Jenelle Evans Sets the Record Straight on Family and Reality TV

In this powerful episode of Fargo Talks, Jeff sits down with Jenelle Evans—widely known from MTV’s Teen Mom series—for an unfiltered conversation about life beyond reality TV. Jenelle opens up about the ongoing challenges she's faced as a mother, including dealing with a controlling parent, navigating custody struggles with the fathers of her children, and overcoming years of public judgment and scrutiny.
Now more self-aware and grounded than ever, Jenelle shares how she's built mental resilience, embraced her values, and redefined her identity outside of the headlines. This episode presents a mature and dignified Jenelle—focused on personal growth, her children’s well-being, and reclaiming her narrative.
It’s an honest and raw look at motherhood, media pressure, and rising above public perception. #realitytv #teenmom #jenelleevans
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hey janelle hey welcome to fargo talks thank you for inviting me well it's we're just talking i
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am not a reality show guy i'm just not but the research i've done is bananas like yeah with like how you got into it and what you and it's you're so young yeah right yeah
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How did that feel when you were like,
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let's just jump right into it.
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Like,
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how old were you when you were approached by the producers?
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And what did that feel like?
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Well,
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I was 16 years old at the time.
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And
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I actually just watched Farrah's episode of 16 and Pregnant.
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I was going to say she was just on here.
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And once I saw that,
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I was,
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you know,
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seven months pregnant.
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And I was like,
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I wonder if they're looking for more people.
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So honestly,
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I went on
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MTV.com, went to casting calls.
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I submitted myself,
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which most of the girls,
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their parents submitted them.
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But for me,
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I submitted myself and they contacted me and they were like,
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can we come down to North Carolina and meet you?
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And that's where it all began.
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How?
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I mean,
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again,
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I'm not a woman,
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if you couldn't tell.
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I'm not.
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The hormones,
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everything's going when you're,
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I mean,
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you're baking a baby.
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Right.
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And on top of that,
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you've got cameras and producers and everything else.
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How was that mentally on you?
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Like,
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how did how did you get through that?
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Because to me,
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without even knowing you,
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it shows that you have a very strong constitution,
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like you're very much strong willed,
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confident.
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Thank you.
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You're welcome.
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You're welcome.
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You know what you want and you're going to do whatever you can in a safe,
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legal way to get there.
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But if you got to break a couple eggs to make an omelet,
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you got to fucking do that sometimes.
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yeah,
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yeah.
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So walk me through that.
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So I think when I was younger,
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I was more carefree.
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And I think I had a tougher shell than I do now.
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Because now looking back on everything,
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some of the stuff I went through,
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of course,
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I didn't make the best decisions.
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wow,
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that really happened.
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And as an adult,
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reflecting back on these things.
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I feel like you take it more seriously in the situation versus when I was younger,
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I was just like,
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like I said,
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carefree,
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did not care what anybody thought.
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And now it's like I'm kind of taking a few steps back and reflecting on all of it.
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And a lot of people think I'm in that same position that I was in,
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but I'm 33 now.
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I'm not 16.
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And I think a lot of people don't realize that.
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So the persona of people thinking I'm the bad one.
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still lingers a little bit.
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So that's why like,
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I've been trying to break away from teen mom and trying to like do my own thing.
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Good for you.
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What,
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what would 33 year old you tell,
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you know,
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16 year old you?
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I would say calm down,
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but,
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but I feel like everything that I've been through in life has made me the person I am today.
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I would tell her things will get better and just hang in there.
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I saw a clip one time,
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Tom Hanks,
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the actor,
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had a great line.
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He said,
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this too shall pass.
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I have that tattooed on my stomach.
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I love you.
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It's like,
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if it's bad,
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this too shall pass.
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If it's good,
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this too shall pass.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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That helps me give me this grounding.
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Whenever I face a challenge.
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But also it helps me stay centered whenever something like amazing happens in my life.
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You don't get too like over your skis.
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no.
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I feel that way too because it's like certain bad situations you're in,
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you can reflect and be like,
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maybe God put me in this situation to learn from it.
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And it's something that,
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how does that help shape you as a parent?
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Yeah.
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It's weird because you're growing up.
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with your kids as you're growing up,
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which is crazy because you try to make the best decisions you can,
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but sometimes you don't because you're still a kid growing up too.
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Do you let your kids know that you're not perfect and you're going to make mistakes?
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Definitely.
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Right.
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Definitely.
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And I let them know now that they're getting older and you know,
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my oldest son,
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he's a teenager now.
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And I let him know,
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I'm like,
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listen,
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I've been through the criminal system and I've been in and out of jail before and you don't want to go to...
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through that path and I give him some examples of what I've been through.
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How did that resonate with him?
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How'd he take it?
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Um,
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I feel like he didn't take it seriously.
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And I feel like most kids,
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they don't want to take their parents'
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advice until they actually go through it.
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And I was the same way.
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The hardest thing ever as a parent is watching your kids fail and letting them fail.
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Oh,
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my God.
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Yeah.
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Right?
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Because you're like,
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you know that they're driving the car into a wall.
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You want to step in.
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And you want to step in and help them,
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but that's the worst thing you can do.
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Exactly.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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Because again,
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I learned from all my mistakes.
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What would your kids say about you as a mom?
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I would say they would say I'm smart.
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I'm funny.
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I'm pretty.
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My son,
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Kaiser,
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my 10-year-old,
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he always says how pretty he thinks I am.
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So,
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yeah,
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he's such a sweetheart.
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It's something that kids are the best way to get reviews about things because there's no filter.
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no,
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definitely not.
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Right?
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Definitely not.
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Your kids are going to tell you if something looks good on you,
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if it doesn't look good on you.
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Like when I was a kid,
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I would see,
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I had a great relationship with my mom for years.
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I would see kids that were not nice to their moms.
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And I'd go back to my mom and I'd say,
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how come
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John Smith is like not nice?
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And my mom would be like,
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I don't know,
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honey.
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We don't have that.
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And I just,
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that's something that always resonated with me.
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And that you're a strong-willed person.
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You're fiercely protective of your kids.
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Definitely.
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Right?
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Raised in the public eye.
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How do you think that affected your kids?
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I think right now,
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since MTV has stepped away my two youngest kids,
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I'm giving them like more privacy.
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Because since they stepped away,
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like I'm trying not to post them as much online or like maybe a picture here and there on Instagram,
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but not anything like in their face.
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Because it's like the cameras have been in their face for so long.
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them stepping back and letting them,
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you know,
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just be kids.
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But my oldest one,
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Jace,
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he gets noticed.
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He's 15.
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So he gets noticed a lot of places he goes to and he gets annoyed with it.
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And he just wishes people would know him for him and not because they made the connection with him in the show.
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you know,
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since he was like eight,
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I said,
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listen,
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you're going to have to pick and choose the rest of your life who's
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good enough to be in your life.
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I said,
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because unfortunately you were on this show and people are going to want to be your friend just because you're on the show.
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So there's like a whole nother,
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not just trusting people personally,
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but there's a whole different dynamic to do they watch the show?
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Are they being genuine with me right now?
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Or are they just like,
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I searched this up.
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So I want to be Jason's friend.
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Does he have a good,
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like,
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friend validity detector to know he does and he has a very small close friends like two or three really good friends that he goes to all the time to talk to that's awesome yeah how do you meet those friends school it's awesome yeah it's so good yeah in the neighborhood which it's hard here in vegas because the
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high schools are the high schools for those who don't know we're in las vegas and the school systems here suck a bag of dicks
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I'll just say it.
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It's fine.
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It's awful.
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Like you really,
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it's either you go private or my kids are in public school,
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but we really had to hunt like where to go.
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See,
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he goes,
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well,
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I can't,
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well,
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I'll tell you,
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I'll tell you off air,
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but yeah.
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No one needs to know.
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But yeah,
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just the kids just in the school districts around here,
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they're just like,
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they're all trying to flash money to each other and what they own.
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and
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clothing brands even they wear like if you shop at target you're gonna get like really made fun of yeah yeah it's like they all want name brand everything and it's like my son jace tries to keep up and like yeah it's it's a lot and i'm like and i keep telling him i'm like all this isn't gonna matter when you get out of high school well it's not in a hundred years we're all ashes and dust yeah right and
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like the way i parent it's more about not not like making money for things
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It's about you make money to share experiences with your kids.
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Yeah.
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Take them on trips.
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Yeah,
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that's what I do.
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Right?
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I spend my money on trips for them.
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I get goosebumps.
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That's like the best thing ever.
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Oh,
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definitely.
280
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My daughter goes to a performing arts high school here in town.
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Okay.
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And so she's a theater kid.
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So two years ago,
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I took her to Broadway.
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That's cool.
286
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We saw Hamilton on Broadway.
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Yeah.
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Like winning dad moment ever.
289
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Yeah.
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I was 13 at the time.
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Did that.
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Went to a Yankee game.
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Had a blast.
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I go,
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honey,
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if you ever go down this road.
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here's the pros are here on broadway exactly yeah i took my kids to um
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Broadway,
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when they were my two,
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my stepdaughter and my oldest son,
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I took them to see The Lion King.
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Oh,
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yeah.
304
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Yeah.
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So they love that.
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It's in New York City.
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Great show.
308
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Yeah.
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We're actually,
310
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it's funny.
311
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We're kind of blessed here with the Smith Center that we get decent shows here.
312
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Oh,
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there's shows all around Vegas.
314
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It's crazy because you never need to go anywhere for the concerts.
315
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They always come to you.
316
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It's amazing.
317
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Yeah.
318
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We're very blessed here.
319
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Let's talk about the challenges of raising children in Las Vegas.
320
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Yeah,
321
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definitely.
322
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Yes.
323
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Like with body dysmorphia,
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because you're seeing,
325
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you know,
326
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Tao Beach Club is now hiring girls to work at the tables.
327
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And you're like,
328
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well,
329
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you know,
330
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it's just it's not real life.
331
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It's not right.
332
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And that's why
333
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I like the outside of Vegas as well.
334
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I like going to Mount Charleston,
335
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Lee Canyon.
336
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I want to go to the dunes and check them out.
337
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So and I go hiking,
338
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too.
339
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So it's a lot of fun outside of Vegas,
340
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too,
341
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which a lot of people.
342
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don't realize that it's not just the strip.
343
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I was going to say,
344
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how many people do you know that are like,
345
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oh,
346
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you live in Vegas?
347
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Do you live at
348
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Aria? Do you live at the Venetian?
349
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People have no idea that there is a wonderful myriad of,
350
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there's a bunch of different subcultures.
351
00:11:02.910 --> 00:11:03.644
There is.
352
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North,
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south,
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east,
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west of the strip.
356
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I'm in Henderson,
357
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love it.
358
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And they're 14 years,
359
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but I have friends in Summerlin,
360
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everywhere.
361
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But people that don't live here don't get that.
362
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Yeah.
363
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And people try when they come to visit,
364
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they try to eat like on the strip and do everything on the strip when and they're like,
365
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it's so expensive.
366
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And I'm like,
367
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if you just leave the strip,
368
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it's not that expensive.
369
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Like you get normal food prices.
370
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It's all the chefs that worked on the strip.
371
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And then we're like,
372
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OK,
373
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I've had it with all the corporate bullshit.
374
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I'm going to open up my own place.
375
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Yeah.
376
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And the food is as good or better and cheaper.
377
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For real.
378
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It is.
379
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And they stay open.
380
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Usually there's a lot of places to stay open 24 hours.
381
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How?
382
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spoiled are we that like ever travel somewhere and they go we've got the best peanut butter and jelly sandwiches in the entire you're like no you don't yeah you don't have the best or like barbecue people yeah i've gone to like texas my wife's from georgia we've got the best barbecue i'm like you really don't because there's so many there's so many different
383
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it's so diverse here that everyone comes from everywhere.
384
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Yeah.
385
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You got all this different mixing of like different cultures and foods.
386
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And I love trying all the foods here.
387
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It's,
388
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it's like our Chinatown is awesome.
389
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I haven't been there.
390
00:12:20.779 --> 00:12:21.920
I'm going to Chinatown spring mountain.
391
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No,
392
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we're over here.
393
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Oh,
394
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you got to go.
395
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Yeah.
396
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It's,
397
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I mean,
398
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you can swing a dead cat and hit 45 places that are all amazing.
399
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That are all,
400
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we'll talk after.
401
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It's just like,
402
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it's,
403
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and the thing is,
404
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it's so competitive here.
405
00:12:35.779 --> 00:12:37.279
You've got about a year ish.
406
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And if you don't make it,
407
00:12:38.624 --> 00:12:39.060
you're out.
408
00:12:39.743 --> 00:12:39.863
Oh,
409
00:12:39.903 --> 00:12:40.023
no,
410
00:12:40.163 --> 00:12:40.584
definitely.
411
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Right?
412
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Definitely.
413
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Which a lot of people think,
414
00:12:43.726 --> 00:12:44.069
again,
415
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that they have to stay at the Strip.
416
00:12:46.147 --> 00:12:46.608
And it's like,
417
00:12:46.952 --> 00:12:48.976
there's other business opportunities everywhere.
418
00:12:48.991 --> 00:12:49.116
Oh,
419
00:12:49.132 --> 00:12:49.249
yeah,
420
00:12:49.250 --> 00:12:51.796
and they're building the new studios here.
421
00:12:52.858 --> 00:12:52.976
Yeah,
422
00:12:52.977 --> 00:12:53.179
the new,
423
00:12:53.233 --> 00:12:53.577
what is it,
424
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Sony Studios?
425
00:12:55.140 --> 00:12:55.296
Yeah.
426
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That'll be interesting.
427
00:12:56.633 --> 00:12:58.741
Mark Wahlberg is spearheading that whole thing.
428
00:13:00.257 --> 00:13:01.663
I was in Irvine yesterday,
429
00:13:01.804 --> 00:13:02.101
and it's
430
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Southern California.
431
00:13:03.382 --> 00:13:04.022
People are hemorrhaging.
432
00:13:04.210 --> 00:13:04.647
They're leaving.
433
00:13:04.851 --> 00:13:04.976
Yeah.
434
00:13:04.977 --> 00:13:05.647
The thing I noticed,
435
00:13:05.694 --> 00:13:06.351
I was there yesterday.
436
00:13:06.352 --> 00:13:07.835
I'm looking around here.
437
00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.339
you see a bunch of license plates from different states.
438
00:13:10.739 --> 00:13:11.681
A lot of California.
439
00:13:12.118 --> 00:13:14.462
You'll see other people in California.
440
00:13:14.540 --> 00:13:15.899
It's all California license plates.
441
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Yeah.
442
00:13:17.002 --> 00:13:17.142
Dun,
443
00:13:17.220 --> 00:13:17.384
dun,
444
00:13:17.462 --> 00:13:17.821
dun.
445
00:13:17.822 --> 00:13:18.884
And it's expensive.
446
00:13:18.885 --> 00:13:20.938
Nobody's moving into California.
447
00:13:21.063 --> 00:13:21.243
Yeah.
448
00:13:21.579 --> 00:13:21.884
Right.
449
00:13:22.126 --> 00:13:23.821
And people are leaving.
450
00:13:24.126 --> 00:13:25.470
So now they're looking at
451
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Texas, Georgia,
452
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here to start filming more,
453
00:13:30.704 --> 00:13:30.938
you know,
454
00:13:31.048 --> 00:13:31.438
movies.
455
00:13:31.657 --> 00:13:31.829
Yeah.
456
00:13:31.923 --> 00:13:33.157
I'm really excited about that.
457
00:13:33.251 --> 00:13:34.392
I think that that is.
458
00:13:34.851 --> 00:13:35.792
To say like we're going to be,
459
00:13:35.972 --> 00:13:36.813
they say Hollywood 2.0.
460
00:13:36.832 --> 00:13:38.213
I'd rather say Las Vegas.
461
00:13:38.214 --> 00:13:38.715
Yeah.
462
00:13:38.716 --> 00:13:40.217
It's just going to be more entertainment.
463
00:13:40.237 --> 00:13:42.120
We're already the sports entertainment capital of the world.
464
00:13:42.577 --> 00:13:44.022
This is a whole nother thing that,
465
00:13:44.358 --> 00:13:45.444
God bless Mark Wahlberg.
466
00:13:46.303 --> 00:13:46.905
He's the guy.
467
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No,
468
00:13:47.381 --> 00:13:47.506
no,
469
00:13:47.584 --> 00:13:48.444
it's going to be amazing.
470
00:13:48.827 --> 00:13:48.967
Right.
471
00:13:48.968 --> 00:13:52.842
I'm really excited to see it and see like what movies are going to come out of that.
472
00:13:52.889 --> 00:13:54.327
Because in North Carolina,
473
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we do have Screen Gem Studios over there.
474
00:13:56.389 --> 00:13:56.608
Okay.
475
00:13:56.749 --> 00:13:58.389
So a lot of things were filmed like,
476
00:14:00.092 --> 00:14:01.092
was it Iron Man?
477
00:14:02.061 --> 00:14:02.811
And then...
478
00:14:04.615 --> 00:14:29.522
safe haven i don't know you don't it's well it was a nicholas cage book and then they made it into a movie i know that so south carolina i think is where they filmed righteous gemstones yeah you watch that show no i've heard of it i i know and i know who's in it i know who stars in it and i'm much about it is a national treasure that should be protected at all costs he's fucking hilarious and
479
00:14:29.694 --> 00:14:33.709
you need to watch righteous gemstones actually was an extra in eastbound and down.
480
00:14:33.827 --> 00:14:48.198
we really yeah i had my wife and i just binge watched the entire thing that's so funny what what episode was do you remember it's when they were about to head to myrtle beach and they were on a bowling league right on yeah really yeah good for you because they came into wilmington north carolina and they were filming
481
00:14:48.779 --> 00:14:49.519
And they were like,
482
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you know what?
483
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We're looking for extras.
484
00:14:51.921 --> 00:14:54.279
And they posted it online and I filled it out and everything.
485
00:14:54.280 --> 00:14:56.119
And then they chose me and my best friend.
486
00:14:56.439 --> 00:14:58.904
We went there for like three days and we were extras.
487
00:14:58.959 --> 00:14:59.459
But then,
488
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you know,
489
00:15:00.459 --> 00:15:02.302
Danny McBride came over to me and he was like,
490
00:15:02.685 --> 00:15:04.365
Teen Mom is like one of my favorite shows.
491
00:15:04.701 --> 00:15:05.138
I was like,
492
00:15:05.185 --> 00:15:05.779
no way.
493
00:15:05.888 --> 00:15:06.279
He's like,
494
00:15:06.310 --> 00:15:06.529
yeah.
495
00:15:06.998 --> 00:15:08.888
And then they wanted to give me a permanent role.
496
00:15:09.404 --> 00:15:10.857
But my MTV producer said,
497
00:15:10.904 --> 00:15:11.029
no,
498
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because you're under contract with us.
499
00:15:12.826 --> 00:15:13.263
Bastards.
500
00:15:13.545 --> 00:15:13.966
And I was like,
501
00:15:13.982 --> 00:15:14.998
I could have done both.
502
00:15:15.685 --> 00:15:15.998
Like.
503
00:15:16.471 --> 00:15:17.232
That would have been great,
504
00:15:17.252 --> 00:15:18.774
but maybe they thought they would have lost me.
505
00:15:19.075 --> 00:15:19.254
Dude,
506
00:15:19.313 --> 00:15:19.694
he's a,
507
00:15:20.315 --> 00:15:20.555
him,
508
00:15:20.754 --> 00:15:21.676
Walton Goggins,
509
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national treasure.
510
00:15:23.457 --> 00:15:23.657
Yeah.
511
00:15:23.899 --> 00:15:25.219
Walton Goggins is a national treasure.
512
00:15:25.258 --> 00:15:25.383
Yeah,
513
00:15:25.602 --> 00:15:25.719
you,
514
00:15:26.063 --> 00:15:26.703
we'll talk after,
515
00:15:26.719 --> 00:15:27.766
but you have to watch,
516
00:15:27.805 --> 00:15:29.227
you have to watch Righteous Gemstones.
517
00:15:29.844 --> 00:15:30.805
All right.
518
00:15:30.907 --> 00:15:33.188
You've been a mom your entire adult life,
519
00:15:33.547 --> 00:15:34.594
always under the microscope.
520
00:15:35.422 --> 00:15:44.922
What's one thing about being a young mom on reality TV that you think people still get totally wrong about you and your parenting?
521
00:15:46.295 --> 00:15:47.535
I think a lot of people,
522
00:15:48.195 --> 00:15:49.776
they just automatically assume.
523
00:15:49.856 --> 00:15:51.235
I think the number one thing is that
524
00:15:51.574 --> 00:15:52.918
I don't have custody of my kids,
525
00:15:54.035 --> 00:15:54.340
which
526
00:15:55.199 --> 00:15:56.981
I see a lot of comments like,
527
00:15:57.481 --> 00:15:59.035
you need to go watch your kids.
528
00:15:59.059 --> 00:16:01.074
You need to make sure they're okay.
529
00:16:01.176 --> 00:16:01.918
And it's like,
530
00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:03.293
I'm with them every single day.
531
00:16:03.965 --> 00:16:04.637
Every single day,
532
00:16:04.824 --> 00:16:05.903
I'm the one picking them up,
533
00:16:05.965 --> 00:16:06.606
dropping them off.
