March 24, 2026

Joe Lombardo: The Truth about Being Governor

Joe Lombardo: The Truth about Being Governor
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Step inside one of the most candid and compelling episodes of Fargo Talks as host Jeff Fargo sits down with Nevada Governor Joe Lombardo and special guest Danielle Gallant for a powerful, unfiltered conversation on leadership, politics, and the future of Nevada. This episode goes beyond headlines and talking points, delivering real insight into what it takes to lead, serve, and evolve in today’s fast moving world. Governor Lombardo shares personal stories from his journey through law enforcement to the governor’s office, opening up about growth, public pressure, and the realities of decision making at the highest level. Danielle Gallant brings a bold and refreshing perspective, offering honest dialogue on policy, campaigning, and what it means to connect with people in a meaningful way. Together, the conversation highlights the importance of authenticity, resilience, and staying grounded while navigating complex issues that impact everyday Nevadans. From healthcare and education to entrepreneurship, communication, and the rise of artificial intelligence, this episode covers the topics people are actively searching for right now. Fargo Talks delivers a raw, engaging experience that feels more like a real conversation than a traditional interview, making it a must watch for anyone interested in Nevada politics, leadership, business, and personal growth. If you are searching for interviews with Joe Lombardo, Danielle Gallant, Nevada politics, or real conversations with leaders, this episode of Fargo Talks delivers unmatched value, insight, and authenticity.


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Well,

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thank you for coming.

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Oh,

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absolutely.

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Appreciate it,

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Governor.

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Yeah,

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yeah,

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yeah.

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Danielle Galantzman,

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a dear friend for years,

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and brought us together.

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And she's running for State Senate District 20.

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What do you see in her?

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District 20?

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Yeah.

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Oh,

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it is 20.

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Yeah.

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For some reason,

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I was thinking,

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oh,

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that's other guys are doing eight.

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What do I think of her?

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What do you see in her?

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That's it.

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Whoa,

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that's a loaded question.

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There's a $200 bill coming under the table right now,

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Fred.

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You know what I see is up and coming.

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I guess that's the words I would use.

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When Danielle and I first met,

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I think it was in Boulder City at some Republican event.

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Yeah,

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but we ran into each other when you were running the first time around.

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Running for what?

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When you were running for governor.

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Okay.

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I ran into you at the courthouse.

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I don't know why you were there,

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but I was walking out and you came running back and you go,

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where do I know you from?

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And I said,

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I'm running for assembly district.

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And then you go,

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what are you doing here?

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And I was like,

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I had jury duty.

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I'm okay.

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I'm not in trouble.

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Yeah.

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You had to clarify that.

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Yeah.

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Make sure you weren't reporting to your parole officer.

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Correct.

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Up and coming.

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So,

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I mean,

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she was obviously naive when she first started.

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and

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It takes a long time to get your feet on the ground in politics.

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And you understand personalities and the nuances and the ability to run a campaign and raise money and all those things.

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You know,

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you have this rainbow unicorn vision of your success in politics.

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And then she figured it out in short order,

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figured it out in short order.

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And the other thing I appreciate about her is we could have frank conversations.

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You know,

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it's not always a political conversation to where you're always trying to figure out the other individual and what they stand for,

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what motivates them,

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what they believe in.

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And it's a little more candid when we talk.

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And she's not afraid to say,

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hey,

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I don't support what your position is,

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Governor.

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you know,

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if you wouldn't mind,

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tell me why you have that position.

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you know,

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when we talk about things like...

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death with dignity and things like her.

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And I have gone back and forth quite a bit on that particular issue.

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But back to the original question,

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up and coming.

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And I mean that in a positive way.

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I believe she's found her way,

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her niche in the process,

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and what constituent she is attracted to and who's attracted to her and what she believes in.

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And,

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you know,

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because it's all nuanced.

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You know,

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especially in the world of MAGA and the Trump administration,

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people tend to glom on to what is popular and not what is personal.

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And I think that's more defined for Danielle.

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It's it's full disclosure.

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She's a client of mine.

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We've worked together for three years,

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been dear friends for almost 10.

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It's refreshing when I have a conversation with Danielle because.

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I mean,

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I'm,

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it's my show.

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I can swear.

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You don't have to,

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if you don't want to,

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but she's no bullshit.

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I mean,

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she wears her heart on her sleeve.

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And if she loves you,

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she loves you.

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And she is for you.

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You could still go at it,

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but it's like family.

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It's okay to go at it.

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Sometimes it's the refiner's fire and things get better.

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Sometimes when that happens and friendships are stronger,

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when you're more candid with somebody and it's something I've seen with her.

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Oh yeah.

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And it's,

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it's,

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and the responses aren't measured,

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you know?

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and sometimes you know me i hesitate when i answer and that's just me formulating the answer and making sure my thoughts are in process and people sometimes believe that i'm trying to dance around the question and that's not the case and uh

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you know her her responses aren't measured to what whether she's going to get the person's support or not what is the coolest part can i get a clinic

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Of course.

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See,

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Scott,

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I told you.

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This place makes me,

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my nose run,

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too.

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Let's go to Costco and replace the air filters.

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I don't want anybody to see the video and think I'm,

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you know,

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snorting.

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Blow?

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Blow.

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It's not legal,

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Governor.

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We can't do that.

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You can be high as giraffe nuts if you want to,

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but you can't snort.

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But that's the nature of the media,

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though.

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You do.

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Oh,

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my God.

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You know,

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subconscious move,

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and they think,

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oh.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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He's.

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Pupils are dilated.

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What's going on?

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Actually,

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I have very bad allergies.

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Well,

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it is the season,

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and now it's getting warmer out and windy,

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so it is what it is.

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I wanted to ask you,

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and this is something I've thought about for a while.

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What's the coolest part about being governor that no one knows?

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You know,

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that's a question that,

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well,

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I wouldn't say nobody,

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you know,

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when you say no one knows,

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that's not the common question.

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The common question is what is the coolest thing about being governor?

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And,

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you know,

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and everybody else has,

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everybody has a different response,

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especially the people that occupy the seat.

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But for me,

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it's the ability to meet folks that I would never meet in my life if I wasn't the governor.

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You know,

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and when I was the sheriff,

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you know,

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we.

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Everything was a little insular,

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a little myopic,

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because you develop a thick skin when you're in law enforcement and you believe that the population in general is of the same fabric.

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In other words,

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there's a very small portion of people within somebody's DNA or personality that is good in the world because it's negativity every day.

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every day,

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every day,

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every day.

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You're always responding to some negative issue or somebody in distress or some emotional catastrophe,

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whatever,

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an emergency,

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whatever it may be.

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But as a governor,

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it's a little bit different dynamic.

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It's sometimes you deal with people at their worst,

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you know,

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and you're dealing with emergencies and,

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you know,

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and,

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you know,

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law enforcement aspects.

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And,

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you know,

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it's a very diverse job,

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not device.

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You scratch that.

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It's not a device job.

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But it's diverse.

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But the more important piece is when I'm out and traveling and representing,

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you know,

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different aspects of the state,

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which are very different all across the board,

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and meeting people that I would never meet in my life.

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And it changes your complete attitude towards what I used to have.

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You know,

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it's 99%

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all bad,

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1%

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good.

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And I think,

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you know,

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you flip that on its head.

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not in totality,

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but in the majority,

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people are pretty good,

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you know,

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and it gets you grounded on what the hell is bothering them,

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right,

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more often than not.

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And when I was the sheriff,

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it was very rare,

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very rare when somebody would come up to you and say,

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hey,

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we appreciate what you're doing.

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You're doing a good job.

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Very rare.

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Really?

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And it's not a nature of your performance of the sheriff.

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It's just,

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you know,

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what we deal with,

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right?

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One of the greatest things.

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I'll just finish it.

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And the other piece on that is,

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as the governor,

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it happens all the time where they're coming up.

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Hey,

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we appreciate what you're doing.

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Thank you for standing up for us.

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Thank you for representing us.

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Thank you for doing a good job.

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And I appreciate that.

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There's been so during session,

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there was a couple of times when governor and I met for coffee.

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I don't know how many times I would after he would leave.

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Whoever came up to say hello would come up to me and say,

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my gosh,

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we never saw the other governor out and about.

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He's so nice,

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right?

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Or they would come up to the table and say,

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I'm sorry for bothering you.

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And God would go,

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no,

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come on over.

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Come say hi.

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What's your name?

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And he would give them time.

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And so just him being out and present within the community is different than other leaderships than we've had in the past.

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I mean,

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this weekend,

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he was doing a whole rural tour.

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from Reno all the way across the state down to the White Pine Ely and he's going out right like there's the Star Bar which is known for the pecan punch and after the dinner he went and visited everybody and the

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entire bar lit up that he would take time out of his busy schedule and you're exhausted after all those Lincoln Day dinners just to come and say hi and just be normal.

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Have you always been a people person?

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No.

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No.

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No,

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That's come over time.

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And you could tell by how quick my response is,

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it's absolute.

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So,

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you know,

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you have the introvert,

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extrovert personality evaluation as you grow up.

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You know,

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I was a little bit of a nerd in school.

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I participated significantly in sports,

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but I was pretty academic in school.

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You know,

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I graduated from UNLV with an engineering degree.

303
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So a little bit more mathematical

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STEM.

305
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type of education.

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And I was uncomfortable around people.

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What's the number one fear in the human's genome is public speaking,

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right?

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And

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I would sweat,

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my stomach would turn and everything else,

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especially when I made the decision to run for sheriff.

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And it took me quite a long time to feel comfortable in my skin and be able to present what I was thinking in my head and do it smoothly.

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and everything else that goes along with it.

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And then,

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you know,

317
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it just progresses over time.

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It just progresses over time.

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I just recently did an interview with John Ralston,

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and I've been...

321
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available to him for different interviews because you know it's it's basically he he's got a good big listening audience and get the word out right that that's what you want to try to do is get the word out instead of all the negativity that's you know approached upon you by a different party via social media whatever media stream it is and

322
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um you want to get your side of the story out right just like how danielle described it i saw me in public surprised her right that i'm gregarious and welcoming.

323
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you default back to this,

324
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you know,

325
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your original upbringing.

326
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And

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I was,

328
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my dad was in the military.

329
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So my entire,

330
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you know,

331
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youths,

332
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we had moved every three years.

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And I mean,

334
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you can't imagine how hard that is on a young kid.

335
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to make new friends every three years,

336
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to be uncomfortable in a new environment,

337
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who's the outsider,

338
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all that.

339
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So it made me a little more introverted.

340
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So then I made the decision to get into politics,

341
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and you had to break out of that fast in order to get some support.

342
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So it's come with time.

343
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So back to the Ralston thing,

344
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this last one,

345
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I had several people approach me.

346
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They said,

347
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man,

348
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you have progressed so much and how comfortable you are dealing with the answers.

349
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And one of the biggest issues wasn't just...

350
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personality driven it was i didn't want to be in a situation uh asked a question i didn't have an answer i was like oh i don't know and you know and look ignorant to whatever the issue is and so now it's you know you can't know everything about everything talk

351
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to me about when you ran for sheriff is that the first time it's called communication apprehension this is stage fright and is that the first time you really had to face that challenge yeah you

352
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I would say so.

353
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I mean,

354
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in totality,

355
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I mean,

356
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a lot of things you do outside of being the representative of an organization is amongst your peers,

357
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right?

358
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And,

359
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you know,

360
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you're a little more comfortable when you're amongst your peers versus,

361
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you know,

362
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the buck stops here.

363
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Here I am representing all your subordinates and functionality of the organization.

364
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And,

365
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yeah,

366
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it was probably the first time.

367
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What was the voice inside of you that,

368
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because you're a driven guy.

369
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I think you're a guy that you get shit done,

370
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but a lot of it I think is quiet,

371
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and you just get it done and move on.

372
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You don't care about getting the praise for it.

373
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Let's just go check it off.

374
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Let's move on.

375
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What is it that was like that voice inside of you that was like,

376
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all right,

377
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got to get up.

378
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I got to speak in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

379
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What was that voice?

380
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A lot of deep breathing.

381
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Was it?

382
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Yeah,

383
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yeah,

384
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yeah.

385
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You know,

386
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I went to,

387
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you know,

388
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those traditional,

389
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I can't remember the names of them,

390
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you know,

391
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public speaking training things and everything.

392
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Oh,

393
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like Toastmasters?

394
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Yeah,

395
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things like that.

396
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But,

397
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you know,

398
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none of those work.

399
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I'm telling you,

400
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they don't work.

401
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I'm telling you,

402
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they don't.

403
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Because you're amongst,

404
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you know,

405
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20,

406
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30,

407
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40 people in the class that are in the same situation you are,

408
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right?

409
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And you know what works?

410
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Doing it.

411
00:13:01.560 --> 00:13:02.520
That's the only thing that works.

412
00:13:02.680 --> 00:13:06.922
What about the first time you made national news as sheriff and you had to speak?

413
00:13:06.982 --> 00:13:07.642
Was it different?

414
00:13:08.963 --> 00:13:09.983
You talking about 1 October?

415
00:13:10.923 --> 00:13:12.264
I don't know if that was the first time.

416
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No,

417
00:13:12.404 --> 00:13:13.304
it wasn't the first time.

418
00:13:13.344 --> 00:13:13.525
Well,

419
00:13:13.565 --> 00:13:13.705
yeah,

420
00:13:13.765 --> 00:13:14.445
it probably was.

421
00:13:14.725 --> 00:13:16.126
the first time national news.

422
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I had a lot of times prior to being sheriff,

423
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you know,

424
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assistant sheriff and stuff involved in different emergency aspects,

425
00:13:23.289 --> 00:13:24.389
homeland security issues.

426
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What was the question?

427
00:13:27.710 --> 00:13:31.792
Just the first time you knew that you were about to speak and it was going to be national news.

428
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Yeah,

429
00:13:31.992 --> 00:13:32.132
yeah,

430
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yeah.

431
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It's funny,

432
00:13:33.533 --> 00:13:39.115
you go to this place called the National Academy and that's where police executives go back to Quantico,

433
00:13:39.475 --> 00:13:43.957
back east in Virginia to talk about leadership and learn.

434
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skills and everything.

435
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And one of the classes is public information and responding to the press.

436
00:13:51.608 --> 00:13:52.869
They throw you in a scenario,

437
00:13:53.349 --> 00:13:54.830
throw a camera in front of you and say,

438
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okay,

439
00:13:55.331 --> 00:13:56.312
this is the scenario.

440
00:13:56.472 --> 00:13:57.553
This is a situation.

441
00:13:58.113 --> 00:13:59.495
What are you allowed to talk about?

442
00:13:59.555 --> 00:14:00.856
What are you going to talk about?

443
00:14:00.857 --> 00:14:02.137
And how are you going to present it?

444
00:14:02.978 --> 00:14:03.298
And,

445
00:14:03.618 --> 00:14:06.040
and that was tough.

446
00:14:06.041 --> 00:14:06.881
That was very tough,

447
00:14:06.961 --> 00:14:07.842
but it was telling,

448
00:14:07.882 --> 00:14:08.122
you know,

449
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Hey,

450
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I need to work on this.

451
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But like I said,

452
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you have to do it in order to improve upon it.

453
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I remember the first time I heard you speak when you were running,

454
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the first time at the Keystone versus listening to you this weekend.

455
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Right.

456
00:14:24.762 --> 00:14:27.583
It's like night and day how comfortable you are up there.

457
00:14:27.923 --> 00:14:33.005
Like you kind of do some jokes and get everybody more relaxed and it's good.

458
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You know,

459
00:14:33.806 --> 00:14:36.087
and some people say that comedy is a default.

460
00:14:36.247 --> 00:14:38.167
It's a coping mechanism.

461
00:14:38.247 --> 00:14:38.628
Correct.

462
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And I don't agree with that.

463
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I think it's just relating.

464
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In my opinion,

465
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I think comedy can be disarming.

466
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Yeah.

467
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Like if,

468
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if you're,

469
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if you make somebody laugh,

470
00:14:49.539 --> 00:14:50.481
that's going to be engaging.

471
00:14:51.281 --> 00:14:52.041
because you're kind of,

472
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that's very disarming to them.

473
00:14:55.242 --> 00:14:56.002
I'm the dad of a

474
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17-year-old stepdaughter.

475
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My daughter is 16 and goes to LVA.

476
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My son's 10 and goes to school at Glenn Taylor and Henderson.

477
00:15:02.084 --> 00:15:03.244
I make them laugh all the time.

478
00:15:03.404 --> 00:15:04.465
I'm the funniest guy they know.

479
00:15:04.545 --> 00:15:05.105
Just ask me.

480
00:15:05.245 --> 00:15:05.365
Well,

481
00:15:05.425 --> 00:15:06.645
Jack's the funniest kid I know.

482
00:15:06.646 --> 00:15:07.445
Jack's hilarious.

483
00:15:07.465 --> 00:15:07.605
Yeah,

484
00:15:07.665 --> 00:15:08.566
that's his youngest kid.

485
00:15:08.567 --> 00:15:08.686
Well,

486
00:15:08.687 --> 00:15:10.186
I'll be working for Jack Fargo one day.

487
00:15:10.606 --> 00:15:11.046
He's learning.

488
00:15:11.567 --> 00:15:13.567
He's teaching himself now guitar or Metallica.

489
00:15:13.907 --> 00:15:14.787
He's teaching himself.

490
00:15:14.807 --> 00:15:15.588
He's three weeks in,

491
00:15:15.968 --> 00:15:17.548
and it's wonderful to watch.

492
00:15:18.568 --> 00:15:20.589
Do you actually think you're funny?

493
00:15:20.769 --> 00:15:20.989
I do.

494
00:15:22.010 --> 00:15:22.810
I'm fucking hilarious.

495
00:15:23.390 --> 00:15:23.571
Yeah.

496
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Ask my wife.

497
00:15:24.571 --> 00:15:26.052
If I was a poor Jack aside,

498
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he wouldn't agree.

499
00:15:27.373 --> 00:15:27.873
Oh,

500
00:15:28.293 --> 00:15:29.214
Jack would disagree with you.

501
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With all due respect,

502
00:15:30.374 --> 00:15:30.495
sir,

503
00:15:30.795 --> 00:15:32.135
he would be very respectful to you,

504
00:15:32.195 --> 00:15:32.596
but he would say,

505
00:15:32.616 --> 00:15:32.736
no,

506
00:15:32.776 --> 00:15:33.276
my dad's not.

507
00:15:33.456 --> 00:15:34.277
He's told me I'm cool,

508
00:15:35.077 --> 00:15:37.038
which is the best validation ever.

509
00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:37.779
He's only 10 at this point.

510
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Whatever helps you sleep at night.

511
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Oh,

512
00:15:42.181 --> 00:15:43.082
if we knew each other better,

513
00:15:43.102 --> 00:15:43.702
I'd have a reply,

514
00:15:43.742 --> 00:15:45.323
but out of respect to the office,

515
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I won't say a word.

516
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I know that...

517
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In your bio online,

518
00:15:50.886 --> 00:15:51.326
it says,

519
00:15:51.366 --> 00:15:51.746
I believe,

520
00:15:51.826 --> 00:15:55.987
the greatest job you have is being a grandfather to your grandson,

521
00:15:56.027 --> 00:15:56.407
Theodore,

522
00:15:57.047 --> 00:15:57.267
right?

