00.539
there's a lot that goes into it.

1338
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.802
But just like we care for our children and we have to make sure that they're attended to and,

1339
00:36:05.262 --> 00:36:05.523
you know,

1340
00:36:05.603 --> 00:36:07.104
we know their whereabouts

1341
00:36:08.084 --> 00:36:09.245
24 hours a day.

1342
00:36:09.445 --> 00:36:11.587
It's very similar to the animals as well.

1343
00:36:12.187 --> 00:36:12.748
It is.

1344
00:36:13.088 --> 00:36:13.328
Again,

1345
00:36:13.388 --> 00:36:15.430
we look at it as when you have a dog.

1346
00:36:15.450 --> 00:36:16.791
We have a dog and a cat and they're great.

1347
00:36:17.291 --> 00:36:18.052
The cat's an asshole,

1348
00:36:18.112 --> 00:36:20.113
but all cats are assholes as far as I'm concerned.

1349
00:36:20.133 --> 00:36:22.235
I have a cat and she's.

1350
00:36:23.855 --> 00:36:27.197
She scratched the puppy's eye in the first 24 hours of having her.

1351
00:36:27.397 --> 00:36:27.878
No.

1352
00:36:27.898 --> 00:36:28.358
Yeah.

1353
00:36:28.638 --> 00:36:29.539
So I have to have them,

1354
00:36:29.579 --> 00:36:29.899
like,

1355
00:36:31.040 --> 00:36:33.341
I have to have them in separate areas of the house.

1356
00:36:34.762 --> 00:36:35.563
It's a whole thing.

1357
00:36:35.683 --> 00:36:36.504
She's a Maine Coon.

1358
00:36:36.524 --> 00:36:36.644
Oh,

1359
00:36:36.804 --> 00:36:37.504
they're giant.

1360
00:36:37.784 --> 00:36:38.185
She's a giant.

1361
00:36:38.205 --> 00:36:38.425
Giant cat.

1362
00:36:38.426 --> 00:36:38.545
She's,

1363
00:36:38.585 --> 00:36:38.705
like,

1364
00:36:38.706 --> 00:36:39.025
25,

1365
00:36:39.026 --> 00:36:40.426
30 pounds.

1366
00:36:40.967 --> 00:36:42.187
She almost looks like a dog.

1367
00:36:42.267 --> 00:36:42.468
Yeah,

1368
00:36:42.469 --> 00:36:42.888
yeah,

1369
00:36:42.928 --> 00:36:43.068
yeah.

1370
00:36:43.428 --> 00:36:44.849
And she loves humans.

1371
00:36:45.149 --> 00:36:46.750
She's just very territorial.

1372
00:36:47.351 --> 00:36:49.953
And so she has this new puppy come into the house,

1373
00:36:50.133 --> 00:36:51.274
and this puppy just wants,

1374
00:36:51.354 --> 00:36:51.494
like,

1375
00:36:51.495 --> 00:36:51.894
curious,

1376
00:36:51.954 --> 00:36:52.134
like,

1377
00:36:52.174 --> 00:36:53.275
just wants to play with her.

1378
00:36:53.475 --> 00:36:53.835
Fuck you.

1379
00:36:54.156 --> 00:36:55.857
And she went,

1380
00:36:55.858 --> 00:37:00.701
she literally went out of her way around the couch and scratched her eye,

1381
00:37:01.062 --> 00:37:02.363
full corneal rupture.

1382
00:37:02.663 --> 00:37:02.903
Oh.

1383
00:37:03.424 --> 00:37:06.566
And so our first like four weeks,

1384
00:37:06.667 --> 00:37:08.088
four to six weeks of having this,

1385
00:37:08.328 --> 00:37:11.691
this poor puppy was just ophthalmologist,

1386
00:37:11.711 --> 00:37:11.951
you know,

1387
00:37:12.071 --> 00:37:13.332
specialist visits.

1388
00:37:13.372 --> 00:37:15.734
And luckily she didn't lose her sight or anything like that.

1389
00:37:15.735 --> 00:37:17.896
I made sure I did everything possible to,

1390
00:37:18.897 --> 00:37:20.619
but that was traumatizing for everybody.

1391
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:22.700
But again,

1392
00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:24.421
there's a pin in it.

1393
00:37:24.481 --> 00:37:25.782
It's when you have an animal,

1394
00:37:26.302 --> 00:37:26.542
you know,

1395
00:37:26.582 --> 00:37:27.022
and we all,

1396
00:37:27.082 --> 00:37:27.322
again,

1397
00:37:27.362 --> 00:37:28.103
especially with dogs,

1398
00:37:28.203 --> 00:37:28.523
like I said,

1399
00:37:28.543 --> 00:37:29.143
cats are assholes.

1400
00:37:29.243 --> 00:37:30.184
But with dogs,

1401
00:37:30.224 --> 00:37:36.087
it's like you have this bond with your dog and you're just like you humanize it.

1402
00:37:36.327 --> 00:37:36.587
Yes.

1403
00:37:36.987 --> 00:37:38.468
You give it humanistic traits.

1404
00:37:38.688 --> 00:37:38.988
Right.

1405
00:37:39.249 --> 00:37:40.489
But that's you projecting that.

1406
00:37:40.629 --> 00:37:41.370
That's not the dog.

1407
00:37:41.850 --> 00:37:43.951
That you're projecting those traits onto the dog.

1408
00:37:44.151 --> 00:37:44.391
Yes.

1409
00:37:44.611 --> 00:37:47.572
Like people that put the sweaters on their dogs and the booties and all this shit.

1410
00:37:47.592 --> 00:37:48.592
My boyfriend does that.

1411
00:37:48.593 --> 00:37:48.852
And I'm like,

1412
00:37:48.932 --> 00:37:49.192
okay.

1413
00:37:49.352 --> 00:37:49.713
Like whatever.

1414
00:37:49.733 --> 00:37:50.113
It's not me.

1415
00:37:50.453 --> 00:37:50.833
But okay.

1416
00:37:52.033 --> 00:37:52.273
You know,

1417
00:37:52.373 --> 00:37:55.114
but it is there's ways you need to,

1418
00:37:55.614 --> 00:37:55.854
you know,

1419
00:37:56.074 --> 00:37:56.654
stay safe.

1420
00:37:56.754 --> 00:37:59.275
And I'm not a big fan of those telescoping leashes.

1421
00:37:59.595 --> 00:37:59.755
Yeah.

1422
00:37:59.775 --> 00:38:00.015
You know,

1423
00:38:00.016 --> 00:38:01.116
the one I have with Cookie is like,

1424
00:38:01.176 --> 00:38:01.416
you know,

1425
00:38:01.456 --> 00:38:02.216
four feet long.

1426
00:38:02.476 --> 00:38:02.636
Yeah.

1427
00:38:02.756 --> 00:38:03.296
And that's it.

1428
00:38:03.516 --> 00:38:04.216
And like I said,

1429
00:38:04.217 --> 00:38:05.837
if I see somebody we're in Inspirata,

1430
00:38:05.838 --> 00:38:06.817
a bunch of walking trails.

1431
00:38:07.277 --> 00:38:08.238
I see somebody coming.

1432
00:38:08.798 --> 00:38:09.678
If it's another dog,

1433
00:38:09.898 --> 00:38:11.538
I get way over.

1434
00:38:11.879 --> 00:38:12.459
Yeah.

1435
00:38:12.460 --> 00:38:13.199
Another person.

1436
00:38:13.619 --> 00:38:14.980
I get over again,

1437
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:16.141
but also tighten up.

1438
00:38:16.682 --> 00:38:19.684
So I wrap the leash around so there's like maybe a foot.

1439
00:38:20.405 --> 00:38:21.426
So a cookie can't go anywhere.

1440
00:38:21.686 --> 00:38:21.826
Yeah,

1441
00:38:21.827 --> 00:38:21.966
exactly.

1442
00:38:21.967 --> 00:38:22.627
Even if she wants to.

1443
00:38:23.888 --> 00:38:25.229
9.9 times out of 10,

1444
00:38:25.349 --> 00:38:27.011
she just wants to sniff the person and say hi.

1445
00:38:27.511 --> 00:38:28.392
But most people,

1446
00:38:28.452 --> 00:38:28.672
again,

1447
00:38:28.712 --> 00:38:29.533
because with pit bulls,

1448
00:38:29.613 --> 00:38:29.993
it's like,

1449
00:38:30.154 --> 00:38:30.694
oh,

1450
00:38:30.754 --> 00:38:31.275
what am I going to do?

1451
00:38:32.536 --> 00:38:33.196
And believe it or not,

1452
00:38:33.236 --> 00:38:34.357
not everybody likes dogs.

1453
00:38:34.938 --> 00:38:35.058
No,

1454
00:38:35.418 --> 00:38:35.558
really?

1455
00:38:35.578 --> 00:38:35.739
Yeah.

1456
00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:37.120
I know there are some people out there.

1457
00:38:37.121 --> 00:38:38.221
There's space in hell for those people.

1458
00:38:38.901 --> 00:38:39.262
Fuck you,

1459
00:38:39.422 --> 00:38:40.463
people who don't like dogs.

1460
00:38:40.963 --> 00:38:42.624
You can do that when your name's on the podcast.

1461
00:38:43.505 --> 00:38:44.606
But they do exist.

1462
00:38:44.686 --> 00:38:45.467
And so I'd say,

1463
00:38:45.468 --> 00:38:45.707
you know,

1464
00:38:45.727 --> 00:38:48.129
they don't always want to be greeted by your dog either.

1465
00:38:48.729 --> 00:38:49.590
And that's fine.

1466
00:38:49.750 --> 00:38:49.910
It's,

1467
00:38:50.371 --> 00:38:50.611
you know,

1468
00:38:50.691 --> 00:38:51.272
it's funny.

1469
00:38:51.492 --> 00:38:53.593
I think it's Bill Murray has a line where he says,

1470
00:38:54.314 --> 00:38:55.735
if a dog doesn't,

1471
00:38:55.815 --> 00:38:57.036
if my dog doesn't like you,

1472
00:38:57.096 --> 00:38:57.877
how am I going to?

1473
00:38:58.477 --> 00:38:58.698
Yeah.

1474
00:38:59.158 --> 00:39:01.960
Because dogs are a great just barometer of people.