534
00:16:06.637 --> 00:16:07.699
I'm a single mom now.
535
00:16:08.153 --> 00:16:09.762
Been a single mom since I've been in Vegas.
536
00:16:09.824 --> 00:16:10.824
So really,
537
00:16:10.856 --> 00:16:11.856
I do it all on my own.
538
00:16:12.387 --> 00:16:13.621
And it's all on my shoulders,
539
00:16:13.684 --> 00:16:14.699
which I'm not complaining.
540
00:16:14.762 --> 00:16:15.199
I'm glad.
541
00:16:15.711 --> 00:16:18.312
And I'm a lot more peaceful in life,
542
00:16:18.351 --> 00:16:22.271
like without having a man there than having a man there.
543
00:16:22.294 --> 00:16:24.755
And I feel like that everyone's not walking on eggshells,
544
00:16:24.756 --> 00:16:25.013
you know?
545
00:16:26.450 --> 00:16:27.693
And your kids,
546
00:16:27.950 --> 00:16:28.396
I hope,
547
00:16:28.716 --> 00:16:30.114
see the work you're putting in.
548
00:16:30.935 --> 00:16:31.372
Definitely.
549
00:16:31.513 --> 00:16:31.700
Right?
550
00:16:31.701 --> 00:16:32.013
They are.
551
00:16:32.216 --> 00:16:35.591
And if they just like hear that I'm talk over,
552
00:16:35.654 --> 00:16:36.357
if they overhear,
553
00:16:37.919 --> 00:16:42.560
if they overhear me talking on the phone and if we're talking about like,
554
00:16:42.575 --> 00:16:44.279
if I'm talking about haters comments or whatever.
555
00:16:44.775 --> 00:16:45.375
My son,
556
00:16:45.435 --> 00:16:45.756
he's like,
557
00:16:45.775 --> 00:16:47.076
why is everyone so mean to you,
558
00:16:47.115 --> 00:16:47.576
mom?
559
00:16:47.797 --> 00:16:48.377
And I'm like,
560
00:16:48.756 --> 00:16:49.517
don't worry about it.
561
00:16:49.756 --> 00:16:50.416
It's okay.
562
00:16:51.357 --> 00:16:52.756
So like my other younger kids,
563
00:16:52.757 --> 00:16:53.740
they don't have social media.
564
00:16:54.201 --> 00:16:55.474
Do you read the comments?
565
00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:56.857
I post.
566
00:16:57.638 --> 00:16:59.178
I read a little bit here and there,
567
00:16:59.279 --> 00:17:01.443
but like usually I post and that's it.
568
00:17:01.974 --> 00:17:03.959
Because if you sit there and start reading comments,
569
00:17:04.037 --> 00:17:05.443
you go down this rabbit hole.
570
00:17:05.615 --> 00:17:08.334
And instead of all the good comments standing out to you,
571
00:17:08.584 --> 00:17:10.834
all the bad comments are just going to stand out.
572
00:17:11.193 --> 00:17:13.381
Those are the ones that are going to scream in your head.
573
00:17:13.663 --> 00:17:15.825
And then all of a sudden you're depressed and you're like,
574
00:17:15.866 --> 00:17:16.545
I'm in a bad mood.
575
00:17:17.127 --> 00:17:17.729
And then you're like,
576
00:17:17.730 --> 00:17:18.428
no one talked to me.
577
00:17:19.307 --> 00:17:19.530
It's,
578
00:17:20.690 --> 00:17:21.651
it's so toxic.
579
00:17:21.768 --> 00:17:22.854
A lot of times it's bots.
580
00:17:23.135 --> 00:17:24.049
It's not even a real person.
581
00:17:24.416 --> 00:17:24.534
Yeah.
582
00:17:24.573 --> 00:17:25.112
I noticed that.
583
00:17:25.174 --> 00:17:25.393
Right.
584
00:17:26.213 --> 00:17:27.659
And so something I've learned to do,
585
00:17:27.737 --> 00:17:29.120
cause I've been a content creator for years.
586
00:17:29.159 --> 00:17:30.096
I have clients that are,
587
00:17:30.252 --> 00:17:34.237
and it's something that you post and maybe do a comment saying,
588
00:17:34.238 --> 00:17:34.502
you know,
589
00:17:35.049 --> 00:17:37.784
let's see your comments and then don't look at it again.
590
00:17:38.311 --> 00:17:39.733
I'll reply to some fans and be like,
591
00:17:39.793 --> 00:17:40.553
thank you for that.
592
00:17:40.653 --> 00:17:41.354
Thank you for this.
593
00:17:41.415 --> 00:17:43.417
But I only reply to positive people.
594
00:17:43.635 --> 00:17:43.796
Good.
595
00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:43.975
Yeah.
596
00:17:44.096 --> 00:17:44.897
Because I feel like,
597
00:17:44.898 --> 00:17:45.139
you know,
598
00:17:45.178 --> 00:17:46.479
you just can't feed into the negative.
599
00:17:46.503 --> 00:17:49.245
Don't give it's it's my wife told me this.
600
00:17:49.385 --> 00:17:51.565
It's validating to the trolls.
601
00:17:52.464 --> 00:17:52.745
You know,
602
00:17:52.846 --> 00:17:54.604
if you if you're talking to,
603
00:17:54.807 --> 00:17:55.042
you know,
604
00:17:55.370 --> 00:18:01.495
wife beater 1945 and and he says something harmful to you when you're clapping back,
605
00:18:01.589 --> 00:18:03.057
you're never going to change his mind.
606
00:18:03.479 --> 00:18:03.589
No.
607
00:18:04.227 --> 00:18:32.818
you know he's just gonna keep going and it's validating for him she replied back he's gonna reply every time yeah yeah and so it's it's something like i saw with like this stuff that farah and i have had some stuff that's gone viral she does not reply to any of it yeah and there's been a ton of not nice stuff about her and the thing is i never met her before in my entire life never watched teen mom she was wonderful yeah we had a great conversation pre-production call she's nothing but professional no i think she's doing great now and i have nothing but good things to say about her.
608
00:18:33.515 --> 00:18:34.777
Let's talk a little bit about,
609
00:18:35.437 --> 00:18:36.238
was that two weeks ago?
610
00:18:37.259 --> 00:18:37.679
I think so,
611
00:18:37.738 --> 00:18:37.859
yeah.
612
00:18:38.082 --> 00:18:39.261
How did that all come about?
613
00:18:39.543 --> 00:18:42.527
Because you guys were not good for a very long time.
614
00:18:42.902 --> 00:18:43.503
Next thing I know,
615
00:18:43.902 --> 00:18:46.652
you're at Virgin Hotels enjoying Mexican food.
616
00:18:47.207 --> 00:18:47.386
Well,
617
00:18:47.472 --> 00:18:50.949
I reached out to her and she was in town and I found out she was in town.
618
00:18:50.996 --> 00:18:51.355
I was like,
619
00:18:51.356 --> 00:18:52.980
do you want to go have dinner?
620
00:18:53.058 --> 00:18:53.418
She said,
621
00:18:53.496 --> 00:18:53.761
sure.
622
00:18:54.371 --> 00:19:01.543
And we agreed that we just wanted to hash the beef out over dinner and everything was fine.
623
00:19:01.668 --> 00:19:02.480
She's doing great.
624
00:19:03.111 --> 00:19:03.351
Um,
625
00:19:03.472 --> 00:19:04.112
she's sober.
626
00:19:04.553 --> 00:19:04.892
Um,
627
00:19:05.314 --> 00:19:05.574
you know,
628
00:19:05.594 --> 00:19:07.295
I was drinking a bunch of cocktails.
629
00:19:07.314 --> 00:19:08.396
She was drinking mocktails,
630
00:19:08.416 --> 00:19:09.056
which is great.
631
00:19:09.756 --> 00:19:10.056
And,
632
00:19:10.119 --> 00:19:10.240
um,
633
00:19:10.279 --> 00:19:12.959
she's been getting the therapy that she needs and she's putting herself first.
634
00:19:12.998 --> 00:19:16.982
So what prompted you to make the first move?
635
00:19:17.482 --> 00:19:17.982
It's awesome.
636
00:19:18.545 --> 00:19:20.873
That's like super cool for you to say that you did that.
637
00:19:21.404 --> 00:19:21.545
What,
638
00:19:21.623 --> 00:19:22.482
what prompted that?
639
00:19:23.248 --> 00:19:23.451
Well,
640
00:19:23.498 --> 00:19:27.795
I feel like it's been such a long time and we're both mature now.
641
00:19:27.857 --> 00:19:29.139
We're both older now.
642
00:19:29.701 --> 00:19:29.857
Um,
643
00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:32.435
we're both working on ourselves And I feel like.
644
00:19:32.783 --> 00:19:35.345
that we would have been able to relate in that way.
645
00:19:35.665 --> 00:19:39.191
So just wanted to reach out and see if she was up for it.
646
00:19:39.531 --> 00:19:39.929
How'd it feel?
647
00:19:40.550 --> 00:19:41.074
It felt good.
648
00:19:41.495 --> 00:19:41.628
Yeah,
649
00:19:41.753 --> 00:19:43.316
especially because things went so well.
650
00:19:45.792 --> 00:19:47.120
It's nice to mend fences.
651
00:19:48.040 --> 00:19:48.480
Definitely.
652
00:19:48.601 --> 00:19:48.801
Right?
653
00:19:49.001 --> 00:19:49.421
Definitely.
654
00:19:49.802 --> 00:19:49.921
Yeah,
655
00:19:49.942 --> 00:19:51.263
I don't like to keep grudges either.
656
00:19:52.445 --> 00:19:55.867
That is something that will erode away at the fiber of your soul.
657
00:19:56.050 --> 00:19:56.589
Exactly.
658
00:19:57.050 --> 00:19:57.386
That is,
659
00:19:57.433 --> 00:19:57.668
I mean,
660
00:19:57.707 --> 00:19:59.449
people overuse the word toxic,
661
00:19:59.535 --> 00:20:00.589
but that's toxic.
662
00:20:00.855 --> 00:20:03.097
But I also forgive too easily as well.
663
00:20:03.293 --> 00:20:03.699
Do you really?
664
00:20:04.074 --> 00:20:04.277
Yeah,
665
00:20:04.543 --> 00:20:04.949
always.
666
00:20:05.261 --> 00:20:05.793
All the time.
667
00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:07.011
I give like 50,
668
00:20:07.339 --> 00:20:08.574
60 chances to people.
669
00:20:09.308 --> 00:20:09.621
How come?
670
00:20:10.386 --> 00:20:13.558
I think it's because I think that either if I'm dating someone,
671
00:20:13.621 --> 00:20:14.449
I can change them.
672
00:20:15.043 --> 00:20:16.793
Or I think that they'll change.
673
00:20:17.196 --> 00:20:20.178
And they'll see what they did wrong to me after they apologized.
674
00:20:20.619 --> 00:20:23.104
But usually it's not like that.
675
00:20:23.221 --> 00:20:23.604
They don't?
676
00:20:23.881 --> 00:20:24.002
No.
677
00:20:24.342 --> 00:20:28.784
Is that you're talking about like friendships or relationships with guys or both?
678
00:20:28.971 --> 00:20:29.229
Both.
679
00:20:29.330 --> 00:20:29.651
Really?
680
00:20:29.909 --> 00:20:30.088
Yeah,
681
00:20:30.229 --> 00:20:30.510
both.
682
00:20:30.573 --> 00:20:30.909
Definitely.
683
00:20:30.910 --> 00:20:31.112
Huh.
684
00:20:31.432 --> 00:20:31.588
Yeah.
685
00:20:31.690 --> 00:20:31.987
Is that,
686
00:20:31.988 --> 00:20:32.354
do you think,
687
00:20:32.369 --> 00:20:33.205
how you were raised?
688
00:20:33.252 --> 00:20:33.846
Is that why?
689
00:20:34.612 --> 00:20:34.768
Yeah,
690
00:20:34.877 --> 00:20:37.534
I think it's because I've always seen good in people.
691
00:20:37.784 --> 00:20:38.112
And
692
00:20:39.002 --> 00:20:41.752
I always give the people the benefit of the doubt when I first meet them.
693
00:20:41.862 --> 00:20:42.205
Like,
694
00:20:42.659 --> 00:20:44.830
I'm just going to be super nice and open and honest.
695
00:20:44.909 --> 00:20:46.549
And hopefully I get the same energy.
696
00:20:46.980 --> 00:20:47.841
And sometimes I don't.
697
00:20:47.861 --> 00:20:48.641
And sometimes
698
00:20:49.503 --> 00:20:51.124
I won't even do anything wrong.
699
00:20:51.424 --> 00:20:53.104
And it'll just be my first impression.
700
00:20:53.667 --> 00:20:55.307
And then like some of the girls on the show,
701
00:20:56.253 --> 00:20:59.229
they have never really wanted to hang out with me.
702
00:20:59.870 --> 00:21:03.284
Or when we were like in like the reunion shows,
703
00:21:03.362 --> 00:21:03.909
like with Dr.
704
00:21:03.956 --> 00:21:04.190
Drew,
705
00:21:04.596 --> 00:21:08.003
like they never really said hi to me unless we were on stage together.
706
00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:09.174
And other than that,
707
00:21:09.299 --> 00:21:10.096
outside of that,
708
00:21:10.128 --> 00:21:11.096
they would text each other,
709
00:21:11.331 --> 00:21:12.487
but we wouldn't text.
710
00:21:12.784 --> 00:21:14.549
So it was a lot of like mean girl energy,
711
00:21:14.909 --> 00:21:15.768
high school energy.
712
00:21:16.174 --> 00:21:16.534
And
713
00:21:17.088 --> 00:21:17.849
I just like,
714
00:21:18.230 --> 00:21:18.589
I don't know.
715
00:21:18.770 --> 00:21:19.591
I'm just not like that.
716
00:21:19.890 --> 00:21:20.331
Why do you,
717
00:21:20.332 --> 00:21:20.892
I mean,
718
00:21:20.933 --> 00:21:21.792
when I hear that,
719
00:21:22.515 --> 00:21:24.554
I'm making the assumption of perceiving you as a threat.
720
00:21:26.093 --> 00:21:27.640
I don't think I'm a threat.
721
00:21:27.718 --> 00:21:29.484
I think I'm just very opinionated.
722
00:21:29.640 --> 00:21:29.984
And
723
00:21:31.781 --> 00:21:33.406
I think it's all about their reputations,
724
00:21:33.437 --> 00:21:33.890
honestly,
725
00:21:34.109 --> 00:21:34.249
too.
726
00:21:34.952 --> 00:21:35.984
Because it's like,
727
00:21:36.562 --> 00:21:36.781
you know,
728
00:21:36.827 --> 00:21:37.343
with Farrah,
729
00:21:37.421 --> 00:21:41.234
a lot of the girls don't associate with her just because of her reputation.
730
00:21:41.687 --> 00:21:45.202
When really it's been years since then and they should drop it and let it go.
731
00:21:45.868 --> 00:21:46.749
And I'm the same way.
732
00:21:46.909 --> 00:21:48.471
But most of the other girls are like,
733
00:21:49.151 --> 00:21:49.272
no,
734
00:21:49.471 --> 00:21:50.893
they still have a bad reputation.
735
00:21:50.913 --> 00:21:51.995
I don't want nothing to do with that.
736
00:21:52.834 --> 00:21:53.057
Petty.
737
00:21:53.436 --> 00:21:53.616
Yeah,
738
00:21:53.756 --> 00:21:54.213
it is.
739
00:21:54.354 --> 00:21:58.479
It is because I'm all open arms and I'm not as bad as people think.
740
00:21:59.862 --> 00:22:02.862
Why is it that people think that way about you?
741
00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:06.081
I think because the way the show was edited,
742
00:22:06.815 --> 00:22:07.893
it was highly edited.
743
00:22:07.987 --> 00:22:11.971
And a lot of the scenes that was put in was me and my mom arguing.
744
00:22:12.588 --> 00:22:14.310
or me having an attitude with my mom.
745
00:22:14.390 --> 00:22:15.551
So I think a lot of people,
746
00:22:17.113 --> 00:22:17.773
they were like,
747
00:22:17.933 --> 00:22:19.293
if I meet her for the first time,
748
00:22:19.316 --> 00:22:20.476
she's probably going to be mean,
749
00:22:20.558 --> 00:22:22.316
or she's probably that way all the time.
750
00:22:22.840 --> 00:22:25.980
When really they would come down every other weekend,
751
00:22:26.222 --> 00:22:26.785
maybe once,
752
00:22:26.863 --> 00:22:27.902
twice a month to film.
753
00:22:28.465 --> 00:22:29.269
And it would be like,
754
00:22:29.504 --> 00:22:30.426
just for the weekend,
755
00:22:30.644 --> 00:22:31.144
that's it.
756
00:22:31.769 --> 00:22:36.551
And they would do that for about four or five months and then cram that into a season.
757
00:22:36.926 --> 00:22:38.457
So really you don't,
758
00:22:39.097 --> 00:22:41.504
it's not like Jersey Shore where there's cameras all the time.
759
00:22:41.668 --> 00:22:47.935
You're not going to be able to really see a person's true personality if you don't got a camera on them all the time like them.
760
00:22:48.536 --> 00:22:54.681
I feel like you can get an understanding of the Jersey Shore cast personalities,
761
00:22:54.759 --> 00:22:58.720
but you can't understand the teen moms because it's just so edited.
762
00:22:59.251 --> 00:22:59.751
And for them,
763
00:22:59.798 --> 00:23:02.407
it's like kind of raw and organic and genuine,
764
00:23:02.611 --> 00:23:03.126
I feel like.
765
00:23:04.767 --> 00:23:07.157
Were producers ever like say like you and your mom,
766
00:23:08.142 --> 00:23:10.814
were they ever like goading you on to like?
767
00:23:11.224 --> 00:23:26.519
foster a fight or an argument whether with your mom or other you know other teen moms on the show well when we're separate say that me and my mom said they okay say they went to my mom's house first and they went there without me they would say hey you
768
00:23:26.558 --> 00:23:39.253
should talk about how you don't like janelle and her husband being together and then she would talk about it give her opinion which would be bad then they'd come to me and be like hey we heard your mom said this you want to talk to your husband about it.
769
00:23:39.684 --> 00:23:45.550
So then it would be me talking about my mom badly and then back to back my mom talking badly about me.
770
00:23:46.249 --> 00:23:50.718
So then we would both get mad at each other after that aired because we both didn't know we filmed that.
771
00:23:51.374 --> 00:23:55.038
And then certain things that my son would hear,
772
00:23:55.280 --> 00:23:56.437
my 15-year-old son now,
773
00:23:56.499 --> 00:23:57.718
but when he was younger,
774
00:23:57.843 --> 00:24:00.671
he would hear my mom say a lot of bad things.
775
00:24:00.718 --> 00:24:02.483
And then he would repeat it on the show.
776
00:24:03.140 --> 00:24:04.108
And then everyone's like,
777
00:24:04.249 --> 00:24:04.374
oh,
778
00:24:04.405 --> 00:24:05.608
this is how he really feels.
779
00:24:05.624 --> 00:24:06.030
And I'm like,
780
00:24:06.031 --> 00:24:06.155
no,
781
00:24:06.171 --> 00:24:09.187
he's a five-year-old hearing all these bad things.
782
00:24:09.560 --> 00:24:11.341
Then he gets a camera in front of him and he's like,
783
00:24:11.421 --> 00:24:11.543
oh,
784
00:24:11.683 --> 00:24:13.644
I'm going to repeat everything she says,
785
00:24:13.703 --> 00:24:15.207
like kind of for show.
786
00:24:16.085 --> 00:24:18.168
And it was just,
787
00:24:18.949 --> 00:24:23.597
it was hard growing up like that because my mom also had custody for a while.
788
00:24:24.355 --> 00:24:26.199
So when she had custody for a while,
789
00:24:26.261 --> 00:24:27.043
then it was like,
790
00:24:27.511 --> 00:24:29.574
I'm trying to control the situation with Jason,
791
00:24:29.605 --> 00:24:32.636
the cameras and trying to talk to my producers and say,
792
00:24:32.980 --> 00:24:33.121
hey,
793
00:24:33.136 --> 00:24:36.152
we should do this and we should do that and suggest positive things.
794
00:24:36.511 --> 00:24:37.214
But they were like,
795
00:24:37.261 --> 00:24:37.386
no,
796
00:24:37.433 --> 00:24:38.293
we got.
797
00:24:38.540 --> 00:24:40.282
We got a plan already that we're sticking to.
798
00:24:40.942 --> 00:24:44.788
Were you always kind of just put a wall?
799
00:24:45.366 --> 00:24:48.807
Did the producers always put a wall up whenever you tried to?
800
00:24:49.450 --> 00:24:51.072
take things in a positive direction?
801
00:24:51.973 --> 00:24:52.152
Yeah,
802
00:24:52.353 --> 00:24:52.693
they would.
803
00:24:53.154 --> 00:24:54.996
Because not only with me,
804
00:24:55.176 --> 00:24:56.355
but like even the other girls,
805
00:24:56.379 --> 00:24:58.402
like we've suggested really good things like,
806
00:24:58.863 --> 00:24:59.043
hey,
807
00:24:59.121 --> 00:25:04.285
we should all get involved and like go to a charity together for like unplanned pregnancy or,
808
00:25:04.683 --> 00:25:04.941
you know,
809
00:25:05.285 --> 00:25:06.488
pregnancy prevention,
810
00:25:06.566 --> 00:25:06.848
you know,
811
00:25:06.926 --> 00:25:07.582
for teens.