523
00:15:57.427 --> 00:15:57.547
Yeah,

524
00:15:57.548 --> 00:15:58.308
that's probably accurate.

525
00:15:58.328 --> 00:15:58.568
Right?

526
00:15:58.948 --> 00:15:59.888
As you govern—

527
00:15:59.908 --> 00:16:01.549
I wouldn't couch it as a job,

528
00:16:01.609 --> 00:16:01.769
though.

529
00:16:01.770 --> 00:16:01.869
Well,

530
00:16:01.870 --> 00:16:02.249
a position.

531
00:16:02.250 --> 00:16:02.349
Yeah,

532
00:16:02.350 --> 00:16:02.469
yeah.

533
00:16:04.489 --> 00:16:06.450
The greatest position you have is being a grandpa.

534
00:16:06.451 --> 00:16:06.570
Right,

535
00:16:06.590 --> 00:16:07.430
yeah.

536
00:16:07.431 --> 00:16:07.650
Right?

537
00:16:08.231 --> 00:16:09.891
As you're governing the state of Nevada,

538
00:16:10.831 --> 00:16:11.531
healthcare,

539
00:16:12.032 --> 00:16:12.592
housing,

540
00:16:12.852 --> 00:16:13.712
infrastructure,

541
00:16:13.912 --> 00:16:14.832
everything going on,

542
00:16:15.553 --> 00:16:16.693
How much are you thinking about?

543
00:16:17.701 --> 00:16:17.941
you know,

544
00:16:18.021 --> 00:16:20.842
what's going to be handed over to Theodore in the future.

545
00:16:20.843 --> 00:16:20.963
Yeah,

546
00:16:20.964 --> 00:16:21.943
I know where you're going with that.

547
00:16:22.223 --> 00:16:23.724
And before I answer the question,

548
00:16:23.784 --> 00:16:27.045
I don't want any of my other kids to feel slighted.

549
00:16:27.405 --> 00:16:28.886
It wasn't intended that way.

550
00:16:29.366 --> 00:16:29.486
Yeah,

551
00:16:29.487 --> 00:16:30.467
it wasn't intended that way.

552
00:16:30.887 --> 00:16:34.228
But that's it,

553
00:16:34.348 --> 00:16:34.549
man.

554
00:16:34.609 --> 00:16:34.869
I mean,

555
00:16:34.889 --> 00:16:35.869
that's the motivator.

556
00:16:36.069 --> 00:16:36.850
That's the motivator.

557
00:16:36.910 --> 00:16:37.210
You know,

558
00:16:37.211 --> 00:16:38.710
the motivator is you want to do good,

559
00:16:39.031 --> 00:16:39.291
you know,

560
00:16:39.311 --> 00:16:41.131
in the position that people elect you for.

561
00:16:41.171 --> 00:16:43.593
But more importantly is the future.

562
00:16:43.753 --> 00:16:44.293
because neon

563
00:16:44.845 --> 00:16:46.226
I've said this a thousand times,

564
00:16:46.246 --> 00:16:47.546
government is not efficient,

565
00:16:47.866 --> 00:16:48.106
right?

566
00:16:48.186 --> 00:16:55.770
And you have to come up with ideas and put policies and procedures and programs in place that have longevity.

567
00:16:56.490 --> 00:17:02.812
And what's it going to look like 10 years from now versus satisfying somebody that you want to get their vote,

568
00:17:03.613 --> 00:17:03.913
you know,

569
00:17:04.573 --> 00:17:06.794
or somebody to endorse you in the short term?

570
00:17:08.875 --> 00:17:10.656
So that's how I look at it from the beginning.

571
00:17:10.996 --> 00:17:13.777
And what is the future going to look like?

572
00:17:14.457 --> 00:17:18.781
Or is the people below me or after me going to say,

573
00:17:19.461 --> 00:17:19.621
man,

574
00:17:19.661 --> 00:17:20.862
this guy really screwed it up.

575
00:17:21.523 --> 00:17:23.945
I can't believe we're dealing with this in this situation.

576
00:17:24.865 --> 00:17:25.786
And unfortunately,

577
00:17:25.886 --> 00:17:30.510
because of the makeup and the mechanism of the legislature,

578
00:17:31.611 --> 00:17:34.934
they have to shove a lot of information in a short period of time.

579
00:17:35.614 --> 00:17:36.295
And a lot of it's,

580
00:17:36.615 --> 00:17:37.476
to be frank with you,

581
00:17:37.477 --> 00:17:38.256
it's not thought out,

582
00:17:38.717 --> 00:17:38.977
right?

583
00:17:39.197 --> 00:17:39.477
You know,

584
00:17:39.517 --> 00:17:41.639
there's different motivators in that process,

585
00:17:41.759 --> 00:17:44.061
but it's hard for you to evaluate.

586
00:17:44.569 --> 00:17:51.811
unintended consequences in the long term in that shorter crunched time and what that's going to look like in the future.

587
00:17:52.251 --> 00:17:55.832
And everybody has their handout in those 120 days.

588
00:17:56.152 --> 00:17:57.493
So the bigger the bill,

589
00:17:57.853 --> 00:17:59.553
the more the asks.

590
00:17:59.994 --> 00:18:00.314
And then

591
00:18:00.894 --> 00:18:06.816
I think one of the things that is probably frustrating for you and me is that it doesn't matter whether it's good policy.

592
00:18:08.536 --> 00:18:09.816
For a lot of the people up there,

593
00:18:09.817 --> 00:18:11.717
it matters whose policy it is.

594
00:18:12.641 --> 00:18:15.122
And instead of putting Nevadans first,

595
00:18:16.022 --> 00:18:17.423
they're putting party first.

596
00:18:18.003 --> 00:18:21.425
And so I find I'm sure you find that frustrating as well.

597
00:18:21.485 --> 00:18:21.705
I mean,

598
00:18:21.965 --> 00:18:24.386
let's take a look at that health care bill during special session.

599
00:18:24.726 --> 00:18:25.546
Great bill.

600
00:18:25.906 --> 00:18:26.127
Right.

601
00:18:26.327 --> 00:18:27.227
What did Cannizzaro do?

602
00:18:27.667 --> 00:18:29.528
She threw in to pull money,

603
00:18:30.028 --> 00:18:31.069
part of that grant money,

604
00:18:31.309 --> 00:18:31.969
60 million,

605
00:18:31.970 --> 00:18:33.049
if I remember correctly,

606
00:18:34.270 --> 00:18:35.831
to go to Planned Parenthood.

607
00:18:36.211 --> 00:18:36.331
Well,

608
00:18:36.332 --> 00:18:37.731
they already get a ton of money,

609
00:18:38.011 --> 00:18:41.513
but she did it because she would get the endorsement because it would be good.

610
00:18:42.017 --> 00:18:50.742
And then it was also going to make it harder to get across the finish line for a lot of Republicans who don't believe that government money should be going to that at the very least.

611
00:18:50.842 --> 00:18:51.082
Right.

612
00:18:51.482 --> 00:18:51.682
Yeah,

613
00:18:51.722 --> 00:18:53.383
there's a lot of games to be played.

614
00:18:53.443 --> 00:18:56.105
And during any political process,

615
00:18:56.125 --> 00:18:57.766
no matter what branch of government it is.

616
00:18:58.606 --> 00:19:02.308
But it's important to know that going in.

617
00:19:02.528 --> 00:19:05.330
And the other one is to take it for what it's worth.

618
00:19:05.390 --> 00:19:05.630
You know,

619
00:19:06.370 --> 00:19:08.472
politics is always a moving target.

620
00:19:08.752 --> 00:19:08.952
Right.

621
00:19:09.292 --> 00:19:09.612
Yeah.

622
00:19:09.613 --> 00:19:10.553
It's a moving target.

623
00:19:10.593 --> 00:19:10.733
you

624
00:19:11.345 --> 00:19:15.447
And you have to figure out in short order what people's motivation is,

625
00:19:15.547 --> 00:19:16.628
what their motivators are.

626
00:19:16.868 --> 00:19:18.869
And a lot of times,

627
00:19:19.029 --> 00:19:19.990
and here's the thing,

628
00:19:20.050 --> 00:19:21.611
I'll be frank with your audience,

629
00:19:23.812 --> 00:19:26.473
is politics frustrates the hell out of me.

630
00:19:26.814 --> 00:19:27.094
Okay?

631
00:19:28.274 --> 00:19:30.055
And what I mean by that is

632
00:19:30.956 --> 00:19:34.398
I went in this with probably not eyes wide open,

633
00:19:34.538 --> 00:19:40.181
with rainbow sunglasses and chocolate rivers thinking.

634
00:19:40.850 --> 00:19:41.031
Hey,

635
00:19:41.694 --> 00:19:43.384
we're all in it for the same reason.

636
00:19:43.875 --> 00:19:45.016
And that is not the case.

637
00:19:45.576 --> 00:19:47.078
Absolutely is not the case.

638
00:19:47.079 --> 00:19:52.101
There's every individual person in the process has their own personal motivations.

639
00:19:52.202 --> 00:19:52.462
Right.

640
00:19:53.042 --> 00:19:53.583
But I thought,

641
00:19:53.783 --> 00:19:54.003
okay,

642
00:19:54.023 --> 00:19:54.704
I understand that.

643
00:19:54.744 --> 00:20:03.090
But I thought the majority of it would be to the benefit of the state and the people that live within the states and their families and what the future is going to look like.

644
00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:03.370
No,

645
00:20:03.571 --> 00:20:03.691
no,

646
00:20:03.831 --> 00:20:03.951
no.

647
00:20:04.151 --> 00:20:05.132
That's not the case.

648
00:20:05.932 --> 00:20:08.875
The majority of it is what is my next job going to be?

649
00:20:10.379 --> 00:20:13.741
And how can I leverage my current job to the benefit of myself?

650
00:20:14.761 --> 00:20:16.763
And the third piece on that is,

651
00:20:17.523 --> 00:20:18.944
what does the party say?

652
00:20:20.265 --> 00:20:21.765
What is the party's position?

653
00:20:22.706 --> 00:20:22.886
Not,

654
00:20:22.966 --> 00:20:27.629
forget my individual position and what I believed in when I stood there and raised my hand,

655
00:20:27.689 --> 00:20:28.289
got sworn in.

656
00:20:28.449 --> 00:20:29.370
Or prior to that,

657
00:20:29.790 --> 00:20:35.173
when I was on the campaign trail and made promises along the way and telling them what I was going to do.

658
00:20:36.273 --> 00:20:39.075
And then they get in there and the party's the all-powerful.

659
00:20:39.235 --> 00:20:41.076
The party comes down on you and says,

660
00:20:41.137 --> 00:20:41.837
nope,

661
00:20:43.238 --> 00:20:45.080
you need to either get on board or get out.

662
00:20:45.660 --> 00:20:47.261
And this is what the party believes in,

663
00:20:47.702 --> 00:20:51.245
even if it's agnostic to the state.

664
00:20:51.565 --> 00:20:52.686
And what I mean by that is,

665
00:20:52.906 --> 00:20:53.146
you know,

666
00:20:54.127 --> 00:20:55.888
you got the entire federal,

667
00:20:56.889 --> 00:20:57.129
you know,

668
00:20:57.290 --> 00:20:58.110
arm of the party.

669
00:20:58.591 --> 00:21:01.613
And then it comes down to regional arm of the party.

670
00:21:01.713 --> 00:21:04.035
Then it comes down to the states in particular.

671
00:21:04.756 --> 00:21:07.898
But Nevada is expected to get in line with Florida,

672
00:21:08.479 --> 00:21:08.719
right?

673
00:21:09.259 --> 00:21:09.379
Or,

674
00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:09.760
you know,

675
00:21:09.761 --> 00:21:12.982
if it's a Republican or Nevada is supposed to get in line with California,

676
00:21:13.022 --> 00:21:13.803
if it's Democrat.

677
00:21:14.623 --> 00:21:16.465
And that may not be my belief,

678
00:21:17.326 --> 00:21:19.147
but the party is going to tell you how to believe.

679
00:21:19.768 --> 00:21:20.608
And that's frustrating.

680
00:21:22.049 --> 00:21:22.990
It is something to me.

681
00:21:23.911 --> 00:21:29.375
I could never be in politics because I watch it and it's exhausting because you come in with all the best intentions.

682
00:21:29.455 --> 00:21:29.696
You know,

683
00:21:29.697 --> 00:21:30.216
the chocolate,

684
00:21:30.857 --> 00:21:31.097
you know,

685
00:21:31.177 --> 00:21:34.540
rivers and unicorns jumping through rainbows and all the good things.

686
00:21:34.600 --> 00:21:36.721
And you get in there and it's like death by a thousand cuts.

687
00:21:37.142 --> 00:21:38.563
You're just all the time.

688
00:21:38.939 --> 00:21:39.939
People are coming at you.

689
00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.781
When you go in for your second term,

690
00:21:43.061 --> 00:21:44.321
I'm assuming you're going to win.

691
00:21:45.322 --> 00:21:46.362
Going into second term,

692
00:21:46.802 --> 00:21:49.904
what are some things you've learned the first time that you're like,

693
00:21:50.024 --> 00:21:50.244
okay,

694
00:21:50.844 --> 00:21:52.485
now I can strap it up a little bit better.

695
00:21:52.945 --> 00:21:58.808
I can bunker down a little bit more moving forward with a better Nevada in your second term as governor?

696
00:21:59.648 --> 00:22:00.348
Great question.

697
00:22:00.749 --> 00:22:04.630
And it's not easy to answer,

698
00:22:04.770 --> 00:22:06.231
but I'll make a stab at it.

699
00:22:07.515 --> 00:22:07.856
You said,

700
00:22:07.916 --> 00:22:12.679
what did I learn and where am I going to buckle up to try to make a difference,

701
00:22:12.719 --> 00:22:13.019
correct?

702
00:22:13.439 --> 00:22:13.560
Yes,

703
00:22:13.580 --> 00:22:13.700
sir.

704
00:22:15.101 --> 00:22:15.321
Well,

705
00:22:16.381 --> 00:22:24.387
I explained how cumbersome and how flawed the policy is when we're trying to pass legislation that's beneficial.

706
00:22:25.948 --> 00:22:31.692
And there's a lot of forces that prevent you from doing a really good job there.

707
00:22:32.553 --> 00:22:33.173
And

708
00:22:35.054 --> 00:22:36.135
I tried to.

709
00:22:37.232 --> 00:22:39.575
take on too much in my first term.

710
00:22:39.836 --> 00:22:40.176
All right.

711
00:22:40.897 --> 00:22:41.358
You want to,

712
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:43.641
you want to get these big comprehensive,

713
00:22:44.402 --> 00:22:44.643
you know,

714
00:22:44.923 --> 00:22:46.325
life changing bills,

715
00:22:46.706 --> 00:22:47.888
the omnibus bills,

716
00:22:47.908 --> 00:22:48.408
we call them.

717
00:22:49.069 --> 00:22:49.250
Um,

718
00:22:49.670 --> 00:22:52.655
that's going to have a larger influence on.

719
00:22:53.407 --> 00:22:56.370
majority of the population versus a minority of the population.

720
00:22:56.630 --> 00:22:58.952
So you're getting up to the plate and want to hit a home run every single time.

721
00:22:58.953 --> 00:22:59.132
Yeah,

722
00:22:59.152 --> 00:22:59.432
yeah,

723
00:22:59.612 --> 00:22:59.952
yeah.

724
00:23:00.093 --> 00:23:05.417
You're wanting to hit a home run and then you find out you're going in too many different directions.

725
00:23:05.418 --> 00:23:07.899
You got too many irons in the fire and,

726
00:23:07.999 --> 00:23:08.319
you know,

727
00:23:08.539 --> 00:23:12.382
and it's all these forces against you through the process.

728
00:23:12.583 --> 00:23:13.824
And then you're like,

729
00:23:13.864 --> 00:23:14.064
yeah,

730
00:23:14.224 --> 00:23:17.086
I need to scale this down in the future.

731
00:23:17.627 --> 00:23:17.887
You know,

732
00:23:18.647 --> 00:23:22.691
instead of trying to push six pieces of key legislations,

733
00:23:22.771 --> 00:23:23.031
let's.

734
00:23:23.131 --> 00:23:30.137
figure out the most important pieces of legislation in the short time that we have available to us and get that push.

735
00:23:30.677 --> 00:23:31.758
And you're probably going to say,

736
00:23:31.818 --> 00:23:31.958
well,

737
00:23:31.959 --> 00:23:32.739
what are those?

738
00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:33.219
And,

739
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:33.780
you know,

740
00:23:34.000 --> 00:23:39.484
I've always told myself I wanted to be the education governor because I think that's the foundation of everything we do in society,

741
00:23:40.005 --> 00:23:43.007
education and that future for ourselves.

742
00:23:43.067 --> 00:23:45.229
And I want to continue on that path.

743
00:23:45.429 --> 00:23:46.650
And then secondary is,

744
00:23:46.850 --> 00:23:47.050
is,

745
00:23:47.391 --> 00:23:47.591
um,

746
00:23:48.915 --> 00:23:49.155
you know,

747
00:23:49.156 --> 00:23:51.137
you can bounce around in different aspects.

748
00:23:51.157 --> 00:23:53.939
And I had always said public safety is priority one,

749
00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:54.420
you know,

750
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:57.382
for the success of the economy and your personal safety.

751
00:23:57.522 --> 00:24:07.912
But we've made monumental strides in the public safety space where we are still hurting tremendously is in the healthcare space.

752
00:24:09.053 --> 00:24:09.333
And so

753
00:24:09.713 --> 00:24:11.815
I want to have a significant,

754
00:24:12.496 --> 00:24:12.736
you know,

755
00:24:12.916 --> 00:24:14.978
but everything else is inclusive of that,

756
00:24:15.138 --> 00:24:16.279
expanding the economy.

757
00:24:16.499 --> 00:24:17.580
a birth plan economy,

758
00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.501
public safety,

759
00:24:18.701 --> 00:24:20.303
affordable attainable housing,

760
00:24:20.583 --> 00:24:20.823
right?

761
00:24:20.983 --> 00:24:21.924
All those aspects.

762
00:24:22.645 --> 00:24:27.670
But I want to make sure that all those aspects support education and healthcare.

763
00:24:27.970 --> 00:24:29.872
What do you think is holding back with the healthcare?

764
00:24:30.613 --> 00:24:30.833
I mean,

765
00:24:30.853 --> 00:24:31.734
I have my ideas,

766
00:24:31.774 --> 00:24:33.255
but I don't think I've ever asked you that.

767
00:24:33.316 --> 00:24:35.718
It's important in healthcare to,

768
00:24:35.838 --> 00:24:36.118
you know,

769
00:24:36.278 --> 00:24:36.519
to

770
00:24:38.074 --> 00:24:39.295
in the system itself.