1475
00:39:02.080 --> 00:39:02.761
They really are.

1476
00:39:02.762 --> 00:39:02.901
Yeah,

1477
00:39:02.902 --> 00:39:03.061
for sure.

1478
00:39:03.062 --> 00:39:03.221
And,

1479
00:39:04.162 --> 00:39:04.402
you know,

1480
00:39:04.743 --> 00:39:05.383
you get people like,

1481
00:39:05.403 --> 00:39:05.523
oh,

1482
00:39:05.524 --> 00:39:06.064
I want to come over.

1483
00:39:06.144 --> 00:39:06.364
Great.

1484
00:39:06.424 --> 00:39:06.544
So,

1485
00:39:06.545 --> 00:39:06.764
you know,

1486
00:39:06.765 --> 00:39:07.485
we have a dog and a cat.

1487
00:39:07.645 --> 00:39:08.386
Oh,

1488
00:39:08.686 --> 00:39:09.947
let's come over to our house instead.

1489
00:39:10.351 --> 00:39:10.791
And I'm like,

1490
00:39:11.812 --> 00:39:15.034
I think twice about wanting to pursue a friendship with that person when they say that.

1491
00:39:15.314 --> 00:39:16.355
If they say they're allergic,

1492
00:39:16.855 --> 00:39:17.696
fine.

1493
00:39:17.697 --> 00:39:18.076
I get it.

1494
00:39:18.817 --> 00:39:20.918
A lot of people are allergic to dogs or cat hair or the dander.

1495
00:39:21.078 --> 00:39:21.278
Okay.

1496
00:39:21.659 --> 00:39:22.359
But if you're not,

1497
00:39:22.839 --> 00:39:23.940
if you don't like a dog,

1498
00:39:25.021 --> 00:39:26.222
it's unconditional love.

1499
00:39:27.022 --> 00:39:28.503
Nothing is going to love you more.

1500
00:39:28.543 --> 00:39:30.324
And that's what I want to hear for a short amount of time,

1501
00:39:30.364 --> 00:39:30.665
I think,

1502
00:39:30.705 --> 00:39:30.965
is that

1503
00:39:31.545 --> 00:39:33.947
God put him here to love you so much.

1504
00:39:34.747 --> 00:39:35.748
That they,

1505
00:39:35.928 --> 00:39:37.108
then they get taken on to,

1506
00:39:37.769 --> 00:39:38.589
all dogs go to heaven.

1507
00:39:38.789 --> 00:39:39.029
I mean,

1508
00:39:39.030 --> 00:39:39.510
a great book,

1509
00:39:39.570 --> 00:39:39.870
Michelle,

1510
00:39:40.210 --> 00:39:40.630
great book.

1511
00:39:41.090 --> 00:39:41.471
But it's like,

1512
00:39:42.011 --> 00:39:42.131
no,

1513
00:39:42.511 --> 00:39:42.831
like what,

1514
00:39:43.392 --> 00:39:43.512
it's,

1515
00:39:43.772 --> 00:39:44.953
they feed off of you.

1516
00:39:45.693 --> 00:39:46.734
When I'm having bad days,

1517
00:39:46.794 --> 00:39:47.454
Cookie knows it.

1518
00:39:47.455 --> 00:39:49.295
She gets right in my lap and is licking me and is like,

1519
00:39:49.315 --> 00:39:49.495
dad,

1520
00:39:49.496 --> 00:39:49.895
you okay?

1521
00:39:50.756 --> 00:39:53.717
I always say dogs will for sure be your biggest heartbreak.

1522
00:39:54.198 --> 00:39:54.318
Your,

1523
00:39:54.498 --> 00:39:54.678
your,

1524
00:39:54.938 --> 00:39:57.039
your biggest love and your biggest heartbreak too.

1525
00:39:57.099 --> 00:39:58.600
I've been through it and it was awful.

1526
00:39:59.761 --> 00:40:01.642
And to let Cookie in my life took a lot,

1527
00:40:01.742 --> 00:40:03.242
but I love Brandy with all my heart.

1528
00:40:03.463 --> 00:40:03.783
And so...

1529
00:40:04.627 --> 00:40:05.228
I love Cookie.

1530
00:40:05.548 --> 00:40:05.728
Yeah.

1531
00:40:05.888 --> 00:40:06.669
Frank can fuck off.

1532
00:40:06.809 --> 00:40:07.790
If she's watching the podcast,

1533
00:40:07.810 --> 00:40:08.310
that's our cat.

1534
00:40:08.370 --> 00:40:08.651
Fuck you,

1535
00:40:08.671 --> 00:40:08.891
Frank.

1536
00:40:09.171 --> 00:40:11.353
Mine is my cat's named Scar,

1537
00:40:11.573 --> 00:40:12.774
so it's like very fitting.

1538
00:40:13.675 --> 00:40:13.955
Scar.

1539
00:40:14.315 --> 00:40:15.356
She lives up to her name.

1540
00:40:15.396 --> 00:40:15.796
Lock in,

1541
00:40:15.877 --> 00:40:16.257
Scar.

1542
00:40:17.318 --> 00:40:18.218
Scar's going to watch this and be like,

1543
00:40:18.278 --> 00:40:18.619
fuck you,

1544
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:18.919
Jeff.

1545
00:40:21.041 --> 00:40:21.321
Okay.

1546
00:40:23.963 --> 00:40:24.464
Immigration.

1547
00:40:24.764 --> 00:40:24.944
Yes.

1548
00:40:26.125 --> 00:40:29.147
I want to discuss that with you because especially now,

1549
00:40:29.468 --> 00:40:30.528
it's just all over the place.

1550
00:40:31.089 --> 00:40:31.269
Yeah.

1551
00:40:31.449 --> 00:40:33.331
All like when we were talking

1552
00:40:33.775 --> 00:40:37.458
You were either coming from or going to I think you were in Burbank.

1553
00:40:37.818 --> 00:40:38.018
Yes.

1554
00:40:38.919 --> 00:40:39.859
For an immigration case.

1555
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:40.159
Yeah.

1556
00:40:40.500 --> 00:40:40.760
Right?

1557
00:40:41.260 --> 00:40:43.482
And I never wanted to talk about pending stuff and all that,

1558
00:40:43.842 --> 00:40:44.242
obviously.

1559
00:40:44.462 --> 00:40:48.785
But what type of cases are you do you handle?

1560
00:40:49.106 --> 00:40:49.246
Yeah.

1561
00:40:49.846 --> 00:40:52.928
And then we can talk about all the other things that are going on.

1562
00:40:53.208 --> 00:40:54.529
So in terms of immigration,

1563
00:40:54.530 --> 00:40:55.750
we handle everything.

1564
00:40:55.930 --> 00:40:58.852
So everything from your simple visas,

1565
00:40:58.912 --> 00:40:59.773
your visitor visa,

1566
00:41:00.894 --> 00:41:02.675
you want to travel to the United States.

1567
00:41:03.123 --> 00:41:03.563
Um,

1568
00:41:03.844 --> 00:41:06.186
we do all sorts of investor visas.

1569
00:41:06.246 --> 00:41:07.087
So if you want to,

1570
00:41:07.167 --> 00:41:07.407
you know,

1571
00:41:07.847 --> 00:41:09.108
bring your business here,

1572
00:41:09.849 --> 00:41:09.969
um,

1573
00:41:09.970 --> 00:41:10.490
you want to,

1574
00:41:10.890 --> 00:41:11.490
um,

1575
00:41:11.570 --> 00:41:13.452
participate in a sport out here,

1576
00:41:14.034 --> 00:41:15.134
we do those as well.

1577
00:41:15.474 --> 00:41:15.954
And,

1578
00:41:16.496 --> 00:41:18.977
we also do your adjustment of status cases,

1579
00:41:19.037 --> 00:41:19.457
which is,

1580
00:41:19.798 --> 00:41:20.058
you know,

1581
00:41:20.118 --> 00:41:22.920
somebody marrying someone and coming in your,

1582
00:41:23.161 --> 00:41:24.502
your fiance visas.

1583
00:41:24.682 --> 00:41:25.182
And then,

1584
00:41:25.623 --> 00:41:25.863
you know,

1585
00:41:26.243 --> 00:41:29.726
this year has introduced us to the.

1586
00:41:30.407 --> 00:41:31.427
detainment cases,

1587
00:41:31.507 --> 00:41:34.568
which is like such a huge part of what we're doing right now.

1588
00:41:35.368 --> 00:41:38.149
And those were a little bit,

1589
00:41:38.549 --> 00:41:39.850
I wouldn't say more rare.

1590
00:41:39.930 --> 00:41:40.510
They were just,

1591
00:41:40.570 --> 00:41:40.790
you know,

1592
00:41:40.830 --> 00:41:42.290
you would hear about them here and there,

1593
00:41:42.370 --> 00:41:42.670
right?

1594
00:41:42.730 --> 00:41:45.031
It's just like you had like your standard immigration cases.

1595
00:41:45.091 --> 00:41:49.152
But now I feel like detainment cases are like predominantly what we're doing,

1596
00:41:50.272 --> 00:41:51.353
which is basically just,

1597
00:41:51.354 --> 00:41:51.593
you know,

1598
00:41:51.693 --> 00:41:52.793
attending bond hearings,

1599
00:41:52.853 --> 00:41:54.554
making sure that these individuals,

1600
00:41:54.634 --> 00:41:55.874
like if they were detained,

1601
00:41:55.934 --> 00:41:57.855
do they have the ability to get released,

1602
00:41:58.535 --> 00:41:58.815
you know?

1603
00:41:59.055 --> 00:41:59.315
And.

1604
00:41:59.751 --> 00:42:02.952
if they do have the ability to get released on what grounds.

1605
00:42:03.232 --> 00:42:06.093
So it's really like evaluating.

1606
00:42:06.094 --> 00:42:10.834
And there's no cookie cutter type scenario where it's like we're just able to attach it to every single case.

1607
00:42:11.454 --> 00:42:14.095
Every single scenario is so different because I have to,

1608
00:42:14.635 --> 00:42:14.895
you know,

1609
00:42:14.955 --> 00:42:17.036
determine what their status is.

1610
00:42:17.196 --> 00:42:19.037
If they don't have legal status,

1611
00:42:19.657 --> 00:42:21.157
what's the reason for it?