812
00:25:08.082 --> 00:25:08.754
And like,
813
00:25:09.754 --> 00:25:11.879
we just never use our spotlight in that way,
814
00:25:12.098 --> 00:25:13.535
which that's what it should have been used for.
815
00:25:13.879 --> 00:25:16.754
Best pregnancy prevention is just show them somebody else's kid.
816
00:25:17.660 --> 00:25:17.816
Yeah,
817
00:25:18.051 --> 00:25:18.176
yeah,
818
00:25:18.301 --> 00:25:18.660
that too.
819
00:25:19.246 --> 00:25:20.648
She has birth control in the goddamn world.
820
00:25:20.707 --> 00:25:21.008
I know,
821
00:25:21.209 --> 00:25:21.709
all the time.
822
00:25:21.828 --> 00:25:25.014
Give him a shitty kid screaming at Target.
823
00:25:25.252 --> 00:25:25.373
Yeah.
824
00:25:25.374 --> 00:25:26.014
Screaming at Target.
825
00:25:26.131 --> 00:25:26.572
Exactly.
826
00:25:27.194 --> 00:25:28.154
And then you'll be just fine.
827
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:29.717
You'll never want to have kids ever,
828
00:25:29.998 --> 00:25:30.514
ever again.
829
00:25:30.819 --> 00:25:30.959
Yeah.
830
00:25:31.358 --> 00:25:36.381
Do you think it was the MTV producers trying to sensationalize things to say,
831
00:25:36.490 --> 00:25:36.647
well,
832
00:25:36.662 --> 00:25:36.787
no,
833
00:25:36.803 --> 00:25:37.584
we need this,
834
00:25:38.022 --> 00:25:38.287
you know,
835
00:25:38.350 --> 00:25:40.569
this flammable environment?
836
00:25:41.194 --> 00:25:41.303
Yeah,
837
00:25:41.350 --> 00:25:41.834
I think so.
838
00:25:41.912 --> 00:25:43.053
I think they needed a villain.
839
00:25:43.709 --> 00:25:44.225
Just like,
840
00:25:44.412 --> 00:25:44.678
you know,
841
00:25:44.709 --> 00:25:45.772
I was on Teen Mom 1,
842
00:25:45.773 --> 00:25:46.209
but then there's,
843
00:25:46.350 --> 00:25:46.569
I mean,
844
00:25:46.600 --> 00:25:47.490
I was on Teen Mom 2.
845
00:25:47.950 --> 00:25:49.870
But there was Teen Mom OG as well.
846
00:25:50.391 --> 00:25:51.790
And then there's Amber on there.
847
00:25:51.972 --> 00:25:54.651
And I think they had her as the villain,
848
00:25:55.233 --> 00:25:56.214
which she's done.
849
00:25:56.831 --> 00:26:00.472
She's done way worse and more questionable things than me.
850
00:26:00.776 --> 00:26:02.472
But at the same time,
851
00:26:02.495 --> 00:26:03.315
I don't think that
852
00:26:03.690 --> 00:26:07.198
I was deserve that treatment because of the person I became today.
853
00:26:07.401 --> 00:26:09.479
And then even even now,
854
00:26:09.573 --> 00:26:13.511
like I filmed last summer with them and that was my most recent.
855
00:26:13.954 --> 00:26:15.576
And it was only for like two months.
856
00:26:15.676 --> 00:26:17.397
And then they decided they didn't want me anymore,
857
00:26:17.458 --> 00:26:18.159
which is fine.
858
00:26:18.377 --> 00:26:19.178
I'm fine with that.
859
00:26:19.241 --> 00:26:20.420
I'm doing my own thing anyways.
860
00:26:20.979 --> 00:26:25.307
But it goes to show that if you don't have enough drama in your life,
861
00:26:25.526 --> 00:26:27.104
that they don't want anything to do with you.
862
00:26:27.549 --> 00:26:33.448
Brittany went to Young for Life Wellness and is now sabotaging my entire Tired Dad brand.
863
00:26:33.901 --> 00:26:35.057
Totally disrespectful.
864
00:26:35.979 --> 00:26:38.245
We could help you upgrade that brand.
865
00:26:38.823 --> 00:26:39.354
That's fine.
866
00:26:39.542 --> 00:26:40.948
But I'm drawing the line at Kale.
867
00:26:40.949 --> 00:26:41.323
Fine.
868
00:26:42.702 --> 00:26:43.663
I'll play devil's advocate.
869
00:26:43.703 --> 00:26:44.364
I get that.
870
00:26:44.624 --> 00:26:48.329
Like they need some sizzle to the steak.
871
00:26:48.868 --> 00:26:49.810
But also it's like,
872
00:26:49.950 --> 00:26:52.208
why not talk about the positive part?
873
00:26:52.231 --> 00:26:53.231
Because I mean,
874
00:26:53.395 --> 00:26:53.731
my God,
875
00:26:53.770 --> 00:26:55.231
what's the teen pregnancy rate?
876
00:26:55.232 --> 00:26:57.114
There's a lot of girls out there.
877
00:26:57.356 --> 00:26:57.739
There is.
878
00:26:57.895 --> 00:26:58.419
Unwed,
879
00:26:59.919 --> 00:27:00.419
15,
880
00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:01.685
16 years old,
881
00:27:02.106 --> 00:27:02.763
getting pregnant.
882
00:27:02.966 --> 00:27:03.216
Yes.
883
00:27:03.544 --> 00:27:05.966
And how about some positive role models?
884
00:27:08.185 --> 00:27:10.716
If you had the chance to do more of a positive thing,
885
00:27:11.122 --> 00:27:12.185
what type of message?
886
00:27:12.602 --> 00:27:14.484
would you want to put out?
887
00:27:14.504 --> 00:27:20.191
What type of soapbox would you be on to talk to somebody that,
888
00:27:20.808 --> 00:27:22.090
I've never said this before in my entire life,
889
00:27:22.091 --> 00:27:22.933
I'm 55 years old.
890
00:27:23.254 --> 00:27:24.777
If I was a pregnant 16-year-old girl,
891
00:27:27.980 --> 00:27:30.543
and the guy was maybe there a little bit,
892
00:27:30.605 --> 00:27:31.308
my parents,
893
00:27:31.355 --> 00:27:33.668
we're still trying to figure ourselves out because the whole thing.
894
00:27:34.543 --> 00:27:36.699
What kind of advice would you give to me?
895
00:27:37.840 --> 00:27:38.449
I would say,
896
00:27:39.215 --> 00:27:40.386
learn your independence now.
897
00:27:41.186 --> 00:27:46.250
And learn you can't rely on anybody but yourself and that your parents aren't there to be your crutch.
898
00:27:47.031 --> 00:27:48.914
And you got to force yourself to grow up,
899
00:27:49.711 --> 00:27:51.274
whether it's with him or without him.
900
00:27:51.914 --> 00:27:53.477
And you got to be strong enough to do that.
901
00:27:53.516 --> 00:27:54.039
And it's hard.
902
00:27:54.281 --> 00:27:55.617
That's having that strength.
903
00:27:55.844 --> 00:27:56.024
Yeah.
904
00:27:57.024 --> 00:27:57.899
My friend is like,
905
00:27:58.242 --> 00:27:58.367
oh,
906
00:27:58.368 --> 00:27:58.805
my God.
907
00:27:58.977 --> 00:28:01.461
Like you're you'll show at that.
908
00:28:01.508 --> 00:28:01.742
Again,
909
00:28:01.820 --> 00:28:02.961
I have my stepdaughter,
910
00:28:03.008 --> 00:28:03.414
16.
911
00:28:03.415 --> 00:28:04.227
My daughter is 15.
912
00:28:04.555 --> 00:28:05.711
The hormones going on,
913
00:28:05.712 --> 00:28:07.211
the body changes that are going on.
914
00:28:07.305 --> 00:28:08.195
It's like a lot.
915
00:28:08.746 --> 00:28:15.274
So add all that and you've got a baby baking inside of you and you're still trying to figure out relationship with your parents.
916
00:28:16.114 --> 00:28:25.528
And how much of it do you think the parents or the role the parents played in their kids,
917
00:28:25.622 --> 00:28:26.637
the teen moms,
918
00:28:27.622 --> 00:28:28.262
you included,
919
00:28:28.872 --> 00:28:29.668
coming out as either
920
00:28:30.043 --> 00:28:31.747
I'm good or man,
921
00:28:31.762 --> 00:28:32.997
I'm like an untethered sail.
922
00:28:33.043 --> 00:28:34.293
I just don't know what I'm doing.
923
00:28:35.059 --> 00:28:36.028
I think that.
924
00:28:37.450 --> 00:28:38.531
I think at first,
925
00:28:38.591 --> 00:28:38.831
maybe,
926
00:28:39.632 --> 00:28:40.533
maybe initially,
927
00:28:40.712 --> 00:28:45.341
like your parents can show you a little bit of pointers here and there when the baby is first born.
928
00:28:45.419 --> 00:28:55.294
But I think ultimately the parents should step back and let them learn it because I feel like my mom was too involved where she pushed me out kind of.
929
00:28:55.763 --> 00:28:56.482
And it was like,
930
00:28:56.513 --> 00:28:58.544
instead of me learning things on my own,
931
00:28:59.076 --> 00:28:59.779
she didn't want,
932
00:28:59.935 --> 00:29:02.279
she wanted to be the one to do everything.
933
00:29:03.029 --> 00:29:03.998
And I feel like
934
00:29:04.498 --> 00:29:06.513
I wasn't really given that opportunity until.
935
00:29:07.050 --> 00:29:07.671
My younger son,
936
00:29:07.751 --> 00:29:08.031
Kaiser,
937
00:29:08.051 --> 00:29:08.412
was born.
938
00:29:09.693 --> 00:29:12.094
Can you give me an example of how she tried to push?
939
00:29:13.176 --> 00:29:16.543
So the first few days he came home,
940
00:29:16.676 --> 00:29:17.738
I was making a bottle,
941
00:29:17.777 --> 00:29:19.840
and she told me I wasn't doing it the right way.
942
00:29:20.262 --> 00:29:22.027
So then I did it the right way after that,
943
00:29:22.043 --> 00:29:23.551
and it still wasn't good enough.
944
00:29:24.473 --> 00:29:26.176
I would put certain outfits on him,
945
00:29:26.207 --> 00:29:26.957
and she'd be like,
946
00:29:26.988 --> 00:29:27.113
no,
947
00:29:27.473 --> 00:29:28.410
he doesn't look good in that.
948
00:29:28.457 --> 00:29:29.129
I'm changing it,
949
00:29:29.144 --> 00:29:30.316
and change his whole outfit.
950
00:29:30.769 --> 00:29:31.410
And I'm like,
951
00:29:31.941 --> 00:29:32.988
is this even my baby?
952
00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:34.470
Yeah.
953
00:29:34.671 --> 00:29:34.791
So,
954
00:29:35.011 --> 00:29:37.513
and then when I was trying to figure out his sleep schedule,
955
00:29:38.275 --> 00:29:42.802
she would try to tell me what's better in her way versus my way.
956
00:29:42.943 --> 00:29:44.380
So it was a lot of parent,
957
00:29:44.536 --> 00:29:46.458
like parenting styles,
958
00:29:46.505 --> 00:29:47.622
I think clashing.
959
00:29:48.224 --> 00:29:49.388
Was that stuff that the,
960
00:29:49.763 --> 00:29:50.646
was that stuff on film?
961
00:29:50.739 --> 00:29:51.974
Did the producers pick up on that?
962
00:29:52.938 --> 00:29:53.119
Yes,
963
00:29:53.199 --> 00:29:54.061
some of it was on film,
964
00:29:54.102 --> 00:29:56.446
like when she changed his clothes.
965
00:29:58.514 --> 00:30:01.415
She claims on camera that I didn't make bottles,
966
00:30:01.454 --> 00:30:02.214
but I did.
967
00:30:02.294 --> 00:30:05.097
So it's like they used her audio saying I never made bottles,
968
00:30:05.155 --> 00:30:06.397
but I was making bottles.
969
00:30:06.655 --> 00:30:09.140
And I was trying everything I could to teach myself as a new mom.
970
00:30:09.694 --> 00:30:11.054
But in her eyes,
971
00:30:11.257 --> 00:30:11.936
she just still,
972
00:30:11.976 --> 00:30:12.280
I guess,
973
00:30:12.374 --> 00:30:16.030
looked at me as her child and thought that I wasn't old enough,
974
00:30:16.265 --> 00:30:17.155
which I understand.
975
00:30:17.202 --> 00:30:18.983
But that's why you got to let your child,
976
00:30:20.093 --> 00:30:20.374
like,
977
00:30:20.686 --> 00:30:21.811
just find their independence.
978
00:30:21.812 --> 00:30:22.577
Let your kids fail,
979
00:30:22.655 --> 00:30:22.905
man.
980
00:30:23.327 --> 00:30:23.452
Yeah.
981
00:30:23.593 --> 00:30:24.452
Let your kids fail.
982
00:30:24.515 --> 00:30:25.796
You can't baby them too much.
983
00:30:25.827 --> 00:30:27.405
You can't hold their hand during everything.
984
00:30:27.421 --> 00:30:27.827
Thank you.
985
00:30:28.074 --> 00:30:28.314
Yes.
986
00:30:28.555 --> 00:30:29.076
You just can't.
987
00:30:29.095 --> 00:30:29.556
And now it's,
988
00:30:29.576 --> 00:30:30.476
I think it's generation
989
00:30:31.238 --> 00:30:31.597
Y, Z,
990
00:30:31.878 --> 00:30:32.337
whatever it is.
991
00:30:32.338 --> 00:30:35.142
The kids now that are like 15 to like 25,
992
00:30:35.162 --> 00:30:36.583
whatever that age range is,
993
00:30:37.466 --> 00:30:43.091
getting fired from their first job in droves because they're not showing up on time.
994
00:30:43.271 --> 00:30:43.427
Yeah.
995
00:30:43.912 --> 00:30:45.990
And they don't take constructive criticism well.
996
00:30:45.991 --> 00:30:46.990
They take it too personally.
997
00:30:47.349 --> 00:30:47.474
Yeah.
998
00:30:47.505 --> 00:30:48.333
They're very sensitive.
999
00:30:48.349 --> 00:30:49.240
And they're being offended.
1000
00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:49.662
Very.
1001
00:30:49.974 --> 00:30:50.833
Shut the fuck up.
1002
00:30:52.005 --> 00:30:52.943
You're an In-N-Out burger.
1003
00:30:53.802 --> 00:30:56.224
Mash the goddamn potato and make fucking fries,
1004
00:30:56.287 --> 00:30:56.583
dude.
1005
00:30:56.677 --> 00:30:56.958
You get.
1006
00:30:57.550 --> 00:31:01.433
The number one rule in any customer service is be nice to the customer.
1007
00:31:01.714 --> 00:31:03.116
No matter how rude they are,
1008
00:31:03.155 --> 00:31:04.519
you still got to be nice to them.
1009
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.019
But I feel like this younger generation,
1010
00:31:07.081 --> 00:31:10.402
they talk back and they argue back and they yell back.
1011
00:31:10.464 --> 00:31:11.323
And it's just like.
1012
00:31:13.003 --> 00:31:13.831
I'm Gen X.
1013
00:31:14.066 --> 00:31:15.269
And so I parent my kids.
1014
00:31:15.300 --> 00:31:17.144
Like I told everybody when I was a kid,
1015
00:31:17.206 --> 00:31:17.706
I spent
1016
00:31:18.847 --> 00:31:20.488
60% of my life from age
1017
00:31:20.956 --> 00:31:22.597
8 to 13 in the car.
1018
00:31:23.113 --> 00:31:23.238
Oh,
1019
00:31:23.269 --> 00:31:23.691
definitely.
1020
00:31:23.692 --> 00:31:24.175
Go sit in the car.
1021
00:31:24.722 --> 00:31:25.378
Go sit in the car.
1022
00:31:25.456 --> 00:31:25.581
Yep.
1023
00:31:25.742 --> 00:31:25.982
You know,
1024
00:31:26.283 --> 00:31:26.603
Jeffrey,
1025
00:31:26.623 --> 00:31:27.484
and this is ADHD,
1026
00:31:27.884 --> 00:31:29.124
so I'm blurting stuff out.
1027
00:31:29.827 --> 00:31:33.089
This is before there was any type of help or even therapy for that kind of stuff.
1028
00:31:33.691 --> 00:31:34.409
Go sit in the car.
1029
00:31:35.089 --> 00:31:36.355
So I don't do that with my kids,
1030
00:31:36.769 --> 00:31:36.956
but
1031
00:31:37.456 --> 00:31:38.152
I'll talk to them.
1032
00:31:38.613 --> 00:31:38.777
Like,
1033
00:31:38.831 --> 00:31:39.152
I have no,
1034
00:31:39.238 --> 00:31:39.394
like,
1035
00:31:39.495 --> 00:31:40.159
now they're older,
1036
00:31:40.214 --> 00:31:40.558
but like,
1037
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.097
if my kid was misbehaving as a baby,
1038
00:31:42.675 --> 00:31:43.753
they get a smack in the ass.
1039
00:31:43.878 --> 00:31:44.066
Yeah.
1040
00:31:44.425 --> 00:31:48.347
And I more than once would be like at Target or at Albertsons,
1041
00:31:48.348 --> 00:31:48.628
whatever.
1042
00:31:48.629 --> 00:31:48.925
It's what,
1043
00:31:48.941 --> 00:31:49.191
look at me.
1044
00:31:49.192 --> 00:31:49.472
I'm like,
1045
00:31:49.972 --> 00:31:50.863
what's your fucking problem?
1046
00:31:51.128 --> 00:31:51.269
Yeah.
1047
00:31:51.534 --> 00:31:52.222
This is my kid.
1048
00:31:52.566 --> 00:31:52.706
Yeah.
1049
00:31:52.894 --> 00:31:54.050
And this is how I raise my kids.
1050
00:31:54.128 --> 00:31:54.534
And now.
1051
00:31:55.362 --> 00:31:55.903
They're great.
1052
00:31:56.804 --> 00:31:56.923
And
1053
00:31:57.544 --> 00:32:01.669
I'm open about the way I've raised my kids compared to the helicopter parents.
1054
00:32:01.989 --> 00:32:02.130
Yeah.
1055
00:32:02.810 --> 00:32:04.333
They're doing everything for their kids.
1056
00:32:04.614 --> 00:32:07.732
You compare my kids to them in another five to six years.
1057
00:32:07.755 --> 00:32:08.654
They're in the job market.
1058
00:32:08.974 --> 00:32:10.536
My kid's going to eat that kid's fucking lunch.
1059
00:32:11.036 --> 00:32:11.177
Yeah.
1060
00:32:11.294 --> 00:32:12.927
And won't be going to the manager saying,
1061
00:32:12.943 --> 00:32:13.052
oh,
1062
00:32:13.053 --> 00:32:13.802
can you help me with this?
1063
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:15.599
My kids are growth mindset.
1064
00:32:15.958 --> 00:32:16.099
Yeah.
1065
00:32:16.380 --> 00:32:17.302
Figure it.
1066
00:32:17.303 --> 00:32:19.771
I say figure it out more than I love you to my kids.
1067
00:32:19.772 --> 00:32:21.161
And I love my kids.
1068
00:32:21.239 --> 00:32:21.411
Yeah.
1069
00:32:21.583 --> 00:32:21.989
But it's like.
1070
00:32:22.294 --> 00:32:23.415
Figure it the hell out.
1071
00:32:23.556 --> 00:32:23.735
Yeah,
1072
00:32:23.976 --> 00:32:24.456
exactly.
1073
00:32:24.476 --> 00:32:25.136
You can't like,
1074
00:32:25.196 --> 00:32:26.276
and there's Google.
1075
00:32:27.218 --> 00:32:27.859
If anything,
1076
00:32:28.019 --> 00:32:28.601
Google it.
1077
00:32:28.698 --> 00:32:29.019
Like,
1078
00:32:29.683 --> 00:32:29.843
yeah.
1079
00:32:30.163 --> 00:32:31.245
A question about Jace.
1080
00:32:31.800 --> 00:32:32.401
At one point,
1081
00:32:32.402 --> 00:32:35.370
you made the tough call to have Jace stay with his dad to focus on his health.
1082
00:32:35.784 --> 00:32:37.331
How did you arrive at that choice?
1083
00:32:37.347 --> 00:32:38.112
And how's he doing now?
1084
00:32:39.417 --> 00:32:39.526
So
1085
00:32:40.433 --> 00:32:41.308
Jace, you know,
1086
00:32:41.386 --> 00:32:42.933
he's diagnosed with mental,
1087
00:32:43.370 --> 00:32:44.792
two mental health disorders,
1088
00:32:44.901 --> 00:32:45.980
ADHD and ODD,
1089
00:32:46.683 --> 00:32:49.355
which is oppositional defiant disorder.
1090
00:32:50.183 --> 00:32:51.542
And it comes along with ADHD.
1091
00:32:51.543 --> 00:32:51.667
day.