771
00:24:40.355 --> 00:24:41.956
We've made strides in health care,

772
00:24:42.056 --> 00:24:42.717
mental health,

773
00:24:42.837 --> 00:24:43.077
you know,

774
00:24:43.197 --> 00:24:43.697
services,

775
00:24:43.757 --> 00:24:44.758
wraparound services,

776
00:24:44.838 --> 00:24:45.758
rural health care,

777
00:24:46.679 --> 00:24:47.439
technology,

778
00:24:48.060 --> 00:24:48.400
Medicaid,

779
00:24:48.460 --> 00:24:48.860
Medicare,

780
00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:49.740
all those things.

781
00:24:49.800 --> 00:24:53.963
But more importantly is the quality is hurting the most.

782
00:24:54.923 --> 00:24:55.444
And you hear,

783
00:24:55.564 --> 00:24:57.044
you've heard it for decades.

784
00:24:57.465 --> 00:24:57.725
You know,

785
00:24:57.905 --> 00:25:01.367
you got to go to the airport to get quality health care in the state of Nevada.

786
00:25:02.167 --> 00:25:02.387
You know,

787
00:25:02.388 --> 00:25:03.768
I'll push back on that a little bit.

788
00:25:04.268 --> 00:25:04.509
You know,

789
00:25:04.869 --> 00:25:06.910
I've experienced some quality health care here.

790
00:25:07.150 --> 00:25:08.591
without going to the airport,

791
00:25:08.611 --> 00:25:10.293
but I think it needs to be more robust.

792
00:25:11.113 --> 00:25:16.158
I think we need to have more specialized disciplines in the state.

793
00:25:17.098 --> 00:25:17.218
And,

794
00:25:17.219 --> 00:25:17.439
you know,

795
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:20.121
we address that via graduate medical education.

796
00:25:20.741 --> 00:25:23.524
And what that means is when you graduate med school,

797
00:25:23.944 --> 00:25:26.346
you go off into your residency programs.

798
00:25:26.887 --> 00:25:28.468
And traditionally,

799
00:25:28.568 --> 00:25:30.269
wherever your residency program is,

800
00:25:30.369 --> 00:25:31.150
upon completion,

801
00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:33.212
you remain in that geography,

802
00:25:33.572 --> 00:25:33.752
right?

803
00:25:33.753 --> 00:25:34.753
You end up living there.

804
00:25:35.073 --> 00:25:35.354
Okay.

805
00:25:36.494 --> 00:25:37.814
because the place you're doing that,

806
00:25:37.815 --> 00:25:39.235
they probably offer you a job.

807
00:25:39.495 --> 00:25:42.576
So we don't have those programs other than,

808
00:25:42.716 --> 00:25:42.956
you know,

809
00:25:42.996 --> 00:25:47.377
internal medicine and general medicine here in the state of Nevada.

810
00:25:47.537 --> 00:25:49.858
And so we have to expand upon that.

811
00:25:50.278 --> 00:25:50.958
So the state,

812
00:25:51.358 --> 00:25:52.359
via the legislature,

813
00:25:52.819 --> 00:25:54.459
injected a significant amount of money,

814
00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.100
$300 million over two sessions,

815
00:25:58.220 --> 00:26:01.101
to expand upon that through the hospital systems,

816
00:26:01.401 --> 00:26:04.562
those residency programs to get more specialized.

817
00:26:05.694 --> 00:26:05.914
Um,

818
00:26:06.154 --> 00:26:11.236
so you asked what the hurdle is or what the obstacles are.

819
00:26:12.097 --> 00:26:12.297
Um,

820
00:26:13.117 --> 00:26:14.458
it takes a long time to do that,

821
00:26:14.518 --> 00:26:14.998
right?

822
00:26:14.999 --> 00:26:17.079
It takes a significant investment to do that.

823
00:26:17.959 --> 00:26:21.761
And there's limited coffers to address those particular issues.

824
00:26:21.801 --> 00:26:22.401
So we,

825
00:26:22.402 --> 00:26:22.601
you know,

826
00:26:22.741 --> 00:26:23.041
you gotta,

827
00:26:23.482 --> 00:26:24.422
you gotta parse that out.

828
00:26:24.423 --> 00:26:26.943
You gotta triage it and you gotta set your own priorities.

829
00:26:27.083 --> 00:26:28.344
Do you think that opening up,

830
00:26:28.504 --> 00:26:28.764
um,

831
00:26:29.024 --> 00:26:31.725
licensing just in terms of reciprocity with other states,

832
00:26:31.745 --> 00:26:32.305
which is being,

833
00:26:32.325 --> 00:26:33.766
could be struggling with here?

834
00:26:35.098 --> 00:26:35.779
There's a sense of,

835
00:26:36.179 --> 00:26:36.379
well,

836
00:26:36.479 --> 00:26:37.920
that's because there's a sense of ownership,

837
00:26:38.020 --> 00:26:38.280
right?

838
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:43.042
When you get into a professional occupation,

839
00:26:43.442 --> 00:26:43.862
people say,

840
00:26:43.902 --> 00:26:44.122
well,

841
00:26:44.242 --> 00:26:44.622
I did it.

842
00:26:44.642 --> 00:26:45.463
Why can't they do it?

843
00:26:45.683 --> 00:26:45.983
Right.

844
00:26:46.163 --> 00:26:46.463
You know,

845
00:26:46.803 --> 00:26:48.004
and instead of,

846
00:26:48.104 --> 00:26:48.364
you know,

847
00:26:48.365 --> 00:26:51.965
that's going to take away from my customer base or,

848
00:26:52.025 --> 00:26:52.286
you know,

849
00:26:53.186 --> 00:26:54.586
it's a sense of competition,

850
00:26:55.247 --> 00:26:55.507
you know,

851
00:26:55.547 --> 00:26:58.788
all the failures of expansion.

852
00:26:59.729 --> 00:27:01.069
And the perfect example of that,

853
00:27:01.449 --> 00:27:01.850
Danielle,

854
00:27:01.910 --> 00:27:02.070
is,

855
00:27:02.450 --> 00:27:02.770
you know,

856
00:27:02.990 --> 00:27:05.651
because you dealt with it was the nursing compact,

857
00:27:05.871 --> 00:27:06.091
right?

858
00:27:06.991 --> 00:27:08.432
And the nurses says,

859
00:27:08.452 --> 00:27:08.572
no,

860
00:27:08.632 --> 00:27:09.272
I don't,

861
00:27:09.292 --> 00:27:10.712
we don't want all these other nurses here.

862
00:27:10.972 --> 00:27:12.753
That's going to limit my overtime,

863
00:27:13.193 --> 00:27:13.473
you know,

864
00:27:13.613 --> 00:27:13.893
my,

865
00:27:14.053 --> 00:27:18.654
my ability to fund my profession and everything else.

866
00:27:18.674 --> 00:27:18.995
And I said,

867
00:27:19.015 --> 00:27:19.135
Hey,

868
00:27:19.175 --> 00:27:20.075
that's a little selfish.

869
00:27:20.855 --> 00:27:21.115
You know,

870
00:27:21.175 --> 00:27:23.736
you're in the healthcare business to take care of others.

871
00:27:24.596 --> 00:27:25.416
Not necessarily.

872
00:27:25.436 --> 00:27:27.237
You have to in some aspects yourself,

873
00:27:27.297 --> 00:27:28.297
but not necessarily.

874
00:27:28.377 --> 00:27:30.898
Everything's all encompassing because of your situation.

875
00:27:31.766 --> 00:27:34.667
And for them to deny that over two sessions is,

876
00:27:34.967 --> 00:27:36.687
I think that's total malpractice.

877
00:27:37.087 --> 00:27:38.328
My wife is a hospice nurse.

878
00:27:38.408 --> 00:27:38.788
Right.

879
00:27:38.968 --> 00:27:42.189
And we got together two years ago now,

880
00:27:42.190 --> 00:27:45.510
and she came in from Florida and was just amazed by,

881
00:27:46.170 --> 00:27:46.410
you know,

882
00:27:46.550 --> 00:27:49.271
just how nurses aren't taken care of here.

883
00:27:49.551 --> 00:27:52.192
And it's because of the selfishness of others,

884
00:27:52.832 --> 00:27:53.752
of what's going on.

885
00:27:54.272 --> 00:27:54.912
And it's awful.

886
00:27:55.492 --> 00:27:56.173
It is awful.

887
00:27:56.733 --> 00:27:58.193
Another perfect example,

888
00:27:58.493 --> 00:28:01.314
there was a piece of legislation to increase.

889
00:28:03.536 --> 00:28:06.738
the nursing ratios at the hospitals.

890
00:28:07.539 --> 00:28:08.079
In other words,

891
00:28:08.080 --> 00:28:09.481
there was a staffing mandate,

892
00:28:09.701 --> 00:28:14.264
a level of requirement to be on floor in order to do that.

893
00:28:15.105 --> 00:28:16.967
So on one hand,

894
00:28:17.227 --> 00:28:19.469
we're suffering from a shortage of nurses.

895
00:28:20.269 --> 00:28:20.469
Okay,

896
00:28:20.489 --> 00:28:27.735
so let's go over here and mandate that we have these certain levels of staffing to provide quality care to these.

897
00:28:28.156 --> 00:28:28.316
Okay,

898
00:28:28.356 --> 00:28:28.476
well,

899
00:28:28.516 --> 00:28:29.597
how are you going to do that?

900
00:28:30.297 --> 00:28:30.898
Over time.

901
00:28:31.738 --> 00:28:31.978
Right.

902
00:28:32.078 --> 00:28:35.541
You're going to you're going to increase the overtime to where,

903
00:28:35.901 --> 00:28:36.062
well,

904
00:28:36.282 --> 00:28:40.785
why don't we get overtime in the long term is very detrimental,

905
00:28:41.206 --> 00:28:43.548
very detrimental quality of life for the employee,

906
00:28:43.668 --> 00:28:45.089
quality of life for the patient.

907
00:28:45.629 --> 00:28:49.172
And the malpractice that goes along with that and,

908
00:28:49.372 --> 00:28:49.713
you know,

909
00:28:50.093 --> 00:28:51.574
physically and everything else.

910
00:28:53.055 --> 00:28:54.216
So that's short term vision.

911
00:28:54.256 --> 00:28:54.437
Right.

912
00:28:54.438 --> 00:28:58.140
So now we're going to prevent the licensing from other states.

913
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:00.862
We're going to make them have to come within our state.

914
00:29:01.747 --> 00:29:06.211
get the training and take the test and take two years to get your license,

915
00:29:06.291 --> 00:29:07.452
even though you've been practicing,

916
00:29:07.453 --> 00:29:08.033
you're a nurse,

917
00:29:08.213 --> 00:29:10.916
a registered nurse for 30 years in another jurisdiction.

918
00:29:11.476 --> 00:29:12.998
We do that with the legal community,

919
00:29:14.840 --> 00:29:15.680
with attorneys,

920
00:29:16.061 --> 00:29:18.523
and then we do it in the medical community with doctors.

921
00:29:18.524 --> 00:29:21.827
We do it in the contractor community with builders.

922
00:29:22.007 --> 00:29:22.788
Yeah.

923
00:29:22.808 --> 00:29:24.289
And it's very,

924
00:29:24.549 --> 00:29:24.669
it's.

925
00:29:25.989 --> 00:29:29.132
And so I issue an executive order knowing all this,

926
00:29:29.512 --> 00:29:31.314
because that's one of our biggest issues,

927
00:29:31.414 --> 00:29:31.614
right?

928
00:29:31.674 --> 00:29:33.316
Licensing and speed of licensing,

929
00:29:33.356 --> 00:29:34.197
people get frustrated.

930
00:29:34.198 --> 00:29:34.997
I'm going somewhere else.

931
00:29:35.017 --> 00:29:35.758
I'm not doing that.

932
00:29:36.058 --> 00:29:38.500
I've been practicing medicine for 30 freaking years.

933
00:29:38.841 --> 00:29:39.121
All right.

934
00:29:39.141 --> 00:29:40.102
I can do your job.

935
00:29:40.843 --> 00:29:41.123
Right.

936
00:29:42.444 --> 00:29:43.885
So I issued an executive order.

937
00:29:43.925 --> 00:29:44.246
I said,

938
00:29:45.267 --> 00:29:47.088
all our licensure boards,

939
00:29:47.288 --> 00:29:47.609
I said,

940
00:29:47.969 --> 00:29:51.833
find a way to streamline it and how we can do that without legislative process.

941
00:29:52.582 --> 00:29:52.862
All right.

942
00:29:52.863 --> 00:29:54.964
So they've been going through the nuances of that,

943
00:29:55.024 --> 00:29:58.887
but you're dealing with the boards and the members of the boards are in that profession.

944
00:29:59.288 --> 00:29:59.648
All right.

945
00:29:59.668 --> 00:30:00.048
So they're,

946
00:30:00.088 --> 00:30:00.268
they're,

947
00:30:00.388 --> 00:30:01.189
they're pushing back.

948
00:30:01.209 --> 00:30:02.130
So it's insular,

949
00:30:02.390 --> 00:30:02.670
you know,

950
00:30:03.651 --> 00:30:06.293
and it's a proverbial dog chasing its tail.

951
00:30:06.513 --> 00:30:06.674
And,

952
00:30:07.215 --> 00:30:07.314
well,

953
00:30:07.315 --> 00:30:08.575
the fox is guarding the hen house.

954
00:30:08.695 --> 00:30:08.975
Yeah.

955
00:30:09.256 --> 00:30:09.596
So we're,

956
00:30:09.636 --> 00:30:09.816
we're,

957
00:30:09.936 --> 00:30:10.136
we're,

958
00:30:10.276 --> 00:30:10.497
we're,

959
00:30:10.917 --> 00:30:12.058
but we've made some strides,

960
00:30:12.118 --> 00:30:14.960
significant strides in all of that and all of that,

961
00:30:15.020 --> 00:30:15.681
because,

962
00:30:16.081 --> 00:30:16.341
you know,

963
00:30:16.662 --> 00:30:18.123
when you have a patient that takes her,

964
00:30:18.703 --> 00:30:20.084
takes him or her six,

965
00:30:20.164 --> 00:30:20.425
seven,

966
00:30:20.485 --> 00:30:20.605
eight,

967
00:30:20.665 --> 00:30:21.926
nine months to get an appointment.

968
00:30:22.182 --> 00:30:23.003
That's unacceptable.

969
00:30:23.983 --> 00:30:24.824
That's not a community.

970
00:30:27.265 --> 00:30:29.326
I want to pivot it for a second to education.

971
00:30:29.827 --> 00:30:30.487
Like I said before,

972
00:30:30.687 --> 00:30:31.688
I have three kids in school,

973
00:30:31.788 --> 00:30:32.708
all CCSD.

974
00:30:34.169 --> 00:30:37.891
And anybody that says that CCSD is bad,

975
00:30:38.512 --> 00:30:39.632
my pushback is always,

976
00:30:40.453 --> 00:30:41.253
you're a shitty parent.

977
00:30:42.034 --> 00:30:44.635
You need to take a more active role in how you parent your kids.

978
00:30:44.636 --> 00:30:44.756
Now,

979
00:30:44.776 --> 00:30:45.716
are all schools perfect?

980
00:30:45.776 --> 00:30:45.896
No.

981
00:30:46.697 --> 00:30:48.738
But is CCSD that bad?

982
00:30:50.114 --> 00:30:50.354
Again,

983
00:30:50.414 --> 00:30:53.657
I'm very active with my wife and I co-parent with my ex,

984
00:30:53.817 --> 00:30:55.158
with my kids.

985
00:30:55.198 --> 00:30:55.838
I'm not the ex.

986
00:30:55.918 --> 00:30:56.619
You pointed to me.

987
00:30:56.719 --> 00:30:57.079
I'm sorry.

988
00:30:57.219 --> 00:30:58.360
I'm over here going like this.

989
00:30:59.060 --> 00:31:00.001
Is Rebecca my ex?

990
00:31:00.381 --> 00:31:04.945
But it's like kids are doing well at Liberty,

991
00:31:04.985 --> 00:31:05.425
at LVA,

992
00:31:05.545 --> 00:31:08.988
Glenn Taylor are doing well and decent grades and good kids.

993
00:31:09.348 --> 00:31:11.309
But also it's proactively,

994
00:31:11.629 --> 00:31:12.410
what are you working on?

995
00:31:12.411 --> 00:31:13.331
What do you have going on?

996
00:31:13.771 --> 00:31:14.011
Now,

997
00:31:14.912 --> 00:31:16.233
is that every parent that way?

998
00:31:16.333 --> 00:31:16.453
No.

999
00:31:17.053 --> 00:31:17.754
But that's your

1000
00:31:18.174 --> 00:31:33.160
to do your responsibility as a parent to you're raising another human being that's your number one job is to make them better so i i think that i would agree with that it's overlooked a lot i would agree with that um in in the majority now

1001
00:31:33.180 --> 00:31:42.624
there's different nuansal issues people deal with single parents right and you know the parent works graveyard and you know whatever the need to get by in life.

1002
00:31:43.164 --> 00:31:44.144
But overall,

1003
00:31:44.385 --> 00:31:46.485
I agree with you.

1004
00:31:48.358 --> 00:31:51.080
product of public education here in Las Vegas,

1005
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:51.340
right?

1006
00:31:51.341 --> 00:31:52.381
I went to Rancho High School.

1007
00:31:52.822 --> 00:31:54.423
That's a long time ago.

1008
00:31:54.763 --> 00:31:54.903
Yeah,

1009
00:31:54.904 --> 00:31:55.224
it was.

1010
00:31:56.805 --> 00:31:58.166
But

1011
00:31:58.506 --> 00:31:59.287
I think you're right.

1012
00:31:59.367 --> 00:31:59.627
I mean,

1013
00:32:00.028 --> 00:32:01.309
in any organization,

1014
00:32:02.109 --> 00:32:03.090
people are going to find fault,

1015
00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:03.470
right?

1016
00:32:04.111 --> 00:32:06.713
You go in a restaurant and you ask four people coming out the door,

1017
00:32:06.793 --> 00:32:07.574
was the food good?

1018
00:32:07.634 --> 00:32:08.374
Three will say yes.

1019
00:32:08.375 --> 00:32:09.455
The other one said it was terrible,

1020
00:32:09.635 --> 00:32:09.876
right?

1021
00:32:09.896 --> 00:32:11.757
The service was terrible or whatever it may be.

1022
00:32:12.518 --> 00:32:14.319
In any aspect of life,

1023
00:32:14.339 --> 00:32:15.060
you could say that.

1024
00:32:15.260 --> 00:32:15.380
And,

1025
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:15.720
you know,

1026
00:32:15.721 --> 00:32:16.661
a business model,

1027
00:32:16.701 --> 00:32:17.322
whatever it is.

1028
00:32:17.722 --> 00:32:19.923
You're always going to have the people that you can't satisfy.

1029
00:32:19.943 --> 00:32:21.324
You'll never satisfy 100%.

1030
00:32:22.404 --> 00:32:24.365
You're lucky if you can get to 51%.

1031
00:32:25.225 --> 00:32:33.369
So the excuses that are given from poor parenting is a crutch for them to say it's the education system,

1032
00:32:33.769 --> 00:32:34.029
right?

1033
00:32:35.470 --> 00:32:37.711
But there are also issues with the education system.

1034
00:32:37.712 --> 00:32:37.931
You know,

1035
00:32:37.932 --> 00:32:39.211
we had teacher ratios.