1612
00:42:22.177 --> 00:42:24.458
Would they be eligible for legal status?

1613
00:42:25.218 --> 00:42:27.279
So we kind of go through that whole process.

1614
00:42:27.419 --> 00:42:27.559
And.

1615
00:42:28.011 --> 00:42:28.251
you know,

1616
00:42:28.252 --> 00:42:32.595
we really stick with these individuals through like from the beginning to the end.

1617
00:42:32.735 --> 00:42:35.757
And like one of the reasons I became an immigration attorney was,

1618
00:42:36.838 --> 00:42:37.099
you know,

1619
00:42:38.780 --> 00:42:39.481
I'm from Canada.

1620
00:42:39.541 --> 00:42:41.662
So as much as some people would like to refer to that as the

1621
00:42:42.123 --> 00:42:42.483
51st state,

1622
00:42:42.523 --> 00:42:43.724
it's still its own country.

1623
00:42:44.765 --> 00:42:45.365
What part of Canada?

1624
00:42:45.666 --> 00:42:46.026
Toronto,

1625
00:42:46.106 --> 00:42:46.466
Canada.

1626
00:42:46.887 --> 00:42:47.407
So I'm,

1627
00:42:47.587 --> 00:42:47.828
you know,

1628
00:42:47.928 --> 00:42:48.668
I'm an immigrant.

1629
00:42:49.329 --> 00:42:51.511
My family's immigrated from all over the world.

1630
00:42:51.771 --> 00:42:52.211
And,

1631
00:42:53.112 --> 00:42:53.352
you know,

1632
00:42:53.532 --> 00:42:55.834
I believe in helping people do it the right way.

1633
00:42:56.034 --> 00:42:56.575
I believe in

1634
00:42:56.835 --> 00:42:57.075
you know,

1635
00:42:57.076 --> 00:43:02.157
when the system is set up to help individuals achieve their dreams.

1636
00:43:02.237 --> 00:43:05.778
And I think that when people are willing to come here and work hard,

1637
00:43:06.418 --> 00:43:06.678
you know,

1638
00:43:06.738 --> 00:43:07.759
and build something,

1639
00:43:07.919 --> 00:43:09.619
and I'm a great example of that.

1640
00:43:09.759 --> 00:43:12.900
So I want to be able to help other people achieve it.

1641
00:43:13.300 --> 00:43:13.620
And,

1642
00:43:13.640 --> 00:43:13.860
you know,

1643
00:43:13.861 --> 00:43:18.062
and I think that's what this country was built on is the American dream.

1644
00:43:18.422 --> 00:43:18.942
And so

1645
00:43:19.442 --> 00:43:21.223
I feel like having the ability to

1646
00:43:22.191 --> 00:43:29.416
really help individuals in that aspect is really fulfilling and sometimes a little bit more fulfilling than my personal injury side of things.

1647
00:43:30.877 --> 00:43:30.997
So

1648
00:43:31.858 --> 00:43:33.138
I think that part's been great.

1649
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:43.245
And then the other thing that really pushed me into immigration was just all of the stories of immigration attorneys disappearing on clients like midway through their cases.

1650
00:43:43.305 --> 00:43:43.666
And I mean,

1651
00:43:43.706 --> 00:43:50.690
these are not people that have money or born into money that just have tens of thousands of dollars that they can shell out.

1652
00:43:50.730 --> 00:43:51.491
These are people who...

1653
00:43:52.355 --> 00:43:54.637
are working multiple jobs,

1654
00:43:54.757 --> 00:43:58.560
borrowing money from their friends and family,

1655
00:43:58.780 --> 00:44:03.303
just really trying to do anything to be able to pay for this case to go through.

1656
00:44:03.423 --> 00:44:08.387
And then so for the person that they're trusting to help get them through the finish line,

1657
00:44:08.427 --> 00:44:11.389
to just drop the ball and disappear on them like that.

1658
00:44:13.631 --> 00:44:19.035
I wanted to really kind of step into this space and just more so from

1659
00:44:19.687 --> 00:44:20.107
Like a little,

1660
00:44:20.267 --> 00:44:20.508
you know,

1661
00:44:20.608 --> 00:44:22.009
obviously from the legal perspective,

1662
00:44:22.049 --> 00:44:23.870
but from an empathetic place as well.

1663
00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:25.892
So you're an immigrant yourself.

1664
00:44:26.132 --> 00:44:26.372
Yes.

1665
00:44:26.732 --> 00:44:26.872
Yeah.

1666
00:44:27.172 --> 00:44:28.914
And you're here legally and you're doing,

1667
00:44:28.934 --> 00:44:29.154
I mean,

1668
00:44:29.214 --> 00:44:30.275
which is awesome.

1669
00:44:30.535 --> 00:44:30.855
Like what,

1670
00:44:31.175 --> 00:44:34.338
what are people regarding ICE and immigration?

1671
00:44:34.718 --> 00:44:35.999
What are people getting wrong?

1672
00:44:37.533 --> 00:44:37.653
So

1673
00:44:38.473 --> 00:44:39.054
I would say,

1674
00:44:39.294 --> 00:44:39.574
I mean,

1675
00:44:39.794 --> 00:44:44.196
what we've been seeing lately is just a whole different level of insanity.

1676
00:44:44.316 --> 00:44:44.636
You know,

1677
00:44:44.696 --> 00:44:45.216
it's just

1678
00:44:46.217 --> 00:44:50.178
I think that there's been not a whole lot of separation of powers.

1679
00:44:51.179 --> 00:44:53.520
There's been a lot of blurred lines.

1680
00:44:54.100 --> 00:44:58.021
There's been multiple situations that I'm dealing with where it's,

1681
00:44:58.061 --> 00:44:58.382
you know,

1682
00:44:58.502 --> 00:45:04.264
just enforcement agencies or even judges are just blatantly ignoring the law.

1683
00:45:05.064 --> 00:45:05.645
And,

1684
00:45:05.925 --> 00:45:06.165
you know,

1685
00:45:06.245 --> 00:45:06.685
I think.

1686
00:45:06.845 --> 00:45:08.306
that it's one of those situations,

1687
00:45:08.366 --> 00:45:10.147
regardless of where your politics fall,

1688
00:45:10.807 --> 00:45:13.529
if you say you're an America first type of person,

1689
00:45:13.809 --> 00:45:15.790
then you believe in the constitution.

1690
00:45:16.410 --> 00:45:18.231
You believe in separation of powers.

1691
00:45:18.311 --> 00:45:18.431
You,

1692
00:45:18.691 --> 00:45:18.932
you know,

1693
00:45:18.972 --> 00:45:20.993
you believe in everything that formed this country,

1694
00:45:21.453 --> 00:45:23.254
which is what makes us very different than,

1695
00:45:23.514 --> 00:45:23.754
you know,

1696
00:45:23.934 --> 00:45:25.415
your normal dictatorship and,

1697
00:45:25.635 --> 00:45:25.895
you know,

1698
00:45:26.256 --> 00:45:27.396
situations overseas.

1699
00:45:28.076 --> 00:45:32.199
And when you're seeing these things take place and you're just like,

1700
00:45:32.419 --> 00:45:32.539
oh,

1701
00:45:32.540 --> 00:45:33.019
this is great.

1702
00:45:33.059 --> 00:45:33.339
This is,

1703
00:45:33.499 --> 00:45:34.760
this is what I voted for.

1704
00:45:35.240 --> 00:45:35.961
Like you can't,

1705
00:45:36.021 --> 00:45:36.281
is that.

1706
00:45:36.521 --> 00:45:38.322
That to me is like a huge contradiction.

1707
00:45:39.083 --> 00:45:40.143
So.

1708
00:45:40.144 --> 00:45:41.964
That was very well answered.

1709
00:45:42.785 --> 00:45:42.905
Yeah.

1710
00:45:43.505 --> 00:45:43.825
Thank you.

1711
00:45:43.826 --> 00:45:44.826
I'm going to press you on a little bit.

1712
00:45:44.946 --> 00:45:45.066
Sure.

1713
00:45:45.687 --> 00:45:46.167
Because

1714
00:45:48.828 --> 00:45:49.629
Biden administration.

1715
00:45:49.949 --> 00:45:50.089
Yeah.

1716
00:45:51.250 --> 00:45:51.670
Come on in,

1717
00:45:51.730 --> 00:45:51.910
man.

1718
00:45:52.030 --> 00:45:52.651
10 million people,

1719
00:45:52.711 --> 00:45:53.171
four years,

1720
00:45:53.992 --> 00:45:54.232
you know,

1721
00:45:54.312 --> 00:45:54.592
and there's,

1722
00:45:54.812 --> 00:45:56.473
there's some bad people that came in the country.

1723
00:45:56.993 --> 00:45:57.214
Them,

1724
00:45:57.554 --> 00:45:57.954
get out.

1725
00:45:58.314 --> 00:45:58.474
Right.

1726
00:45:58.475 --> 00:45:58.975
I'm like all,

1727
00:45:59.155 --> 00:45:59.275
all,

1728
00:45:59.395 --> 00:46:00.275
I'm all for,

1729
00:46:00.816 --> 00:46:01.556
if you are,

1730
00:46:02.177 --> 00:46:02.417
you know,

1731
00:46:02.418 --> 00:46:02.877
if you've done.

1732
00:46:03.057 --> 00:46:06.339
bad things in your country and there's even pending litigation for it.

1733
00:46:06.359 --> 00:46:06.899
I don't care.

1734
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:07.459
Get out.

1735
00:46:07.780 --> 00:46:07.960
Right.

1736
00:46:09.180 --> 00:46:10.121
But the other stuff,

1737
00:46:12.502 --> 00:46:12.922
I'm like,

1738
00:46:13.523 --> 00:46:14.823
I'm full disclosure.

1739
00:46:15.184 --> 00:46:16.524
I'm a moderate right guy,

1740
00:46:16.644 --> 00:46:17.645
but also I'm Gen X.

1741
00:46:17.865 --> 00:46:18.746
Like I grew up with

1742
00:46:19.286 --> 00:46:21.487
Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill,

1743
00:46:21.507 --> 00:46:22.728
who was a speaker of the house.

1744
00:46:22.729 --> 00:46:25.789
So they fight all day and then get together at the White House at night and have beers.

1745
00:46:26.010 --> 00:46:26.170
Yeah.