1092
00:32:52.438 --> 00:32:52.759
And
1093
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:58.065
I've been dealing with that with Jay since he's been 10 years old and so has my mom.
1094
00:32:59.167 --> 00:33:07.190
And what a lot of people don't realize is they think that it was just one instance at my house and then I shipped him off to his dad's.
1095
00:33:07.635 --> 00:33:11.729
When really there's so much stuff that's been happening for so many years and
1096
00:33:12.120 --> 00:33:14.104
I don't go into detail for his privacy.
1097
00:33:14.385 --> 00:33:14.635
Sure.
1098
00:33:14.979 --> 00:33:18.260
But there's a lot of physical things that happened and,
1099
00:33:18.385 --> 00:33:18.745
you know.
1100
00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:20.310
My mom,
1101
00:33:20.450 --> 00:33:20.710
I mean,
1102
00:33:20.771 --> 00:33:21.351
he's five,
1103
00:33:21.450 --> 00:33:21.730
three,
1104
00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:22.791
I'm five feet.
1105
00:33:23.352 --> 00:33:23.852
First of all,
1106
00:33:24.070 --> 00:33:25.512
I can't buck up to my son.
1107
00:33:26.312 --> 00:33:27.691
I can't do nothing to my son.
1108
00:33:27.692 --> 00:33:28.570
I'm not going to.
1109
00:33:29.391 --> 00:33:29.648
Um,
1110
00:33:29.750 --> 00:33:29.930
he's,
1111
00:33:30.469 --> 00:33:31.750
he's almost a grown man to me,
1112
00:33:31.812 --> 00:33:32.992
which is crazy to say.
1113
00:33:33.711 --> 00:33:34.094
Um,
1114
00:33:34.656 --> 00:33:34.773
so,
1115
00:33:35.156 --> 00:33:35.414
you know,
1116
00:33:35.453 --> 00:33:36.297
I don't do anything,
1117
00:33:36.437 --> 00:33:39.047
but he just,
1118
00:33:40.219 --> 00:33:44.719
he needed his dad and his dad hasn't been involved in his life since he's been a baby.
1119
00:33:45.312 --> 00:33:46.109
So it was time.
1120
00:33:46.719 --> 00:33:47.203
And,
1121
00:33:47.250 --> 00:33:47.531
um,
1122
00:33:47.954 --> 00:33:48.515
everyone's like,
1123
00:33:48.535 --> 00:33:49.656
why did you send him to a stranger?
1124
00:33:49.675 --> 00:33:51.238
But that's his dad.
1125
00:33:52.017 --> 00:33:53.740
Like that's his other side of his family.
1126
00:33:54.142 --> 00:33:58.627
And they've actually been keeping in contact and visiting with each other the past two years.
1127
00:33:58.628 --> 00:33:59.025
That's great.
1128
00:33:59.228 --> 00:33:59.384
Yeah.
1129
00:33:59.385 --> 00:33:59.986
That's great.
1130
00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:01.666
So they've been reconnecting.
1131
00:34:01.689 --> 00:34:01.806
Yeah,
1132
00:34:01.807 --> 00:34:02.986
and they've been texting each other.
1133
00:34:03.166 --> 00:34:03.791
And I know,
1134
00:34:03.908 --> 00:34:05.455
and I've been monitoring everything.
1135
00:34:05.486 --> 00:34:09.595
And his family says that his dad was an alcoholic,
1136
00:34:09.752 --> 00:34:11.970
but his family says that his dad is sober now.
1137
00:34:12.517 --> 00:34:14.626
And that was years ago when I was like 16.
1138
00:34:15.173 --> 00:34:16.830
So they're doing great.
1139
00:34:17.174 --> 00:34:17.454
I mean,
1140
00:34:17.514 --> 00:34:18.596
ever since I sent him there,
1141
00:34:18.916 --> 00:34:20.678
they sent me pictures of them fishing.
1142
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.020
They've been,
1143
00:34:22.438 --> 00:34:23.282
he's in Florida.
1144
00:34:23.442 --> 00:34:25.141
So they went out on the beach.
1145
00:34:25.219 --> 00:34:26.219
They eat at the pier.
1146
00:34:26.407 --> 00:34:30.125
Like they do so many good things and they're not posting about it,
1147
00:34:30.149 --> 00:34:30.766
which is great.
1148
00:34:31.164 --> 00:34:32.211
Because I told his dad,
1149
00:34:32.250 --> 00:34:32.547
I said,
1150
00:34:32.548 --> 00:34:34.016
he needs privacy right now.
1151
00:34:34.516 --> 00:34:35.750
And he doesn't even,
1152
00:34:35.860 --> 00:34:37.141
my son doesn't even like to post.
1153
00:34:37.594 --> 00:34:39.938
So he tries to keep his life as private as possible.
1154
00:34:39.939 --> 00:34:41.344
And I explained that to his dad.
1155
00:34:42.063 --> 00:34:44.266
Were you the one that reached out to his dad?
1156
00:34:44.969 --> 00:34:45.203
Yes.
1157
00:34:45.375 --> 00:34:46.000
Of course you were.
1158
00:34:46.297 --> 00:34:46.500
Yes.
1159
00:34:47.046 --> 00:35:00.416
because you want to fix the situation yes and i was just kind of i was kind of like you know i'm here in vegas i have three kids um if my oldest is being so bad that it's not a good situation for my younger two kids
1160
00:35:01.225 --> 00:35:03.708
I can't have everyone here in the same household.
1161
00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:05.348
And again,
1162
00:35:05.450 --> 00:35:07.692
walking on eggshells a lot around my son.
1163
00:35:07.813 --> 00:35:08.332
So like
1164
00:35:08.891 --> 00:35:15.176
I wanted to protect my two younger kids and I also need all kids to be in a good situation.
1165
00:35:15.801 --> 00:35:16.582
So before,
1166
00:35:16.918 --> 00:35:17.208
you know,
1167
00:35:17.254 --> 00:35:19.208
I looked into anywhere to send him,
1168
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:22.426
which I have looked in the past for like boys homes and stuff.
1169
00:35:22.442 --> 00:35:23.364
But that's another thing
1170
00:35:24.114 --> 00:35:26.145
I want to bring up is a lot of parents.
1171
00:35:27.458 --> 00:35:28.348
They're asking me,
1172
00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:30.098
how are you dealing with this?
1173
00:35:30.192 --> 00:35:30.692
because
1174
00:35:31.085 --> 00:35:36.391
I don't know what to do with my kids because my kids are diagnosed with the same thing and they feel like they're losing their minds.
1175
00:35:36.930 --> 00:35:40.192
And when they go to their state for help,
1176
00:35:40.754 --> 00:35:41.254
they're like,
1177
00:35:41.317 --> 00:35:41.637
well,
1178
00:35:42.254 --> 00:35:43.496
you can send them to this place,
1179
00:35:43.497 --> 00:35:44.559
but there's a waiting list.
1180
00:35:44.660 --> 00:35:48.777
And then the waiting list will have like 100 people and you need a spot right then and there.
1181
00:35:49.121 --> 00:35:51.543
So then you go look at private stuff and it's like
1182
00:35:51.902 --> 00:35:53.887
$30,000 a month,
1183
00:35:54.371 --> 00:35:56.527
$1,000 a day or more.
1184
00:35:56.949 --> 00:35:57.168
I mean,
1185
00:35:57.184 --> 00:35:58.324
that's the cheapest one I found.
1186
00:35:59.133 --> 00:36:00.233
So a lot of people are like,
1187
00:36:00.234 --> 00:36:02.193
why didn't you send him there before his dad's?
1188
00:36:02.214 --> 00:36:04.933
And I don't have the money and the state,
1189
00:36:05.113 --> 00:36:08.058
they have a long waiting list on places.
1190
00:36:08.613 --> 00:36:11.878
So he's been in therapy since he's been a child.
1191
00:36:11.956 --> 00:36:13.378
He's seen psychiatrists.
1192
00:36:13.714 --> 00:36:13.894
Like,
1193
00:36:13.917 --> 00:36:14.316
I mean,
1194
00:36:14.753 --> 00:36:15.964
we've tried everything.
1195
00:36:16.230 --> 00:36:17.996
So our hands were completely tied.
1196
00:36:19.683 --> 00:36:21.371
And my mom's enjoying her peace right now,
1197
00:36:21.433 --> 00:36:22.824
not having any kids to raise.
1198
00:36:22.855 --> 00:36:23.839
So she's like,
1199
00:36:23.855 --> 00:36:24.464
if you can,
1200
00:36:24.496 --> 00:36:25.339
you can send him here.
1201
00:36:25.386 --> 00:36:25.714
I was like,
1202
00:36:25.777 --> 00:36:25.902
no.
1203
00:36:26.011 --> 00:36:26.417
No.
1204
00:36:26.761 --> 00:36:27.246
I was like,
1205
00:36:27.652 --> 00:36:28.417
he left there.
1206
00:36:29.129 --> 00:36:30.371
from a bad situation.
1207
00:36:30.810 --> 00:36:32.092
It's just going to happen again.
1208
00:36:32.232 --> 00:36:33.011
So I'm like,
1209
00:36:33.054 --> 00:36:34.152
let's just send him to his dad's.
1210
00:36:34.715 --> 00:36:35.715
And yeah,
1211
00:36:35.716 --> 00:36:36.898
they're doing great so far.
1212
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:37.941
So we'll see.
1213
00:36:38.058 --> 00:36:38.238
But
1214
00:36:39.597 --> 00:36:42.301
I co-parent with my kid's mom.
1215
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.144
We co-parent well.
1216
00:36:44.465 --> 00:36:44.863
That's good.
1217
00:36:45.011 --> 00:36:46.168
Yeah.
1218
00:36:46.230 --> 00:36:47.402
Let's talk about that a little bit.
1219
00:36:48.543 --> 00:36:49.136
It's hard,
1220
00:36:49.230 --> 00:36:49.543
dude.
1221
00:36:49.590 --> 00:36:52.168
It's hard because again,
1222
00:36:52.855 --> 00:36:53.058
when
1223
00:36:54.011 --> 00:36:56.840
I was married for 13 years and when we split up,
1224
00:36:56.855 --> 00:36:57.074
it was,
1225
00:36:57.090 --> 00:36:57.277
I mean,
1226
00:36:57.278 --> 00:36:58.121
no divorces are good.
1227
00:36:58.809 --> 00:36:59.369
It was bad.
1228
00:36:59.609 --> 00:36:59.950
And so,
1229
00:37:00.189 --> 00:37:01.209
but we always said,
1230
00:37:01.469 --> 00:37:02.389
we're putting the kids first.
1231
00:37:03.051 --> 00:37:03.469
Definitely.
1232
00:37:03.470 --> 00:37:04.668
We're putting our kids first.
1233
00:37:04.930 --> 00:37:09.192
And so this is how we're going to co-parent in terms of visitation and paying for stuff.
1234
00:37:09.231 --> 00:37:10.575
And it's never been a problem.
1235
00:37:11.168 --> 00:37:14.075
How have you two been with co-parenting with the kids?
1236
00:37:14.856 --> 00:37:15.778
Me and his father?
1237
00:37:15.809 --> 00:37:18.153
Chase,
1238
00:37:18.168 --> 00:37:18.293
yeah.
1239
00:37:18.637 --> 00:37:18.934
Yeah.
1240
00:37:19.590 --> 00:37:20.981
Each of my kids have different dads.
1241
00:37:21.496 --> 00:37:21.621
So,
1242
00:37:24.028 --> 00:37:24.481
sounds funny.
1243
00:37:24.621 --> 00:37:25.559
Even better question then.
1244
00:37:26.309 --> 00:37:26.715
But again,
1245
00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:27.950
same question.
1246
00:37:28.357 --> 00:37:29.197
Still is because,
1247
00:37:29.297 --> 00:37:29.497
again,
1248
00:37:29.717 --> 00:37:31.117
you're always putting your kids first.
1249
00:37:32.037 --> 00:37:35.240
So it's that dynamic with the child's dad.
1250
00:37:35.459 --> 00:37:35.697
Yes.
1251
00:37:36.240 --> 00:37:37.740
And whether it's different for each kid.
1252
00:37:37.959 --> 00:37:38.217
Okay.
1253
00:37:38.483 --> 00:37:38.717
Yes.
1254
00:37:38.936 --> 00:37:40.576
But how do you navigate those waters?
1255
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:41.576
Well,
1256
00:37:42.022 --> 00:37:42.717
with Jace,
1257
00:37:42.842 --> 00:37:44.467
his dad wasn't really involved,
1258
00:37:44.780 --> 00:37:45.436
him growing up,
1259
00:37:45.514 --> 00:37:46.217
and now he is.
1260
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:48.201
So they kind of just do their own thing,
1261
00:37:48.217 --> 00:37:50.264
and I just monitor it so it's easier.
1262
00:37:50.608 --> 00:37:51.545
That's awesome.
1263
00:37:51.546 --> 00:37:53.326
But with my younger son,
1264
00:37:53.389 --> 00:37:53.842
Kaiser,
1265
00:37:53.998 --> 00:37:56.405
everybody knows his dad was just recently arrested.
1266
00:37:57.045 --> 00:37:57.170
So...
1267
00:37:57.665 --> 00:38:00.107
he can't see his dad or talk to his dad right now.
1268
00:38:00.707 --> 00:38:02.488
And he is an alcoholic.
1269
00:38:02.871 --> 00:38:07.852
So he has a whole different issue and he's trying to get his life together.
1270
00:38:08.477 --> 00:38:10.539
He hasn't seen my son in like two years.
1271
00:38:10.875 --> 00:38:11.078
Let's,
1272
00:38:11.234 --> 00:38:13.969
let's double click on that for a second because he lives in Vegas.
1273
00:38:14.063 --> 00:38:14.297
Okay.
1274
00:38:14.594 --> 00:38:14.938
Cause it's,
1275
00:38:14.984 --> 00:38:16.281
and the reason why is isn't for,
1276
00:38:16.406 --> 00:38:18.844
I don't care about the content part of it.
1277
00:38:18.845 --> 00:38:19.563
I care more about,
1278
00:38:20.234 --> 00:38:23.344
it's a great learning opportunity for your child.
1279
00:38:24.531 --> 00:38:24.656
Oh,
1280
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:25.219
definitely.
1281
00:38:25.297 --> 00:38:25.531
Right.
1282
00:38:25.741 --> 00:38:45.438
definitely so how do you approach it that way yeah that's why i've just been ever since he's been in jail which has been about a month now i've been deciding like which we we don't know if he's going to get out in two weeks or we don't know if he's going to be there and serve his sentence for a year or two we have no idea what's going to go on but
1283
00:38:45.657 --> 00:38:53.453
i'm still in my head and going back and forth like do i bring my son he's 10 do i bring him to the jail to visit his dad
1284
00:38:54.017 --> 00:38:56.600
Or is that too much for him right now as a kid?
1285
00:38:57.041 --> 00:38:58.561
And would that traumatize him?
1286
00:38:58.963 --> 00:39:01.963
Because he's very sensitive about his dad and he loves his dad so much.
1287
00:39:02.322 --> 00:39:02.729
So I'm like,
1288
00:39:02.730 --> 00:39:08.229
would that hurt him to see him locked up more that it would help him to have a conversation with him?
1289
00:39:08.369 --> 00:39:10.846
What's your gut tell you?
1290
00:39:10.847 --> 00:39:12.002
I'm back and forth about it.
1291
00:39:12.783 --> 00:39:17.783
And his dad hasn't reached out to us to talk to him since he's been in jail.
1292
00:39:18.455 --> 00:39:18.705
I mean,
1293
00:39:18.736 --> 00:39:22.893
he's reached out one time to ask me if I can go get his dog.
1294
00:39:23.709 --> 00:39:24.530
But other than that,
1295
00:39:24.590 --> 00:39:26.572
he has not tried to talk to my son.
1296
00:39:27.632 --> 00:39:28.976
So it's pretty sad,
1297
00:39:28.996 --> 00:39:31.578
but I'm trying to protect my son's feelings at all costs.
1298
00:39:31.579 --> 00:39:33.039
I think you've answered the question.
1299
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:33.515
Yeah.
1300
00:39:35.179 --> 00:39:35.859
But again,
1301
00:39:37.406 --> 00:39:42.031
we're here on this earth for a microsecond of time when it comes down to it.
1302
00:39:42.093 --> 00:39:43.750
And as parents,
1303
00:39:43.843 --> 00:39:46.375
it's our job to leave a legacy.
1304
00:39:46.968 --> 00:39:47.531
Definitely.
1305
00:39:48.671 --> 00:39:52.281
The definition of a legacy is really it ends when people stop talking about you.
1306
00:39:53.049 --> 00:39:55.674
And you can have a lot of money and put your name on a fucking building and all that,
1307
00:39:55.693 --> 00:39:56.576
which I think is horseshit.
1308
00:39:56.715 --> 00:39:56.957
Sorry,
1309
00:39:57.195 --> 00:39:57.918
high net worth people,
1310
00:39:57.957 --> 00:39:58.699
but fuck off.
1311
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.285
It's better to do things that make your kids.
1312
00:40:03.890 --> 00:40:22.928
emulate your good qualities definitely right definitely and that's why i don't i like it's it's kind of like a learning lesson seeing his dad in jail but at the same time it's like i don't even want him to see that or experience it maybe not just want his mind to be in the positive positive
1313
00:40:22.975 --> 00:40:31.616
state of mind that he's in because he's doing really good in school that's another thing that's great he could be doing bad in school because of the situation his dad's going through But really,
1314
00:40:32.116 --> 00:40:33.006
he's doing a good job.
1315
00:40:33.910 --> 00:40:37.834
Good job separating the two and staying focused on what he needs to get done.
1316
00:40:38.416 --> 00:40:39.455
Do you do your homework with your kids?
1317
00:40:39.674 --> 00:40:40.314
Help them with their homework?
1318
00:40:40.498 --> 00:40:40.658
Yeah.
1319
00:40:41.459 --> 00:40:41.916
I try,
1320
00:40:42.017 --> 00:40:43.361
but like the new math they do.
1321
00:40:43.596 --> 00:40:44.283
Don't even get me started.
1322
00:40:44.322 --> 00:40:50.174
They're trying to teach them like different way of multiplying and dividing and like put it in boxes and stuff.
1323
00:40:50.189 --> 00:40:50.564
And I'm like.
1324
00:40:50.565 --> 00:40:51.205
Don't even get me started.
1325
00:40:51.252 --> 00:40:51.502
I'm like,
1326
00:40:51.549 --> 00:40:52.252
let me teach you.
1327
00:40:52.253 --> 00:40:53.392
And then my daughter's like,
1328
00:40:53.408 --> 00:40:54.517
that's not how we learn it.
1329
00:40:54.596 --> 00:40:54.877
I said,
1330
00:40:54.924 --> 00:40:55.689
this is better.
1331
00:40:55.986 --> 00:40:56.892
I promise you.
1332
00:40:57.955 --> 00:40:59.361
My son's in third grade.
1333
00:41:00.539 --> 00:41:00.959
And he,
1334
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:01.600
luckily,
1335
00:41:02.341 --> 00:41:05.585
my stepdaughter is very smart and my wife's a nurse.
1336
00:41:05.964 --> 00:41:07.366
So she knows like nurse math.
1337
00:41:08.026 --> 00:41:08.487
And ever,
1338
00:41:08.823 --> 00:41:10.347
my son usually will have math homework.
1339
00:41:10.370 --> 00:41:10.589
I'm like,
1340
00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:10.745
honey,
1341
00:41:10.870 --> 00:41:13.355
I love you with the heat of a thousand suns,
1342
00:41:13.651 --> 00:41:14.831
but don't give me your math.
1343
00:41:15.534 --> 00:41:15.870
I can't,
1344
00:41:15.987 --> 00:41:16.769
I'm a grown man.
1345
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:17.769
I can't do third grade math.
1346
00:41:17.909 --> 00:41:18.784
I can't do it either.
1347
00:41:18.785 --> 00:41:21.503
The way they want you to do it now is ridiculous.
1348
00:41:21.597 --> 00:41:21.925
I know.
1349
00:41:22.378 --> 00:41:22.940
I'm just like,
1350
00:41:23.081 --> 00:41:24.300
I'm the old fashioned way.
1351
00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:24.722
Like,
1352
00:41:25.565 --> 00:41:26.159
carry the one.
1353
00:41:26.782 --> 00:41:42.018
exactly right exactly and i'm like and now i'm trying to teach my daughter like you know she was trying to do like three times eight and she was doing it with like bag of goldfish you know three bags like eight in each bag yeah and then she's like i
1354
00:41:42.057 --> 00:41:56.198
just and then at below it i see a you know a table and they have it all split up and like different numbers and like just stop it in different ways and i'm like ensley i'm like if you just draw the picture like you were thinking and just bag it up.
1355
00:41:56.682 --> 00:41:57.183
I was like,
1356
00:41:57.203 --> 00:41:58.124
it's way easier.
1357
00:41:58.563 --> 00:41:59.286
And then I told her,
1358
00:41:59.287 --> 00:41:59.725
I was like,
1359
00:41:59.726 --> 00:42:01.145
it's just eight three times.
1360
00:42:01.227 --> 00:42:01.805
And she's like,
1361
00:42:02.028 --> 00:42:02.188
oh.