1036
00:32:39.251 --> 00:32:39.491
You know,

1037
00:32:39.751 --> 00:32:45.594
kids were being taught by substitute teachers that didn't have certifications because of the lack of teachers.

1038
00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:47.631
A lot of vacancy factors,

1039
00:32:47.691 --> 00:32:47.951
you know,

1040
00:32:48.472 --> 00:32:49.673
environment factors,

1041
00:32:49.733 --> 00:32:53.615
too many kids in a class and all those things that go along with it.

1042
00:32:54.816 --> 00:32:57.098
And but you're right.

1043
00:32:57.278 --> 00:33:03.102
I think public education is fantastic and kids can make whatever they want of a situation.

1044
00:33:04.042 --> 00:33:04.283
You know,

1045
00:33:04.323 --> 00:33:06.604
now they're now they're even talking about the rhetoric,

1046
00:33:06.605 --> 00:33:08.706
especially in the system of higher education,

1047
00:33:08.826 --> 00:33:09.606
university system.

1048
00:33:09.746 --> 00:33:10.687
Are they antiquated?

1049
00:33:10.787 --> 00:33:11.728
Are they obsolete?

1050
00:33:12.268 --> 00:33:14.510
Are they nothing more than sports franchises?

1051
00:33:14.650 --> 00:33:14.930
Right.

1052
00:33:16.190 --> 00:33:16.410
you know,

1053
00:33:16.411 --> 00:33:17.851
because you can get on

1054
00:33:18.271 --> 00:33:20.071
AI and educate yourself.

1055
00:33:20.551 --> 00:33:23.672
But the problem is you don't have any discipline when you're in your own home,

1056
00:33:23.692 --> 00:33:24.432
in your office,

1057
00:33:24.853 --> 00:33:25.093
you know,

1058
00:33:25.373 --> 00:33:31.014
and the teacher not standing over you and making sure that you're in a learning environment.

1059
00:33:31.094 --> 00:33:35.255
So there's a lot of nuancel stuff in education.

1060
00:33:35.315 --> 00:33:35.536
I mean,

1061
00:33:35.556 --> 00:33:36.456
as a parent now,

1062
00:33:36.596 --> 00:33:36.836
I mean,

1063
00:33:36.876 --> 00:33:37.816
I've got a 14-year-old,

1064
00:33:37.856 --> 00:33:39.957
so college is starting to be the conversation.

1065
00:33:40.517 --> 00:33:43.498
And I'm questioning whether that's the right pathway at this point.

1066
00:33:44.218 --> 00:33:44.338
is

1067
00:33:44.718 --> 00:33:48.361
And so I've actually sat down with Xander and had conversations with him just saying,

1068
00:33:48.822 --> 00:33:49.002
like,

1069
00:33:49.342 --> 00:33:53.746
you need to pick a degree that's actually going to earn you a living.

1070
00:33:54.086 --> 00:33:54.266
Right.

1071
00:33:54.907 --> 00:34:01.772
The goal is to be a functioning human that gives back to society,

1072
00:34:01.832 --> 00:34:03.213
that contributes to society.

1073
00:34:03.534 --> 00:34:04.935
And it's not just about getting a job.

1074
00:34:05.015 --> 00:34:06.556
I want you to make jobs.

1075
00:34:06.576 --> 00:34:07.917
Your dad and I make jobs.

1076
00:34:08.158 --> 00:34:08.418
Right.

1077
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:10.359
You want to build.

1078
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:11.260
You want to be creative.

1079
00:34:11.261 --> 00:34:13.202
And I don't know if college teaches that.

1080
00:34:13.402 --> 00:34:17.085
Because I remember it was all about regurgitation until I got to my master's.

1081
00:34:17.185 --> 00:34:17.945
Then they were like,

1082
00:34:18.085 --> 00:34:18.285
oh,

1083
00:34:18.445 --> 00:34:19.666
now you can critically think.

1084
00:34:20.147 --> 00:34:20.267
Oh,

1085
00:34:20.268 --> 00:34:20.387
well,

1086
00:34:20.447 --> 00:34:21.207
thank you so much.

1087
00:34:21.828 --> 00:34:23.369
You're exactly right,

1088
00:34:23.389 --> 00:34:23.949
Danielle.

1089
00:34:24.670 --> 00:34:26.671
I just saw a stat that 75%

1090
00:34:26.991 --> 00:34:31.014
of all the billionaires in the world were non-employees.

1091
00:34:31.815 --> 00:34:32.755
They were entrepreneurs,

1092
00:34:33.716 --> 00:34:33.996
right?

1093
00:34:34.757 --> 00:34:34.997
And,

1094
00:34:35.998 --> 00:34:36.518
you know,

1095
00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:36.638
you...

1096
00:34:40.338 --> 00:34:42.143
Especially in the system of higher education,

1097
00:34:44.068 --> 00:34:46.333
it's a sterile environment you're learning.

1098
00:34:47.539 --> 00:34:49.680
What is the saying they always say about your professor?

1099
00:34:50.302 --> 00:34:51.243
Those that can't do,

1100
00:34:51.503 --> 00:34:52.624
teach kind of thing.

1101
00:34:52.664 --> 00:34:58.409
And they get tenure in the university system and they're well paid and everything else.

1102
00:34:58.428 --> 00:34:58.548
And

1103
00:34:59.789 --> 00:35:01.390
I'll push back on one thing you said,

1104
00:35:01.410 --> 00:35:01.691
Daniel.

1105
00:35:01.691 --> 00:35:02.012
You said,

1106
00:35:02.631 --> 00:35:06.294
what is the whole goal is to contribute to society and everything.

1107
00:35:06.575 --> 00:35:07.796
I think it's twofold,

1108
00:35:07.816 --> 00:35:07.997
though.

1109
00:35:08.017 --> 00:35:08.816
You've got to be selfish,

1110
00:35:08.856 --> 00:35:09.017
too.

1111
00:35:10.078 --> 00:35:13.220
I want something that'll prosper me in life.

1112
00:35:13.261 --> 00:35:13.740
Yeah.

1113
00:35:13.742 --> 00:35:15.363
And then eventually my family in life,

1114
00:35:15.403 --> 00:35:15.582
too.

1115
00:35:16.662 --> 00:35:18.064
I think it's a combination of all that.

1116
00:35:18.064 --> 00:35:18.184
Yeah,

1117
00:35:18.185 --> 00:35:19.704
I selfishly don't want to pay for them anymore.

1118
00:35:19.905 --> 00:35:21.986
Yeah,

1119
00:35:21.986 --> 00:35:22.226
yeah,

1120
00:35:22.227 --> 00:35:22.706
exactly.

1121
00:35:22.805 --> 00:35:24.267
But let me back up on that.

1122
00:35:24.787 --> 00:35:25.887
To build off what she said,

1123
00:35:25.887 --> 00:35:28.488
it says you need to determine.

1124
00:35:28.887 --> 00:35:29.709
And here's the problem.

1125
00:35:30.869 --> 00:35:31.430
They're 18,

1126
00:35:32.610 --> 00:35:33.970
and it's hard for them to determine,

1127
00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:34.291
right?

1128
00:35:34.870 --> 00:35:36.691
You hear it more and more and more,

1129
00:35:39.053 --> 00:35:39.293
you know,

1130
00:35:39.673 --> 00:35:43.213
how old kids become before they finally find their path,

1131
00:35:43.215 --> 00:35:43.454
right?

1132
00:35:43.715 --> 00:35:44.255
you get kids

1133
00:35:44.575 --> 00:35:45.115
they're 18,

1134
00:35:45.135 --> 00:35:45.715
19,

1135
00:35:45.716 --> 00:35:45.856
20,

1136
00:35:45.856 --> 00:35:47.115
don't even have a driver's license,

1137
00:35:47.176 --> 00:35:47.416
right?

1138
00:35:47.995 --> 00:35:49.517
Because society's changing,

1139
00:35:49.816 --> 00:35:50.578
there's no fault in it,

1140
00:35:50.579 --> 00:35:51.957
but they got to be able to find their path.

1141
00:35:52.557 --> 00:35:53.099
And now,

1142
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:53.798
you know,

1143
00:35:53.819 --> 00:35:56.939
you could come out of school with 200,

1144
00:35:56.979 --> 00:35:58.700
$300,000 in student loan debt,

1145
00:35:59.160 --> 00:35:59.421
right?

1146
00:36:00.822 --> 00:36:04.063
You made that decision to take on that debt and go down that path,

1147
00:36:04.383 --> 00:36:05.963
but it may be a path to where you're,

1148
00:36:06.423 --> 00:36:06.684
you know,

1149
00:36:07.264 --> 00:36:07.604
whatever,

1150
00:36:07.905 --> 00:36:08.865
I'll just use a random word,

1151
00:36:08.905 --> 00:36:09.345
counselor,

1152
00:36:10.006 --> 00:36:13.447
that is not paying you enough to ever you

1153
00:36:13.642 --> 00:36:16.164
pay off those student loans or give you a quality of life.

1154
00:36:16.906 --> 00:36:17.066
Yeah,

1155
00:36:17.166 --> 00:36:19.148
but you can get an internship,

1156
00:36:19.747 --> 00:36:20.008
you know,

1157
00:36:20.008 --> 00:36:24.332
right out of high school or even during high school now and become a welder,

1158
00:36:24.332 --> 00:36:24.852
a plumber,

1159
00:36:24.852 --> 00:36:26.133
a carpenter and everything else.

1160
00:36:26.573 --> 00:36:29.756
And the wages that go along with that and the quality of life is improving.

1161
00:36:30.796 --> 00:36:32.678
You just described my life and marriage.

1162
00:36:32.879 --> 00:36:33.139
Right.

1163
00:36:33.399 --> 00:36:33.560
Right.

1164
00:36:33.580 --> 00:36:41.106
I had my master's in marriage and family therapy and then I'm getting paid $35,000 a year living in San Francisco.

1165
00:36:41.787 --> 00:36:42.167
I can't.

1166
00:36:42.327 --> 00:36:43.267
And then I meet Paul,

1167
00:36:43.648 --> 00:36:45.048
who has a high school degree,

1168
00:36:45.309 --> 00:36:49.892
but he's a contractor and he's making three to four times the amount of money that I'm making.

1169
00:36:50.273 --> 00:36:50.733
And I was like,

1170
00:36:50.793 --> 00:36:51.494
screw this.

1171
00:36:51.854 --> 00:36:52.814
So by the time I was 30,

1172
00:36:52.854 --> 00:36:54.015
I went into real estate.

1173
00:36:54.136 --> 00:36:55.837
I couldn't make enough money as a counselor.

1174
00:36:56.438 --> 00:36:56.658
Right.

1175
00:36:56.997 --> 00:36:58.959
It depends on what quality of life you want to have,

1176
00:36:58.999 --> 00:36:59.160
too,

1177
00:36:59.240 --> 00:36:59.399
right?

1178
00:36:59.640 --> 00:36:59.760
And,

1179
00:36:59.899 --> 00:37:00.680
you know,

1180
00:37:00.682 --> 00:37:01.160
I'm a product,

1181
00:37:01.180 --> 00:37:01.321
too.

1182
00:37:01.381 --> 00:37:02.562
So I go to school.

1183
00:37:02.762 --> 00:37:04.524
I end up going to higher education.

1184
00:37:04.564 --> 00:37:05.764
I become a civil engineer.

1185
00:37:05.825 --> 00:37:08.265
I work as a civil engineer out in Garden Grove,

1186
00:37:08.305 --> 00:37:08.867
California.

1187
00:37:11.466 --> 00:37:11.927
And I looked,

1188
00:37:11.947 --> 00:37:12.247
I said,

1189
00:37:12.648 --> 00:37:14.569
am I going to be able to buy a house here ever?

1190
00:37:15.249 --> 00:37:17.350
Am I going to live in this apartment forever and everything else?

1191
00:37:17.691 --> 00:37:18.691
And then fortunately,

1192
00:37:19.011 --> 00:37:23.814
I go do a ride along with my buddies back here in Vegas where I came from who are police officers now.

1193
00:37:23.834 --> 00:37:24.073
I said,

1194
00:37:24.173 --> 00:37:24.314
oh,

1195
00:37:24.334 --> 00:37:25.015
I want to do this.

1196
00:37:25.255 --> 00:37:26.916
It wasn't because of the dollar.

1197
00:37:27.276 --> 00:37:31.298
It was because of the adrenaline and excitement and enjoyment of the job.

1198
00:37:31.859 --> 00:37:32.959
And I've never looked back.

1199
00:37:33.178 --> 00:37:33.439
Right.

1200
00:37:33.919 --> 00:37:34.600
And I've come.

1201
00:37:36.501 --> 00:37:38.823
I thought I would be here in life at 63.

1202
00:37:38.823 --> 00:37:39.182
I'm here.

1203
00:37:39.803 --> 00:37:40.223
And I'm like,

1204
00:37:40.243 --> 00:37:40.504
geez,

1205
00:37:40.524 --> 00:37:41.343
I surprised myself.

1206
00:37:42.785 --> 00:37:45.285
But it wasn't as a result of formal education.

1207
00:37:45.287 --> 00:37:46.307
It wasn't secondary.

1208
00:37:47.868 --> 00:37:51.169
I don't want to take away from higher education because it helps you expand your mind,

1209
00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:51.470
right?

1210
00:37:51.709 --> 00:37:56.232
It gives you a different outlook on different things and conceptualize it and understand it and everything else,

1211
00:37:56.432 --> 00:37:57.973
especially in economics.

1212
00:37:58.854 --> 00:38:04.977
But we need to provide options.

1213
00:38:04.977 --> 00:38:05.097
Yes.

1214
00:38:06.118 --> 00:38:07.959
And those options can't be based off.

1215
00:38:08.551 --> 00:38:10.832
whether it's $15 an hour versus,

1216
00:38:11.032 --> 00:38:11.273
you know,

1217
00:38:11.352 --> 00:38:11.972
$35.

1218
00:38:12.892 --> 00:38:14.553
If you look at skilled labor,

1219
00:38:14.894 --> 00:38:15.135
I mean,

1220
00:38:15.215 --> 00:38:17.575
everyone should be all in right now on plumbers,

1221
00:38:17.995 --> 00:38:19.017
electricians,

1222
00:38:19.517 --> 00:38:20.037
HVAC,

1223
00:38:20.658 --> 00:38:22.159
because if you look at AI,

1224
00:38:22.258 --> 00:38:22.899
what's going on,

1225
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:23.800
in my opinion,

1226
00:38:23.820 --> 00:38:24.999
this isn't your opinion,

1227
00:38:25.020 --> 00:38:25.801
this is just mine,

1228
00:38:25.802 --> 00:38:26.921
but 20 years from now,

1229
00:38:27.120 --> 00:38:27.642
doctors,

1230
00:38:28.021 --> 00:38:28.502
lawyers,

1231
00:38:28.762 --> 00:38:29.142
gone.

1232
00:38:29.543 --> 00:38:31.164
There's going to be AI doing it.

1233
00:38:31.224 --> 00:38:32.664
Elon Musk was just on

1234
00:38:33.145 --> 00:38:34.225
Joe Rogan said,

1235
00:38:34.244 --> 00:38:34.385
hey,

1236
00:38:34.785 --> 00:38:37.006
Grok can read your blood panel.

1237
00:38:37.267 --> 00:38:38.267
better than any doctor.

1238
00:38:40.109 --> 00:38:42.229
I upload all of my medical stuff into

1239
00:38:42.869 --> 00:38:43.930
AI and it gives me,

1240
00:38:44.390 --> 00:38:45.912
I have a complete thing now it does for me.

1241
00:38:46.631 --> 00:38:47.392
All my imaging,

1242
00:38:47.912 --> 00:38:48.753
back x-rays,

1243
00:38:48.814 --> 00:38:49.633
CT scans,

1244
00:38:49.774 --> 00:38:50.073
all that.

1245
00:38:50.075 --> 00:38:51.374
It's immediate.

1246
00:38:51.414 --> 00:38:52.515
I get stuff diagnosed.

1247
00:38:52.575 --> 00:38:53.356
Do you mind if we stop?

1248
00:38:53.816 --> 00:38:53.936
No,

1249
00:38:54.017 --> 00:38:54.296
not at all.

1250
00:38:54.298 --> 00:38:54.957
I got to use the restroom.

1251
00:38:54.957 --> 00:38:55.336
Go right ahead.

1252
00:38:56.698 --> 00:38:57.738
I don't know if you have to.

1253
00:38:58.418 --> 00:38:58.539
No,

1254
00:38:58.619 --> 00:38:58.979
you're fine.

1255
00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:00.180
We'll cut it out.

1256
00:39:02.021 --> 00:39:02.921
To the right.

1257
00:39:04.602 --> 00:39:05.023
Am I doing?

1258
00:39:11.102 --> 00:39:11.642
He's old.

1259
00:39:13.444 --> 00:39:14.544
It just is what it is.

1260
00:39:19.106 --> 00:39:20.245
He's loosening up now.

1261
00:39:21.325 --> 00:39:24.207
Yeah.

1262
00:39:24.207 --> 00:39:24.566
I was like,

1263
00:39:24.586 --> 00:39:26.168
he's just being reserved right now.

1264
00:39:26.169 --> 00:39:27.328
He doesn't know this guy,

1265
00:39:28.189 --> 00:39:28.528
you know.

1266
00:39:29.709 --> 00:39:30.349
Great.

1267
00:39:30.389 --> 00:39:31.789
But now he's getting excited.

1268
00:39:32.090 --> 00:39:35.311
And we're talking about stuff that's different and stuff we did not hear over the last.

1269
00:39:37.463 --> 00:39:38.004
I was like,

1270
00:39:38.024 --> 00:39:39.686
I was talking on the phone with Charlie on the way here.

1271
00:39:40.106 --> 00:39:40.627
And she's like,

1272
00:39:41.168 --> 00:39:43.071
please make sure he gets off his talking points.

1273
00:39:43.091 --> 00:39:44.352
I'm so tired of hearing them.

1274
00:39:44.412 --> 00:39:47.537
That's why I mean,

1275
00:39:47.856 --> 00:39:48.859
I love you.

1276
00:39:49.460 --> 00:39:52.663
I'm not going to look at any questions because with all due respect,

1277
00:39:52.703 --> 00:39:57.427
it's like I've been doing this long enough that I know how to bring out the best in people in a sincere way.

1278
00:39:58.088 --> 00:40:00.250
That just kind of navigate stuff and go.

1279
00:40:00.550 --> 00:40:01.571
And I have some talking points.

1280
00:40:01.631 --> 00:40:03.052
It's just like this.

1281
00:40:03.092 --> 00:40:04.213
And what do you think about this?

1282
00:40:04.253 --> 00:40:07.556
And that was the point.

1283
00:40:07.557 --> 00:40:07.796
Remember,

1284
00:40:07.797 --> 00:40:08.597
we talked on the phone.

1285
00:40:08.598 --> 00:40:08.897
I'm like,

1286
00:40:08.937 --> 00:40:10.539
let's just bring out a different side of him.

1287
00:40:11.219 --> 00:40:12.160
That's the coolest part.