1746
00:46:26.610 --> 00:46:27.450
And talk about stuff.

1747
00:46:27.670 --> 00:46:27.791
Yeah.

1748
00:46:28.391 --> 00:46:29.051
My,

1749
00:46:29.171 --> 00:46:29.431
you know,

1750
00:46:29.511 --> 00:46:30.432
and full disclosure,

1751
00:46:30.952 --> 00:46:32.153
my stepdaughter and my daughter.

1752
00:46:32.473 --> 00:46:34.314
They're posting anti-ice stuff,

1753
00:46:34.755 --> 00:46:34.995
you know,

1754
00:46:35.555 --> 00:46:36.976
on their Instagram stories.

1755
00:46:37.016 --> 00:46:37.396
And I'm like,

1756
00:46:38.137 --> 00:46:40.699
have you sourced out what you're sharing?

1757
00:46:40.819 --> 00:46:43.140
And a lot of the stuff you're putting out there is not true.

1758
00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:43.621
Yeah.

1759
00:46:43.661 --> 00:46:44.021
And so

1760
00:46:44.881 --> 00:46:46.222
I guess my question is,

1761
00:46:47.583 --> 00:46:49.525
it's either one way or another,

1762
00:46:50.425 --> 00:46:52.547
is what you're seeing online or in the news.

1763
00:46:52.607 --> 00:46:53.207
And it's not,

1764
00:46:53.267 --> 00:46:54.168
it can't be that,

1765
00:46:54.248 --> 00:46:54.928
it's not that way.

1766
00:46:54.988 --> 00:46:55.969
It just can't be that way.

1767
00:46:56.397 --> 00:46:56.637
You know,

1768
00:46:56.737 --> 00:46:59.839
I think that's the frustration that everybody's having right now.

1769
00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:00.860
And then so somebody,

1770
00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:02.842
someone like me coming from Canada,

1771
00:47:02.942 --> 00:47:07.525
where we're just used to getting the news and then moving to the United States.

1772
00:47:07.545 --> 00:47:08.606
And then really,

1773
00:47:08.706 --> 00:47:08.906
like,

1774
00:47:09.286 --> 00:47:13.609
I switch channels and it depends on which one I'm watching.

1775
00:47:13.749 --> 00:47:18.012
And it's just like that same piece of news is skewed in such a different manner.

1776
00:47:18.693 --> 00:47:24.757
And I would really consider myself to be like an independent person where I'm like socially more liberal because.

1777
00:47:25.305 --> 00:47:28.427
I really don't care what people do in their homes and their bedrooms.

1778
00:47:28.447 --> 00:47:31.329
I never have understood why people care so much.

1779
00:47:32.370 --> 00:47:32.910
But,

1780
00:47:32.911 --> 00:47:33.091
you know,

1781
00:47:33.171 --> 00:47:35.052
I think that it's one of those things where

1782
00:47:35.933 --> 00:47:46.140
I would like to think that the large majority of Americans fall in that middle line and would love to be able to see it come back somewhere in the middle as well.

1783
00:47:46.380 --> 00:47:46.740
And

1784
00:47:47.701 --> 00:47:51.784
I think that we went so far this way previously where,

1785
00:47:52.044 --> 00:47:52.284
you know,

1786
00:47:52.285 --> 00:47:53.545
the pendulum swung and we.

1787
00:47:53.725 --> 00:47:54.946
we went so far this way.

1788
00:47:55.747 --> 00:47:56.127
And

1789
00:47:56.968 --> 00:48:01.732
I think that if you have the ability to evaluate without any kind of bias,

1790
00:48:01.812 --> 00:48:07.978
you would notice that neither of those have worked out very well for us or are working out very well for us.

1791
00:48:08.278 --> 00:48:08.738
And so

1792
00:48:09.779 --> 00:48:10.540
I think that,

1793
00:48:11.541 --> 00:48:11.781
you know,

1794
00:48:11.861 --> 00:48:12.822
it's going to take,

1795
00:48:13.883 --> 00:48:14.163
I mean,

1796
00:48:14.203 --> 00:48:19.268
my personal opinion is I think we need someone who's not 80 years old,

1797
00:48:20.109 --> 00:48:20.369
you know?

1798
00:48:20.609 --> 00:48:22.590
I think someone who's just younger,

1799
00:48:22.770 --> 00:48:30.852
someone who's like just not pushing this envelope of like just pushing one side or the other or the extremism that we're seeing,

1800
00:48:31.312 --> 00:48:31.612
you know.

1801
00:48:31.852 --> 00:48:33.753
And I think that most

1802
00:48:34.213 --> 00:48:37.214
Americans would agree that they do want people to come here correctly,

1803
00:48:37.534 --> 00:48:44.216
that they do believe in legal immigration and that they would definitely support immigration reform.

1804
00:48:44.496 --> 00:48:44.736
You know,

1805
00:48:44.756 --> 00:48:46.736
I don't think anybody wants to open borders,

1806
00:48:46.816 --> 00:48:48.857
but I don't think anybody wants the.

1807
00:48:49.453 --> 00:48:49.693
you know,

1808
00:48:49.753 --> 00:48:53.915
individual who's been a law abiding citizen here for 20 years,

1809
00:48:53.996 --> 00:48:55.016
cleaning homes,

1810
00:48:56.237 --> 00:48:56.517
you know,

1811
00:48:56.757 --> 00:48:59.338
just and paying their dues,

1812
00:48:59.439 --> 00:49:02.900
getting picked up and held in a detention center for months either.

1813
00:49:03.661 --> 00:49:03.781
So

1814
00:49:05.142 --> 00:49:06.082
I'm hoping that,

1815
00:49:06.322 --> 00:49:06.562
you know,

1816
00:49:06.683 --> 00:49:10.845
what we see here in the near future is kind of a swing back to the middle.

1817
00:49:12.006 --> 00:49:12.526
I hope so.

1818
00:49:12.686 --> 00:49:13.166
I hope so,

1819
00:49:13.326 --> 00:49:13.526
too.

1820
00:49:13.586 --> 00:49:13.847
Man,

1821
00:49:14.707 --> 00:49:17.509
what scares me is that you've got,

1822
00:49:17.689 --> 00:49:17.989
I mean,

1823
00:49:18.585 --> 00:49:19.205
Trump is Trump.

1824
00:49:19.265 --> 00:49:20.046
He's going to do his thing,

1825
00:49:20.086 --> 00:49:20.226
man.

1826
00:49:20.227 --> 00:49:20.846
He doesn't give a shit.

1827
00:49:20.847 --> 00:49:21.687
He's just no filter.

1828
00:49:22.447 --> 00:49:22.707
This is,

1829
00:49:22.708 --> 00:49:22.947
you know,

1830
00:49:23.067 --> 00:49:24.048
lame duck candidate.

1831
00:49:24.148 --> 00:49:24.368
I mean,

1832
00:49:24.388 --> 00:49:24.989
or presidency.

1833
00:49:25.109 --> 00:49:25.929
He's done after this.

1834
00:49:26.469 --> 00:49:26.810
I mean,

1835
00:49:26.830 --> 00:49:27.710
he's,

1836
00:49:28.030 --> 00:49:28.310
you know,

1837
00:49:28.491 --> 00:49:29.951
he's 80-something years old.

1838
00:49:29.991 --> 00:49:30.652
So he's like,

1839
00:49:30.692 --> 00:49:31.892
what do I got to lose?

1840
00:49:31.893 --> 00:49:32.012
Yeah,

1841
00:49:32.013 --> 00:49:32.573
what do you got to lose?

1842
00:49:32.833 --> 00:49:33.333
And okay,

1843
00:49:33.453 --> 00:49:33.673
I mean,

1844
00:49:33.733 --> 00:49:34.094
whatever.

1845
00:49:34.474 --> 00:49:37.035
But the challenge I see,

1846
00:49:37.796 --> 00:49:38.016
I mean,

1847
00:49:38.176 --> 00:49:40.037
I've watched a political game for years.

1848
00:49:40.677 --> 00:49:44.178
The frontrunner right now in the Democratic Party is Gavin Newsom.

1849
00:49:44.538 --> 00:49:44.698
Yeah.

1850
00:49:44.998 --> 00:49:46.379
His state is a shit show.

1851
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:46.779
Yeah.

1852
00:49:47.059 --> 00:49:47.659
And yeah,

1853
00:49:47.779 --> 00:49:48.739
he looks great.

1854
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:49.239
Yeah.

1855
00:49:49.319 --> 00:49:51.240
And he says he knows exactly what to say.

1856
00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:51.660
Yeah.

1857
00:49:51.700 --> 00:49:54.901
But if you peel back the layers about what he's done,

1858
00:49:55.581 --> 00:49:56.822
there's nothing there.

1859
00:49:56.962 --> 00:49:59.262
And all the Democrats do is,

1860
00:49:59.822 --> 00:50:00.082
you know,

1861
00:50:00.183 --> 00:50:05.864
yell and scream and hold up stuff in Congress like they are right now and filibuster and all that stuff.

1862
00:50:05.964 --> 00:50:07.064
But hey,

1863
00:50:07.144 --> 00:50:07.665
Chuck Schumer,

1864
00:50:07.725 --> 00:50:08.625
instead of bitching.

1865
00:50:08.805 --> 00:50:09.005
Yeah.

1866
00:50:09.213 --> 00:50:11.394
Come up with something different.

1867
00:50:12.254 --> 00:50:14.655
Give us a platform that we can get our because there's,

1868
00:50:14.755 --> 00:50:15.075
I think,

1869
00:50:15.135 --> 00:50:15.815
so many people,

1870
00:50:15.995 --> 00:50:17.676
moderate or independent,

1871
00:50:18.196 --> 00:50:28.219
that would go to that if there was just something that made sense that wasn't pandering to political to PACs and the lobbyists and everything else going on.

1872
00:50:28.220 --> 00:50:28.839
It's awful.

1873
00:50:29.260 --> 00:50:29.640
Honestly,

1874
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:33.481
I think the issue is it would take

1875
00:50:34.449 --> 00:50:37.510
people actually speaking up against certain things on both sides.

1876
00:50:37.570 --> 00:50:38.251
You know what I mean?

1877
00:50:38.391 --> 00:50:40.492
And then most politicians are a bunch of pussies.