1362
00:42:02.868 --> 00:42:03.270
I was like,
1363
00:42:03.290 --> 00:42:03.469
yeah,
1364
00:42:03.528 --> 00:42:04.688
it's eight plus eight plus eight.
1365
00:42:04.689 --> 00:42:05.188
And she's like,
1366
00:42:05.329 --> 00:42:05.493
oh,
1367
00:42:05.634 --> 00:42:06.391
and it clicked.
1368
00:42:06.969 --> 00:42:07.532
And it's like,
1369
00:42:07.555 --> 00:42:09.032
I don't know how they're teaching them.
1370
00:42:09.759 --> 00:42:11.415
So three children,
1371
00:42:12.423 --> 00:42:17.641
what is the biggest win you can fly your flag for,
1372
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:18.626
for each one of your kids?
1373
00:42:20.813 --> 00:42:21.860
I'll say with Ensley,
1374
00:42:22.548 --> 00:42:24.094
she's just very smart,
1375
00:42:24.188 --> 00:42:24.782
outgoing.
1376
00:42:24.844 --> 00:42:25.813
She's very sweet.
1377
00:42:26.282 --> 00:42:27.582
She's very sweet to everybody.
1378
00:42:27.662 --> 00:42:30.662
So I definitely think she got that from me because everyone's like,
1379
00:42:30.682 --> 00:42:31.823
she's like the sweetest little girl.
1380
00:42:31.862 --> 00:42:32.502
Southern charm.
1381
00:42:32.924 --> 00:42:33.205
Yes.
1382
00:42:33.784 --> 00:42:34.221
Kaiser,
1383
00:42:34.448 --> 00:42:35.862
he's super funny.
1384
00:42:36.502 --> 00:42:37.588
He's unfiltered.
1385
00:42:37.862 --> 00:42:38.987
And he loves me.
1386
00:42:39.682 --> 00:42:40.963
Just like he's mama's boy.
1387
00:42:41.604 --> 00:42:42.448
So he's just like,
1388
00:42:42.510 --> 00:42:43.323
he's all about me.
1389
00:42:43.666 --> 00:42:44.932
And he's very smart.
1390
00:42:45.088 --> 00:42:48.026
And he does anything for his family.
1391
00:42:48.385 --> 00:42:49.088
And very loyal.
1392
00:42:49.948 --> 00:42:51.401
And then my son,
1393
00:42:51.494 --> 00:42:51.948
Jace,
1394
00:42:52.135 --> 00:42:53.088
he's very smart.
1395
00:42:53.213 --> 00:42:54.135
He's very handy.
1396
00:42:54.854 --> 00:42:55.807
he um he
1397
00:42:57.110 --> 00:42:59.512
He likes to solve problems and puzzles.
1398
00:42:59.833 --> 00:43:03.557
He likes to work on his dirt bike and four-wheeler.
1399
00:43:04.217 --> 00:43:08.217
And he was redoing all his gears on his e-bike.
1400
00:43:08.218 --> 00:43:08.600
And I'm like,
1401
00:43:08.624 --> 00:43:09.499
what are you doing?
1402
00:43:09.905 --> 00:43:10.303
So yeah,
1403
00:43:10.342 --> 00:43:11.608
he's like a problem solver.
1404
00:43:12.225 --> 00:43:13.007
That's fantastic.
1405
00:43:13.046 --> 00:43:13.764
Which sounds like me.
1406
00:43:14.952 --> 00:43:15.452
It's cool.
1407
00:43:15.546 --> 00:43:19.671
And it's nice to think about those things.
1408
00:43:19.874 --> 00:43:23.577
And when you're having a bad day and when your kid's being a poop,
1409
00:43:24.074 --> 00:43:50.863
which they they will do that oh definitely you know what you have great wins with your kids consistently you can fall back on definitely that far outweigh the naughtiness exactly you know or and then like if you look at social media i mean i don't know about other parents but you know my younger two kids they don't have they don't have phones they don't social media so for them it's like when i look at bad comments and if i get in a bad mood they're in a happy mood and i'm like
1410
00:43:51.146 --> 00:43:55.409
Look how happy they are because they're not online reading comments right now.
1411
00:43:55.452 --> 00:43:56.472
They're just being kids.
1412
00:43:56.491 --> 00:43:56.972
And I'm like,
1413
00:43:57.273 --> 00:43:58.694
I learned from them because I'm like,
1414
00:43:58.733 --> 00:43:59.015
all right,
1415
00:43:59.034 --> 00:43:59.937
time to put down the phone.
1416
00:43:59.976 --> 00:44:00.554
Don't look at it.
1417
00:44:00.835 --> 00:44:06.304
How old should a child be or how old will your kids be when they'll get a phone?
1418
00:44:07.718 --> 00:44:09.187
I think 12 or 13.
1419
00:44:09.562 --> 00:44:12.046
And that's only because I still think that's young,
1420
00:44:12.327 --> 00:44:16.374
but that's only because they start going places by themselves or with their friends or,
1421
00:44:16.624 --> 00:44:16.890
you know,
1422
00:44:16.891 --> 00:44:18.218
to the park by themselves.
1423
00:44:18.233 --> 00:44:18.671
And it's like,
1424
00:44:18.687 --> 00:44:19.312
I need to know.
1425
00:44:19.722 --> 00:44:40.124
where you're at at all times my my um my my son does not have a phone but he asked me all the time and he's nine and if i got my daughter too if i get one of those like senior citizen jitterbug phones like a flip phone with like the giant numbers on it and all i could do is like make calls and text yeah i'd get him something like that no internet no nothing i
1426
00:44:40.125 --> 00:44:46.249
don't want him to get like you just want that like bubble around your kid no i get it you know yeah because it's like it
1427
00:44:46.470 --> 00:44:50.633
the internet's so unfiltered and there's so much out there that,
1428
00:44:50.996 --> 00:44:53.215
and I think that's another reason why like my son,
1429
00:44:53.398 --> 00:44:53.719
Jace,
1430
00:44:53.738 --> 00:44:55.535
like just doesn't want to be online right now.
1431
00:44:55.941 --> 00:44:57.160
And a lot of people are like,
1432
00:44:57.277 --> 00:44:57.644
Oh,
1433
00:44:57.801 --> 00:44:58.879
there's something wrong with that.
1434
00:44:59.019 --> 00:44:59.246
Oh,
1435
00:44:59.426 --> 00:44:59.582
he's,
1436
00:45:00.121 --> 00:45:01.105
are you checking on him?
1437
00:45:01.121 --> 00:45:01.566
And I'm like,
1438
00:45:01.567 --> 00:45:01.683
no,
1439
00:45:01.722 --> 00:45:02.144
he just,
1440
00:45:02.246 --> 00:45:04.441
he's fishing actually.
1441
00:45:05.207 --> 00:45:05.816
It is.
1442
00:45:07.217 --> 00:45:07.557
healthy,
1443
00:45:08.619 --> 00:45:11.422
to be as unplugged for as long as possible.
1444
00:45:11.441 --> 00:45:12.844
Because once you go down that road,
1445
00:45:12.902 --> 00:45:14.265
you're really not going to take it back.
1446
00:45:14.586 --> 00:45:14.746
Yeah.
1447
00:45:15.328 --> 00:45:15.648
You know.
1448
00:45:15.906 --> 00:45:19.265
And you're going to notice that you've been in bed for like five hours and haven't got out.
1449
00:45:19.289 --> 00:45:19.828
And you're like,
1450
00:45:20.367 --> 00:45:21.648
I just don't want to do anything.
1451
00:45:21.695 --> 00:45:23.961
TikTok's told you three times you've been scrolling for too long.
1452
00:45:23.962 --> 00:45:24.195
That too.
1453
00:45:24.554 --> 00:45:24.836
Get up,
1454
00:45:24.851 --> 00:45:25.758
you lazy ass.
1455
00:45:25.961 --> 00:45:26.336
What's wrong with you?
1456
00:45:26.337 --> 00:45:26.601
That too.
1457
00:45:26.602 --> 00:45:27.211
I'm like,
1458
00:45:27.492 --> 00:45:27.820
Jesus.
1459
00:45:27.821 --> 00:45:28.742
I'm like brushing my teeth.
1460
00:45:29.054 --> 00:45:29.539
Yes.
1461
00:45:31.550 --> 00:45:47.866
i'm like wait i'm like what am i doing right now it's the word oh man you know you've got a problem when the app itself is sending you a you know you need to take a break hey how you doing it's time for you to probably take a break right now and you
1462
00:45:47.867 --> 00:46:00.210
i'm gonna keep talking about i need more puppy videos i'm like this is better than uh netflix the the one thing that i do my wife and i send each other like usually inappropriate memes like all the time.
1463
00:46:00.273 --> 00:46:00.445
Yeah.
1464
00:46:00.673 --> 00:46:02.175
which to me is like the best love.
1465
00:46:02.374 --> 00:46:04.757
That's my love language is memes and just sending stuff.
1466
00:46:04.758 --> 00:46:05.179
That's either.
1467
00:46:05.659 --> 00:46:06.659
It's not politically correct.
1468
00:46:07.101 --> 00:46:07.300
It's,
1469
00:46:07.601 --> 00:46:09.523
it's hilarious or it's puppies.
1470
00:46:09.843 --> 00:46:10.023
Yeah.
1471
00:46:10.405 --> 00:46:11.046
And you know,
1472
00:46:11.101 --> 00:46:12.507
or animals because you're an animal person.
1473
00:46:12.523 --> 00:46:13.226
We have a dog and a cat.
1474
00:46:13.249 --> 00:46:14.710
So it's just like the whole thing.
1475
00:46:15.624 --> 00:46:15.866
There's,
1476
00:46:16.351 --> 00:46:20.530
there's a good part of the internet and then there's the not good part of the internet.
1477
00:46:20.890 --> 00:46:21.030
Oh,
1478
00:46:21.296 --> 00:46:21.780
definitely.
1479
00:46:21.827 --> 00:46:22.077
Right.
1480
00:46:22.234 --> 00:46:22.421
Yeah.
1481
00:46:23.140 --> 00:46:24.312
Have you had that talk?
1482
00:46:24.780 --> 00:46:25.374
Like with Jace,
1483
00:46:25.375 --> 00:46:26.937
have you had that talk with him to say,
1484
00:46:27.296 --> 00:46:27.484
Oh,
1485
00:46:27.655 --> 00:46:28.015
this is,
1486
00:46:28.077 --> 00:46:28.327
you know,
1487
00:46:28.655 --> 00:46:28.968
listen,
1488
00:46:29.640 --> 00:46:29.937
there is.
1489
00:46:30.237 --> 00:46:48.409
this part and there's this part yeah he have he's actually he had a situation back when he was 13 that he thought he was talking to someone and it turned out not to be the part it was a fake person obviously and um when he found that out he was really embarrassed and he's like you
1490
00:46:48.441 --> 00:46:58.566
know how do i prevent this from happening and i told him i said that is why i told you a long time ago you got to pick and choose who your friends are but you can't just talk to random people online i was like
1491
00:46:58.753 --> 00:46:59.994
that's going to happen all the time.
1492
00:47:00.435 --> 00:47:00.775
I was like,
1493
00:47:00.816 --> 00:47:02.196
especially who you are,
1494
00:47:02.337 --> 00:47:04.900
everybody is going to be like messaging you all the time.
1495
00:47:05.157 --> 00:47:08.985
And that's before he had Instagram and he had Snapchat,
1496
00:47:08.986 --> 00:47:10.204
but Snapchat was like,
1497
00:47:10.384 --> 00:47:11.228
Snapchat's bad.
1498
00:47:12.282 --> 00:47:13.892
And especially because,
1499
00:47:15.173 --> 00:47:15.407
you know,
1500
00:47:15.454 --> 00:47:19.595
I have cop friends that say that like once things disappear,
1501
00:47:19.626 --> 00:47:20.095
they're gone.
1502
00:47:20.595 --> 00:47:22.876
Like even if they go search the phone,
1503
00:47:23.282 --> 00:47:24.360
if a crime happens,
1504
00:47:24.361 --> 00:47:26.001
they still can't pull up old messages,
1505
00:47:26.579 --> 00:47:26.860
which is.
1506
00:47:27.493 --> 00:47:28.534
really unsafe to hear.
1507
00:47:28.775 --> 00:47:32.358
And I feel like Snapchat should at least have some encryption.
1508
00:47:33.037 --> 00:47:33.518
That's crazy.
1509
00:47:33.519 --> 00:47:33.998
I didn't know that.
1510
00:47:34.299 --> 00:47:34.440
Yeah.
1511
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:35.338
I didn't know that either.
1512
00:47:35.339 --> 00:47:35.697
I was like,
1513
00:47:35.698 --> 00:47:36.799
you can't pull anything.
1514
00:47:36.822 --> 00:47:37.166
They're like,
1515
00:47:37.205 --> 00:47:37.322
no.
1516
00:47:37.986 --> 00:47:38.822
My daughter's on Snapchat.
1517
00:47:38.823 --> 00:47:39.447
I don't think she is,
1518
00:47:39.502 --> 00:47:39.643
but.
1519
00:47:39.924 --> 00:47:40.127
Yeah.
1520
00:47:40.666 --> 00:47:42.447
But there is a thing called Bark Phone.
1521
00:47:42.486 --> 00:47:43.072
Have you heard of it?
1522
00:47:43.244 --> 00:47:43.369
Oh,
1523
00:47:43.416 --> 00:47:43.963
what's that?
1524
00:47:44.525 --> 00:47:44.838
It is.
1525
00:47:44.839 --> 00:47:45.432
It's wonderful.
1526
00:47:45.572 --> 00:47:50.369
It is a phone that they send to you and I've had it for my son before he got an iPhone.
1527
00:47:51.072 --> 00:47:56.729
And it will take screenshots of anything on Snapchat that's inappropriate or you think.
1528
00:47:57.049 --> 00:47:58.731
That is dangerous for them.
1529
00:47:59.511 --> 00:48:01.595
And if they're like bark.
1530
00:48:01.833 --> 00:48:02.114
Bark.
1531
00:48:02.353 --> 00:48:02.614
Bark.
1532
00:48:02.654 --> 00:48:03.134
Like dog.
1533
00:48:03.314 --> 00:48:03.634
Yes.
1534
00:48:04.275 --> 00:48:09.439
And they also have an app that you can download onto any phone and it will monitor the whole thing.
1535
00:48:09.501 --> 00:48:10.986
It has firewalls and everything.
1536
00:48:11.525 --> 00:48:11.665
Yeah.
1537
00:48:11.806 --> 00:48:15.243
It took screenshots of his Snapchat messages and would send it to me.
1538
00:48:15.634 --> 00:48:16.072
And he's like,
1539
00:48:16.087 --> 00:48:17.822
how are you getting my Snapchat messages?
1540
00:48:18.525 --> 00:48:19.572
Like even pictures.
1541
00:48:20.650 --> 00:48:20.806
Yeah.
1542
00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:21.587
Does he have a job?
1543
00:48:22.759 --> 00:48:23.368
Not currently,
1544
00:48:23.415 --> 00:48:23.540
no.
1545
00:48:23.541 --> 00:48:24.009
And it's like,
1546
00:48:24.275 --> 00:48:24.509
dude,
1547
00:48:24.993 --> 00:48:25.837
until you get a job.
1548
00:48:26.265 --> 00:48:27.526
You're paying for that fucking phone.
1549
00:48:27.807 --> 00:48:28.246
I know.
1550
00:48:28.887 --> 00:48:30.129
It's my world you're playing in.
1551
00:48:30.289 --> 00:48:30.629
I know.
1552
00:48:30.770 --> 00:48:31.410
It's my world.
1553
00:48:31.648 --> 00:48:32.191
Exactly.
1554
00:48:33.070 --> 00:48:33.371
And
1555
00:48:33.773 --> 00:48:34.250
I just,
1556
00:48:35.094 --> 00:48:35.594
I see it.
1557
00:48:35.595 --> 00:48:35.992
And again,
1558
00:48:36.156 --> 00:48:37.633
it's you parent any way you want to parent.
1559
00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:38.195
I think you're great,
1560
00:48:38.196 --> 00:48:38.539
by the way.
1561
00:48:38.578 --> 00:48:39.000
You're great.
1562
00:48:39.078 --> 00:48:39.375
Thank you.
1563
00:48:39.578 --> 00:48:40.102
You're welcome.
1564
00:48:40.141 --> 00:48:40.336
You are.
1565
00:48:40.337 --> 00:48:40.680
I appreciate it.
1566
00:48:40.681 --> 00:48:41.203
You're awesome.
1567
00:48:41.359 --> 00:48:41.602
Thanks.
1568
00:48:41.603 --> 00:48:45.625
And it's what drives me nuts as an old school parent is when
1569
00:48:46.172 --> 00:48:47.203
I'll be out with my kids.
1570
00:48:47.266 --> 00:48:48.313
There's no electronics at the table.
1571
00:48:48.781 --> 00:48:48.906
Oh,
1572
00:48:48.969 --> 00:48:49.125
yeah.
1573
00:48:49.188 --> 00:48:49.313
No,
1574
00:48:49.531 --> 00:48:49.781
I don't.
1575
00:48:49.828 --> 00:48:50.516
I don't do that either.
1576
00:48:50.609 --> 00:48:50.813
Right.
1577
00:48:50.953 --> 00:48:52.250
I tell them they have to keep in the car.
1578
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:53.656
I don't want to see it yep
1579
00:48:53.877 --> 00:48:54.778
It's not that important.
1580
00:48:54.898 --> 00:48:55.718
You're not that important.
1581
00:48:55.739 --> 00:48:55.898
Yeah.
1582
00:48:55.959 --> 00:48:56.218
I'm like,
1583
00:48:56.219 --> 00:48:56.560
we need to,
1584
00:48:56.699 --> 00:48:57.560
we all need to talk.
1585
00:48:57.820 --> 00:49:00.945
I was raised in upstate New York by Catholic Italians.
1586
00:49:01.086 --> 00:49:02.027
Like you break bread.
1587
00:49:02.105 --> 00:49:04.004
We eat and that's how we get to bond and get to.
1588
00:49:04.090 --> 00:49:05.269
I'm originally from Pennsylvania.
1589
00:49:05.371 --> 00:49:06.191
So I get it.
1590
00:49:06.192 --> 00:49:06.652
You know it.
1591
00:49:07.074 --> 00:49:07.347
Right.
1592
00:49:07.527 --> 00:49:07.730
Yeah.
1593
00:49:07.972 --> 00:49:08.230
And
1594
00:49:08.933 --> 00:49:15.152
I go out to restaurants and my kids will see it now that you'll see the parents on their phones.
1595
00:49:15.371 --> 00:49:15.636
Oh,
1596
00:49:15.637 --> 00:49:16.215
and the kids.
1597
00:49:16.216 --> 00:49:16.621
The kids.
1598
00:49:16.989 --> 00:49:17.630
iPads.
1599
00:49:17.631 --> 00:49:18.451
They're this close.
1600
00:49:18.550 --> 00:49:19.371
And they're watching,
1601
00:49:19.431 --> 00:49:19.972
you know,
1602
00:49:20.212 --> 00:49:22.195
Nickelodeon or YouTube videos,
1603
00:49:22.214 --> 00:49:22.554
whatever.
1604
00:49:22.675 --> 00:49:23.937
No social interaction.
1605
00:49:23.938 --> 00:49:24.417
God damn,
1606
00:49:24.656 --> 00:49:27.339
iPad is right here and there's no social interaction whatsoever.
1607
00:49:27.761 --> 00:49:28.839
And you're wondering why,
1608
00:49:29.582 --> 00:49:30.839
fast forward a few years,
1609
00:49:31.105 --> 00:49:32.628
these kids can't keep a job.
1610
00:49:32.941 --> 00:49:33.113
Yeah.
1611
00:49:33.222 --> 00:49:35.410
There's no socialization skills whatsoever,
1612
00:49:35.644 --> 00:49:35.785
right?
1613
00:49:35.832 --> 00:49:36.113
Exactly.
1614
00:49:36.566 --> 00:49:38.175
And that's why I think it's important for me.
1615
00:49:38.347 --> 00:49:38.503
Like,
1616
00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:39.175
I tell my kids,
1617
00:49:39.176 --> 00:49:39.457
I'm like,
1618
00:49:39.488 --> 00:49:39.816
all right,
1619
00:49:39.894 --> 00:49:40.472
on the weekends,
1620
00:49:40.473 --> 00:49:40.753
I'm like,
1621
00:49:41.066 --> 00:49:42.019
put your iPad down.
1622
00:49:42.300 --> 00:49:43.050
We're going hiking.
1623
00:49:43.441 --> 00:49:43.691
I'm like,
1624
00:49:43.769 --> 00:49:44.878
or we're going swimming.
1625
00:49:45.285 --> 00:49:47.947
Or we're doing something like even the trampoline park.
1626
00:49:48.007 --> 00:49:50.208
I don't care as long as you're not looking at a TV screen.
1627
00:49:50.849 --> 00:49:50.970
So,
1628
00:49:51.349 --> 00:49:51.533
yeah,
1629
00:49:51.611 --> 00:49:57.818
I definitely like I think it's very important for especially kids like I think under the age of seven,
1630
00:49:57.857 --> 00:50:04.029
I would say not to have any iPads or tablets because it's like you should be interacting with them.