1288
00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:12.881
And I mean,

1289
00:40:13.221 --> 00:40:13.942
honestly,

1290
00:40:14.382 --> 00:40:15.143
whatever you guys want,

1291
00:40:15.203 --> 00:40:16.104
I'll come back and do stuff.

1292
00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:17.380
12 times a year,

1293
00:40:17.460 --> 00:40:17.781
whatever,

1294
00:40:17.861 --> 00:40:18.361
once a quarter.

1295
00:40:18.501 --> 00:40:18.641
Yeah.

1296
00:40:18.821 --> 00:40:19.401
Just to be like,

1297
00:40:19.942 --> 00:40:20.122
hey,

1298
00:40:20.162 --> 00:40:20.362
man,

1299
00:40:21.363 --> 00:40:23.184
give me the topics to say,

1300
00:40:23.244 --> 00:40:23.384
hey,

1301
00:40:23.644 --> 00:40:24.064
these are like,

1302
00:40:24.084 --> 00:40:24.424
get more.

1303
00:40:24.444 --> 00:40:28.206
And this teacher.

1304
00:40:28.207 --> 00:40:29.247
Yeah.

1305
00:40:29.447 --> 00:40:32.048
Yeah.

1306
00:40:32.049 --> 00:40:32.209
You know,

1307
00:40:32.210 --> 00:40:34.530
we could do is like do remote like Hanks and Dirty Martini.

1308
00:40:35.911 --> 00:40:36.551
That's not to know.

1309
00:40:36.591 --> 00:40:37.111
That's not his.

1310
00:40:37.311 --> 00:40:38.112
He likes dive bars.

1311
00:40:38.532 --> 00:40:38.932
He does.

1312
00:40:39.453 --> 00:40:39.573
OK,

1313
00:40:39.713 --> 00:40:40.133
we're going to check.

1314
00:40:40.173 --> 00:40:40.333
Yeah.

1315
00:40:40.353 --> 00:40:40.593
Done.

1316
00:40:42.894 --> 00:40:43.695
We should do it at

1317
00:40:44.155 --> 00:40:45.436
Genoa Bar next time.

1318
00:40:46.272 --> 00:40:47.293
What's that?

1319
00:40:47.294 --> 00:40:49.694
The next podcast we should do at a Genoa bar.

1320
00:40:50.375 --> 00:40:52.816
Part two of this will be at a dive bar of your choice.

1321
00:40:53.957 --> 00:40:55.177
Why would you use that word,

1322
00:40:55.257 --> 00:40:55.738
dive bar?

1323
00:40:55.898 --> 00:40:59.960
Let's say a bar that accommodates the everyman.

1324
00:41:00.621 --> 00:41:01.621
And we're all in t-shirts.

1325
00:41:04.743 --> 00:41:04.963
Good?

1326
00:41:07.024 --> 00:41:07.845
I was waiting.

1327
00:41:07.965 --> 00:41:08.145
Sorry.

1328
00:41:08.625 --> 00:41:08.886
Sorry,

1329
00:41:09.386 --> 00:41:09.626
Scott.

1330
00:41:09.627 --> 00:41:10.607
You know she hates direction,

1331
00:41:10.687 --> 00:41:10.947
Scott.

1332
00:41:10.948 --> 00:41:11.447
I know.

1333
00:41:11.448 --> 00:41:12.728
We all know she hates direction.

1334
00:41:13.024 --> 00:41:13.644
Because I'm.

1335
00:41:13.645 --> 00:41:15.005
She's not close enough to the microphone.

1336
00:41:15.085 --> 00:41:16.066
It drives Scott crazy.

1337
00:41:17.807 --> 00:41:18.488
Are we back on?

1338
00:41:18.628 --> 00:41:18.748
Yeah,

1339
00:41:18.749 --> 00:41:19.008
we're good.

1340
00:41:19.549 --> 00:41:21.110
So just to build off that a little bit,

1341
00:41:21.111 --> 00:41:23.111
we were talking about AI and all that.

1342
00:41:24.012 --> 00:41:24.872
But you can see,

1343
00:41:25.813 --> 00:41:29.896
you can see in short order that there'll be a separation,

1344
00:41:30.056 --> 00:41:30.276
right?

1345
00:41:30.576 --> 00:41:32.017
You know how you hear about societies,

1346
00:41:32.037 --> 00:41:32.798
different societies,

1347
00:41:32.799 --> 00:41:33.018
you know,

1348
00:41:33.038 --> 00:41:33.658
there's a,

1349
00:41:33.659 --> 00:41:36.260
there's a upper class and a lower class.

1350
00:41:36.261 --> 00:41:37.221
There's no middle class.

1351
00:41:37.761 --> 00:41:40.463
And I think that's what's starting to be created.

1352
00:41:40.623 --> 00:41:40.743
Well,

1353
00:41:40.803 --> 00:41:42.084
middle class is always going to.

1354
00:41:42.696 --> 00:41:48.562
because of the trades and they're moving up into the stature of financial wherewithal.

1355
00:41:48.682 --> 00:41:56.029
But it's definitely a game changer.

1356
00:41:56.110 --> 00:41:56.850
It's wild.

1357
00:41:56.890 --> 00:41:58.832
What it's going to look like in 10 years.

1358
00:41:58.952 --> 00:41:59.253
Well,

1359
00:41:59.293 --> 00:42:00.294
actually five years.

1360
00:42:01.135 --> 00:42:01.935
What it's going to look like.

1361
00:42:02.736 --> 00:42:05.399
What trades are the most important versus what,

1362
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:06.380
you know.

1363
00:42:08.033 --> 00:42:09.734
You see they're getting rid of programmers,

1364
00:42:09.794 --> 00:42:09.975
right?

1365
00:42:10.035 --> 00:42:11.796
Software is taking care of programmers.

1366
00:42:11.856 --> 00:42:13.298
AI is taking care of programs.

1367
00:42:13.618 --> 00:42:17.741
So all those traditional white-collar jobs are starting to fade away,

1368
00:42:17.742 --> 00:42:21.725
and they're starting to retrain and reevaluate and do different things.

1369
00:42:21.726 --> 00:42:23.046
And I think we'll adjust.

1370
00:42:23.747 --> 00:42:26.109
I don't think AI is the evil boogeyman.

1371
00:42:28.050 --> 00:42:29.852
I think society will make adjustments.

1372
00:42:30.252 --> 00:42:31.553
When I walk out of the house now,

1373
00:42:32.374 --> 00:42:33.175
in everything now,

1374
00:42:33.195 --> 00:42:34.296
I look through the lens of,

1375
00:42:34.496 --> 00:42:35.736
is AI going to be doing that?

1376
00:42:35.776 --> 00:42:42.078
Is there going to be an optimist robot at Earth Cafe serving me my coffee in another five years?

1377
00:42:42.218 --> 00:42:43.779
Is this going to be something that's going to be automated?

1378
00:42:43.879 --> 00:42:45.119
And I think so.

1379
00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:46.720
That's just progress.

1380
00:42:47.180 --> 00:42:47.440
You know,

1381
00:42:47.720 --> 00:42:50.061
when John Deere came out with the tractor in the early

1382
00:42:50.921 --> 00:42:52.942
1900s and no more oxen with the plow,

1383
00:42:53.282 --> 00:42:54.842
we all adapted to that.

1384
00:42:54.882 --> 00:42:55.623
We all got better.

1385
00:42:55.643 --> 00:42:56.603
We all figured it out.

1386
00:42:57.163 --> 00:43:00.024
And I think that's the approach we have to have with artificial intelligence.

1387
00:43:00.368 --> 00:43:01.188
We have to adapt.

1388
00:43:01.368 --> 00:43:06.650
One thing I think with the trades that we probably should keep our eye on is that they are good with their hands.

1389
00:43:06.670 --> 00:43:07.010
And listen,

1390
00:43:07.030 --> 00:43:12.351
I deal with this because the biggest frustration in my marriage is my husband's accounting with his construction business,

1391
00:43:12.411 --> 00:43:12.631
right?

1392
00:43:12.891 --> 00:43:14.212
He is bad with accounting.

1393
00:43:14.772 --> 00:43:20.073
And so teaching within the trades how to account for your books,

1394
00:43:20.133 --> 00:43:21.594
how to keep track of your tools.

1395
00:43:21.854 --> 00:43:23.834
Because when you build a house,

1396
00:43:23.854 --> 00:43:29.236
when you think about how many little you can't inventory all of that from the nuts and the bolts.

1397
00:43:29.644 --> 00:43:30.385
to the big stuff,

1398
00:43:30.465 --> 00:43:30.625
right?

1399
00:43:30.665 --> 00:43:31.626
To the appliances.

1400
00:43:31.986 --> 00:43:34.708
And so it's taken me

1401
00:43:35.569 --> 00:43:39.272
10 years to get a handle on his behavior,

1402
00:43:39.573 --> 00:43:41.194
which is frustrating at times.

1403
00:43:42.095 --> 00:43:42.816
It's called marriage.

1404
00:43:42.896 --> 00:43:44.057
Just use the same credit card,

1405
00:43:44.097 --> 00:43:44.337
Paul,

1406
00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:50.783
to being able to dial it in so that we can have clean books.

1407
00:43:50.823 --> 00:43:56.888
And I think that's going to be something that we probably need to provide some support as the trades get more robust.

1408
00:43:57.544 --> 00:43:57.664
Yeah,

1409
00:43:57.704 --> 00:43:58.185
absolutely.

1410
00:43:58.225 --> 00:43:58.445
I mean,

1411
00:43:58.625 --> 00:44:00.767
there's going to be support mechanisms in everything we do,

1412
00:44:00.987 --> 00:44:01.227
right?

1413
00:44:01.788 --> 00:44:02.108
And so,

1414
00:44:02.128 --> 00:44:02.388
you know,

1415
00:44:02.848 --> 00:44:04.350
examples when we're growing up,

1416
00:44:04.450 --> 00:44:04.670
right,

1417
00:44:04.671 --> 00:44:05.270
and you're going,

1418
00:44:05.271 --> 00:44:06.311
am I going to go to college or not?

1419
00:44:06.571 --> 00:44:09.153
And then you look at what am I going to study in college?

1420
00:44:09.274 --> 00:44:09.814
You know,

1421
00:44:09.974 --> 00:44:12.016
what is a personal interest and what is reality,

1422
00:44:12.116 --> 00:44:12.316
right?

1423
00:44:12.856 --> 00:44:14.678
And they always come out with those lists,

1424
00:44:14.738 --> 00:44:14.918
right?

1425
00:44:14.958 --> 00:44:15.959
Forbes magazine,

1426
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.563
the top 10 professions to go to college for for the future,

1427
00:44:21.043 --> 00:44:21.263
right?

1428
00:44:21.323 --> 00:44:23.045
And that just changes over time.

1429
00:44:23.105 --> 00:44:23.245
Yeah,

1430
00:44:23.645 --> 00:44:24.045
it does.

1431
00:44:24.406 --> 00:44:27.068
We are going to see a tectonic shift in.

1432
00:44:27.444 --> 00:44:29.585
That type of list very soon.

1433
00:44:29.685 --> 00:44:29.865
Yeah.

1434
00:44:30.245 --> 00:44:30.865
Very soon.

1435
00:44:31.105 --> 00:44:31.465
And

1436
00:44:32.306 --> 00:44:35.187
I'm having to talk with my daughter about college.

1437
00:44:35.227 --> 00:44:35.947
And luckily,

1438
00:44:36.087 --> 00:44:37.147
she's a straight-A student.

1439
00:44:37.187 --> 00:44:37.968
She's looking at UNLV.

1440
00:44:38.408 --> 00:44:39.008
Go Rebels.

1441
00:44:39.168 --> 00:44:41.529
And so she'll get a scholarship and go there.

1442
00:44:41.549 --> 00:44:42.629
But she told me the other day,

1443
00:44:42.789 --> 00:44:43.389
archaeology.

1444
00:44:43.489 --> 00:44:43.829
And I went,

1445
00:44:44.090 --> 00:44:44.990
are you fucking kidding me?

1446
00:44:46.770 --> 00:44:47.591
Archaeofuckingology?

1447
00:44:48.071 --> 00:44:48.291
Honey,

1448
00:44:48.591 --> 00:44:50.752
I love you with the heat of a thousand suns,

1449
00:44:50.812 --> 00:44:51.292
but there's no...

1450
00:44:51.572 --> 00:44:54.016
goddamn way you're going to UNLV for archaeology.

1451
00:44:54.076 --> 00:44:54.417
I don't know.

1452
00:44:54.437 --> 00:44:57.902
There's a ton of dinosaur bones from here to Elko.

1453
00:44:58.142 --> 00:44:58.583
There's like...

1454
00:45:03.150 --> 00:45:03.531
But you know,

1455
00:45:03.831 --> 00:45:04.853
the thing about college,

1456
00:45:04.993 --> 00:45:05.374
you know,

1457
00:45:05.394 --> 00:45:06.195
in a year or two,

1458
00:45:06.255 --> 00:45:06.656
you could go...

1459
00:45:07.502 --> 00:45:28.898
what am i doing this for absolutely right it's like wait a minute how much am i gonna make what where do i gotta live you know that that kind of stuff you know a lot of it's because of lack of knowledge and you want to experience go forth fail go fail it's okay but it's coming back from that right you know it's i i love it it's like i love when people on the show here where it's you

1460
00:45:29.034 --> 00:45:30.454
Tell me about when you got punched in the gut,

1461
00:45:30.514 --> 00:45:30.754
man.

1462
00:45:30.955 --> 00:45:31.495
What happened?

1463
00:45:31.535 --> 00:45:32.315
How did that feel?

1464
00:45:32.815 --> 00:45:34.135
And you're losing sleep,

1465
00:45:34.255 --> 00:45:35.136
and you're just like,

1466
00:45:35.156 --> 00:45:36.236
you're trying to make ends meet.

1467
00:45:36.336 --> 00:45:37.496
How did you get through that?

1468
00:45:37.976 --> 00:45:38.577
What is it?

1469
00:45:38.657 --> 00:45:41.277
And that's why I asked about with you with public speaking for the first time.

1470
00:45:41.617 --> 00:45:41.778
Like,

1471
00:45:41.779 --> 00:45:43.338
what was that thing inside of you that you're like,

1472
00:45:43.638 --> 00:45:43.818
okay,

1473
00:45:43.858 --> 00:45:44.078
Joe,

1474
00:45:44.318 --> 00:45:44.958
get the fuck up.

1475
00:45:45.259 --> 00:45:45.959
Put your boots on.

1476
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:46.659
You've got to go.

1477
00:45:47.179 --> 00:45:47.899
This is what you're going to do.

1478
00:45:48.619 --> 00:45:48.759
Right?

1479
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:49.560
With all due respect,

1480
00:45:49.561 --> 00:45:49.900
it's like,

1481
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:52.480
I love hearing things like that.

1482
00:45:52.521 --> 00:45:53.881
And I think my audience does as well,

1483
00:45:53.882 --> 00:45:54.961
and people do as well.

1484
00:45:55.821 --> 00:45:57.662
We've become so fractionalized.

1485
00:45:58.050 --> 00:46:02.532
Especially in the podcasting business with hot takes and you got to have a clip that goes viral and everything else.

1486
00:46:02.932 --> 00:46:05.813
How about just having a conversation with somebody and just shooting the shit?

1487
00:46:05.893 --> 00:46:06.954
And if something goes viral,

1488
00:46:07.054 --> 00:46:07.314
okay,

1489
00:46:07.414 --> 00:46:09.255
but you're not doing it for virality.

1490
00:46:09.655 --> 00:46:11.576
It's more just for because I respect you.

1491
00:46:12.316 --> 00:46:13.416
I love and respect you.

1492
00:46:13.837 --> 00:46:17.418
So let's just have a conversation and talk about what we feel.

1493
00:46:18.599 --> 00:46:20.519
I'm not going to be everyone's cup of tea,

1494
00:46:20.919 --> 00:46:25.461
but I know that I'm confident what I'm saying and what both of you are saying.

1495
00:46:26.062 --> 00:46:26.822
That's all.

1496
00:46:27.338 --> 00:46:29.359
And it'd be nicer if more of us thought that way.

1497
00:46:29.939 --> 00:46:32.800
It would be nice if more people had conversations.

1498
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:33.660
You think?

1499
00:46:33.661 --> 00:46:34.900
Instead of like assumptions.

1500
00:46:35.200 --> 00:46:35.400
Yeah.

1501
00:46:35.401 --> 00:46:35.660
I mean.

1502
00:46:35.680 --> 00:46:36.281
So that's fine.

1503
00:46:36.401 --> 00:46:36.641
You know,

1504
00:46:36.901 --> 00:46:37.741
I love that.

1505
00:46:37.742 --> 00:46:39.001
I love to watch Danielle's.

1506
00:46:39.002 --> 00:46:39.982
That's a good analogy.

1507
00:46:39.983 --> 00:46:40.342
You know,

1508
00:46:40.462 --> 00:46:41.202
Danielle's,

1509
00:46:42.002 --> 00:46:42.242
you know,

1510
00:46:42.382 --> 00:46:46.904
her ascension with social media and with the stuff that there's with Danielle.

1511
00:46:46.944 --> 00:46:47.244
It is

1512
00:46:47.844 --> 00:46:50.105
10 steps forward than one or two steps back.

1513
00:46:50.565 --> 00:46:51.865
But there's always growth.

1514
00:46:51.905 --> 00:46:53.205
There's always evolution.

1515
00:46:53.305 --> 00:46:53.646
And I'm.

1516
00:46:54.026 --> 00:46:54.566
That's what I say.

1517
00:46:54.646 --> 00:46:55.166
Up and coming.

1518
00:46:55.386 --> 00:46:57.347
It's an extreme product of her journey.

1519
00:46:57.407 --> 00:46:57.647
You know,

1520
00:46:57.767 --> 00:46:57.947
even,

1521
00:46:58.107 --> 00:46:58.228
well,

1522
00:46:58.248 --> 00:46:59.628
let's talk about that just for a minute.

1523
00:47:00.089 --> 00:47:01.369
You want to have a conversation is,

1524
00:47:05.671 --> 00:47:06.312
so Danielle,

1525
00:47:06.372 --> 00:47:06.612
you know,

1526
00:47:06.672 --> 00:47:06.872
there's,

1527
00:47:07.452 --> 00:47:08.973
she obviously knows there's naysayers,

1528
00:47:09.013 --> 00:47:09.233
right?

1529
00:47:10.014 --> 00:47:10.134
Yes.

1530
00:47:10.135 --> 00:47:10.934
A lot of naysayers.

1531
00:47:10.994 --> 00:47:11.875
And anything you do,

1532
00:47:12.095 --> 00:47:12.895
there's naysayers.

1533
00:47:12.995 --> 00:47:13.235
You know,

1534
00:47:13.236 --> 00:47:13.956
in politics,

1535
00:47:14.076 --> 00:47:15.016
it's at least 50%

1536
00:47:15.537 --> 00:47:16.277
are naysayers,

1537
00:47:16.357 --> 00:47:16.557
right?

1538
00:47:16.697 --> 00:47:17.858
Hopefully you get to 51.

1539
00:47:18.182 --> 00:47:18.422
you know,

1540
00:47:18.442 --> 00:47:18.822
support.

