Blake Wynn: Getting Personal on Life, Business and Success.

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Blake Wynn,

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welcome to Fargo Talks.

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Thanks for having me.

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It's my pleasure to have you here.

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I love people won't see this,

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but

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Blake has an entire cheering section that's come along of his family that it's sometime like we'll have to do a video thing of it and then we'll throw that in.

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I have never,

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and I'll be 56 next month.

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Happy early birthday.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And in my 50,

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almost six years on this planet,

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aside from my now wife,

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I have never been drawn to somebody that I utterly adore quicker than you.

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That's very nice of you to say,

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and the feeling's mutual.

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You know,

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it's interesting.

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I mean,

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you and I,

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one of the first times you spent extended time together was obviously one of the worst mornings of my life.

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I was with you at breakfast when I found out about Charlie Kirk being shot.

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and it's one of those things that you separate from that situation it's I've sort of asked myself why was I with you and you fit into a very small bucket of people that I have in my life where you know you it's so easy to look up to people and I've been very fortunate in my life to get to know a

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lot of my business heroes very well personally people like my uncle Steve people like my grandfather and then also people who have just become major successes or a lot of our clients and things like that.

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But then there's this...

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much more rare bucket.

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Erica Kirk fits into it,

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you fit into it,

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and a couple other people fit into it,

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which is that I look up to you guys as human beings.

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You guys are wonderful people,

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and it's really fun,

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the friendship we've developed in the last couple months.

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So it's fun to be here.

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We live in such a disconnected electronic society now.

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And so when that happened,

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it was awful.

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Giving no disrespect to Charlie and what happened.

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If it was anyone close to you that,

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and you experienced something horrific like that,

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I just wanted to check on you as a friend.

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And you did every day.

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And I appreciate you for doing so.

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Just to say,

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and all I said was checking on my friend.

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And that was sincere because I was thinking about you.

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I know,

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and you still are processing some trauma and some stuff that happened there that you'll carry for the rest of your life.

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and

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we live in such a society now that things are so transparent,

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that you kind of see where people are coming from,

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whether it's shallow or deep.

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And

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I don't have a lot of deep friends.

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I just don't give them,

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I don't give a lot of people access to me that way,

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but you earned it fast.

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And so the best thing I could do was reciprocate.

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And I always will,

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you know,

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to you,

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that 24 seven,

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whatever you need,

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I'm here.

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Likewise.

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Thank you.

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So it's just something that,

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and I still will,

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you know,

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every once in a while,

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just send you a text.

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You don't have to reply back.

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It's just more of just,

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I was thinking about you and how are you doing?

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How is your mental health?

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Because we don't check on our friends and loved ones enough these days.

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Well,

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we check on people in a way that I think it's turned a little bit unfortunate.

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We check on people by watching their Instagram stories,

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seeing what they post on Facebook,

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looking at their Snapchat,

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reading what they came into their mind that they sent into the void when they went on Twitter that morning.

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But we don't check on them by checking on them directly.

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We don't call them.

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We don't go have dinner.

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We don't go have lunch or breakfast like you and I did.

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And I think that that's what's missing.

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I think,

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you know,

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honestly,

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I think nowadays when people spend time on a screen,

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they ought to be listening to things like this,

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where you can maybe learn something.

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You can hear about people's human dynamics.

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Because the alternative is you see something on a screen that their goal is to get lots of likes on or engagements or what have you.

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And it stays very,

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very shallow.

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and the more shallow.

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We get as a society probably the worse off we are,

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but certainly the less happy we are.

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I mean,

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people talk about this rise in mental health issues,

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especially within the youth.

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But there's not a lot of conversation,

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I don't think,

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in how that correlates directly to the rise in social media and the rise of your daily usage and screen time on the phone.

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And so I just think it's so important to balance those two things out.

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It's something that,

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as a dad,

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I am involved in my kids'

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lives like it's no one's business.