1631
00:50:04.826 --> 00:50:05.638
My son.
1632
00:50:06.540 --> 00:50:08.581
He's a redhead with blue eyes.
1633
00:50:08.683 --> 00:50:10.425
He's just a sweet boy.
1634
00:50:11.046 --> 00:50:11.366
He's just,
1635
00:50:11.405 --> 00:50:12.284
he's kind.
1636
00:50:12.304 --> 00:50:12.968
That's cute.
1637
00:50:12.969 --> 00:50:13.687
He's got a little temper.
1638
00:50:14.226 --> 00:50:14.366
Oh,
1639
00:50:14.390 --> 00:50:14.671
okay.
1640
00:50:14.672 --> 00:50:15.585
He's a fiery redhead.
1641
00:50:15.827 --> 00:50:16.046
Okay.
1642
00:50:16.273 --> 00:50:18.015
So he was playing a video game on his iPad.
1643
00:50:18.016 --> 00:50:18.710
This is months ago.
1644
00:50:19.210 --> 00:50:20.210
He broke the iPad.
1645
00:50:20.632 --> 00:50:20.757
Yeah.
1646
00:50:20.758 --> 00:50:21.952
He tried to like break it in half.
1647
00:50:22.038 --> 00:50:22.257
Yeah.
1648
00:50:22.296 --> 00:50:23.132
And his mom told me,
1649
00:50:23.133 --> 00:50:23.460
I was like,
1650
00:50:23.710 --> 00:50:23.835
well,
1651
00:50:23.836 --> 00:50:24.398
fuck that.
1652
00:50:24.757 --> 00:50:25.366
Yeah.
1653
00:50:25.616 --> 00:50:26.366
And he said to me,
1654
00:50:26.679 --> 00:50:26.819
well,
1655
00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:27.601
we have insurance.
1656
00:50:27.616 --> 00:50:27.819
I go,
1657
00:50:28.023 --> 00:50:28.148
no,
1658
00:50:28.149 --> 00:50:28.241
no,
1659
00:50:28.398 --> 00:50:29.163
I have insurance.
1660
00:50:29.741 --> 00:50:30.382
You have nothing.
1661
00:50:31.304 --> 00:50:31.679
Don't do it.
1662
00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:31.819
I go,
1663
00:50:31.851 --> 00:50:32.007
honey,
1664
00:50:32.132 --> 00:50:33.210
I love you so much.
1665
00:50:33.319 --> 00:50:34.023
Just replace it.
1666
00:50:35.226 --> 00:50:35.632
and so
1667
00:50:36.380 --> 00:50:37.780
What we ended up doing is we turned,
1668
00:50:37.820 --> 00:50:38.081
again,
1669
00:50:38.200 --> 00:50:38.921
learning lesson.
1670
00:50:39.421 --> 00:50:39.700
I said,
1671
00:50:39.721 --> 00:50:39.901
honey,
1672
00:50:40.081 --> 00:50:40.901
we're done with the iPad.
1673
00:50:41.542 --> 00:50:42.003
We're done.
1674
00:50:42.643 --> 00:50:44.143
But you could start.
1675
00:50:44.905 --> 00:50:46.460
He's with us two or three days every single week.
1676
00:50:46.483 --> 00:50:46.663
I go,
1677
00:50:46.725 --> 00:50:47.866
you can go pick up cookies,
1678
00:50:47.921 --> 00:50:48.725
poop in the backyard.
1679
00:50:49.405 --> 00:50:50.061
Every single week,
1680
00:50:50.225 --> 00:50:50.960
you'll get five bucks.
1681
00:50:51.686 --> 00:50:52.780
You can go get the mail for us.
1682
00:50:53.389 --> 00:50:53.858
You'll get a buck.
1683
00:50:54.624 --> 00:50:56.405
And we'll start saving your money.
1684
00:50:56.686 --> 00:50:57.577
And then when you're ready,
1685
00:50:58.077 --> 00:51:00.108
if I think you're ready and your mom thinks so,
1686
00:51:00.421 --> 00:51:01.264
then we'll get another iPad.
1687
00:51:01.608 --> 00:51:01.733
Yep,
1688
00:51:01.734 --> 00:51:01.858
exactly.
1689
00:51:03.702 --> 00:51:04.733
but it like
1690
00:51:05.596 --> 00:51:06.397
The kids just,
1691
00:51:06.437 --> 00:51:09.519
there's no sense of consequences.
1692
00:51:09.699 --> 00:51:10.242
Exactly.
1693
00:51:10.262 --> 00:51:10.543
Right?
1694
00:51:10.562 --> 00:51:11.184
Exactly.
1695
00:51:11.461 --> 00:51:11.621
Yeah.
1696
00:51:11.703 --> 00:51:13.621
And that's why if I see,
1697
00:51:14.004 --> 00:51:17.644
if I hear my kids getting an attitude on the mic or any,
1698
00:51:18.012 --> 00:51:18.207
like,
1699
00:51:19.027 --> 00:51:19.793
even my son's like,
1700
00:51:19.832 --> 00:51:20.090
well,
1701
00:51:20.410 --> 00:51:21.434
they're getting an attitude with me.
1702
00:51:21.435 --> 00:51:21.715
I'm like,
1703
00:51:21.730 --> 00:51:22.230
I don't care.
1704
00:51:22.605 --> 00:51:22.887
I'm like,
1705
00:51:22.934 --> 00:51:25.074
you have to control yourself.
1706
00:51:25.699 --> 00:51:25.855
Like,
1707
00:51:25.871 --> 00:51:28.277
you have to do that no matter how mad someone makes you.
1708
00:51:28.543 --> 00:51:28.824
I said,
1709
00:51:28.871 --> 00:51:29.543
even in public,
1710
00:51:29.574 --> 00:51:29.824
I said,
1711
00:51:29.855 --> 00:51:30.074
how?
1712
00:51:30.324 --> 00:51:31.074
And I always say to him,
1713
00:51:31.340 --> 00:51:31.980
how do you think?
1714
00:51:33.096 --> 00:51:35.399
How mad do you think people make me online?
1715
00:51:36.020 --> 00:51:37.539
And do you see me always lashing out?
1716
00:51:37.801 --> 00:51:39.582
So you can't reply back to everyone.
1717
00:51:40.344 --> 00:51:40.743
And again,
1718
00:51:40.844 --> 00:51:42.086
you'll be in bed depressed all day.
1719
00:51:42.547 --> 00:51:42.664
Well,
1720
00:51:42.829 --> 00:51:43.024
it's,
1721
00:51:43.727 --> 00:51:44.110
again,
1722
00:51:45.289 --> 00:51:50.454
I'm just thinking about the mountain you've overcome in terms of perception.
1723
00:51:50.813 --> 00:51:51.141
Thank you.
1724
00:51:51.375 --> 00:51:51.532
Yeah.
1725
00:51:51.533 --> 00:51:51.938
You're welcome.
1726
00:51:52.282 --> 00:51:52.391
Yeah.
1727
00:51:52.610 --> 00:51:53.922
And I'm not blowing smoke up your skirt.
1728
00:51:54.172 --> 00:51:54.297
Yeah,
1729
00:51:54.298 --> 00:51:54.375
yeah.
1730
00:51:54.376 --> 00:51:54.610
Thank you.
1731
00:51:54.657 --> 00:51:55.375
You're a good person.
1732
00:51:55.485 --> 00:51:55.672
Yeah.
1733
00:51:55.860 --> 00:51:56.125
Thanks.
1734
00:51:56.454 --> 00:51:56.579
Yeah,
1735
00:51:56.735 --> 00:51:57.204
you're welcome.
1736
00:51:57.297 --> 00:51:57.782
And it's that,
1737
00:51:58.297 --> 00:52:01.547
but that's a battle you're going to fight all the time.
1738
00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:19.785
but you have that tortoise shell on your back you know you have that armor that if you've got to throw that on if you gotta you know you gotta channel your inner iron man you can do that definitely right definitely i've done it many times before and i i think i i think honey that it's something that your kids see that yeah
1739
00:52:19.957 --> 00:52:30.566
they definitely do yeah and i'm also powerful i'm always strict with them not too strict but very stern with them and i always i don't cross the border of like being too like
1740
00:52:30.792 --> 00:52:47.634
too much of a friend to them because i know a lot of parents a lot of younger parents they do that and it's like then their kids are sitting there joking and kidding around with them but then they never take you seriously you're not your kids friends exactly parents are not your kids you're you're not besties yeah you're not fucking besties no
1741
00:52:48.290 --> 00:52:57.353
you're you're there to make them a better version of you yeah you're there to impart wisdom upon them of mistakes that you've made definitely If you do it over again,
1742
00:52:57.962 --> 00:52:59.118
this is how you would do it differently.
1743
00:52:59.493 --> 00:52:59.634
Yeah.
1744
00:53:00.072 --> 00:53:00.372
You know,
1745
00:53:00.653 --> 00:53:02.394
I frequently say to my kids,
1746
00:53:02.594 --> 00:53:04.898
how am I doing as your dad?
1747
00:53:04.899 --> 00:53:05.578
And my son's like,
1748
00:53:05.579 --> 00:53:06.476
you're the best dad ever.
1749
00:53:06.477 --> 00:53:06.719
I'm like,
1750
00:53:06.898 --> 00:53:07.219
thank you,
1751
00:53:07.238 --> 00:53:07.418
honey.
1752
00:53:07.699 --> 00:53:08.562
But that's like giving a,
1753
00:53:08.703 --> 00:53:08.937
you know,
1754
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:10.664
five out of five review for Google reviews.
1755
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.344
I'd rather have three stars instead of five stars.
1756
00:53:13.562 --> 00:53:13.703
Yeah.
1757
00:53:13.906 --> 00:53:14.523
And tell me like,
1758
00:53:14.609 --> 00:53:14.726
well,
1759
00:53:14.727 --> 00:53:15.484
this or this.
1760
00:53:16.023 --> 00:53:17.789
My daughter will tell me if I'm screwing up on stuff.
1761
00:53:18.336 --> 00:53:18.804
Love that.
1762
00:53:19.195 --> 00:53:19.351
Love,
1763
00:53:19.367 --> 00:53:19.523
love,
1764
00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:19.711
love,
1765
00:53:19.726 --> 00:53:19.898
love.
1766
00:53:20.836 --> 00:53:21.773
Be real with me.
1767
00:53:22.258 --> 00:53:22.414
Yeah.
1768
00:53:22.773 --> 00:53:23.039
Right.
1769
00:53:23.195 --> 00:53:23.695
Definitely.
1770
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:24.539
Definitely.
1771
00:53:24.570 --> 00:53:24.695
No.
1772
00:53:24.742 --> 00:53:26.554
And I'm like that to my kids too.
1773
00:53:26.555 --> 00:53:27.320
And I always teach them,
1774
00:53:27.383 --> 00:53:27.554
like,
1775
00:53:27.555 --> 00:53:28.226
be honest.
1776
00:53:28.672 --> 00:53:29.793
Be very honest with me.
1777
00:53:29.974 --> 00:53:31.394
Be very honest with everybody.
1778
00:53:31.775 --> 00:53:32.034
I said,
1779
00:53:32.035 --> 00:53:32.874
but don't like,
1780
00:53:33.956 --> 00:53:34.640
my son Kaiser,
1781
00:53:34.641 --> 00:53:36.159
he's a little bit too honest sometimes.
1782
00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:36.480
I'm like,
1783
00:53:36.499 --> 00:53:36.640
well,
1784
00:53:36.702 --> 00:53:38.460
don't like try to hurt people's feelings.
1785
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:40.101
Well,
1786
00:53:40.827 --> 00:53:41.366
know the room.
1787
00:53:42.366 --> 00:53:42.546
Yeah.
1788
00:53:42.866 --> 00:53:48.351
But I'd rather a kid goes overboard than hides it and doesn't say anything.
1789
00:53:49.038 --> 00:53:49.913
And pushes it down.
1790
00:53:50.054 --> 00:53:50.898
And bottles it up.
1791
00:53:50.976 --> 00:53:51.773
And bottles it up.
1792
00:53:51.774 --> 00:53:52.288
And explodes.
1793
00:53:52.516 --> 00:53:54.779
Because then that's just destruction.
1794
00:53:54.958 --> 00:53:56.080
Then you're just like,
1795
00:53:56.742 --> 00:53:59.421
it's awful for the kid and for everybody around them and the whole thing.
1796
00:53:59.624 --> 00:54:00.105
Yeah.
1797
00:54:00.106 --> 00:54:00.843
And all of a sudden you're like,
1798
00:54:00.882 --> 00:54:01.124
whoa,
1799
00:54:01.187 --> 00:54:02.226
how do we get to this point?
1800
00:54:02.227 --> 00:54:02.664
And they're like,
1801
00:54:03.007 --> 00:54:03.304
well,
1802
00:54:03.624 --> 00:54:04.085
there was A,
1803
00:54:04.187 --> 00:54:04.304
B,
1804
00:54:04.531 --> 00:54:04.648
C,
1805
00:54:04.828 --> 00:54:06.171
and D that led up to E.
1806
00:54:07.453 --> 00:54:07.914
And it's like,
1807
00:54:08.007 --> 00:54:09.351
I didn't know any of that was happening.
1808
00:54:09.710 --> 00:54:09.929
Okay.
1809
00:54:10.398 --> 00:54:11.039
Last topic.
1810
00:54:12.210 --> 00:54:12.742
Are you dating?
1811
00:54:14.117 --> 00:54:15.382
I am on dating apps,
1812
00:54:15.492 --> 00:54:16.773
but I'm still single.
1813
00:54:16.898 --> 00:54:17.085
Okay.
1814
00:54:17.101 --> 00:54:17.695
Because I was,
1815
00:54:18.585 --> 00:54:18.929
I've just,
1816
00:54:19.085 --> 00:54:20.617
I'm married now for a couple of years,
1817
00:54:20.710 --> 00:54:21.445
but when I was single,
1818
00:54:21.446 --> 00:54:21.945
I was on dating.
1819
00:54:22.332 --> 00:54:23.573
Vegas is tough to date,
1820
00:54:23.594 --> 00:54:23.834
man.
1821
00:54:24.113 --> 00:54:24.475
It is.
1822
00:54:24.514 --> 00:54:24.734
Right?
1823
00:54:24.775 --> 00:54:25.814
And a lot of people,
1824
00:54:26.195 --> 00:54:29.240
it's hard to read them because you're like,
1825
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:30.377
are you telling the truth?
1826
00:54:30.924 --> 00:54:31.361
And
1827
00:54:32.299 --> 00:54:32.705
I don't know.
1828
00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:35.666
I feel like a lot of guys here are very egotistical.
1829
00:54:36.283 --> 00:54:37.744
And it's like they are just like,
1830
00:54:39.752 --> 00:54:40.127
I don't know.
1831
00:54:40.189 --> 00:54:40.908
It's hard to read them.
1832
00:54:41.674 --> 00:54:43.830
But I want a guy that's financially stable.
1833
00:54:45.721 --> 00:54:47.861
He can be a dad or doesn't have to be a dad,
1834
00:54:47.877 --> 00:54:48.893
but just treats me right,
1835
00:54:48.939 --> 00:54:50.096
accepts that I have kids.
1836
00:54:50.955 --> 00:54:51.205
and
1837
00:54:52.900 --> 00:54:53.060
Yeah,
1838
00:54:53.200 --> 00:54:54.402
I just think we have to,
1839
00:54:54.461 --> 00:54:54.781
like,
1840
00:54:55.563 --> 00:54:56.364
align together,
1841
00:54:56.803 --> 00:54:57.123
you know.
1842
00:54:57.205 --> 00:55:00.127
Do you have any dating horror stories from being in Vegas?
1843
00:55:02.252 --> 00:55:04.651
I've only been on two dates since I've been here.
1844
00:55:05.218 --> 00:55:06.579
The first one went great.
1845
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:07.761
He opened the door for me.
1846
00:55:08.761 --> 00:55:08.882
Oh,
1847
00:55:08.921 --> 00:55:09.363
I love that.
1848
00:55:09.542 --> 00:55:09.722
Yeah,
1849
00:55:09.723 --> 00:55:10.605
he opened the door for me.
1850
00:55:10.702 --> 00:55:13.523
He wanted to like pull out my chair and scoop me in.
1851
00:55:13.624 --> 00:55:14.531
He did everything.
1852
00:55:14.546 --> 00:55:15.507
He was a gentleman.
1853
00:55:15.929 --> 00:55:16.827
He didn't drink.
1854
00:55:17.070 --> 00:55:17.890
I had two drinks.
1855
00:55:17.891 --> 00:55:18.710
He paid for it.
1856
00:55:18.711 --> 00:55:19.452
I didn't have to pay,
1857
00:55:19.890 --> 00:55:21.234
which is a big thing because in the past,
1858
00:55:21.281 --> 00:55:22.374
like I paid for everybody.
1859
00:55:23.593 --> 00:55:25.656
But the second date I went on,
1860
00:55:26.484 --> 00:55:26.718
you know,
1861
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:28.859
the first one was like very formal and I loved it.
1862
00:55:29.156 --> 00:55:29.562
I was like,
1863
00:55:29.577 --> 00:55:29.796
wow,
1864
00:55:29.843 --> 00:55:31.156
this is like back in like,
1865
00:55:31.624 --> 00:55:31.921
you know,
1866
00:55:31.999 --> 00:55:33.827
when guys really took it seriously,
1867
00:55:33.968 --> 00:55:34.281
you know.
1868
00:55:34.498 --> 00:55:55.907
great and then I went on this second date recently and he's like oh let's meet at a bar and then we met at a bar and then it was kind of like it was kind of like we were friends more than on a date yeah and I was like he never wanted to go on dinners after that he just oh let's just we can hang out at my house if you want and I was like
1869
00:55:56.626 --> 00:56:02.672
I don't want to be doing that all the time and then he didn't want he he didn't really seem open to
1870
00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:19.959
someone having kids and never really like ask questions about them how's their personality and that says a lot to me it's like you're just interested in me and only me but you don't care about my kids so i cut them off on behalf of all men around the planet i apologize no
1871
00:56:20.099 --> 00:56:31.756
thank you no i know all men aren't like because it's well it's i'll tell you my the hack that we're not way older than you but the hack that worked for me bumble travel mode oh done done
1872
00:56:31.926 --> 00:57:00.315
that's crazy i was for six months my mom was really sick in tampa so i was every other weekend no kids flying out to tampa to take care of my mom yeah and which was i mean it's awful but i was doing it i was either with her or all of her friends that are all 70 80 90 years old which are all wonderful people but it was like a golden girls rerun every single time yeah loved it but i you know wanted some socialization so i started to do i found out that there's travel mode in bumble
1873
00:57:00.886 --> 00:57:03.208
As soon as I was wheels down at Tampa airport,
1874
00:57:03.529 --> 00:57:03.769
bing,
1875
00:57:03.869 --> 00:57:04.109
bing,
1876
00:57:04.189 --> 00:57:04.429
bing,
1877
00:57:04.509 --> 00:57:04.730
bing,
1878
00:57:04.810 --> 00:57:05.009
bing,
1879
00:57:05.072 --> 00:57:05.232
bing,
1880
00:57:05.233 --> 00:57:05.931
because it was fresh meat.
1881
00:57:06.451 --> 00:57:06.693
Because,
1882
00:57:06.751 --> 00:57:07.033
you know,
1883
00:57:07.072 --> 00:57:07.974
like when you want dating apps,
1884
00:57:07.975 --> 00:57:09.619
you kind of date everybody that you see there.
1885
00:57:09.634 --> 00:57:09.876
You're like,
1886
00:57:10.595 --> 00:57:11.017
forget it.
1887
00:57:11.173 --> 00:57:11.400
Yeah.
1888
00:57:11.720 --> 00:57:12.775
And went on a few dates,
1889
00:57:12.915 --> 00:57:15.798
ended up meeting my now wife after the first date.
1890
00:57:15.799 --> 00:57:16.040
I'm like,
1891
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:17.181
I don't want to be with anybody else.
1892
00:57:17.587 --> 00:57:20.931
And we had long distance for a year and a half and manifested and I moved her.
1893
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:21.728
Thank you.
1894
00:57:21.947 --> 00:57:22.462
I moved her,
1895
00:57:22.587 --> 00:57:23.040
her dog,
1896
00:57:23.072 --> 00:57:23.431
her cat,
1897
00:57:23.432 --> 00:57:23.869
her sister,
1898
00:57:23.962 --> 00:57:25.994
or her daughter out here last summer.
1899
00:57:26.275 --> 00:57:28.587
Because either long distance works or doesn't work.
1900
00:57:30.134 --> 00:57:30.322
it's
1901
00:57:30.898 --> 00:57:34.242
You have to have the same two people that I can just work with.
1902
00:57:34.861 --> 00:57:36.744
The reason why I'm raging ADHD,
1903
00:57:37.084 --> 00:57:37.584
and so is she.
1904
00:57:37.744 --> 00:57:38.146
She's nuts.
1905
00:57:38.427 --> 00:57:38.865
I love her,
1906
00:57:38.904 --> 00:57:39.631
but you're fucking nuts,
1907
00:57:39.646 --> 00:57:39.888
Brandy.
1908
00:57:40.404 --> 00:57:44.349
And so what got me is she would always send me these memes,
1909
00:57:44.350 --> 00:57:47.052
and it was either like very romantic or hilarious.