1541
00:47:19.883 --> 00:47:20.123
You know,

1542
00:47:20.143 --> 00:47:21.203
it's funny when they measure,

1543
00:47:21.223 --> 00:47:25.045
when they measure the president's favorability or job performance or any,

1544
00:47:25.245 --> 00:47:26.145
any politician,

1545
00:47:26.926 --> 00:47:27.126
um,

1546
00:47:27.686 --> 00:47:28.106
if you get,

1547
00:47:28.226 --> 00:47:29.107
if you break 50,

1548
00:47:29.167 --> 00:47:29.627
that's like,

1549
00:47:30.067 --> 00:47:30.767
that's the goal,

1550
00:47:31.027 --> 00:47:31.388
right?

1551
00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:31.868
And you think,

1552
00:47:31.928 --> 00:47:32.108
wait,

1553
00:47:32.109 --> 00:47:33.448
is that good?

1554
00:47:33.708 --> 00:47:37.370
But that is the goal because a lot of times there's jealousy involved,

1555
00:47:38.250 --> 00:47:38.450
right?

1556
00:47:38.911 --> 00:47:39.151
You know,

1557
00:47:39.671 --> 00:47:40.031
ah,

1558
00:47:40.091 --> 00:47:40.211
she,

1559
00:47:40.331 --> 00:47:41.132
she don't know what she doing.

1560
00:47:41.152 --> 00:47:42.392
She's making a joke of herself,

1561
00:47:42.452 --> 00:47:44.033
making a fool of herself and everything else.

1562
00:47:44.553 --> 00:47:45.593
But then there's other people say,

1563
00:47:45.713 --> 00:47:45.894
God,

1564
00:47:45.934 --> 00:47:46.814
I wish I could do that.

1565
00:47:47.878 --> 00:47:47.998
Yeah.

1566
00:47:47.999 --> 00:47:49.119
I wish I had the ability to do that.

1567
00:47:49.519 --> 00:47:49.719
Right.

1568
00:47:50.459 --> 00:47:51.720
I wish I would have thought of that.

1569
00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:52.720
Right.

1570
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:53.580
Well,

1571
00:47:53.581 --> 00:47:55.761
what we've seen since I've started doing this more,

1572
00:47:55.841 --> 00:47:58.642
like I see more and more legislators trying to do videos.

1573
00:47:58.763 --> 00:47:59.923
Yeah.

1574
00:47:59.924 --> 00:48:02.184
And what's funny is I'll get people to send in and be like,

1575
00:48:02.324 --> 00:48:02.504
oh,

1576
00:48:02.644 --> 00:48:03.705
this is so bad.

1577
00:48:03.805 --> 00:48:04.025
Right.

1578
00:48:04.045 --> 00:48:04.405
And I'm like,

1579
00:48:04.445 --> 00:48:04.565
look,

1580
00:48:04.625 --> 00:48:05.505
it takes practice.

1581
00:48:05.545 --> 00:48:07.346
Like the first ones that I did,

1582
00:48:07.386 --> 00:48:08.266
it took some time.

1583
00:48:08.326 --> 00:48:08.586
Right.

1584
00:48:09.287 --> 00:48:10.707
It's like reading from a teleprompter.

1585
00:48:11.007 --> 00:48:11.208
Yeah.

1586
00:48:11.248 --> 00:48:12.028
You think it's easy.

1587
00:48:12.568 --> 00:48:13.248
It's not easy.

1588
00:48:13.268 --> 00:48:13.849
It's not easy.

1589
00:48:13.889 --> 00:48:14.069
Yeah.

1590
00:48:14.189 --> 00:48:15.709
And I remember the first time I came on here,

1591
00:48:15.710 --> 00:48:16.470
it was a favor to you.

1592
00:48:17.394 --> 00:48:20.756
And I ended up just like having like an emotional vomit about,

1593
00:48:20.776 --> 00:48:24.239
and it ended up being more of a therapy session to dealing with my first session,

1594
00:48:24.359 --> 00:48:24.559
right?

1595
00:48:24.560 --> 00:48:26.120
Because I got kicked in the teeth hard.

1596
00:48:27.501 --> 00:48:28.082
And then I was like,

1597
00:48:28.162 --> 00:48:28.282
oh,

1598
00:48:28.322 --> 00:48:29.182
this is therapeutic.

1599
00:48:29.223 --> 00:48:29.923
It makes it,

1600
00:48:30.123 --> 00:48:30.864
I feel better,

1601
00:48:31.364 --> 00:48:31.564
right?

1602
00:48:31.565 --> 00:48:35.887
Because I can speak my mind because I'm not allowed to speak my mind in the legislature.

1603
00:48:36.868 --> 00:48:40.591
So that's kind of how it came about was more of just like a mental health perspective.

1604
00:48:41.371 --> 00:48:44.073
But I think it's getting to be more accepted.

1605
00:48:45.702 --> 00:48:49.825
In terms of like other legislators starting to do it and reaching out on social media.

1606
00:48:49.845 --> 00:48:50.765
I think we're going to start seeing that.

1607
00:48:50.766 --> 00:48:52.226
Any form of communication is good,

1608
00:48:52.266 --> 00:48:52.526
right?

1609
00:48:52.566 --> 00:48:54.127
And the ability to get out to your people.

1610
00:48:54.227 --> 00:48:54.347
And

1611
00:48:55.348 --> 00:48:55.588
I mean,

1612
00:48:55.628 --> 00:48:58.049
that's why campaigns cost so much,

1613
00:48:58.570 --> 00:48:58.750
right?

1614
00:48:58.850 --> 00:48:59.770
Why do they cost so much?

1615
00:48:59.790 --> 00:49:03.713
Because you got to get your name ID and you got to get your word out,

1616
00:49:04.013 --> 00:49:04.273
right?

1617
00:49:05.114 --> 00:49:06.014
And how do you do that?

1618
00:49:06.434 --> 00:49:08.416
All the mechanism and tools to do,

1619
00:49:08.536 --> 00:49:08.776
you know,

1620
00:49:08.777 --> 00:49:09.636
to get the word out,

1621
00:49:09.637 --> 00:49:10.277
it costs money.

1622
00:49:10.797 --> 00:49:11.477
But there's not one.

1623
00:49:11.478 --> 00:49:12.278
And you're never.

1624
00:49:12.986 --> 00:49:13.126
Yeah,

1625
00:49:13.226 --> 00:49:13.526
exactly.

1626
00:49:13.527 --> 00:49:13.666
Right?

1627
00:49:13.667 --> 00:49:14.026
Like back in that day.

1628
00:49:14.027 --> 00:49:16.207
You're never going to get everybody.

1629
00:49:16.527 --> 00:49:16.647
Yeah.

1630
00:49:17.027 --> 00:49:18.828
Not everybody's going to see your commercial.

1631
00:49:18.829 --> 00:49:19.448
You're not.

1632
00:49:19.968 --> 00:49:22.229
And modalities like this are great.

1633
00:49:22.289 --> 00:49:25.390
One of the easiest ways to get the word out,

1634
00:49:26.090 --> 00:49:26.550
and I see it,

1635
00:49:26.570 --> 00:49:27.970
I see it from like a lot of folks in DC,

1636
00:49:28.070 --> 00:49:29.191
is you're walking out of session,

1637
00:49:29.192 --> 00:49:29.551
you're walking,

1638
00:49:30.031 --> 00:49:31.671
pick your goddamn phone up and talk.

1639
00:49:32.432 --> 00:49:32.972
And just talk.

1640
00:49:33.012 --> 00:49:33.272
I know.

1641
00:49:33.273 --> 00:49:35.273
He wanted me to do that last session and I was like,

1642
00:49:35.373 --> 00:49:36.073
I'm not pressing,

1643
00:49:36.453 --> 00:49:36.693
I'm not,

1644
00:49:36.733 --> 00:49:36.953
I'm not,

1645
00:49:37.113 --> 00:49:37.873
I'm not doing that.

1646
00:49:38.233 --> 00:49:38.413
Like.

1647
00:49:38.734 --> 00:49:38.874
Well,

1648
00:49:38.875 --> 00:49:40.134
you got to do what you're comfortable with.

1649
00:49:40.374 --> 00:49:40.494
Yeah,

1650
00:49:40.514 --> 00:49:40.634
yeah,

1651
00:49:40.714 --> 00:49:43.455
but I just knew the amount of blowback that would happen,

1652
00:49:43.635 --> 00:49:46.877
me walking off the floor doing that,

1653
00:49:47.217 --> 00:49:47.477
right,

1654
00:49:47.637 --> 00:49:50.558
was just more than I wanted to deal with last session,

1655
00:49:50.798 --> 00:49:51.199
honestly.

1656
00:49:53.139 --> 00:49:53.480
I don't know.

1657
00:49:53.481 --> 00:49:54.920
I might feel different about it next session.

1658
00:49:55.100 --> 00:49:55.400
Oh,

1659
00:49:55.560 --> 00:49:56.201
be still my heart.

1660
00:49:56.341 --> 00:49:56.661
We'll see.

1661
00:49:56.961 --> 00:49:57.481
But again,

1662
00:49:57.801 --> 00:50:03.924
it's just connecting with your audience as often as possible in the most sincere way that you can.

1663
00:50:04.244 --> 00:50:04.604
Right.

1664
00:50:04.605 --> 00:50:05.485
It's not canned.

1665
00:50:05.585 --> 00:50:06.725
It's not reading a teleprompter.

1666
00:50:07.525 --> 00:50:08.626
it's you talking to

1667
00:50:09.022 --> 00:50:09.262
you know,

1668
00:50:09.303 --> 00:50:11.145
to me here or to your phone,

1669
00:50:11.185 --> 00:50:12.988
and then you go ahead and your team posts it,

1670
00:50:12.989 --> 00:50:13.289
whatever.

1671
00:50:13.689 --> 00:50:16.614
But it's being available and getting this.

1672
00:50:17.561 --> 00:50:36.347
to hear as fast as you can because if not if there's talking points and the press takes it and they clip it up the way they want to then it dilutes the overall message that you guys are trying to convey to your audience right and that what you just said there would clip it up that's a big thing in politics you

1673
00:50:36.348 --> 00:50:43.789
know and i deal with it quite often because the opposite party they'll they'll take something i say over a period of two paragraphs

1674
00:50:44.389 --> 00:50:46.931
And they'll clip it to five words and think,

1675
00:50:47.071 --> 00:50:47.292
oh,

1676
00:50:47.312 --> 00:50:49.053
it's the devil reincarnate,

1677
00:50:49.133 --> 00:50:49.433
right?

1678
00:50:49.754 --> 00:50:51.795
And it happens all the time.

1679
00:50:52.396 --> 00:50:53.437
It happens all the time.

1680
00:50:53.477 --> 00:51:00.403
So the ability to converse the entire syntax and content is important.

1681
00:51:00.404 --> 00:51:00.583
You know,

1682
00:51:00.584 --> 00:51:06.788
the other thing that's frustrating that I see is that I watch the Democrats constantly blame you for stuff,

1683
00:51:07.369 --> 00:51:07.569
right?

1684
00:51:07.609 --> 00:51:08.029
And it's like,

1685
00:51:08.089 --> 00:51:12.173
but the legislation starts with them in both of their chambers.

1686
00:51:12.373 --> 00:51:12.573
Yeah.

1687
00:51:12.733 --> 00:51:12.973
Right.

1688
00:51:13.053 --> 00:51:15.335
And so they are at the ground.

1689
00:51:15.336 --> 00:51:18.157
They're the foundation of fixing the problem.

1690
00:51:18.637 --> 00:51:22.900
You don't really get much of a say into it until it gets to your desk.

1691
00:51:23.481 --> 00:51:26.043
And the fact that you don't have that line item veto,

1692
00:51:26.283 --> 00:51:27.504
which other governors has,

1693
00:51:27.584 --> 00:51:27.984
which says,

1694
00:51:28.224 --> 00:51:29.625
let me make this a little bit better.

1695
00:51:29.825 --> 00:51:31.867
Let me make this a little bit arduous.

1696
00:51:32.688 --> 00:51:34.309
And I think people are scared of it.

1697
00:51:34.349 --> 00:51:35.590
But here's my thought process.

1698
00:51:35.930 --> 00:51:37.171
That legislator can say,

1699
00:51:37.351 --> 00:51:39.813
I put it in there for whatever special interest.

1700
00:51:39.873 --> 00:51:40.073
Okay.

1701
00:51:40.485 --> 00:52:05.477
but then you can take it out and then do what's best for nevada and it's a win-win for everybody but they're afraid to give you that power um but i just hate that they are constantly blaming you for like the gas right the gas right like this has been going on for decades that were kind of tied to california that's what happens when you're when you're the boss you always get all the blame right yeah what are you doing about it what are you doing about it i

1702
00:52:05.497 --> 00:52:06.237
wish i had

1703
00:52:06.537 --> 00:52:08.398
the authority that people think I have.

1704
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.041
I think you were frustrated to find out you didn't the first session.

1705
00:52:13.042 --> 00:52:15.922
That was something I learned very in due order.

1706
00:52:16.242 --> 00:52:17.423
Like boards and commissions,

1707
00:52:17.443 --> 00:52:18.724
I wanted to get rid of half of them,

1708
00:52:18.784 --> 00:52:19.044
right?

1709
00:52:19.084 --> 00:52:19.304
Yeah.

1710
00:52:19.305 --> 00:52:20.545
I said they're antiquated.

1711
00:52:20.625 --> 00:52:21.685
Some of them don't make sense.

1712
00:52:21.705 --> 00:52:22.826
Some don't do anything.

1713
00:52:22.926 --> 00:52:27.849
Some don't even meet and process to repeal them and adjust them.

1714
00:52:28.689 --> 00:52:30.210
And here's the frustration.

1715
00:52:30.310 --> 00:52:31.491
Something that opened my eyes,

1716
00:52:31.691 --> 00:52:32.932
and I'm glad you brought it up,

1717
00:52:34.312 --> 00:52:35.133
why would that be a

1718
00:52:37.013 --> 00:52:57.312
arduous process why it makes sense right better streamlined government just for time you know over time how things change and what people are concerned with whatnot you know why because there's a freaking lobbyist attached to every one of them there's a lobbyist there's there's there's some outside forces that makes a living off it that is no

1719
00:52:57.533 --> 00:53:01.016
we can't do that we can't do that things would be chaos,

1720
00:53:01.136 --> 00:53:01.396
you know?

1721
00:53:02.277 --> 00:53:03.398
Raining cats and dogs.

1722
00:53:03.618 --> 00:53:04.498
There's a lot of,

1723
00:53:04.658 --> 00:53:05.919
and I don't have personal experience,

1724
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:11.101
old school thinking that's still being applied to politics now with the consultants.

1725
00:53:11.621 --> 00:53:13.302
Like I've talked to Danielle a million times about this.

1726
00:53:13.702 --> 00:53:14.602
Roadside signs,

1727
00:53:15.043 --> 00:53:15.723
it's noise to me.

1728
00:53:16.203 --> 00:53:16.843
There's no need,

1729
00:53:17.284 --> 00:53:18.424
and people disagree with me,

1730
00:53:18.425 --> 00:53:20.505
but I've talked to other folks running for stuff here in town.

1731
00:53:20.845 --> 00:53:22.726
Like what are you spending roadside signs?

1732
00:53:23.026 --> 00:53:24.647
You should be doing videos and putting them online.

1733
00:53:25.987 --> 00:53:29.409
Be more relatable than a sign on the side of the road or a billboard.

1734
00:53:29.609 --> 00:53:32.732
So I'll say reason signs work for like,

1735
00:53:32.733 --> 00:53:33.332
for instance,

1736
00:53:33.352 --> 00:53:38.256
like there are some populations generationally that are not on social media.

1737
00:53:38.676 --> 00:53:39.217
So like,

1738
00:53:39.297 --> 00:53:43.120
I don't know how many times I hear from like the older generation.

1739
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:43.600
Like,

1740
00:53:43.641 --> 00:53:45.082
I don't hear what the governor is doing.

1741
00:53:45.422 --> 00:53:45.682
I'm like,

1742
00:53:45.722 --> 00:53:46.343
are you on X?

1743
00:53:46.443 --> 00:53:48.585
Because they post like 17 million times a day.

1744
00:53:49.085 --> 00:53:49.285
Right.

1745
00:53:50.446 --> 00:53:52.168
I think we're on a lot of platforms.

1746
00:53:52.868 --> 00:53:53.789
But just in general,

1747
00:53:53.869 --> 00:53:57.792
like follow him on Facebook or X or whatever it is.

1748
00:53:58.172 --> 00:53:58.613
And so...

1749
00:53:58.913 --> 00:54:03.414
to have the road signs is actually good for more of that analog generation.

1750
00:54:03.814 --> 00:54:04.355
How much of that,

1751
00:54:04.435 --> 00:54:06.195
and I'll push back a little bit with respect,

1752
00:54:06.355 --> 00:54:11.617
how much of the analog boomer generation is in a district of like of,

1753
00:54:11.737 --> 00:54:12.377
of yours?

1754
00:54:12.497 --> 00:54:13.657
It's a huge part.

1755
00:54:14.517 --> 00:54:15.758
Roadside signs make sense,

1756
00:54:16.138 --> 00:54:16.378
but it's,

1757
00:54:16.458 --> 00:54:17.638
that's not for everybody.

1758
00:54:17.758 --> 00:54:18.198
Correct.

1759
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:19.699
I'm with you.

1760
00:54:21.399 --> 00:54:22.320
I'm with you on this one.

1761
00:54:23.140 --> 00:54:23.500
And you know,

1762
00:54:23.501 --> 00:54:24.180
a lot of times,

1763
00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:26.341
depending on the position,

1764
00:54:26.601 --> 00:54:26.841
you know,

1765
00:54:27.565 --> 00:54:31.568
what I've been told going through all the nuances of politics and different levels.

1766
00:54:32.428 --> 00:54:32.668
You know,

1767
00:54:33.009 --> 00:54:34.790
if you're in a statewide race,

1768
00:54:35.490 --> 00:54:37.612
don't waste your money on road signs,

1769
00:54:37.832 --> 00:54:38.032
right?

1770
00:54:38.112 --> 00:54:39.413
Because you got to get more global.

1771
00:54:39.414 --> 00:54:42.735
You got to get into the billboard commercial and spaces like that.

1772
00:54:42.775 --> 00:54:44.056
So you have a bigger audience.

1773
00:54:45.237 --> 00:54:46.998
And the issue I have,

1774
00:54:47.418 --> 00:54:47.659
you know,

1775
00:54:47.899 --> 00:54:50.841
and all you got to do is go to some major intersection.

1776
00:54:50.842 --> 00:54:51.741
Yeah.

1777
00:54:51.742 --> 00:54:51.901
You know,

1778
00:54:51.902 --> 00:54:53.683
it's fine if it was just your sign there.

1779
00:54:53.684 --> 00:54:54.083
Yeah.

1780
00:54:54.623 --> 00:54:57.085
But there's 150 signs there.

1781
00:54:57.641 --> 00:55:03.048
And you're trying to pay attention to the road and you may get stopped at a red light and can look over for a minute.

1782
00:55:03.909 --> 00:55:05.210
But it's pollution.