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I started on this journey about three years ago,

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working for myself all of a sudden and make less money,

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but I'm okay.

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But I've never been happier and more fulfilled because I'm more connected to my kids now.

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That's,

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and what is more important than being connected to your family?

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Absolutely nothing.

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Absolutely nothing.

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I mean,

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my stepdaughter is about to be 17.

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My daughter is 16.

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My son is nine.

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And I know what's going on in their lives with idiosyncratic detail.

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And I've earned the right for them to come to me.

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Especially my daughter comes to me about stuff she's going through,

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like at school or with relationships and what?

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She's coming to a bald,

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almost 56-year-old man with an oily T-zone.

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Are you kidding me?

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It's hilarious.

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And I sit back.

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We have these conversations.

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And I look at it and I go to myself,

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I never had these conversations with my parents.

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I'm Gen X.

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It was more like suck it up,

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buttercup.

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That's the 80s.

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Like you didn't talk about your feelings.

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Yeah.

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That just didn't happen.

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And so

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I try to do that even paying it forward with my friends to say,

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hey,

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my phone's off.

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Like,

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let's talk.

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How?

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are you?

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How are things going?

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You know,

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what can I do for you?

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How can I serve you better as a friend?

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And I just try to lead by example.

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And you know what,

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if someone ever comes to you and asks you how you're feeling and it makes you feel uncomfortable to even try and answer that question,

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it's probably a good sign that you needed to hear that question and you need to think about those things.

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What do you think about people that don't give themselves the grace to actually share how they're feeling on a sincere level?

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Most people,

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if you say,

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how are you doing?

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They're going to say,

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I'm good.

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I'm well.

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And we're all waging wars and battles inside.

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Yeah.

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Well,

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I think,

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look,

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I think that you shouldn't be,

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I think social media makes you go too far on this in the sense that people share their feelings with complete strangers that they don't know.

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And the problem is when you do that,

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then you don't really care what their feedback is.

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And you get stuck in this loop where you're sharing your feelings with a void.

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The void doesn't really care about your feelings.

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So you feel like you are therefore not being cared for properly.

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And that actually deepens the mental health issues that a lot of people have.

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So I think what is important is finding your core group,

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friends like you and I are.

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And it doesn't have to be a lot of people.

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It could be your parents,

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it could be your sibling,

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it could be your children in your case even.

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It could be a couple of close friends,

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business partners,

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whatever it is.

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I think it's better to have a couple of really close people to you than to have lots of acquaintances or friends.

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because I think the other thing that you have to think about,

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I mean,

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it's one of the all-time...

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quotes of networking and character building,

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if you will,

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is you are oftentimes the sum of the five people closest to you.

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So what happens if you don't have five people close to you?

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Or what happens if those five people close to you don't see you the same way?

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again,

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all these things start to lead to issues,

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I think.

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And so for me,

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I'm always most comfortable sharing how I feel with those people,

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but also exclusively those people.

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I don't...

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feel the need to share things into the void of social media or otherwise.

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Because again,

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I know not to expect anything back.

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That's the challenge is that people expect something back.

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They expect validation.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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And where,

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I mean,

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Rogan said over 50%

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of the stuff you see in comments are bots.

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Yeah.

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So it's not even real people.

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It's

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Russian, North Korean,

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Chinese fabricated bots that are intended to tear apart the social fabric of the United States.

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of the society that we have.

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And for a lot of cases,

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it's working because it preys upon the most uneducated,

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ill-informed,

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saddest,

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most depressed sector of society and doubles down on their feelings.

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Yeah.

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Well,

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it's a disadvantage of social media,

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but there's plenty of advantages too.

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You've made a career using social media and so have I,

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so I'm not trying to bash it,

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but you have to understand it for what it is.

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It is a tool to connect with people.

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It is a great networking tool.

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It is a great tool to put out content like you do where people can watch it and they can learn something.

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It's not the best tool to use to get one-to-one advice because you might be getting it from a North Korean bot.