1878
00:50:40.552 --> 00:50:40.712
Like,

1879
00:50:40.732 --> 00:50:41.292
let's be real,

1880
00:50:41.472 --> 00:50:41.732
you know,

1881
00:50:41.932 --> 00:50:43.393
I'm not even sure if I can say that,

1882
00:50:43.473 --> 00:50:44.834
but you can,

1883
00:50:44.854 --> 00:50:45.154
you can.

1884
00:50:45.874 --> 00:50:45.994
So,

1885
00:50:46.715 --> 00:50:47.215
and it's just,

1886
00:50:47.255 --> 00:50:47.495
you know,

1887
00:50:47.515 --> 00:50:49.696
they basically just follow what they're,

1888
00:50:49.896 --> 00:50:50.876
they're told to do.

1889
00:50:51.317 --> 00:50:51.697
And

1890
00:50:52.177 --> 00:50:54.798
I was having this conversation with my boyfriend and I was like,

1891
00:50:55.298 --> 00:51:00.881
the whole thing with the Trump administration that just blows my mind is

1892
00:51:01.781 --> 00:51:02.822
I know some really,

1893
00:51:02.902 --> 00:51:04.742
really smart people that voted for him,

1894
00:51:05.103 --> 00:51:05.343
you know,

1895
00:51:06.143 --> 00:51:09.885
and my whole thing is just no problem.

1896
00:51:10.085 --> 00:51:10.745
You voted for him.

1897
00:51:10.785 --> 00:51:12.026
I completely understand why.

1898
00:51:12.086 --> 00:51:14.187
And they had very valid reasons for doing so.

1899
00:51:15.007 --> 00:51:18.869
But if you can see the current state of what we're dealing with and you can see,

1900
00:51:19.049 --> 00:51:19.289
you know,

1901
00:51:19.669 --> 00:51:20.289
the economy,

1902
00:51:20.469 --> 00:51:21.010
immigration,

1903
00:51:21.190 --> 00:51:22.330
everything that we're looking at,

1904
00:51:22.430 --> 00:51:23.571
and you're still like,

1905
00:51:24.091 --> 00:51:24.351
you know,

1906
00:51:25.572 --> 00:51:25.732
yeah,

1907
00:51:25.812 --> 00:51:27.452
he's the best president ever,

1908
00:51:27.753 --> 00:51:28.073
you know,

1909
00:51:28.333 --> 00:51:28.733
and like.

1910
00:51:29.473 --> 00:51:38.842
I just I have never been the type of person to just be able to follow someone blindly and just be a sheep,

1911
00:51:39.162 --> 00:51:39.443
you know,

1912
00:51:39.603 --> 00:51:47.430
and that's really and it's just so I'm seeing all these smart people that you would think have the ability to think for themselves because they have businesses.

1913
00:51:47.470 --> 00:51:53.797
They have all these different things going for them because a lot of people like to point to the fact that a lot of Trump supporters are like,

1914
00:51:53.798 --> 00:51:54.017
you know.

1915
00:51:54.521 --> 00:51:56.102
uneducated or this or that.

1916
00:51:56.202 --> 00:51:56.623
And I was like,

1917
00:51:56.624 --> 00:51:56.743
no,

1918
00:51:56.983 --> 00:51:59.425
I think it's about like there's a big variety in there.

1919
00:51:59.946 --> 00:52:00.566
So I'm just like,

1920
00:52:00.686 --> 00:52:10.054
I find it so hard to believe that these people are just so easily manipulated and just don't have the ability to think for themselves or at least say,

1921
00:52:10.614 --> 00:52:10.734
hey,

1922
00:52:10.855 --> 00:52:12.216
I voted for this,

1923
00:52:12.556 --> 00:52:14.578
but what's happening here,

1924
00:52:14.758 --> 00:52:15.599
I don't agree with.

1925
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:16.379
You know,

1926
00:52:16.499 --> 00:52:19.181
it's like it's almost like an all or nothing thing is what I'm trying.

1927
00:52:19.262 --> 00:52:20.422
I think a lot of people are tired.

1928
00:52:20.803 --> 00:52:20.983
Yeah.

1929
00:52:21.423 --> 00:52:23.285
And keep in mind

1930
00:52:24.605 --> 00:52:26.646
At least 50 Muscat did a thing with X.

1931
00:52:26.706 --> 00:52:28.827
They figured out that when he bought X,

1932
00:52:30.048 --> 00:52:31.689
when it was Twitter and he turned it into X,

1933
00:52:32.209 --> 00:52:32.449
50%

1934
00:52:33.230 --> 00:52:35.051
of the comments were bots.

1935
00:52:35.691 --> 00:52:36.312
Yeah.

1936
00:52:36.313 --> 00:52:36.472
Right?

1937
00:52:36.952 --> 00:52:37.532
So you've got

1938
00:52:38.713 --> 00:52:39.313
North Korea,

1939
00:52:39.573 --> 00:52:39.894
Russia,

1940
00:52:40.134 --> 00:52:40.514
China,

1941
00:52:41.194 --> 00:52:44.556
bots coming in and controlling the social narrative.

1942
00:52:44.557 --> 00:52:45.537
Yeah.

1943
00:52:45.557 --> 00:52:46.998
I know for a fact as a

1944
00:52:47.558 --> 00:52:50.880
30-year person in social media and been posting on TikTok for years,

1945
00:52:51.380 --> 00:52:52.801
they control the social narrative.

1946
00:52:52.941 --> 00:52:53.061
Yeah.

1947
00:52:53.301 --> 00:53:00.886
There is pieces of content that I will post on TikTok that will get flagged and doesn't get flagged on any other platform.

1948
00:53:01.026 --> 00:53:01.206
Yeah.

1949
00:53:02.327 --> 00:53:02.727
Fuck you,

1950
00:53:02.867 --> 00:53:03.327
TikTok.

1951
00:53:03.367 --> 00:53:05.469
And it's even worse now that we bought it,

1952
00:53:05.489 --> 00:53:09.611
which there is still coding in there that the Chinese are looking at everything still.

1953
00:53:10.072 --> 00:53:10.192
Yeah.

1954
00:53:10.193 --> 00:53:12.073
Just because it's now it's not on short.

1955
00:53:12.253 --> 00:53:18.497
It's still but that's controlling the social narrative is so many people are

1956
00:53:19.301 --> 00:53:20.182
Getting their news,

1957
00:53:21.162 --> 00:53:21.402
you know,

1958
00:53:21.442 --> 00:53:22.623
in these quick little bites.

1959
00:53:22.843 --> 00:53:23.003
Yeah.

1960
00:53:23.303 --> 00:53:24.864
And a lot of it's not even real.

1961
00:53:25.304 --> 00:53:29.787
And that scares the shit out of me and scares the shit out of me for my kids.

1962
00:53:30.027 --> 00:53:30.207
Yeah.

1963
00:53:30.387 --> 00:53:34.569
That that's where they're getting their news from and they're sharing it and doubling down on that content.

1964
00:53:35.490 --> 00:53:35.650
Yeah.

1965
00:53:35.830 --> 00:53:38.832
And because most kids are not really watching the news.

1966
00:53:38.833 --> 00:53:38.912
No.

1967
00:53:38.932 --> 00:53:39.392
But honestly,

1968
00:53:39.432 --> 00:53:42.994
I don't know if I really support watching the news because half of that is not even.

1969
00:53:42.995 --> 00:53:43.634
It's not the CBC.

1970
00:53:44.195 --> 00:53:45.155
It's really just,

1971
00:53:45.395 --> 00:53:46.236
it's opinionated,

1972
00:53:46.376 --> 00:53:46.676
you know.

1973
00:53:47.256 --> 00:53:47.756
They're both.

1974
00:53:48.137 --> 00:53:48.617
I can't.

1975
00:53:48.877 --> 00:53:50.338
I can't take either of them anymore.

1976
00:53:50.478 --> 00:53:50.998
No.

1977
00:53:51.898 --> 00:53:54.099
Both of them are just way it's way too much.

1978
00:53:54.219 --> 00:53:54.379
Yeah.

1979
00:53:54.659 --> 00:53:54.1000
And so

1980
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:57.221
I just try to filter through it.

1981
00:53:57.621 --> 00:53:57.901
I mean

1982
00:53:58.241 --> 00:54:04.123
I have friends in politics that I talk to them a lot about what's going on and confidentially.

1983
00:54:04.224 --> 00:54:04.564
Just like,

1984
00:54:04.584 --> 00:54:04.724
hey,

1985
00:54:04.764 --> 00:54:05.384
what about this?

1986
00:54:05.444 --> 00:54:06.484
And is this really happening?

1987
00:54:06.485 --> 00:54:07.185
And what about this?

1988
00:54:07.225 --> 00:54:09.846
And I get decent stuff that way.

1989
00:54:09.986 --> 00:54:15.948
But to watch I mean Fox is always breaking news and the crawl in red.

1990
00:54:16.028 --> 00:54:16.289
You're like,

1991
00:54:16.369 --> 00:54:16.489
oh,

1992
00:54:16.509 --> 00:54:17.049
come on.

1993
00:54:17.729 --> 00:54:20.630
And MSNBC is just as bad on the other side.

1994
00:54:20.810 --> 00:54:21.951
And again,

1995
00:54:21.971 --> 00:54:22.911
as someone that's older,

1996
00:54:23.111 --> 00:54:23.851
that's been through,

1997
00:54:24.151 --> 00:54:25.652
Trump is not the best president we ever had.

1998
00:54:27.172 --> 00:54:27.592
First of all,

1999
00:54:27.632 --> 00:54:28.973
if you were around during the

2000
00:54:29.313 --> 00:54:30.473
80s and saw what Reagan did,

2001
00:54:30.553 --> 00:54:32.034
even though a little out there,

2002
00:54:32.035 --> 00:54:32.614
a little goofy,

2003
00:54:32.634 --> 00:54:33.914
an actor from California.

2004
00:54:33.995 --> 00:54:39.516
But the stuff he got done and to tear down the Berlin Wall and Glasnost and Gorbachev,

2005
00:54:40.137 --> 00:54:41.077
I saw all of that.

2006
00:54:41.237 --> 00:54:41.417
Yeah.

2007
00:54:41.982 --> 00:54:43.082
And I was in high school then.