1783
00:55:05.851 --> 00:55:07.313
It's visual pollution.

1784
00:55:08.033 --> 00:55:11.055
and the ability to consume whatever they're advertising,

1785
00:55:11.095 --> 00:55:11.335
right?

1786
00:55:11.535 --> 00:55:12.616
There's no separation.

1787
00:55:13.177 --> 00:55:15.618
It's a conglomeration of mess.

1788
00:55:15.858 --> 00:55:19.461
I'll say it because I can say it because the political consultants hate me.

1789
00:55:19.801 --> 00:55:20.602
They just don't like me.

1790
00:55:20.702 --> 00:55:22.523
I've talked to other people in town running for office,

1791
00:55:22.524 --> 00:55:24.965
and they won't hire me because I tell them,

1792
00:55:25.185 --> 00:55:26.406
I tell the people running,

1793
00:55:26.926 --> 00:55:28.147
don't do roadside signs.

1794
00:55:28.627 --> 00:55:29.548
Don't do billboards.

1795
00:55:29.808 --> 00:55:30.409
Don't do TV.

1796
00:55:30.789 --> 00:55:31.469
Don't do radio.

1797
00:55:31.649 --> 00:55:32.750
Don't do print advertising.

1798
00:55:33.090 --> 00:55:35.492
Don't put your name on a goddamn shopping cart at Smith's.

1799
00:55:36.033 --> 00:55:36.553
Don't do it.

1800
00:55:36.869 --> 00:55:37.590
What's wrong with you?

1801
00:55:37.591 --> 00:55:39.351
1987 just called and said,

1802
00:55:39.411 --> 00:55:40.232
thank you so much.

1803
00:55:40.893 --> 00:55:41.313
Stop it.

1804
00:55:42.014 --> 00:55:46.617
Get in front of people on their phones and do stuff that is the clippable moment.

1805
00:55:46.618 --> 00:55:46.878
All right,

1806
00:55:46.918 --> 00:55:48.039
now I'm going to push back on you,

1807
00:55:49.040 --> 00:55:50.121
and I'm going to side with her,

1808
00:55:51.081 --> 00:55:56.346
because you listed a whole plethora of modalities to get your word out,

1809
00:55:56.426 --> 00:55:56.746
right?

1810
00:55:57.787 --> 00:55:58.888
Some of them I agree with.

1811
00:55:59.208 --> 00:56:00.029
Other ones I don't.

1812
00:56:00.489 --> 00:56:01.310
And some of it is,

1813
00:56:01.690 --> 00:56:02.691
you were talking about it,

1814
00:56:02.952 --> 00:56:04.493
a certain age demographic.

1815
00:56:05.313 --> 00:56:07.475
You get into the senior citizens,

1816
00:56:07.555 --> 00:56:09.036
people of my age,

1817
00:56:09.997 --> 00:56:11.158
and you get a mail,

1818
00:56:11.498 --> 00:56:12.419
a flyer in the mail,

1819
00:56:12.819 --> 00:56:13.740
you hang on to that.

1820
00:56:14.621 --> 00:56:19.585
And all you got to do in a perfect test bubble on that is go to a polling location,

1821
00:56:19.725 --> 00:56:20.726
a voting location,

1822
00:56:21.267 --> 00:56:25.350
and you'll see every one of those individuals standing in line with your flyer.

1823
00:56:26.511 --> 00:56:27.312
Hopefully it's everyone.

1824
00:56:27.892 --> 00:56:32.096
But they'll be standing there because it's a reminder to them and they're like,

1825
00:56:32.216 --> 00:56:32.336
hmm,

1826
00:56:32.337 --> 00:56:32.676
hmm,

1827
00:56:32.936 --> 00:56:33.177
yes.

1828
00:56:33.497 --> 00:56:33.637
Yeah.

1829
00:56:33.997 --> 00:56:35.097
A hundred percent fair.

1830
00:56:35.257 --> 00:56:35.618
But again,

1831
00:56:35.619 --> 00:56:37.278
it goes back to reverse engineering.

1832
00:56:37.818 --> 00:56:40.399
Who is your target audience?

1833
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:40.559
Right.

1834
00:56:40.579 --> 00:56:42.639
And if your target audience is I'm 56,

1835
00:56:43.140 --> 00:56:44.060
if your target audience is,

1836
00:56:44.080 --> 00:56:44.320
you know,

1837
00:56:44.400 --> 00:56:45.360
55 and under,

1838
00:56:46.080 --> 00:56:47.121
you should go more digital.

1839
00:56:47.241 --> 00:56:48.401
If you're 56 up,

1840
00:56:48.761 --> 00:56:50.141
absolutely more analog.

1841
00:56:50.342 --> 00:56:50.542
Okay.

1842
00:56:50.682 --> 00:56:51.382
A hundred percent.

1843
00:56:51.422 --> 00:56:51.742
I agree.

1844
00:56:51.922 --> 00:56:52.462
You're right.

1845
00:56:52.622 --> 00:56:52.822
Okay.

1846
00:56:52.902 --> 00:56:53.022
But,

1847
00:56:53.142 --> 00:56:53.402
and then,

1848
00:56:53.863 --> 00:56:57.163
then what is the reach of things like road signs?

1849
00:56:57.784 --> 00:57:00.124
Reach is just total randomness.

1850
00:57:01.004 --> 00:57:02.545
But the mailers may be too.

1851
00:57:03.129 --> 00:57:03.369
You know,

1852
00:57:03.370 --> 00:57:04.469
you get voting rolls,

1853
00:57:04.489 --> 00:57:10.031
you get analysis associated with those voting rolls and who's who's who's,

1854
00:57:10.451 --> 00:57:10.691
you know,

1855
00:57:10.751 --> 00:57:13.452
voted in the last six cycles and everything.

1856
00:57:13.692 --> 00:57:15.093
And this is their name and address.

1857
00:57:15.573 --> 00:57:19.394
And they may be an independent voter versus a Republican or Democrat.

1858
00:57:19.414 --> 00:57:20.874
So here's my flyer.

1859
00:57:21.155 --> 00:57:22.395
That flyer is pinging them.

1860
00:57:22.795 --> 00:57:25.796
Just like when you geofence the Internet,

1861
00:57:25.876 --> 00:57:26.136
right?

1862
00:57:26.376 --> 00:57:28.037
When you put a message out on the Internet,

1863
00:57:28.038 --> 00:57:29.117
you could geofence that.

1864
00:57:29.477 --> 00:57:30.418
It's all a science.

1865
00:57:31.398 --> 00:57:33.300
And so I think it has to be measured.

1866
00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:36.002
I appreciate your 1986,

1867
00:57:36.003 --> 00:57:36.222
you know.

1868
00:57:36.762 --> 00:57:39.764
That is true because you deal with some consultants.

1869
00:57:39.844 --> 00:57:40.004
Well,

1870
00:57:40.005 --> 00:57:41.125
that's why we've always done it,

1871
00:57:41.185 --> 00:57:41.425
right?

1872
00:57:42.406 --> 00:57:46.769
And that's why it's important to be educated on the best modalities.

1873
00:57:47.269 --> 00:57:48.770
And I'll say something else.

1874
00:57:48.771 --> 00:57:50.272
Like when you're talking about running for

1875
00:57:50.832 --> 00:57:54.514
Congress or Senate or president or governor,

1876
00:57:56.156 --> 00:57:58.017
the voters will go and vote for those.

1877
00:57:58.237 --> 00:58:00.079
those like at the top of the ticket.

1878
00:58:00.599 --> 00:58:03.341
For those of us that are down at the bottom,

1879
00:58:03.802 --> 00:58:07.865
what I have learned that makes a difference is the door knocking,

1880
00:58:08.606 --> 00:58:12.008
having conversations with those constituents,

1881
00:58:12.369 --> 00:58:14.731
then getting an overall theme of like,

1882
00:58:14.811 --> 00:58:16.952
because you tend to hear the same things.

1883
00:58:17.453 --> 00:58:19.595
And then as it gets closer to election,

1884
00:58:19.655 --> 00:58:26.020
like sort of modifying your mail to mimic these conversations so that when that person gets that mail,

1885
00:58:26.040 --> 00:58:26.280
they go,

1886
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:26.560
oh,

1887
00:58:26.580 --> 00:58:27.301
they were listening.

1888
00:58:27.789 --> 00:58:28.009
Right.

1889
00:58:28.329 --> 00:58:34.972
She remembers the conversation and then they want to go down ticket because it has to be emotional to want to go all the way down at the bottom.

1890
00:58:34.973 --> 00:58:35.012
Oh,

1891
00:58:35.013 --> 00:58:35.512
it does.

1892
00:58:36.653 --> 00:58:41.275
That's why when you when you see the statistics that provide post-election,

1893
00:58:42.155 --> 00:58:42.395
you know,

1894
00:58:42.495 --> 00:58:46.397
say there's there I think there's two point three million registered voters in Nevada,

1895
00:58:46.957 --> 00:58:47.198
you know,

1896
00:58:47.898 --> 00:58:49.559
president on the on the electorate.

1897
00:58:49.659 --> 00:58:51.860
Eighty five percent of those people vote for the president.

1898
00:58:53.600 --> 00:58:54.941
You go down that same ballot.

1899
00:58:55.717 --> 00:58:57.619
You get down there and it'll be,

1900
00:58:57.759 --> 00:58:57.999
you know,

1901
00:58:58.139 --> 00:58:58.419
40%

1902
00:58:59.200 --> 00:59:00.301
voted for this person.

1903
00:59:00.921 --> 00:59:01.182
You know,

1904
00:59:01.862 --> 00:59:02.823
even if you split it,

1905
00:59:02.923 --> 00:59:03.484
D and R,

1906
00:59:03.564 --> 00:59:03.804
right?

1907
00:59:04.144 --> 00:59:04.384
You're like,

1908
00:59:04.404 --> 00:59:04.605
well,

1909
00:59:04.625 --> 00:59:05.025
why is that?

1910
00:59:05.065 --> 00:59:06.246
Because it's all the way down here.

1911
00:59:07.087 --> 00:59:09.028
They go in there with that mindset.

1912
00:59:09.029 --> 00:59:11.530
I'm going to vote for these three people and I'm out of there.

1913
00:59:11.650 --> 00:59:12.011
That's it.

1914
00:59:12.531 --> 00:59:18.056
And the other thing you'll notice too is if you take a look at the Republican districts versus the Democrat districts,

1915
00:59:18.576 --> 00:59:20.478
in order for like for my district,

1916
00:59:20.598 --> 00:59:21.319
on average,

1917
00:59:21.359 --> 00:59:24.121
you're looking at 40 plus thousand votes to get elected.

1918
00:59:24.845 --> 00:59:31.550
There are some senators that only get like 15,000 because their district doesn't vote.

1919
00:59:31.870 --> 00:59:33.431
There are some assembly members that only get

1920
00:59:34.012 --> 00:59:36.514
3,000 to 5,000 votes.

1921
00:59:36.515 --> 00:59:36.634
Yeah.

1922
00:59:36.635 --> 00:59:36.814
Right?

1923
00:59:36.815 --> 00:59:37.494
I mean,

1924
00:59:37.574 --> 00:59:38.335
plus the assembly,

1925
00:59:39.196 --> 00:59:40.196
it's a lot smaller job.

1926
00:59:40.236 --> 00:59:41.617
You're out of 80,000 people?

1927
00:59:41.938 --> 00:59:44.039
Yeah.

1928
00:59:44.339 --> 00:59:46.101
That's what got them over the finish line.

1929
00:59:46.321 --> 00:59:49.763
So you have a majority of the population that is just not participating.

1930
00:59:51.008 --> 00:59:51.308
And it's,

1931
00:59:51.408 --> 00:59:51.608
again,

1932
00:59:51.668 --> 00:59:53.509
I'm always about this reverse engineering stuff.

1933
00:59:53.589 --> 00:59:53.889
It is,

1934
00:59:54.069 --> 00:59:54.289
okay,

1935
00:59:54.390 --> 00:59:59.452
what are the pain points or challenging points that they're having to get them interested?

1936
01:00:00.192 --> 01:00:01.153
It's an open-ended question,

1937
01:00:01.453 --> 01:00:07.936
but what is it that you have to do to get them to want to go in and show up to vote that day?

1938
01:00:08.036 --> 01:00:08.416
Door knock.

1939
01:00:09.316 --> 01:00:09.996
They need to like you.

1940
01:00:10.857 --> 01:00:11.677
They need to feel like,

1941
01:00:12.338 --> 01:00:12.598
you know.

1942
01:00:12.878 --> 01:00:13.338
You're somebody.

1943
01:00:13.698 --> 01:00:13.838
Yeah,

1944
01:00:13.878 --> 01:00:15.539
but they have a responsibility.

1945
01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:15.979
You're not,

1946
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:16.499
you know,

1947
01:00:16.559 --> 01:00:17.680
the proverbial.

1948
01:00:18.040 --> 01:00:46.548
model and if they ask you to come in you go in for 10 minutes or so and talk to them i've done that a few times as you should yeah because i mean that's not only do you get a vote from that but then you get a they're gonna be telling all their friends that this woman danielle galant came in and she's running for state senate and i'm definitely voting for her and this is what she said about what you know what we're going through so one time they're in sun city anthem right so he obviously i knocked on the door he obviously had like dementia or alzheimer's or something and but he was so excited that i knocked on the door and his wife's there so they bring me in

1949
01:00:46.968 --> 01:00:47.288
cookies,

1950
01:00:47.568 --> 01:00:48.829
some iced tea.

1951
01:00:49.310 --> 01:00:52.412
He's got his veterans hat and he pulls out the article of Sam Brown.

1952
01:00:52.432 --> 01:00:53.472
This was last cycle,

1953
01:00:53.553 --> 01:00:53.753
right?

1954
01:00:54.213 --> 01:00:55.934
And he's telling me about Sam Brown.

1955
01:00:56.034 --> 01:00:57.175
So I had a nice conversation.

1956
01:00:57.215 --> 01:00:57.835
I walked out of there.

1957
01:00:57.836 --> 01:00:59.316
I screenshot it on the walkout,

1958
01:00:59.317 --> 01:00:59.957
the address.

1959
01:01:00.777 --> 01:01:01.678
A couple of weeks later,

1960
01:01:01.738 --> 01:01:06.161
I'm at the veterans cemetery for the memorial service and Sam Brown's there.

1961
01:01:06.461 --> 01:01:07.362
And I go up to Sam and I go,

1962
01:01:07.363 --> 01:01:07.882
I got to tell you,

1963
01:01:08.203 --> 01:01:09.624
this is your biggest fan.

1964
01:01:09.984 --> 01:01:10.684
If you have time,

1965
01:01:10.685 --> 01:01:11.425
will you go by there?

1966
01:01:11.705 --> 01:01:12.025
You know what?

1967
01:01:12.026 --> 01:01:13.046
They went by and said hi to him.

1968
01:01:13.226 --> 01:01:13.346
Oh,

1969
01:01:13.366 --> 01:01:13.566
good.

1970
01:01:13.606 --> 01:01:13.906
That's great.

1971
01:01:13.907 --> 01:01:14.047
Yeah.

1972
01:01:14.307 --> 01:01:15.688
But little things like that,

1973
01:01:15.908 --> 01:01:16.048
right?

1974
01:01:16.168 --> 01:01:17.389
And I know that wife said,

1975
01:01:17.809 --> 01:01:17.929
oh,

1976
01:01:18.610 --> 01:01:20.311
that Danielle told Sam,

1977
01:01:20.432 --> 01:01:21.352
remembered us,

1978
01:01:21.613 --> 01:01:21.873
you know,

1979
01:01:21.993 --> 01:01:22.854
and then what happened?

1980
01:01:22.874 --> 01:01:24.175
She told 20 of her neighbors.

1981
01:01:26.537 --> 01:01:26.677
Yeah.

1982
01:01:26.877 --> 01:01:30.560
And what she's describing is fantastic,

1983
01:01:30.640 --> 01:01:32.381
but you also have to quantify it,

1984
01:01:32.722 --> 01:01:33.022
right?

1985
01:01:33.122 --> 01:01:33.262
And

1986
01:01:34.163 --> 01:01:35.084
I can't do that.

1987
01:01:35.244 --> 01:01:35.364
No.

1988
01:01:35.784 --> 01:01:35.904
No.

1989
01:01:36.245 --> 01:01:38.166
Because I have the whole state I'm responsible for.

1990
01:01:38.206 --> 01:01:39.467
I got to be everywhere all the time.

1991
01:01:39.808 --> 01:01:42.370
And that's why volunteers are so important in campaigns.

1992
01:01:42.530 --> 01:01:42.770
You know,

1993
01:01:43.150 --> 01:01:44.011
your emissaries,

1994
01:01:44.012 --> 01:01:44.892
your representatives.

1995
01:01:45.112 --> 01:01:47.935
ability to go out and sell your story too.

1996
01:01:48.595 --> 01:01:49.997
And when I say I can't do that,

1997
01:01:50.057 --> 01:01:50.297
I mean,

1998
01:01:50.317 --> 01:01:50.958
I can do it,

1999
01:01:51.438 --> 01:01:59.846
but the percentage of people that I get in an electorate is a lot smaller than the percentage she's going to hit in her geography.

2000
01:01:59.866 --> 01:02:00.687
Yeah.

2001
01:02:00.707 --> 01:02:00.967
Are you,

2002
01:02:01.188 --> 01:02:02.549
is your campaign going to- You know,

2003
01:02:02.550 --> 01:02:06.833
the other side of that coin is she's described some very good scenarios.

2004
01:02:06.853 --> 01:02:08.234
There's other scenarios where they say,

2005
01:02:08.294 --> 01:02:09.255
get off my property.

2006
01:02:10.636 --> 01:02:27.010
absolutely only a few times i did one guy answered the door naked that was a little weird i just did this it is i'll forget it i'm not doing that one but

2007
01:02:27.070 --> 01:02:38.360
getting the word out uh and like tp usa is opening an office here i think tomorrow they open up yeah are you doing anything with them because i mean armies of kids armies of kids that will go knock on doors what is tomorrow

2008
01:02:39.892 --> 01:02:40.733
Yeah.

2009
01:02:40.734 --> 01:02:41.333
Is it Thursday?

2010
01:02:41.353 --> 01:02:41.734
Yeah,

2011
01:02:41.854 --> 01:02:43.255
I have two events with them tomorrow.

2012
01:02:43.295 --> 01:02:43.415
Cool.

2013
01:02:44.056 --> 01:02:46.878
At the office opening and an event later.

2014
01:02:47.058 --> 01:02:47.419
Oh,

2015
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:47.799
good.

2016
01:02:48.600 --> 01:02:48.740
Yeah,

2017
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:51.743
and so Danielle was talking about the Lincoln Day Circuit and everything.

2018
01:02:52.123 --> 01:02:53.884
They've had TPUSA,

2019
01:02:55.966 --> 01:02:59.930
those kids and the factions that are located in separate jurisdictions.

2020
01:03:00.230 --> 01:03:01.771
They've been showing up to the Lincoln Days.

2021
01:03:01.772 --> 01:03:02.192
I love it.

2022
01:03:02.852 --> 01:03:04.174
And they have this one raffle.