1910
00:57:47.334 --> 00:57:47.537
Okay.
1911
00:57:47.615 --> 00:57:49.693
And they were like little Hallmark cards to me.
1912
00:57:50.193 --> 00:57:50.974
But she was taking,
1913
00:57:51.131 --> 00:57:52.412
no one ever did that to me before.
1914
00:57:52.787 --> 00:57:53.006
Okay.
1915
00:57:53.177 --> 00:57:57.068
She was taking the time out of her busy day to say,
1916
00:57:57.162 --> 00:57:57.302
hey,
1917
00:57:57.490 --> 00:57:58.443
I care about you.
1918
00:57:58.865 --> 00:58:00.474
this made me laugh or this is
1919
00:58:01.015 --> 00:58:01.376
naughty.
1920
00:58:01.939 --> 00:58:03.307
And so I wanted to share it with you.
1921
00:58:03.326 --> 00:58:03.688
And I'm like,
1922
00:58:05.037 --> 00:58:22.547
thank you and see and that's another thing i've had i've had people well the first the first guy i went on a date with he was very you know a very big talker very big texter with texts like paragraphs to me and he actually still does it now and i just i don't respond and
1923
00:58:22.578 --> 00:58:28.813
it's like the good guys you don't respond to i don't know why that is but um then this other guy that i just went on a date with,
1924
00:58:28.844 --> 00:58:31.000
he hardly communicates,
1925
00:58:31.422 --> 00:58:32.485
doesn't really text.
1926
00:58:32.728 --> 00:58:33.268
when he texts,
1927
00:58:33.269 --> 00:58:34.228
he acts like a friend.
1928
00:58:34.348 --> 00:58:34.648
I'm like,
1929
00:58:34.668 --> 00:58:35.269
that's weird.
1930
00:58:35.728 --> 00:58:39.148
So now I've just been kind of like focusing on the kids because
1931
00:58:39.648 --> 00:58:42.148
I am on like the Bumble subscription.
1932
00:58:42.273 --> 00:58:43.492
So it tells me who likes me.
1933
00:58:43.851 --> 00:58:44.750
So when I sign on,
1934
00:58:44.812 --> 00:58:46.890
it'll say like 2000 people likes you.
1935
00:58:47.273 --> 00:58:49.132
And then it just keeps adding more every day.
1936
00:58:49.539 --> 00:58:50.007
So I'm like,
1937
00:58:50.085 --> 00:58:50.429
whoa,
1938
00:58:50.710 --> 00:58:53.445
this is too many guys to look at right now.
1939
00:58:53.835 --> 00:58:56.726
And I'm kind of overwhelmed with the first two dates.
1940
00:58:56.773 --> 00:58:57.601
So I'm just like,
1941
00:58:58.054 --> 00:58:58.351
you know,
1942
00:58:58.539 --> 00:59:01.789
I was married while I was with my ex-husband for nine years.
1943
00:59:02.160 --> 00:59:04.403
And we were married for seven years.
1944
00:59:04.461 --> 00:59:05.002
So for me,
1945
00:59:05.323 --> 00:59:05.944
it's like,
1946
00:59:06.325 --> 00:59:07.465
I don't need to jump into it.
1947
00:59:07.825 --> 00:59:08.426
You know what I mean?
1948
00:59:08.567 --> 00:59:09.629
I can take my time.
1949
00:59:09.688 --> 00:59:15.856
And I think actually going on dates is new for me because before when I dated guys,
1950
00:59:15.872 --> 00:59:22.379
it was just like new through a friend or because of a party or like same friend group or whatever.
1951
00:59:22.536 --> 00:59:23.286
And now it's like,
1952
00:59:23.348 --> 00:59:24.317
this is all new for me.
1953
00:59:24.567 --> 00:59:25.036
Do you cook?
1954
00:59:25.489 --> 00:59:25.957
Are you a cooker?
1955
00:59:25.958 --> 00:59:26.176
Yes.
1956
00:59:26.629 --> 00:59:27.239
Are you a good cook?
1957
00:59:27.770 --> 00:59:27.957
Yes.
1958
00:59:28.051 --> 00:59:28.207
Like,
1959
00:59:28.208 --> 00:59:28.848
what do you love to cook?
1960
00:59:28.864 --> 00:59:30.286
What's your go-to meal you love to cook?
1961
00:59:30.492 --> 00:59:50.531
um i love to grill so anything on the grill guys yeah she likes to grill when she's single yeah and my kids love it too we grill my backyard by my pool so if and ever we just bought one of those traeger it's like a smoker okay i had one in nc but now i bought uh the pit boss how
1962
00:59:50.532 --> 00:59:58.515
is it i love it i bought those are forget it it's so easy right because girls don't think they can gorilla and I'm like you just throw wood in there
1963
00:59:59.008 --> 01:00:00.850
And you set the temperature and hit start.
1964
01:00:00.950 --> 01:00:01.351
That's it.
1965
01:00:01.531 --> 01:00:02.050
Walk away.
1966
01:00:02.370 --> 01:00:03.073
It's just like an oven.
1967
01:00:03.273 --> 01:00:06.577
My wife does chicken wings with the Traeger.
1968
01:00:06.757 --> 01:00:07.273
And it's like,
1969
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:08.054
I get goosebumps,
1970
01:00:08.116 --> 01:00:08.296
man.
1971
01:00:08.421 --> 01:00:10.343
It's like bananas.
1972
01:00:10.344 --> 01:00:11.077
They're so good.
1973
01:00:11.116 --> 01:00:11.663
But she does.
1974
01:00:11.757 --> 01:00:13.523
But that's another thing.
1975
01:00:13.585 --> 01:00:14.445
I guess it's just,
1976
01:00:14.601 --> 01:00:15.718
it's hard to date now.
1977
01:00:16.249 --> 01:00:16.530
It is.
1978
01:00:16.531 --> 01:00:16.952
Because we're,
1979
01:00:17.046 --> 01:00:17.187
it's,
1980
01:00:17.327 --> 01:00:18.202
especially in Vegas.
1981
01:00:18.249 --> 01:00:19.202
And you have kids already.
1982
01:00:19.234 --> 01:00:20.046
You have kids.
1983
01:00:21.062 --> 01:00:21.234
It's,
1984
01:00:21.235 --> 01:00:21.405
I mean,
1985
01:00:21.671 --> 01:00:23.187
I have another one of my friends,
1986
01:00:23.515 --> 01:00:24.140
Chris Chansky,
1987
01:00:24.171 --> 01:00:25.234
and Chris will see this.
1988
01:00:25.280 --> 01:00:26.296
And she runs
1989
01:00:26.718 --> 01:00:27.515
Range 702.
1990
01:00:28.164 --> 01:00:43.890
the machine gun range and she's awesome she's gorgeous she's funny she's a single mom but she's like i'm done and we i have a clip i posted and she's like i would go on dates with these guys these guys would contact me through dating apps and they'd go well i've got a suite and
1991
01:00:44.327 --> 01:00:53.233
she's like that's annoying bitch i live in vegas yeah exactly i've been to all those rooms i know what those you know the number one thing i asked someone
1992
01:00:53.588 --> 01:00:53.948
But like,
1993
01:00:54.049 --> 01:00:55.209
as soon as they start messaging me,
1994
01:00:55.210 --> 01:00:55.551
I'm like,
1995
01:00:55.590 --> 01:00:56.932
are you local or visiting?
1996
01:00:57.252 --> 01:00:58.274
And if they say visiting,
1997
01:00:58.793 --> 01:00:59.235
cut them off.
1998
01:00:59.375 --> 01:00:59.492
Yeah.
1999
01:00:59.895 --> 01:01:00.016
Yeah.
2000
01:01:00.156 --> 01:01:01.977
That's my number one question.
2001
01:01:02.414 --> 01:01:03.438
Because I'm not like,
2002
01:01:04.180 --> 01:01:04.977
some guys will be like,
2003
01:01:05.016 --> 01:01:05.141
oh,
2004
01:01:05.156 --> 01:01:06.422
I'm in town this weekend.
2005
01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:07.399
But I mean,
2006
01:01:07.703 --> 01:01:08.703
we can still hang.
2007
01:01:08.742 --> 01:01:09.203
And I'm like,
2008
01:01:09.242 --> 01:01:09.367
no,
2009
01:01:09.946 --> 01:01:11.649
because I know you're just looking for a hookup.
2010
01:01:11.711 --> 01:01:12.914
That's all it is.
2011
01:01:13.071 --> 01:01:13.227
Yeah.
2012
01:01:13.492 --> 01:01:15.742
Do the guys know you from
2013
01:01:16.305 --> 01:01:16.508
TV?
2014
01:01:18.274 --> 01:01:19.586
Not the guys I went on a date with.
2015
01:01:20.055 --> 01:01:20.571
Good.
2016
01:01:21.449 --> 01:01:46.870
uh about two guys have noticed me on the dating apps and said are you janelle or someone messaged me and said someone's impersonating you and i was like that's me i actually got shut down on tinder um like back before i got married because they thought i was impersonating someone no yeah they deleted my account no it's so weird it's before they had like the verification process so
2017
01:01:46.995 --> 01:01:50.355
yeah and then I had to like go back and make my profile all over again
2018
01:01:51.172 --> 01:02:08.856
yeah do you travel i do sometimes depending on if i have to go to events or whatever but travel mode no i've never done that before i'll do it that's what i i literally i mean i was then i was 51 50 older but i was like dating age-appropriate women like so
2019
01:02:09.356 --> 01:02:19.340
40s like 42 and up yeah let's roll yeah but it was either yes i was into it and they weren't or vice versa and so i was like i'm done here
2020
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:20.321
I'm done.
2021
01:02:20.401 --> 01:02:21.081
And then all of a sudden,
2022
01:02:21.082 --> 01:02:21.221
I'm like,
2023
01:02:21.222 --> 01:02:21.401
you know,
2024
01:02:21.402 --> 01:02:22.762
I'm going to Tampa twice a month.
2025
01:02:22.803 --> 01:02:25.007
Why don't I just find somebody there?
2026
01:02:25.046 --> 01:02:25.885
Maybe let's go out for drinks.
2027
01:02:26.147 --> 01:02:26.288
Yeah.
2028
01:02:26.448 --> 01:02:27.546
And have a nice conversation.
2029
01:02:27.589 --> 01:02:28.108
Exactly.
2030
01:02:28.889 --> 01:02:29.249
It was,
2031
01:02:29.772 --> 01:02:30.272
and I never,
2032
01:02:30.350 --> 01:02:35.296
I've talked to other like women that are dating for a guy not to pay.
2033
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:36.389
Oh,
2034
01:02:36.499 --> 01:02:36.639
well,
2035
01:02:36.640 --> 01:02:37.733
the guys that went on dates,
2036
01:02:38.077 --> 01:02:38.483
they did.
2037
01:02:38.811 --> 01:02:40.077
But my exes didn't,
2038
01:02:40.358 --> 01:02:41.655
never paid for anything.
2039
01:02:42.624 --> 01:02:42.827
Yeah.
2040
01:02:43.218 --> 01:02:43.608
Why?
2041
01:02:43.749 --> 01:02:43.889
Yeah.
2042
01:02:43.936 --> 01:02:45.327
That was one of the reasons why,
2043
01:02:45.624 --> 01:02:45.952
you know,
2044
01:02:46.311 --> 01:02:47.983
I got a divorce because.
2045
01:02:49.105 --> 01:02:50.326
I was taking care of the bills.
2046
01:02:50.346 --> 01:02:51.888
I was taking care of the house.
2047
01:02:52.589 --> 01:02:56.273
It came down to a point in 2019 when MTV,
2048
01:02:57.253 --> 01:03:00.019
they wanted to take a break with me and they let me go for that season.
2049
01:03:00.035 --> 01:03:04.660
It was because of my ex-husband's actions because they were so bad.
2050
01:03:04.964 --> 01:03:05.402
They were like,
2051
01:03:06.027 --> 01:03:06.980
if you're still married to him,
2052
01:03:06.981 --> 01:03:07.949
we want nothing to do with you,
2053
01:03:07.950 --> 01:03:08.386
basically.
2054
01:03:08.964 --> 01:03:10.042
So when that happened,
2055
01:03:10.246 --> 01:03:11.402
I was panicking.
2056
01:03:12.355 --> 01:03:13.902
What am I going to do next for a job?
2057
01:03:13.996 --> 01:03:15.324
What's my future going to look like?
2058
01:03:15.730 --> 01:03:16.808
I had no idea what I was going to do.
2059
01:03:17.074 --> 01:03:17.871
And I was panicking.
2060
01:03:17.980 --> 01:03:18.308
Yeah.
2061
01:03:18.493 --> 01:03:18.613
So,
2062
01:03:19.474 --> 01:03:19.775
you know,
2063
01:03:19.834 --> 01:03:20.496
as a husband,
2064
01:03:20.515 --> 01:03:22.296
you would think I'm going to take over.
2065
01:03:22.537 --> 01:03:23.837
I'm going to take care of this family.
2066
01:03:23.939 --> 01:03:26.259
She's been doing it since day one.
2067
01:03:26.302 --> 01:03:27.165
Let me take over.
2068
01:03:27.705 --> 01:03:28.580
He didn't pay one bill.
2069
01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:33.931
Our mortgage got three months behind and it almost got foreclosed.
2070
01:03:34.048 --> 01:03:34.915
And nobody knows that.
2071
01:03:35.494 --> 01:03:36.712
Almost got foreclosed.
2072
01:03:36.837 --> 01:03:40.931
And because of me and making a YouTube series that I did,
2073
01:03:41.009 --> 01:03:45.103
which was a YouTube series about a CPS documentary that I put together.
2074
01:03:45.665 --> 01:03:46.884
And it was like 10 episodes.
2075
01:03:47.037 --> 01:03:49.360
And it was the truth about what happened with me and CPS.
2076
01:03:49.940 --> 01:03:50.261
And,
2077
01:03:51.122 --> 01:03:51.380
you know,
2078
01:03:51.442 --> 01:03:52.501
ultimately it got dropped.
2079
01:03:52.802 --> 01:03:53.044
But,
2080
01:03:53.184 --> 01:03:53.462
you know,
2081
01:03:53.481 --> 01:03:55.005
to explain everything that happened,
2082
01:03:55.028 --> 01:03:55.583
I did that.
2083
01:03:55.888 --> 01:04:02.372
And I pulled myself out of the hole and paid back my mortgage and pulled ourselves out of that hole.
2084
01:04:03.231 --> 01:04:04.794
And it's just crazy because
2085
01:04:05.794 --> 01:04:07.716
I kept my eye on him ever since then.
2086
01:04:08.138 --> 01:04:08.841
And I was like,
2087
01:04:09.278 --> 01:04:13.216
if you're not going to make any changes for your family to save them,
2088
01:04:13.263 --> 01:04:14.356
to save the house,
2089
01:04:14.950 --> 01:04:16.388
you're not even willing to do that.
2090
01:04:17.141 --> 01:04:18.963
And that spoke volumes to me.
2091
01:04:18.982 --> 01:04:20.264
And not only that,
2092
01:04:20.305 --> 01:04:23.506
but like his attitude and the way he treated the kids,
2093
01:04:23.549 --> 01:04:26.127
that was like a whole another reason why,
2094
01:04:26.228 --> 01:04:26.572
you know,
2095
01:04:26.573 --> 01:04:27.353
I was divorcing him.
2096
01:04:27.713 --> 01:04:28.494
I just can't.
2097
01:04:28.830 --> 01:04:29.033
Again,
2098
01:04:29.057 --> 01:04:29.611
I'm old school.
2099
01:04:29.612 --> 01:04:30.650
I'm very traditional that way.
2100
01:04:30.651 --> 01:04:30.932
I'm like,
2101
01:04:31.275 --> 01:04:32.760
my wife hasn't touched a door,
2102
01:04:33.478 --> 01:04:34.713
a door handle or doorknob.
2103
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:34.885
No,
2104
01:04:34.900 --> 01:04:35.322
that's great.
2105
01:04:35.416 --> 01:04:36.135
In a while.
2106
01:04:36.338 --> 01:04:36.572
But also,
2107
01:04:36.573 --> 01:04:36.697
like,
2108
01:04:36.698 --> 01:04:37.682
she's from northern Georgia.
2109
01:04:37.978 --> 01:04:38.947
She's from Appalachia.
2110
01:04:39.510 --> 01:04:39.682
Like,
2111
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:40.963
she has a deep southern accent,
2112
01:04:40.978 --> 01:04:42.010
which drives me crazy.
2113
01:04:42.025 --> 01:04:42.385
I love it.
2114
01:04:42.666 --> 01:04:43.244
But it's like,
2115
01:04:43.432 --> 01:04:43.541
no,
2116
01:04:43.869 --> 01:04:44.307
like women,
2117
01:04:44.572 --> 01:04:44.744
like,
2118
01:04:44.791 --> 01:04:46.166
you open the door for them.
2119
01:04:46.341 --> 01:04:47.002
You pay for things.
2120
01:04:47.102 --> 01:04:47.302
Yeah.
2121
01:04:47.382 --> 01:04:49.044
It's like that's how it should be done.
2122
01:04:49.185 --> 01:04:49.704
Exactly.
2123
01:04:49.743 --> 01:04:53.208
And I hear all the time that like going Dutch,
2124
01:04:53.267 --> 01:04:54.247
like you split the bill.
2125
01:04:54.528 --> 01:04:55.388
Split the fucking bill.
2126
01:04:55.466 --> 01:04:55.950
Exactly.
2127
01:04:55.974 --> 01:04:56.708
Yeah.
2128
01:04:56.747 --> 01:04:56.935
Yeah.
2129
01:04:57.255 --> 01:04:57.411
What?
2130
01:04:57.872 --> 01:05:01.919
For all the time a woman has to put in for clothes,
2131
01:05:02.482 --> 01:05:02.950
shoes,
2132
01:05:03.278 --> 01:05:03.622
hair,
2133
01:05:04.075 --> 01:05:04.513
makeup,
2134
01:05:05.044 --> 01:05:05.872
all the things,
2135
01:05:06.013 --> 01:05:10.044
you got to go through your checklist of getting ready or a guy just fucking gets in the shower,
2136
01:05:10.185 --> 01:05:13.122
puts some antiperspirant on and throws something on and goes.
2137
01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:13.888
And I was going to say,
2138
01:05:13.950 --> 01:05:15.513
before I even get myself ready.
2139
01:05:16.061 --> 01:05:18.263
I'm literally in my pajamas getting my kids ready.
2140
01:05:18.785 --> 01:05:21.949
And I go out the door and drop them off in my pajamas and I'm still not ready.
2141
01:05:22.449 --> 01:05:24.230
And I have to come back home and get myself ready.
2142
01:05:24.527 --> 01:05:27.371
So that's like a whole nother dynamic when you have kids as well.
2143
01:05:27.816 --> 01:05:30.316
And then it's like towards the end of my marriage,
2144
01:05:30.855 --> 01:05:31.738
he was like,
2145
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:32.394
what do I do?
2146
01:05:32.644 --> 01:05:33.644
Can we go to counseling?
2147
01:05:33.660 --> 01:05:33.925
I said,
2148
01:05:33.926 --> 01:05:36.394
I've asked you to go to counseling many times.
2149
01:05:37.988 --> 01:05:40.191
Now it's the last straw and you want to go to counseling.
2150
01:05:40.192 --> 01:05:40.785
I'm not doing it.
2151
01:05:41.269 --> 01:05:41.566
I'm like,
2152
01:05:41.567 --> 01:05:44.988
you can contact me once you're gone if you want to go to counseling.
2153
01:05:45.489 --> 01:05:50.915
And he tried to be nice to me for like the first week and like tried to be all sweet to me and wanted me back.
2154
01:05:51.016 --> 01:05:55.141
But he had my BMW and I put a GPS tracker on it.
2155
01:05:55.696 --> 01:05:56.579
And I was seeing that.
2156
01:05:56.641 --> 01:05:57.079
I love you.
2157
01:05:57.579 --> 01:05:58.243
I love you so much.
2158
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:04.970
And I was seeing that he was going to the bar and lying to me about it and staying out till like three or four in the morning with my car.
2159
01:06:05.704 --> 01:06:06.470
So it was like,
2160
01:06:06.657 --> 01:06:08.251
you didn't want to change your drinking habits.
2161
01:06:08.470 --> 01:06:10.079
You didn't want to get help for your anger.
2162
01:06:10.688 --> 01:06:13.704
You didn't want to save your family with the house.
2163
01:06:14.353 --> 01:06:30.646
um you didn't want to do anything and then when it came down to it then you got desperate and um was that a fight or was that more of you're like hey you're at the bar this isn't going to work out well right now there's he has pending charges for
2164
01:06:30.755 --> 01:06:43.146
a different case that's involving my 15 year old son don't talk about it it's 100 yeah don't let's not go there yeah yeah well because of that there's a no contact order okay between my son and my ex
2165
01:06:44.237 --> 01:06:48.039
So I was able to force my ex to leave because I was like,
2166
01:06:48.040 --> 01:06:48.618
you have to get out.
2167
01:06:48.619 --> 01:06:49.598
There's no contact order.