2008
00:54:43.122 --> 00:54:43.423
And I'm like,

2009
00:54:43.443 --> 00:54:43.563
oh,

2010
00:54:43.603 --> 00:54:43.943
my God,

2011
00:54:43.944 --> 00:54:45.403
the world is changing right in front of me.

2012
00:54:45.423 --> 00:54:46.364
I remember that.

2013
00:54:46.424 --> 00:54:46.624
Like,

2014
00:54:47.064 --> 00:54:49.005
I would say he's a better president than Trump.

2015
00:54:49.945 --> 00:54:55.408
The Trump challenge is that we are $37 trillion in debt.

2016
00:54:56.208 --> 00:54:57.048
And adding to it.

2017
00:54:57.049 --> 00:54:57.829
And adding to it.

2018
00:54:58.129 --> 00:54:58.329
Yeah.

2019
00:54:58.330 --> 00:54:58.509
Right?

2020
00:54:59.149 --> 00:55:00.250
And so,

2021
00:55:00.550 --> 00:55:00.710
like,

2022
00:55:00.711 --> 00:55:01.550
the whole tariff thing,

2023
00:55:01.590 --> 00:55:01.730
like,

2024
00:55:01.750 --> 00:55:02.270
he's got to,

2025
00:55:02.371 --> 00:55:03.611
he's thinking out of the box.

2026
00:55:03.871 --> 00:55:04.031
Yeah.

2027
00:55:04.151 --> 00:55:05.012
Is what he's doing.

2028
00:55:05.592 --> 00:55:06.512
I'm all for that.

2029
00:55:06.992 --> 00:55:07.133
Yeah.

2030
00:55:07.613 --> 00:55:08.293
But it's like,

2031
00:55:09.253 --> 00:55:10.554
people hate change.

2032
00:55:11.858 --> 00:55:12.298
People,

2033
00:55:12.819 --> 00:55:13.099
Misha,

2034
00:55:13.379 --> 00:55:14.740
hate fucking change.

2035
00:55:15.241 --> 00:55:16.201
They can't stand it.

2036
00:55:16.381 --> 00:55:16.902
And it's like,

2037
00:55:16.922 --> 00:55:17.042
no,

2038
00:55:17.262 --> 00:55:18.303
everything will be great.

2039
00:55:18.463 --> 00:55:19.383
But you don't understand.

2040
00:55:19.624 --> 00:55:20.845
If we don't take care of this,

2041
00:55:20.925 --> 00:55:21.145
like,

2042
00:55:21.605 --> 00:55:23.186
Social Security is not going to be around.

2043
00:55:23.346 --> 00:55:23.486
Yeah.

2044
00:55:24.187 --> 00:55:24.347
Like,

2045
00:55:25.528 --> 00:55:26.589
I ache for my kids.

2046
00:55:26.729 --> 00:55:26.949
Right.

2047
00:55:27.169 --> 00:55:28.810
Because I know it's going to be around for me in,

2048
00:55:28.850 --> 00:55:29.090
you know,

2049
00:55:29.110 --> 00:55:29.711
10 more,

2050
00:55:29.971 --> 00:55:30.792
15 more years.

2051
00:55:30.952 --> 00:55:31.532
Yeah.

2052
00:55:31.552 --> 00:55:33.153
At least it's not going to be the way it is now.

2053
00:55:33.333 --> 00:55:33.473
Yeah.

2054
00:55:33.634 --> 00:55:33.774
Like,

2055
00:55:34.314 --> 00:55:35.315
my dad gets a check.

2056
00:55:36.295 --> 00:55:36.616
And so,

2057
00:55:36.776 --> 00:55:36.976
like,

2058
00:55:37.116 --> 00:55:37.696
take that money,

2059
00:55:37.857 --> 00:55:39.718
put it in S&P 500 growth fund.

2060
00:55:40.318 --> 00:55:41.459
and you get a much better return.

2061
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.880
Yeah,

2062
00:55:43.900 --> 00:55:45.381
I think the crazy part is,

2063
00:55:45.461 --> 00:55:47.261
is like I'm all for change.

2064
00:55:47.381 --> 00:55:48.842
And if the tariffs worked,

2065
00:55:49.002 --> 00:55:50.623
then I'm all for that as well.

2066
00:55:51.103 --> 00:55:52.324
It's just like on one hand,

2067
00:55:52.364 --> 00:55:53.404
we have the tariffs.

2068
00:55:53.504 --> 00:55:54.725
And then on the other hand,

2069
00:55:54.825 --> 00:55:55.405
we have

2070
00:55:55.925 --> 00:55:59.607
Homeland Security spending $200 million on an ad campaign.

2071
00:56:00.167 --> 00:56:00.908
And then we have...

2072
00:56:00.909 --> 00:56:01.008
Oh,

2073
00:56:01.009 --> 00:56:01.368
Christy.

2074
00:56:01.388 --> 00:56:02.188
Yeah.

2075
00:56:02.268 --> 00:56:02.388
Oh,

2076
00:56:02.568 --> 00:56:02.689
no.

2077
00:56:03.109 --> 00:56:04.309
And then we have,

2078
00:56:05.090 --> 00:56:05.410
you know...

2079
00:56:06.234 --> 00:56:10.877
Good old Pete now asking for 200 million to kill bad guys.

2080
00:56:11.497 --> 00:56:12.458
And I'm just like,

2081
00:56:12.638 --> 00:56:13.238
it's just,

2082
00:56:13.379 --> 00:56:13.619
you know,

2083
00:56:13.759 --> 00:56:21.344
so what exactly what difference are we seeing here where we're just adding like billions and billions worth of debt over here?

2084
00:56:22.104 --> 00:56:26.467
And I think the reason why people voted for Trump is because they did want change.

2085
00:56:26.507 --> 00:56:30.149
I think people got very tired of the typical old politician.

2086
00:56:31.070 --> 00:56:31.310
Just,

2087
00:56:31.390 --> 00:56:31.630
you know.

2088
00:56:31.850 --> 00:56:33.371
telling them what they wanted to hear.

2089
00:56:33.611 --> 00:56:38.133
And I think why people liked him so much is because he felt like someone who is very direct,

2090
00:56:38.634 --> 00:56:39.694
very unfiltered.

2091
00:56:41.495 --> 00:56:41.795
And,

2092
00:56:41.975 --> 00:56:42.236
you know,

2093
00:56:42.296 --> 00:56:44.637
I think that like spoke to a lot of people,

2094
00:56:44.717 --> 00:56:46.418
but I think he also said,

2095
00:56:46.578 --> 00:56:46.718
hey,

2096
00:56:46.778 --> 00:56:47.158
we're not,

2097
00:56:47.478 --> 00:56:48.479
we're not going to war.

2098
00:56:48.559 --> 00:56:49.660
We're not doing these things.

2099
00:56:49.740 --> 00:56:49.900
And,

2100
00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:50.640
you know,

2101
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.902
we're only going to be picking up the people with criminal records.

2102
00:56:54.903 --> 00:57:01.466
So it's like everything that was promised is now completely turned into something else.

2103
00:57:01.978 --> 00:57:09.741
So I just appreciate when people have the ability to say that they were wrong about certain things.

2104
00:57:09.921 --> 00:57:11.002
I very much am.

2105
00:57:11.282 --> 00:57:12.542
I am far from perfect.

2106
00:57:12.602 --> 00:57:14.363
So if I'm ever wrong about something,

2107
00:57:14.423 --> 00:57:14.843
I'd be like,

2108
00:57:14.883 --> 00:57:15.003
oh,

2109
00:57:15.023 --> 00:57:16.324
I was thinking it was going to go this way,

2110
00:57:16.444 --> 00:57:17.304
but it went that way.

2111
00:57:17.865 --> 00:57:18.525
Things happen,

2112
00:57:18.685 --> 00:57:19.005
you know.

2113
00:57:19.385 --> 00:57:26.108
But I think it's just more so what I find very fascinating is the justification.

2114
00:57:26.388 --> 00:57:30.810
Like people will find a way to justify anything and everything.

2115
00:57:31.742 --> 00:57:36.446
They will find a way to justify every aspect of the Epstein stuff,

2116
00:57:36.846 --> 00:57:39.087
which is just that's a whole other topic.

2117
00:57:39.268 --> 00:57:40.749
We would be here for another hour.

2118
00:57:40.869 --> 00:57:44.551
That could be part two of our talk.

2119
00:57:44.552 --> 00:57:45.051
So that's all.

2120
00:57:45.111 --> 00:57:46.693
It's just like it's a very like for me,

2121
00:57:46.933 --> 00:57:50.435
it's like almost like a psychology type of study.

2122
00:57:50.675 --> 00:57:50.995
You know,

2123
00:57:51.096 --> 00:57:56.799
I feel like there's going to be doctors that are going to be studying this in the future and just being like,

2124
00:57:56.839 --> 00:57:57.080
you know,

2125
00:57:57.240 --> 00:58:00.362
it's just almost like how do you just get people to follow you?

2126
00:58:01.218 --> 00:58:27.620
um blindly and not ask very many questions or it's crazy because it's and then the left takes it and calls him hitler well i don't think he's killed any jews as far as i'm concerned so let's not go there and it's just the extremism right it's left or right and it's again it's for fucking clicks man yeah and you just try to put all this stuff out there on when i first started doing this full disclosure i was guilty of it i would find the most sensational shit somebody was saying i I had my team go,

2127
00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:28.720
here's a time stance,

2128
00:58:29.001 --> 00:58:29.381
do this.

2129
00:58:29.901 --> 00:58:30.582
Now I'm more like.

2130
00:58:30.902 --> 00:58:32.003
let's just have a conversation.

2131
00:58:32.283 --> 00:58:33.825
I don't care if the clips go viral anymore.

2132
00:58:33.905 --> 00:58:34.465
I don't care.

2133
00:58:34.826 --> 00:58:38.609
I care more about having an open and honest conversation with someone that I like.

2134
00:58:38.949 --> 00:58:39.149
Right.

2135
00:58:39.330 --> 00:58:44.134
And that I hopefully earn the right that they're comfortable enough to let their guard down.

2136
00:58:44.394 --> 00:58:44.554
Yeah.

2137
00:58:44.774 --> 00:58:46.256
And like we do it now.

2138
00:58:46.336 --> 00:58:47.937
It happened within the first five minutes with us.