2023
01:03:04.175 --> 01:03:06.696
So a lot of the money that's raised for the…

2024
01:03:07.040 --> 01:03:25.593
county parties are done at the leek and day dinners where you know it's a fundraiser to to support the party and um turning point is offering 500 door knocks and they bid it off brilliant i said it's brilliant brilliant that i didn't realize they were doing that oh yeah yeah you know you get running

2025
01:03:25.594 --> 01:03:36.320
for assembly senate whatever it may be you're like i don't have enough volunteers oh yeah i'll give you you know 200 300 400 bucks go knock on 500 doors for me and hang your flyer or whatever it may be.

2026
01:03:37.240 --> 01:03:38.361
That's a fantastic idea.

2027
01:03:38.362 --> 01:03:39.101
How smart is that?

2028
01:03:39.681 --> 01:03:40.581
For lack of a better term,

2029
01:03:40.601 --> 01:03:42.282
it's weaponizing their army.

2030
01:03:42.522 --> 01:03:42.702
Right,

2031
01:03:42.722 --> 01:03:42.922
right.

2032
01:03:42.942 --> 01:03:45.383
And it's brilliant what they're doing.

2033
01:03:46.464 --> 01:03:47.764
Regardless of what side of the aisle they're on,

2034
01:03:48.004 --> 01:03:48.785
that's just smart.

2035
01:03:49.605 --> 01:03:49.785
Yeah.

2036
01:03:49.805 --> 01:03:50.145
But also,

2037
01:03:50.285 --> 01:03:50.746
I love it.

2038
01:03:50.806 --> 01:03:52.726
I was a political science major in college,

2039
01:03:52.727 --> 01:03:56.248
so it's getting kids involved also in the political machine.

2040
01:03:56.628 --> 01:03:59.069
And that door knocking can be a bitch sometimes.

2041
01:03:59.089 --> 01:03:59.229
I mean,

2042
01:03:59.249 --> 01:04:00.710
it's summertime.

2043
01:04:00.750 --> 01:04:02.450
You're knocking doors here in Southern Nevada.

2044
01:04:02.490 --> 01:04:02.610
Oh,

2045
01:04:02.611 --> 01:04:02.951
my God.

2046
01:04:03.071 --> 01:04:04.891
But it's part of the process.

2047
01:04:04.971 --> 01:04:06.372
and you have much more respect.

2048
01:04:06.816 --> 01:04:14.382
When your hands are dirty and you're sweating and you're knocking on doors and getting doors slammed in your face or getting invited in for cookies.

2049
01:04:14.602 --> 01:04:14.723
Yeah.

2050
01:04:15.063 --> 01:04:18.866
What a wonderful way to participate in the American political process.

2051
01:04:19.286 --> 01:04:19.847
Yeah.

2052
01:04:19.848 --> 01:04:20.587
I love that.

2053
01:04:20.627 --> 01:04:23.610
And I'm all in for what those kids are doing.

2054
01:04:24.290 --> 01:04:25.231
For the first time.

2055
01:04:25.251 --> 01:04:26.572
We were talking about him earlier.

2056
01:04:26.912 --> 01:04:27.313
What do you mean?

2057
01:04:27.693 --> 01:04:28.814
System of higher education.

2058
01:04:28.914 --> 01:04:30.295
He got a political science degree.

2059
01:04:32.297 --> 01:04:32.417
Yeah.

2060
01:04:32.437 --> 01:04:35.620
He was probably having a conversation with himself while he was there.

2061
01:04:36.801 --> 01:04:37.141
He's like,

2062
01:04:38.102 --> 01:04:39.404
how am I going to make money at this?

2063
01:04:44.429 --> 01:04:47.933
He was a salesman.

2064
01:04:47.953 --> 01:04:49.895
He has a lot to do with a political science degree.

2065
01:04:49.896 --> 01:04:50.416
Yeah.

2066
01:04:50.915 --> 01:04:52.395
Not a goddamn thing.

2067
01:04:52.396 --> 01:04:53.276
Not a goddamn thing.

2068
01:04:53.836 --> 01:04:54.396
I was a double.

2069
01:04:54.616 --> 01:04:54.876
Luckily,

2070
01:04:54.877 --> 01:04:55.716
I was a double major.

2071
01:04:55.736 --> 01:04:56.196
I was at St.

2072
01:04:56.236 --> 01:04:57.677
John Fisher College in Rochester,

2073
01:04:57.717 --> 01:04:58.097
New York,

2074
01:04:58.417 --> 01:04:59.117
political science,

2075
01:04:59.118 --> 01:04:59.697
communications,

2076
01:04:59.737 --> 01:05:00.177
journalism.

2077
01:05:00.598 --> 01:05:01.418
But I went into sales.

2078
01:05:01.438 --> 01:05:03.798
My dad was a life insurance salesman in Manhattan.

2079
01:05:03.799 --> 01:05:03.999
Dude,

2080
01:05:04.019 --> 01:05:04.619
I was a cop.

2081
01:05:04.699 --> 01:05:06.139
Well,

2082
01:05:06.140 --> 01:05:06.579
you know what?

2083
01:05:06.580 --> 01:05:07.239
I want to tell you this,

2084
01:05:07.259 --> 01:05:08.260
but before we wrap up,

2085
01:05:09.160 --> 01:05:11.020
2018,

2086
01:05:11.021 --> 01:05:11.861
the third quarter,

2087
01:05:11.921 --> 01:05:13.261
I did the Citizens Police Academy.

2088
01:05:14.401 --> 01:05:14.561
Oh,

2089
01:05:14.701 --> 01:05:15.662
that's awesome.

2090
01:05:15.742 --> 01:05:20.243
It was one of the best experiences I ever have had in my life.

2091
01:05:20.383 --> 01:05:20.523
And

2092
01:05:20.923 --> 01:05:22.884
What a great way for

2093
01:05:23.264 --> 01:05:25.744
Metro to really shine that,

2094
01:05:26.005 --> 01:05:26.245
you know,

2095
01:05:26.525 --> 01:05:28.065
for all those Wednesdays,

2096
01:05:28.066 --> 01:05:32.386
you go in for three hours and it's a different section of Metro every time.

2097
01:05:32.787 --> 01:05:36.088
And those men and women are just it was amazing.

2098
01:05:36.228 --> 01:05:36.968
It was amazing.

2099
01:05:37.128 --> 01:05:39.729
The best one for me is the deadly use of force.

2100
01:05:40.769 --> 01:05:45.911
So you go into a computer simulated room and they show you a video and you have to shoot or don't shoot.

2101
01:05:46.651 --> 01:05:46.891
You know...

2102
01:05:48.043 --> 01:05:49.385
A layman in the outside,

2103
01:05:49.386 --> 01:05:50.586
why don't you just shoot him in the knee?

2104
01:05:50.606 --> 01:05:50.706
Oh,

2105
01:05:50.707 --> 01:05:51.006
I know.

2106
01:05:51.026 --> 01:05:52.908
Why don't you shoot him in the knee?

2107
01:05:52.909 --> 01:05:53.769
Why you got to kill him?

2108
01:05:54.730 --> 01:05:54.970
Okay,

2109
01:05:55.030 --> 01:05:55.190
well,

2110
01:05:55.991 --> 01:05:56.972
let me explain to you why.

2111
01:05:57.313 --> 01:05:57.473
Yeah.

2112
01:05:57.793 --> 01:05:58.754
Cognitive learning,

2113
01:05:59.054 --> 01:05:59.315
right?

2114
01:05:59.735 --> 01:06:02.558
And instead of just verbalizing and they already have an attitude,

2115
01:06:02.978 --> 01:06:05.901
put them in that situation and they fail every single time.

2116
01:06:07.283 --> 01:06:10.546
I actually did that and I did the one in the casino.

2117
01:06:11.467 --> 01:06:14.148
And I was with these two girls and I was in front and they're next to me.

2118
01:06:14.149 --> 01:06:15.128
I go just do everything I do.

2119
01:06:15.148 --> 01:06:15.408
And it's,

2120
01:06:15.508 --> 01:06:16.609
it's like in Star Trek,

2121
01:06:16.629 --> 01:06:17.789
it's called the Kobayashi Maru.

2122
01:06:18.269 --> 01:06:18.849
It's there's just,

2123
01:06:18.869 --> 01:06:19.790
there's no way you're going to win.

2124
01:06:19.830 --> 01:06:20.430
There's no answer.

2125
01:06:20.450 --> 01:06:20.730
There's no,

2126
01:06:20.870 --> 01:06:21.630
there's no way you're going to win.

2127
01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:23.371
And there was one of the trainers had,

2128
01:06:23.431 --> 01:06:24.611
and it was an active shooter,

2129
01:06:24.951 --> 01:06:26.852
had a hostage gun to that person's head.

2130
01:06:26.853 --> 01:06:27.172
And it's like,

2131
01:06:27.192 --> 01:06:28.072
there's no way you're going to win.

2132
01:06:28.752 --> 01:06:29.652
I have it saved.

2133
01:06:30.133 --> 01:06:31.413
I still watch it to this day.

2134
01:06:31.414 --> 01:06:32.033
It was like seven,

2135
01:06:32.053 --> 01:06:32.513
eight years ago.

2136
01:06:32.613 --> 01:06:37.935
I still get goosebumps when I'm watching it because it was just one of the most intense moments of my life.

2137
01:06:38.551 --> 01:06:41.253
And they're telling me there people come from all over the world.

2138
01:06:41.913 --> 01:06:43.634
Police departments from all over the world come here and train.

2139
01:06:43.635 --> 01:06:44.034
Yeah.

2140
01:06:44.474 --> 01:06:46.235
And in those scenarios.

2141
01:06:46.375 --> 01:06:46.796
And I'm like,

2142
01:06:47.016 --> 01:06:47.876
good for you.

2143
01:06:48.116 --> 01:06:49.817
And a lot of people don't know about that.

2144
01:06:50.198 --> 01:06:54.280
And I think that's a really cool thing that Metro offers and Vegas has.

2145
01:06:55.060 --> 01:06:57.142
I think it tells a lot,

2146
01:06:57.162 --> 01:06:59.403
which most people don't want to or don't recognize.

2147
01:06:59.443 --> 01:07:01.444
But the fact when the riots were happening,

2148
01:07:01.984 --> 01:07:02.204
right,

2149
01:07:02.284 --> 01:07:04.146
and like cities were burning during

2150
01:07:04.606 --> 01:07:06.547
COVID, we did not make national news.

2151
01:07:07.075 --> 01:07:12.377
And I think that's a reflection of our law enforcement and our training that we didn't make national news.

2152
01:07:12.857 --> 01:07:12.977
And

2153
01:07:13.718 --> 01:07:16.059
I think that's a proverbial nipping it in the bud.

2154
01:07:16.579 --> 01:07:16.719
Yeah.

2155
01:07:16.979 --> 01:07:17.219
You know,

2156
01:07:17.739 --> 01:07:19.860
deal with it on the front end.

2157
01:07:19.861 --> 01:07:21.601
Let them know what the boundaries are.

2158
01:07:22.781 --> 01:07:24.382
And then it's a lot easier.

2159
01:07:24.422 --> 01:07:24.642
I mean,

2160
01:07:24.643 --> 01:07:25.322
we don't have Minnesota.

2161
01:07:25.342 --> 01:07:27.403
We're not having a Minnesota ice craziness,

2162
01:07:27.404 --> 01:07:27.663
right?

2163
01:07:27.683 --> 01:07:29.304
Like that does not happen here.

2164
01:07:29.824 --> 01:07:30.284
Just doesn't.

2165
01:07:30.484 --> 01:07:31.225
Go McMayhill,

2166
01:07:31.285 --> 01:07:31.685
by the way.

2167
01:07:31.825 --> 01:07:32.425
Go McMayhill.

2168
01:07:32.426 --> 01:07:32.705
I know.

2169
01:07:32.865 --> 01:07:34.826
That was so badass what he did.

2170
01:07:35.286 --> 01:07:36.467
And I commend you for.

2171
01:07:36.827 --> 01:07:38.428
standing by him on that.

2172
01:07:38.489 --> 01:07:38.789
You know,

2173
01:07:38.809 --> 01:07:39.970
it's interesting on that story,

2174
01:07:40.030 --> 01:07:41.791
just to give you a little color on that is

2175
01:07:43.473 --> 01:07:44.494
I did that as the sheriff.

2176
01:07:45.114 --> 01:07:45.234
Yeah.

2177
01:07:45.235 --> 01:07:46.936
Pushed back on the judge's orders.

2178
01:07:47.096 --> 01:07:48.057
And Kevin's done it,

2179
01:07:48.377 --> 01:07:48.637
I think,

2180
01:07:48.697 --> 01:07:49.478
14 times,

2181
01:07:49.479 --> 01:07:49.958
he told me.

2182
01:07:50.999 --> 01:07:52.841
But because an influencer,

2183
01:07:53.201 --> 01:07:53.861
just like you said,

2184
01:07:53.902 --> 01:07:54.542
get the word out,

2185
01:07:54.642 --> 01:07:56.724
influence found out about it,

2186
01:07:56.744 --> 01:07:57.805
put it on social media,

2187
01:07:57.965 --> 01:07:59.286
it grew like wildfire.

2188
01:07:59.287 --> 01:07:59.406
Yeah.

2189
01:07:59.726 --> 01:07:59.987
You know,

2190
01:08:00.007 --> 01:08:02.649
that's been happening for years and years behind the scenes.

2191
01:08:03.269 --> 01:08:04.490
And I think it's good it came out.

2192
01:08:04.931 --> 01:08:05.051
Yeah.

2193
01:08:05.191 --> 01:08:06.152
I think it's good it came out.

2194
01:08:06.452 --> 01:08:06.953
I loved it.

2195
01:08:07.033 --> 01:08:07.293
I mean,

2196
01:08:07.573 --> 01:08:07.774
you know,

2197
01:08:07.775 --> 01:08:11.877
because I don't want to get into the nuances of the law of it,

2198
01:08:11.918 --> 01:08:14.500
but it's a lot of it is resource driven,

2199
01:08:14.580 --> 01:08:14.720
too.

2200
01:08:14.1000 --> 01:08:15.241
You know,

2201
01:08:15.341 --> 01:08:21.066
you have you have so many courts and they're driving people down into the system and they want,

2202
01:08:21.106 --> 01:08:21.347
you know,

2203
01:08:22.007 --> 01:08:24.750
limited incarceration instead of fully incarcerated.

2204
01:08:24.870 --> 01:08:25.130
You know,

2205
01:08:25.131 --> 01:08:27.212
you have ankle bracelets and things like that.

2206
01:08:27.933 --> 01:08:29.935
And sometimes you don't have the resources to do it.

2207
01:08:30.263 --> 01:08:30.443
Right.

2208
01:08:30.444 --> 01:08:32.584
You don't have enough equipment to do it.

2209
01:08:32.585 --> 01:08:36.786
You don't have enough people to monitor it and things like that because they're not tracking those numbers.

2210
01:08:37.666 --> 01:08:41.267
And then you get a situation like what Kevin's dealing with on this last one,

2211
01:08:41.668 --> 01:08:43.128
35 previous felonies,

2212
01:08:43.208 --> 01:08:43.408
right?

2213
01:08:43.769 --> 01:08:45.669
The proverbial rotating door,

2214
01:08:45.829 --> 01:08:46.049
right?

2215
01:08:46.089 --> 01:08:46.790
Revolving door.

2216
01:08:47.130 --> 01:08:49.811
And there's this time you have to put your foot down.

2217
01:08:49.851 --> 01:08:50.031
Hey,

2218
01:08:50.351 --> 01:08:51.011
my job,

2219
01:08:51.292 --> 01:08:54.153
I raised my hand to protect society.

2220
01:08:55.693 --> 01:08:56.053
Yeah.

2221
01:08:56.054 --> 01:08:56.754
We need to get him in here.

2222
01:08:57.414 --> 01:08:57.714
Kevin?

2223
01:08:57.854 --> 01:08:57.994
Yeah.

2224
01:08:58.034 --> 01:08:58.835
I can get Kevin in here.

2225
01:08:58.836 --> 01:08:59.035
Yeah.

2226
01:08:59.555 --> 01:08:59.715
Okay.

2227
01:09:00.255 --> 01:09:00.756
Would love to.

2228
01:09:00.836 --> 01:09:01.136
I just,

2229
01:09:01.276 --> 01:09:01.997
I've,

2230
01:09:02.117 --> 01:09:02.477
yeah.

2231
01:09:02.757 --> 01:09:04.279
Ever since I took the Citizen Police Academy,

2232
01:09:04.280 --> 01:09:04.819
I went through that.

2233
01:09:04.859 --> 01:09:05.620
It was just,

2234
01:09:06.180 --> 01:09:06.881
it was awesome.

2235
01:09:08.282 --> 01:09:10.864
I've always respected law enforcement,

2236
01:09:10.884 --> 01:09:11.645
but now it's like,

2237
01:09:11.665 --> 01:09:12.626
and like the homicide.

2238
01:09:13.787 --> 01:09:14.468
Holy crap.

2239
01:09:15.148 --> 01:09:15.849
Holy crap.

2240
01:09:15.929 --> 01:09:16.609
Not for the squeamish,

2241
01:09:16.629 --> 01:09:17.130
but it was great.

2242
01:09:17.590 --> 01:09:19.692
It's just a learning educational experience.

2243
01:09:19.992 --> 01:09:21.293
Everyone should go through the

2244
01:09:21.854 --> 01:09:23.415
Metro Citizen Police Academy,

2245
01:09:23.916 --> 01:09:24.236
I think.

2246
01:09:25.017 --> 01:09:25.297
Governor,

2247
01:09:25.337 --> 01:09:26.078
thank you for coming in.

2248
01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:26.178
No,

2249
01:09:26.338 --> 01:09:26.658
thank you.

2250
01:09:26.858 --> 01:09:27.559
This has been great.

2251
01:09:28.115 --> 01:09:28.856
It's been a lot of fun.

2252
01:09:29.236 --> 01:09:29.596
It was fun.

2253
01:09:29.756 --> 01:09:30.057
Danielle,

2254
01:09:30.058 --> 01:09:30.637
you behaved,

2255
01:09:30.657 --> 01:09:32.239
which is really good.

2256
01:09:32.339 --> 01:09:33.159
He brings that out of me.

2257
01:09:33.280 --> 01:09:33.620
Thank you.

2258
01:09:34.581 --> 01:09:34.921
Thank you.

2259
01:09:35.121 --> 01:09:36.062
Thank you very much.

2260
01:09:36.362 --> 01:09:36.542
And,

2261
01:09:36.983 --> 01:09:37.223
you know,

2262
01:09:37.683 --> 01:09:40.065
there's always an open seat here for you whenever you want to.

2263
01:09:40.066 --> 01:09:42.347
If there's something you want to get off your chest or talk about,

2264
01:09:42.848 --> 01:09:43.448
this has been fun.

2265
01:09:43.669 --> 01:09:44.169
My pleasure.

2266
01:09:44.209 --> 01:09:44.509
Thank you.

2267
01:09:45.190 --> 01:09:45.450
Thank you,

2268
01:09:45.470 --> 01:09:45.830
Danielle.