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You might be getting it from a Russian bot.

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And again,

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it's one of those things where one of the reasons you want to have those people close to you is because you want to know that they have your best interests at heart.

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Does the person who's giving you random feedback on social media who you haven't met,

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who's maybe even cyberbullying you,

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you have to ask yourself,

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what kind of intentions do they have for you in their heart?

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Because if they're not good intentions,

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what do you care what they have to say anyways?

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You have enough people and

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God forbid,

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maybe even yourself doesn't know how to think about yourself in a way where you have your best intentions at the forefront of your mind.

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So you certainly don't need the noise of other people giving you that.

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And no one's perfect.

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There's stuff I've said on here,

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I wish I could take back.

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We put our foot in our mouths often.

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I'm a Gen X ADHD guy.

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And I say what I say and I blurt stuff out sometimes.

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And sometimes I go,

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oh,

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I shouldn't have said that.

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I own what I do and what I say.

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And I'm not going to let anybody,

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a real person or bot,

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affect my narrative moving forward.

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Only I can let people hurt my feelings.

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And there's not a lot of people I give access to that level.

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To do that to me,

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I preach that to my kids.

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My daughter has a best friend who's a guy.

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at the school she goes to.

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And I said this to her a couple of days ago,

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taking her back to her mom's house.

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And I said,

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hey,

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I want to take you and Hank out to lunch sometime.

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What's his favorite kind of food?

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Indian.

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I go,

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Indian food for a high school kid?

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God bless.

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Okay,

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let's do it.

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And she said,

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how come?

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And my best friend,

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his name is Sean Kutry.

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We've been friends for 40 years.

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He is my best friend.

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He's my brother.

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And

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I said,

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because you've talked about Hank a lot and he could be your Sean Coutry.

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And she went,

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oh,

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because she knows Sean.

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And her mind just went like,

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and I'm like,

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honey,

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I just want to meet him because I know you're not dating him,

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but I love you have a relationship with somebody that you can talk to and you talk to Hank a lot about stuff.

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And so I just want to get to know him.

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And I want to take you guys out to dinner sometime or lunch.

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She loved that.

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And so it's like,

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I've talked to you about.

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I can't wait for you to get married and have kids because there's so many people on this planet that are parents and should not be.

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And then there's people that should be.

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You should be breeding,

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and your family's here,

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but sorry,

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but you should be breeding ASAP as often as possible because we need more mini you in this world.

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Well,

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part of a parent,

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I think,

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creating a mini you is having the time to invest in the child to be that way.

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And part of it also is the parent knowing themselves well enough.

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to be able to then translate that to their kids.

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You know,

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my mom had me when she was in her mid thirties and my dad is 11 years older.

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Uh,

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granted I'm not as close with him,

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but nonetheless,

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I mean,

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my parents had a lot of time to mature before I came around.

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And so I think the kind of person I exist as today,

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I don't,

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you know,

331
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I never put it this way.

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I never knew my mom at 24,

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not to say that she was irresponsible.

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She went to medical school,

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so she was probably just fine.

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She's right off camera.

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I'm sure she was a perfect person that had a perfect life.

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She was.

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She's nodding yes.

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But seriously,

341
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in all fairness,

342
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I mean,

343
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I put it this way.

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I thought I had everything A to Z figured out when I was 22.

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And in relation to other

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22-year-olds, I think that that was probably true.

347
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But now when I look back on my life just in the last three years,

348
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I don't feel like the same human being at all.

349
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And so

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I want to know exactly who I am before I have a child.

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And I do want to have more than one.

352
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So you'll get the wish,

353
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but it'll just be a little later.

354
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I can't wait.

355
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Talk to me about that arc of,

356
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you know,

357
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22,

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23 to where you are now.

359
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So...

360
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What type of things have humbled you?

361
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What type of things have...

362
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Everyone loves a comeback story.

363
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Everyone loves Rocky.