2139
00:58:47.997 --> 00:58:49.198
Like you don't even know the cameras are here,

2140
00:58:49.238 --> 00:58:49.939
lights and all that shit.

2141
00:58:49.979 --> 00:58:52.081
Like you can say someone's a pussy.

2142
00:58:52.161 --> 00:58:52.561
It's okay.

2143
00:58:53.442 --> 00:58:54.043
Because guess what,

2144
00:58:54.083 --> 00:58:54.483
my love?

2145
00:58:55.404 --> 00:58:56.144
I guarantee you,

2146
00:58:56.625 --> 00:58:57.646
you'll get more people.

2147
00:58:58.026 --> 00:59:01.469
looking into who you are and what you do because you're standing for something.

2148
00:59:01.749 --> 00:59:01.889
Yeah.

2149
00:59:02.409 --> 00:59:04.171
And that's the one thing I've never been afraid to do.

2150
00:59:04.491 --> 00:59:05.011
And it's just,

2151
00:59:05.071 --> 00:59:05.332
you know,

2152
00:59:05.572 --> 00:59:05.692
I,

2153
00:59:06.092 --> 00:59:07.073
I feel like at this point,

2154
00:59:07.093 --> 00:59:08.114
as much as I obviously,

2155
00:59:08.354 --> 00:59:08.634
you know,

2156
00:59:09.535 --> 00:59:13.097
would hope anybody and everybody would want to come to me for representation.

2157
00:59:13.197 --> 00:59:13.518
It's just,

2158
00:59:13.578 --> 00:59:17.961
I am very stern on what I believe in and what I believe is right and wrong.

2159
00:59:18.081 --> 00:59:18.241
And,

2160
00:59:18.702 --> 00:59:18.942
you know,

2161
00:59:19.022 --> 00:59:24.526
I am very fortunate for my ability to be able to see things from the middle.

2162
00:59:25.018 --> 00:59:27.960
And I always say every time that there is an election,

2163
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:28.260
I'm like,

2164
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:28.500
all right,

2165
00:59:28.520 --> 00:59:29.060
convince me.

2166
00:59:30.601 --> 00:59:31.682
Why should I vote for you?

2167
00:59:32.242 --> 00:59:33.943
Which way am I voting and why?

2168
00:59:34.183 --> 00:59:34.484
And,

2169
00:59:34.544 --> 00:59:34.804
you know,

2170
00:59:34.904 --> 00:59:35.444
persuade me.

2171
00:59:35.824 --> 00:59:36.745
Would you ever run for office?

2172
00:59:37.660 --> 00:59:38.860
I've been told I should.

2173
00:59:40.321 --> 00:59:41.841
I don't see that in my future,

2174
00:59:41.961 --> 00:59:42.962
but I would love,

2175
00:59:43.182 --> 00:59:50.604
my overall goal in life is to really go into something more human rights based in the future.

2176
00:59:51.084 --> 00:59:54.565
I would love like an international human rights law type situation,

2177
00:59:54.605 --> 00:59:59.626
whether I introduce that into my firm or however I choose to do it.

2178
01:00:00.066 --> 01:00:02.387
I'm just very passionate about that.

2179
01:00:03.607 --> 01:00:06.188
I want to ask you two more questions and then we'll wrap it up.

2180
01:00:06.768 --> 01:00:07.829
when did you leave Toronto?

2181
01:00:08.569 --> 01:00:09.890
I left in 2011.

2182
01:00:10.870 --> 01:00:10.990
So

2183
01:00:11.350 --> 01:00:13.131
I had graduated

2184
01:00:13.471 --> 01:00:14.232
York University.

2185
01:00:14.272 --> 01:00:15.472
I did my undergrad there.

2186
01:00:15.732 --> 01:00:16.553
And then

2187
01:00:17.073 --> 01:00:18.074
I worked for a little bit,

2188
01:00:18.134 --> 01:00:18.294
did,

2189
01:00:18.314 --> 01:00:18.574
you know,

2190
01:00:18.634 --> 01:00:18.794
two,

2191
01:00:18.834 --> 01:00:21.075
three jobs at a time,

2192
01:00:21.355 --> 01:00:22.776
saved up money for law school.

2193
01:00:22.956 --> 01:00:24.416
And then I packed up my car,

2194
01:00:24.577 --> 01:00:26.357
moved to Michigan and,

2195
01:00:27.318 --> 01:00:27.578
you know,

2196
01:00:27.579 --> 01:00:30.439
whatever would fit in there and basically went to law school.

2197
01:00:31.420 --> 01:00:31.760
And then.

2198
01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:33.802
Once I graduated law school,

2199
01:00:33.822 --> 01:00:35.063
I did the exact same thing,

2200
01:00:35.163 --> 01:00:38.325
packed up my car with whatever would fit and moved to Las Vegas.

2201
01:00:38.425 --> 01:00:39.126
And moved to Vegas.

2202
01:00:39.266 --> 01:00:39.406
Yeah.

2203
01:00:39.706 --> 01:00:41.508
I fell in love for the first time.

2204
01:00:41.548 --> 01:00:44.651
I was 18 years old at the Sundowner on Lundy's Lane.

2205
01:00:45.071 --> 01:00:45.331
Okay.

2206
01:00:45.491 --> 01:00:46.792
In Niagara Falls in Florida.

2207
01:00:46.932 --> 01:00:48.454
It was just the most wonderful place ever.

2208
01:00:48.674 --> 01:00:48.974
I know.

2209
01:00:49.154 --> 01:00:50.155
Niagara Falls is definitely.

2210
01:00:50.156 --> 01:00:52.177
It was the best strip joint.

2211
01:00:52.517 --> 01:00:54.058
And I've been to a strip joint now in 25 years.

2212
01:00:54.098 --> 01:00:55.640
But that was like back then it was.

2213
01:00:56.180 --> 01:00:58.001
I lived I'm from western New York.

2214
01:00:58.121 --> 01:00:58.321
Yeah.

2215
01:00:58.322 --> 01:00:59.301
So south of Rochester.

2216
01:00:59.481 --> 01:00:59.921
Canandaigua,

2217
01:00:59.961 --> 01:01:00.261
New York.

2218
01:01:00.381 --> 01:01:01.241
Shout out to Canandaigua.

2219
01:01:01.461 --> 01:01:08.123
And it was a rite of passage when you turned 18 because the drinking age in Canada is 18.

2220
01:01:08.463 --> 01:01:09.724
So we'd all go up.

2221
01:01:09.804 --> 01:01:12.785
And back then like the exchange rate was like 67%,

2222
01:01:12.925 --> 01:01:13.805
68%.

2223
01:01:13.885 --> 01:01:14.145
Yeah.

2224
01:01:14.265 --> 01:01:16.205
So you'd get those brown $100 bills.

2225
01:01:16.926 --> 01:01:20.807
And you'd go through duty-free and that was always the best place for the exchange.

2226
01:01:21.067 --> 01:01:24.408
And we'd go to the Sundowner and the best beer ever,

2227
01:01:24.528 --> 01:01:25.068
Bredour.

2228
01:01:25.536 --> 01:01:26.577
Molson Triple X.

2229
01:01:26.677 --> 01:01:27.677
Or it's Canadian beer.

2230
01:01:28.358 --> 01:01:32.780
I used to go up there and apologize for Coors Light.

2231
01:01:34.001 --> 01:01:34.842
So like the bouncers,

2232
01:01:34.862 --> 01:01:35.922
they'd laugh their asses off.

2233
01:01:35.942 --> 01:01:36.282
I'm like,

2234
01:01:36.283 --> 01:01:37.363
I love you guys.

2235
01:01:37.383 --> 01:01:38.764
I'm so sorry for Coors Light.

2236
01:01:39.624 --> 01:01:41.726
But it was magical.

2237
01:01:43.327 --> 01:01:44.387
I think Canada is

2238
01:01:44.908 --> 01:01:46.388
I mean it's got so many fun parts.

2239
01:01:46.428 --> 01:01:48.410
But like especially if you're somewhere close to the border,

2240
01:01:48.630 --> 01:01:50.991
people tell me all the time like if they live in Detroit or

2241
01:01:51.411 --> 01:01:52.112
Buffalo, they

2242
01:01:52.572 --> 01:01:55.074
um so legal drinking age in ontario is 19

2243
01:01:55.555 --> 01:02:20.396
18 in quebec but like you're able to you know go to strip clubs clubs all of it and gorgeous and toronto is one of the cleanest cities i mean i don't know how it is now but when i used to go no it's still yeah good food we used to go up there super safe it's extremely safe we'd go up to go to the sky dome yeah um because the yankees okay a bunch of us were yankee fans we'd get great seats yeah drink great beer i remember they had carpeting.

2244
01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:21.561
Like almost like the entire,

2245
01:02:21.881 --> 01:02:22.581
it's so clean.

2246
01:02:23.042 --> 01:02:24.523
A lot of the common area had carpeting,

2247
01:02:24.543 --> 01:02:25.183
not concrete.

2248
01:02:25.184 --> 01:02:25.444
I was like,

2249
01:02:25.864 --> 01:02:26.524
go Canada.

2250
01:02:27.005 --> 01:02:27.145
Yeah,

2251
01:02:27.225 --> 01:02:28.005
it's still very,

2252
01:02:28.486 --> 01:02:29.266
very clean,

2253
01:02:29.506 --> 01:02:30.507
very safe.

2254
01:02:30.508 --> 01:02:30.967
You can walk,

2255
01:02:31.148 --> 01:02:32.569
like I could walk around there.

2256
01:02:32.589 --> 01:02:33.469
I always compare

2257
01:02:34.050 --> 01:02:35.951
Toronto to a safer,

2258
01:02:36.011 --> 01:02:38.253
cleaner version of New York City.

2259
01:02:39.073 --> 01:02:39.333
Just,

2260
01:02:39.434 --> 01:02:39.674
you know,

2261
01:02:39.675 --> 01:02:40.755
on a smaller scale.

2262
01:02:41.195 --> 01:02:41.335
Yeah,

2263
01:02:41.475 --> 01:02:44.737
it's just obviously incredibly expensive to live.

2264
01:02:44.817 --> 01:02:46.178
It's very overcrowded.

2265
01:02:46.258 --> 01:02:48.200
So if you enjoy waiting in traffic.