2168
01:06:49.957 --> 01:06:51.477
But at the same time,
2169
01:06:52.938 --> 01:06:54.461
he left and a week later,
2170
01:06:54.500 --> 01:06:55.977
he was getting suspicious like,
2171
01:06:56.383 --> 01:06:57.000
are we over?
2172
01:06:57.102 --> 01:06:57.782
Are we together?
2173
01:06:57.961 --> 01:06:58.243
I'm like,
2174
01:06:58.244 --> 01:06:59.258
you need to come get your stuff.
2175
01:06:59.899 --> 01:07:00.258
I was like,
2176
01:07:00.274 --> 01:07:00.696
it's done.
2177
01:07:00.836 --> 01:07:01.539
Okay.
2178
01:07:02.024 --> 01:07:02.336
Once again,
2179
01:07:02.477 --> 01:07:03.274
on behalf of all men,
2180
01:07:03.508 --> 01:07:04.118
I apologize.
2181
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:04.243
No,
2182
01:07:04.368 --> 01:07:05.024
it's okay.
2183
01:07:05.025 --> 01:07:05.383
I'm sorry.
2184
01:07:06.118 --> 01:07:06.977
He came and got his stuff.
2185
01:07:06.978 --> 01:07:08.008
All guys are not that bad.
2186
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:08.180
Like,
2187
01:07:08.181 --> 01:07:08.524
oh my God.
2188
01:07:08.649 --> 01:07:08.836
Yeah.
2189
01:07:09.149 --> 01:07:10.508
And then he came and got his stuff.
2190
01:07:10.539 --> 01:07:10.664
and
2191
01:07:11.105 --> 01:07:13.328
Once he got his stuff and he was walking out my door,
2192
01:07:13.447 --> 01:07:17.090
he was literally crying to me on his knees saying,
2193
01:07:17.129 --> 01:07:17.891
I can fix this.
2194
01:07:17.934 --> 01:07:18.692
I can fix this.
2195
01:07:18.754 --> 01:07:19.231
And I said,
2196
01:07:19.410 --> 01:07:20.176
it's too late.
2197
01:07:20.177 --> 01:07:20.434
I said,
2198
01:07:20.535 --> 01:07:20.793
leave.
2199
01:07:21.371 --> 01:07:22.059
And then he left.
2200
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:23.778
So that was the last time
2201
01:07:24.481 --> 01:07:25.238
I took him back.
2202
01:07:25.278 --> 01:07:26.778
And that was the last time I heard from him.
2203
01:07:26.879 --> 01:07:27.762
But we had a lot of,
2204
01:07:28.309 --> 01:07:28.543
you know,
2205
01:07:28.544 --> 01:07:29.215
a lot of people are like,
2206
01:07:29.262 --> 01:07:30.403
why didn't you leave earlier?
2207
01:07:30.590 --> 01:07:32.699
And I tried to when I was ready,
2208
01:07:33.012 --> 01:07:35.262
but we both owned the house.
2209
01:07:35.965 --> 01:07:36.934
So if I say get out.
2210
01:07:37.165 --> 01:07:38.871
He can tell me to get out and you can stay.
2211
01:07:38.872 --> 01:07:39.433
That's the whole thing.
2212
01:07:39.613 --> 01:07:40.957
Cops get called and nobody wins.
2213
01:07:40.958 --> 01:07:41.058
Yeah,
2214
01:07:41.059 --> 01:07:41.558
you can stay.
2215
01:07:42.082 --> 01:07:43.789
So this was my way out.
2216
01:07:44.328 --> 01:07:45.409
having the no contact order.
2217
01:07:45.410 --> 01:07:45.750
Good for you.
2218
01:07:46.070 --> 01:07:46.269
Yeah.
2219
01:07:46.510 --> 01:07:47.852
So pro tip with dating,
2220
01:07:48.092 --> 01:07:48.912
and this is back when I,
2221
01:07:49.014 --> 01:07:49.955
because I did,
2222
01:07:50.596 --> 01:07:51.373
and my wife knows this,
2223
01:07:51.396 --> 01:07:51.994
but I dabbled,
2224
01:07:52.037 --> 01:07:53.396
I dated some younger girls when I was,
2225
01:07:53.436 --> 01:07:53.818
cause it's just,
2226
01:07:53.857 --> 01:07:55.381
that's just kind of a thing you do when you're older.
2227
01:07:55.382 --> 01:07:55.459
Yeah.
2228
01:07:55.460 --> 01:07:55.537
Yeah.
2229
01:07:55.538 --> 01:07:56.162
Yeah.
2230
01:07:56.163 --> 01:07:56.279
It's,
2231
01:07:56.443 --> 01:07:57.764
I equate it to like,
2232
01:07:58.061 --> 01:07:59.240
when you want to sell your car,
2233
01:07:59.482 --> 01:08:01.529
you go to CarMax because you're like,
2234
01:08:01.904 --> 01:08:02.342
wait a minute,
2235
01:08:02.529 --> 01:08:03.529
my car's worth what?
2236
01:08:03.623 --> 01:08:05.014
Like it's worth $35,000.
2237
01:08:05.154 --> 01:08:05.811
I didn't know that.
2238
01:08:06.217 --> 01:08:06.795
So it's like,
2239
01:08:06.796 --> 01:08:07.732
you start these girls,
2240
01:08:07.748 --> 01:08:09.576
like all of a sudden I look a bit younger and they're attractive.
2241
01:08:09.577 --> 01:08:09.967
So you go out.
2242
01:08:10.248 --> 01:08:11.014
So pro tip,
2243
01:08:11.561 --> 01:08:13.561
I would pay for the babysitter.
2244
01:08:14.624 --> 01:08:15.465
Oh,
2245
01:08:15.746 --> 01:08:16.505
that's nice.
2246
01:08:16.506 --> 01:08:17.226
I would get the
2247
01:08:17.627 --> 01:08:18.570
Venmo. That's awesome.
2248
01:08:18.589 --> 01:08:22.371
I'd get the Venmo of the babysitter and say how much.
2249
01:08:22.531 --> 01:08:22.711
Oh,
2250
01:08:22.712 --> 01:08:23.773
it's going to be 50 bucks,
2251
01:08:23.774 --> 01:08:24.172
100 bucks,
2252
01:08:24.195 --> 01:08:24.453
whatever.
2253
01:08:24.797 --> 01:08:25.414
I paid for it.
2254
01:08:25.797 --> 01:08:25.914
Yeah,
2255
01:08:25.976 --> 01:08:26.554
that's awesome.
2256
01:08:27.140 --> 01:08:27.617
Out of respect.
2257
01:08:27.618 --> 01:08:30.593
Every guy should do that.
2258
01:08:30.703 --> 01:08:31.797
The last date I went on,
2259
01:08:31.798 --> 01:08:33.906
he wasn't considerate like that on my children.
2260
01:08:33.922 --> 01:08:34.500
And I was like,
2261
01:08:34.547 --> 01:08:35.859
I can already read your vibes.
2262
01:08:36.078 --> 01:08:36.265
Like,
2263
01:08:36.266 --> 01:08:37.265
you just don't like kids.
2264
01:08:37.422 --> 01:08:37.640
Out.
2265
01:08:38.187 --> 01:08:38.453
Out.
2266
01:08:38.672 --> 01:08:38.812
Yeah.
2267
01:08:39.796 --> 01:08:40.957
I thank you for coming in,
2268
01:08:40.978 --> 01:08:41.358
by the way.
2269
01:08:41.538 --> 01:08:41.679
Yeah,
2270
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:41.999
no problem.
2271
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:42.439
This has been,
2272
01:08:42.458 --> 01:08:42.660
I mean,
2273
01:08:42.699 --> 01:08:43.499
we've gone over an hour.
2274
01:08:43.538 --> 01:08:43.859
It's been,
2275
01:08:45.203 --> 01:08:45.703
it's good.
2276
01:08:45.902 --> 01:08:46.503
And it's just,
2277
01:08:46.984 --> 01:08:57.710
is there anything else you want to get off your chest that you think the media or public perception has gotten wrong about you?
2278
01:08:58.742 --> 01:08:58.992
Yes.
2279
01:08:59.117 --> 01:09:02.226
I just want to say that I'm not the little girl that they perceive anymore.
2280
01:09:02.398 --> 01:09:02.663
And,
2281
01:09:03.195 --> 01:09:03.507
you know,
2282
01:09:03.601 --> 01:09:06.804
I am older and I'm closing a chapter of my life that,
2283
01:09:06.898 --> 01:09:07.117
you know,
2284
01:09:07.118 --> 01:09:08.085
I'm leaving behind.
2285
01:09:08.524 --> 01:09:10.366
And opening up a new chapter in my life.
2286
01:09:10.466 --> 01:09:12.228
And I'm hoping that,
2287
01:09:12.308 --> 01:09:12.607
you know,
2288
01:09:12.908 --> 01:09:15.009
I'm throwing this divorce party in
2289
01:09:15.392 --> 01:09:18.451
New York City on June 12th at Spearmint Rhino.
2290
01:09:18.912 --> 01:09:20.013
So anyone that wants to come,
2291
01:09:20.014 --> 01:09:21.716
they can RSVP on their website.
2292
01:09:22.341 --> 01:09:22.638
But,
2293
01:09:22.779 --> 01:09:23.021
you know,
2294
01:09:23.076 --> 01:09:26.982
I think that is going to be like one of the big milestones for me is this party.
2295
01:09:27.185 --> 01:09:31.591
Because I feel like it's just like getting rid of the old and letting in the new.
2296
01:09:31.951 --> 01:09:33.123
We'll make sure that this drops.
2297
01:09:33.232 --> 01:09:36.779
I'll push it up and I'll make sure that this drops before the 12th.
2298
01:09:37.384 --> 01:09:37.504
Yeah,
2299
01:09:37.604 --> 01:09:38.144
before the 12th,
2300
01:09:38.145 --> 01:09:39.624
which is about three weeks.
2301
01:09:39.845 --> 01:09:39.964
Oh,
2302
01:09:40.064 --> 01:09:40.224
yeah,
2303
01:09:40.345 --> 01:09:40.464
yeah.
2304
01:09:40.605 --> 01:09:41.306
Yeah,
2305
01:09:41.307 --> 01:09:41.607
yeah,
2306
01:09:41.608 --> 01:09:41.763
yeah.
2307
01:09:41.787 --> 01:09:43.165
We'll make sure this drops before the 12th.
2308
01:09:43.384 --> 01:09:43.564
Okay.
2309
01:09:43.565 --> 01:09:45.302
So if people want to come and hang out,
2310
01:09:45.787 --> 01:09:46.849
I think it's a great idea.
2311
01:09:46.865 --> 01:09:48.427
It's the first meet and greet I'm doing.
2312
01:09:48.904 --> 01:09:49.208
Really?
2313
01:09:49.224 --> 01:09:49.349
Yeah,
2314
01:09:49.350 --> 01:09:49.849
in my life.
2315
01:09:50.927 --> 01:09:51.044
So,
2316
01:09:51.787 --> 01:09:51.927
yeah,
2317
01:09:51.990 --> 01:09:53.505
they've always been asking for it,
2318
01:09:53.583 --> 01:09:55.224
and I've never really done it until now.
2319
01:09:55.568 --> 01:09:56.052
I love that.
2320
01:09:56.287 --> 01:09:56.412
Yeah.
2321
01:09:56.771 --> 01:10:01.224
If you ever have the need to get stuff off your chest,
2322
01:10:01.755 --> 01:10:02.990
that seat is always open for you.
2323
01:10:03.302 --> 01:10:03.646
Thank you.
2324
01:10:03.787 --> 01:10:04.037
Okay.
2325
01:10:04.038 --> 01:10:04.583
I appreciate that.
2326
01:10:04.584 --> 01:10:05.318
No strings attached.
2327
01:10:05.572 --> 01:10:05.932
Yeah,
2328
01:10:05.933 --> 01:10:06.553
I appreciate that.
2329
01:10:06.633 --> 01:10:07.034
You're welcome.
2330
01:10:07.074 --> 01:10:09.475
I just think that you deserve to be heard.
2331
01:10:10.178 --> 01:10:11.037
You're a good person.
2332
01:10:11.299 --> 01:10:11.619
Thank you.
2333
01:10:11.858 --> 01:10:12.260
You're welcome.
2334
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:21.026
And I think it's just we get so caught up sometimes in the contrived narrative that other people,
2335
01:10:21.330 --> 01:10:21.510
i.e.,
2336
01:10:21.823 --> 01:10:22.073
you know,
2337
01:10:22.074 --> 01:10:26.776
the producers or social media and all that will form this,
2338
01:10:27.229 --> 01:10:27.479
you know,
2339
01:10:27.619 --> 01:10:30.057
kind of thought process about how you are.
2340
01:10:30.338 --> 01:10:30.776
Exactly.
2341
01:10:30.823 --> 01:10:31.338
It's not you.
2342
01:10:31.713 --> 01:10:31.838
Yeah.
2343
01:10:32.324 --> 01:10:36.049
They don't realize that it's not just you in person and one camera in the room.
2344
01:10:36.107 --> 01:10:40.432
It's like a whole team of 10 people and you and someone else in the room.
2345
01:10:40.494 --> 01:10:41.853
There's a whole team behind it.
2346
01:10:42.111 --> 01:10:42.416
And
2347
01:10:43.455 --> 01:10:47.221
I think a lot of my social media shows more of my personality and where I'm at today.
2348
01:10:47.541 --> 01:10:48.963
So people can keep up on there.
2349
01:10:49.322 --> 01:10:49.588
You'll be,
2350
01:10:49.744 --> 01:10:50.666
and we'll drop clips.
2351
01:10:50.682 --> 01:10:52.978
You'll be tagged on stuff and collabed on all that stuff too.
2352
01:10:53.057 --> 01:10:54.963
So people will get,
2353
01:10:55.525 --> 01:10:56.103
it'll just,
2354
01:10:56.150 --> 01:10:56.713
I just want it.
2355
01:10:56.900 --> 01:10:57.510
Me personally,
2356
01:10:57.588 --> 01:10:58.103
I want it.
2357
01:10:58.150 --> 01:10:58.869
It's the dad in me.
2358
01:10:59.244 --> 01:11:01.010
I want people to see who you really are.
2359
01:11:01.432 --> 01:11:01.588
Yeah.
2360
01:11:02.356 --> 01:11:04.259
not what they think they know when they've seen.
2361
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:05.259
Definitely.
2362
01:11:05.300 --> 01:11:05.860
Does that make sense?
2363
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:06.259
Definitely,
2364
01:11:06.360 --> 01:11:06.720
definitely,
2365
01:11:06.802 --> 01:11:06.962
yeah.
2366
01:11:07.481 --> 01:11:08.821
And I think for a long time,
2367
01:11:08.845 --> 01:11:16.329
I was too scared to go on podcasts and stuff because of the public's perception and then like me tying my name to my ex-husband.
2368
01:11:16.353 --> 01:11:17.173
And now that like,
2369
01:11:17.735 --> 01:11:19.017
I'm not tied to that anymore.
2370
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:19.813
Now I'm just like,
2371
01:11:19.860 --> 01:11:21.438
I feel like I'm free to talk.
2372
01:11:21.923 --> 01:11:24.017
If you ever want help just as friends,
2373
01:11:24.360 --> 01:11:25.517
and I'll say this with the cameras on,
2374
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:27.735
text me ahead of time to say,
2375
01:11:27.798 --> 01:11:27.923
hey,
2376
01:11:28.001 --> 01:11:29.017
I'm gonna do this podcast.
2377
01:11:29.048 --> 01:11:29.485
What do you think?
2378
01:11:30.092 --> 01:11:41.363
I will tell you within a nanosecond whether that person is doing it for clout or if they're doing it because they're actually a good person and they're going to give you room to be you,
2379
01:11:42.324 --> 01:11:42.925
unfiltered,
2380
01:11:42.964 --> 01:11:43.824
unedited you.
2381
01:11:45.089 --> 01:11:47.331
Those are the podcasts you want to go on.
2382
01:11:47.769 --> 01:11:47.956
Yeah.
2383
01:11:48.097 --> 01:11:48.769
And even,
2384
01:11:48.894 --> 01:11:49.206
again,
2385
01:11:50.191 --> 01:11:53.097
there's PR people in the room who I love and adore dearly.
2386
01:11:54.238 --> 01:11:56.691
it's hard for you if you were to go into a
2387
01:11:57.400 --> 01:11:59.603
like ABC news or something like that,
2388
01:11:59.622 --> 01:12:01.105
where it's three to five minutes and that's it.
2389
01:12:01.323 --> 01:12:01.984
It's hard.
2390
01:12:02.245 --> 01:12:02.425
Yeah,
2391
01:12:02.426 --> 01:12:02.585
it is.
2392
01:12:02.586 --> 01:12:03.206
It's hard for you.
2393
01:12:03.265 --> 01:12:03.566
You're like,
2394
01:12:03.585 --> 01:12:04.405
did I say the right thing?
2395
01:12:04.448 --> 01:12:04.687
Right.
2396
01:12:04.726 --> 01:12:07.011
And so for you to go in and like publicize,
2397
01:12:07.292 --> 01:12:07.550
you know,
2398
01:12:07.589 --> 01:12:08.488
the party that's coming up,
2399
01:12:08.511 --> 01:12:08.808
Spiderman,
2400
01:12:08.894 --> 01:12:09.128
Rhino,
2401
01:12:09.175 --> 01:12:09.675
New York City,
2402
01:12:09.769 --> 01:12:10.011
Heyo.
2403
01:12:10.456 --> 01:12:11.550
And so that's awesome.
2404
01:12:11.573 --> 01:12:12.675
Like to go in and talk about that.
2405
01:12:12.714 --> 01:12:14.253
But to get in depth,
2406
01:12:14.675 --> 01:12:17.503
it's so you can't do that in a three to five minute clip.
2407
01:12:17.504 --> 01:12:20.347
And that's why podcasting is just gone.
2408
01:12:20.348 --> 01:12:22.409
And I think that's one reasons why like MTV,
2409
01:12:22.847 --> 01:12:25.347
like they don't know what to do with the show right now because
2410
01:12:25.620 --> 01:12:27.744
They combined a Teen Mom 1 and Teen Mom 2.
2411
01:12:28.605 --> 01:12:30.790
So now instead of longer segments,
2412
01:12:31.451 --> 01:12:35.958
it's like 15 seconds and you're switching girl to girl to girl.
2413
01:12:36.318 --> 01:12:37.865
And it's like who's who?
2414
01:12:38.419 --> 01:12:39.201
What's happening?
2415
01:12:39.443 --> 01:12:40.466
Who am I keeping up with?
2416
01:12:40.529 --> 01:12:41.271
It's confusing.
2417
01:12:41.669 --> 01:12:44.435
You don't get those in-depth personal conversations anymore.
2418
01:12:44.716 --> 01:12:45.560
If there's any���
2419
01:12:46.543 --> 01:12:49.646
Clips or any content that you want put in,
2420
01:12:49.726 --> 01:12:52.410
what my team will do is when they're building out the short,
2421
01:12:52.429 --> 01:12:54.050
they're packaging the short form content,
2422
01:12:54.051 --> 01:12:54.472
the clips.
2423
01:12:55.148 --> 01:12:56.976
We always like to put in other stuff.
2424
01:12:57.531 --> 01:12:57.656
Yeah.
2425
01:12:57.734 --> 01:12:58.398
So if you're like,
2426
01:12:58.437 --> 01:12:58.578
hey,
2427
01:12:58.671 --> 01:12:59.195
put this in.
2428
01:12:59.234 --> 01:13:00.132
We talked about this.
2429
01:13:00.234 --> 01:13:00.820
Put this in.
2430
01:13:01.281 --> 01:13:02.804
And then my guys will do that.
2431
01:13:03.117 --> 01:13:03.335
Okay,
2432
01:13:03.601 --> 01:13:03.742
cool.
2433
01:13:03.773 --> 01:13:05.320
To help give us another dimension of like,
2434
01:13:05.335 --> 01:13:05.460
no,
2435
01:13:05.679 --> 01:13:07.210
she's not full of shit.
2436
01:13:07.242 --> 01:13:08.664
This really happened.
2437
01:13:08.820 --> 01:13:09.007
Yeah,
2438
01:13:09.273 --> 01:13:09.382
yeah.
2439
01:13:09.398 --> 01:13:10.804
This is what really is going on.
2440
01:13:10.867 --> 01:13:12.054
Like her mom with the bottle.
2441
01:13:12.304 --> 01:13:12.460
Yeah.
2442
01:13:12.523 --> 01:13:13.507
That really happened.
2443
01:13:13.523 --> 01:13:14.023
Exactly.
2444
01:13:14.164 --> 01:13:14.414
You know,
2445
01:13:14.429 --> 01:13:15.289
just things like that.
2446
01:13:16.403 --> 01:13:16.624
But yeah,
2447
01:13:16.664 --> 01:13:19.468
you have an open seat for here,
2448
01:13:19.529 --> 01:13:19.909
my dear.
2449
01:13:19.910 --> 01:13:20.271
Thank you.
2450
01:13:20.390 --> 01:13:21.011
Anytime you want.
2451
01:13:21.070 --> 01:13:21.773
Thank you so much.
2452
01:13:21.952 --> 01:13:22.093
Yeah,
2453
01:13:22.195 --> 01:13:22.695
no problem.
2454
01:13:22.734 --> 01:13:23.156
I had fun.