2266
01:02:49.436 --> 01:02:50.336
If that's your jam,

2267
01:02:50.616 --> 01:02:51.677
then so.

2268
01:02:51.997 --> 01:02:52.117
No,

2269
01:02:52.377 --> 01:02:52.497
no.

2270
01:02:52.537 --> 01:02:53.877
It obviously has its cons.

2271
01:02:54.158 --> 01:02:54.578
But I just,

2272
01:02:54.858 --> 01:02:56.518
I fell in love for the first time ever with the girls.

2273
01:02:56.558 --> 01:02:57.318
I love visiting.

2274
01:02:57.418 --> 01:02:59.159
So it's always going to be one of my.

2275
01:02:59.160 --> 01:02:59.579
Well said.

2276
01:02:59.719 --> 01:02:59.959
Yeah.

2277
01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:00.499
I say all the time,

2278
01:03:00.539 --> 01:03:01.480
great place to visit.

2279
01:03:02.600 --> 01:03:03.600
And then

2280
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:05.241
I used to say great place to visit,

2281
01:03:05.321 --> 01:03:06.081
wouldn't want to live there.

2282
01:03:06.082 --> 01:03:08.062
But all I got to say now is great place to visit.

2283
01:03:08.262 --> 01:03:08.442
Yeah.

2284
01:03:08.642 --> 01:03:09.002
Full stop.

2285
01:03:09.502 --> 01:03:09.842
Yeah,

2286
01:03:09.843 --> 01:03:10.162
exactly.

2287
01:03:10.163 --> 01:03:11.683
And Toronto is a wonderful place to visit.

2288
01:03:11.843 --> 01:03:13.483
Go during the spring,

2289
01:03:13.683 --> 01:03:13.963
summer,

2290
01:03:14.043 --> 01:03:14.624
or fall.

2291
01:03:15.344 --> 01:03:16.104
Winters can get.

2292
01:03:17.145 --> 01:03:17.585
A little brutal.

2293
01:03:17.586 --> 01:03:17.985
I remember back,

2294
01:03:17.986 --> 01:03:20.947
they used to have a ferry that would go back and forth from Rochester to Toronto.

2295
01:03:21.207 --> 01:03:22.228
And it was called the Fast Ferry.

2296
01:03:22.548 --> 01:03:23.489
I don't know if they still have that.

2297
01:03:23.490 --> 01:03:23.529
No,

2298
01:03:23.530 --> 01:03:23.769
it's gone.

2299
01:03:23.770 --> 01:03:23.829
Oh,

2300
01:03:23.830 --> 01:03:24.069
gone.

2301
01:03:24.070 --> 01:03:25.110
It lasted for like two years.

2302
01:03:25.710 --> 01:03:26.971
I was one of the rare people.

2303
01:03:27.452 --> 01:03:28.392
My girlfriend at the time,

2304
01:03:28.472 --> 01:03:28.993
we went to

2305
01:03:29.793 --> 01:03:32.255
Toronto for a long weekend and took the Fast Ferry.

2306
01:03:32.275 --> 01:03:32.935
It was hilarious.

2307
01:03:33.275 --> 01:03:33.896
It went across Lake Ontario.

2308
01:03:33.897 --> 01:03:34.496
That's actually really cool.

2309
01:03:34.497 --> 01:03:36.838
You're a part of history.

2310
01:03:36.839 --> 01:03:37.378
I didn't even know that existed.

2311
01:03:37.379 --> 01:03:38.179
I'm a part of history.

2312
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:38.819
Please,

2313
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:39.500
please.

2314
01:03:39.520 --> 01:03:39.740
All right.

2315
01:03:39.741 --> 01:03:40.580
I have one last question.

2316
01:03:40.861 --> 01:03:41.661
I even wrote this down.

2317
01:03:41.662 --> 01:03:42.282
Sure.

2318
01:03:42.283 --> 01:03:43.803
Your Wayne Dyer quote is,

2319
01:03:44.143 --> 01:03:45.724
if you change the way you look at things.

2320
01:03:46.092 --> 01:03:47.693
The things you look at change.

2321
01:03:48.053 --> 01:03:48.173
Yeah.

2322
01:03:48.373 --> 01:03:52.674
Tell me about the moment in your life when that actually became true for you.

2323
01:03:53.094 --> 01:03:53.834
Not in theory,

2324
01:03:54.135 --> 01:03:55.035
but the real moment.

2325
01:03:57.215 --> 01:03:57.476
You know,

2326
01:03:57.656 --> 01:03:58.976
I feel like for me,

2327
01:03:59.936 --> 01:04:05.758
I have always been blessed with an ability to really look at things from a different type of perspective.

2328
01:04:05.778 --> 01:04:06.218
Like really,

2329
01:04:06.358 --> 01:04:06.598
you know,

2330
01:04:06.618 --> 01:04:09.619
that saying when it's like put yourself in someone else's shoes.

2331
01:04:10.900 --> 01:04:11.780
That's been my.

2332
01:04:12.080 --> 01:04:12.860
whole life for me.

2333
01:04:13.160 --> 01:04:13.721
It's just like,

2334
01:04:13.761 --> 01:04:23.345
I'm always able to place myself in someone else's shoes and view their situation or their perspective or what they're going through from,

2335
01:04:23.565 --> 01:04:23.845
you know,

2336
01:04:24.905 --> 01:04:26.966
just basically like I can relate to it.

2337
01:04:26.967 --> 01:04:28.087
I can understand it.

2338
01:04:28.187 --> 01:04:38.311
So that was actually one of the reasons why I went to law school was just really like the ability to understand people and then be able to help them from that perspective as well.

2339
01:04:38.312 --> 01:04:38.791
Because,

2340
01:04:38.851 --> 01:04:39.091
you know,

2341
01:04:39.131 --> 01:04:39.611
of course,

2342
01:04:39.731 --> 01:04:41.052
everybody does it from.

2343
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:46.222
financial perspective and I'm not going to complain if my bills are getting paid,

2344
01:04:46.322 --> 01:04:46.582
but

2345
01:04:47.262 --> 01:04:50.904
I really wanted to be able to help people on a larger scale.

2346
01:04:51.144 --> 01:04:51.684
And I was like,

2347
01:04:51.724 --> 01:04:52.724
how do I do that?

2348
01:04:52.965 --> 01:04:53.305
And

2349
01:04:53.745 --> 01:04:55.285
I, and listen,

2350
01:04:55.446 --> 01:04:57.346
sometimes it's my biggest strength.

2351
01:04:57.366 --> 01:05:03.069
And then other times it's my biggest weakness because I am also that person who will be scrolling on TikTok.

2352
01:05:03.089 --> 01:05:05.350
And then I come across like a sad video and I'm like,

2353
01:05:05.370 --> 01:05:05.930
oh my God.

2354
01:05:07.871 --> 01:05:07.991
So

2355
01:05:08.491 --> 01:05:08.771
I don't,

2356
01:05:09.271 --> 01:05:09.511
you know,

2357
01:05:09.691 --> 01:05:10.192
I'm very,

2358
01:05:10.632 --> 01:05:10.992
um,

2359
01:05:11.372 --> 01:05:13.293
grateful on a daily basis.

2360
01:05:15.194 --> 01:05:18.975
I wake up very grateful for little things.

2361
01:05:19.215 --> 01:05:19.515
Today,

2362
01:05:19.715 --> 01:05:22.376
I was outside with my dog just watching the sunrise.

2363
01:05:22.777 --> 01:05:24.117
I take little things in.

2364
01:05:25.878 --> 01:05:26.178
For me,

2365
01:05:26.378 --> 01:05:32.701
I don't really think that there's been a situation that has really changed my perspective on anything or made me view things differently.

2366
01:05:33.281 --> 01:05:40.964
I think I'm very blessed to have been born with that and probably instilled in me from my parents as well of just.

2367
01:05:41.836 --> 01:05:45.419
looking at everyone and treating everybody with like a certain level of respect.

2368
01:05:45.439 --> 01:05:47.460
And it doesn't matter how much money someone makes,

2369
01:05:47.500 --> 01:05:48.941
doesn't matter what their race is,

2370
01:05:48.961 --> 01:05:49.962
their religion is.

2371
01:05:50.082 --> 01:05:50.202
And,

2372
01:05:50.442 --> 01:05:50.942
you know,

2373
01:05:50.962 --> 01:05:55.785
my house was always open to everyone and I've kind of carried that on myself.

2374
01:05:55.886 --> 01:05:56.006
So.

2375
01:05:56.486 --> 01:05:58.207
And your daughter will benefit from that.

2376
01:05:58.347 --> 01:05:58.467
Yeah.

2377
01:05:58.567 --> 01:05:59.648
Seeing how you treat people,

2378
01:05:59.728 --> 01:06:00.969
she'll treat people the same way.

2379
01:06:01.149 --> 01:06:01.309
Yeah,

2380
01:06:01.469 --> 01:06:01.930
exactly.

2381
01:06:02.450 --> 01:06:06.112
And I instill that in her and you can already tell that she's,

2382
01:06:06.213 --> 01:06:06.933
you know,

2383
01:06:07.233 --> 01:06:09.315
she's definitely turning into a little mini me.

2384
01:06:09.795 --> 01:06:09.915
So.

2385
01:06:10.676 --> 01:06:11.196
Who knows?

2386
01:06:11.516 --> 01:06:12.337
There's room on the billboard.

2387
01:06:12.338 --> 01:06:12.798
You never know.

2388
01:06:12.878 --> 01:06:13.619
You never know.

2389
01:06:14.059 --> 01:06:14.260
Yeah.

2390
01:06:14.420 --> 01:06:14.821
We'll see.

2391
01:06:15.101 --> 01:06:15.401
We'll see.

2392
01:06:15.481 --> 01:06:16.743
There's no pressure from mom,

2393
01:06:16.783 --> 01:06:17.905
whatever she wants to do.

2394
01:06:18.445 --> 01:06:19.146
Thank you for coming in.

2395
01:06:19.147 --> 01:06:19.767
This has been great.

2396
01:06:19.807 --> 01:06:20.047
Thank you.

2397
01:06:20.368 --> 01:06:21.229
I appreciate it.

2398
01:06:21.429 --> 01:06:22.751
It was really nice getting to know you.

2399
01:06:23.031 --> 01:06:23.452
My pleasure.