364
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That's why they made 17 Rockies.

365
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Because he always would come back from stuff.

366
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What's your comeback story?

367
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I think I would sound like Gavin Newsom on a podcast if I was trying to create a comeback story because I don't think I've had to come back from very much.

368
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I think I've been really well-grounded my entire life.

369
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I think...

370
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Look,

371
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I started my first business when I was 11 years old.

372
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I was paying taxes since I was in middle school or freshman in high school.

373
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I started hiring people when I was a freshman in high school.

374
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And it's not to say that I haven't had business challenges,

375
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but to call them failures or to say that these were things that deeply rattled me and stuff,

376
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I would be trying to create a story that doesn't exist for you.

377
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I've always layered one thing on top of the other.

378
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When I was 11,

379
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I walked into an Adidas outlet with 40 bucks,

380
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bought two pairs of $20 shoes overnight,

381
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sold them both on eBay for $108 a piece.

382
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And what you see today of my business celebrity poker tour,

383
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our dabblings in politics,

384
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what we do to market other companies,

385
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all of that is quite literally those two pairs of shoes turned over and reimagined for 14 or 15 years now of business.

386
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But,

387
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you know,

388
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it's less a comeback story.

389
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And I think the part of my story that has really changed a lot from 22 to 25 is how I view business.

390
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you know you know

391
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When you're that age and you're supporting yourself and making sure that you can support your employees and things like that,

392
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you're really just hyper-focused on your business,

393
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your end product.

394
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What are you selling people?

395
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How are you selling it to them?

396
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How do you communicate it?

397
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What's the branding?

398
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You think about the core business principles,

399
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if you will,

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that you learn in school or that you learn through experience.

401
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Now,

402
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what I find myself thinking a lot more about,

403
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one of the reasons that...

404
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Charlie's death affected me the way that it did.

405
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One of the reasons why since January 1st,

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despite having a pretty large staff,

407
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I haven't fired anybody is now it's become a lot more about who I'm working with.

408
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It's less

409
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I work on creating the largest show that poker's ever seen and more about doing business with one of my best friends and two of my brothers and things like that.

410
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And so that's been a big transition for me.

411
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because you get to a point where,

412
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look,

413
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I mean,

414
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September will be eight years of this business,

415
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which like I said,

416
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really is just a transition of the business that existed in sneakers for seven years prior to that or six years prior.

417
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And so it's just a difference of perspective.

418
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I don't wake up every morning thinking about CPT.

419
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I kind of wake up every morning now thinking about Brock.

420
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And those subtleties I think have,

421
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in essence,

422
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probably resulted in a lot of the growth of the business because instead of thinking just about business,

423
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which...

424
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You're in your own echo chamber,

425
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especially when you're the guy who's coming up with the vision for it and your CEO,

426
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and there's no one that you can really look at in your organization and say,

427
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tell me what I need to be thinking about,

428
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right?

429
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But instead,

430
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if I'm looking at everybody in my organization and I'm thinking about what can I think about for you,

431
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and by the way,

432
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I'm not even trying to say this to sound selfless.

433
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It actually turns into a self-fulfilling thing because I'm thinking to myself,

434
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well,

435
00:15:11.024 --> 00:15:11.726
what does Brock need?

436
00:15:11.727 --> 00:15:12.508
What does Brock want?

437
00:15:12.648 --> 00:15:16.601
And those kinds of things have oftentimes helped me come up with the ideas that have

438
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changed our business a lot over the last three years.

439
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It's running a business on feel.

440
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It's running a business on reverse engineering.

441
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Your,

442
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you know,

443
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your,

444
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your team,

445
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your staff,

446
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your employees to figure out how can I best serve them?

447
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Yeah.

448
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What's going to make them happy.

449
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And I think when you do that over and over and over,

450
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like refiners fire,

451
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man,

452
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you just keep doing it.

453
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The end result is a thing of beauty.

454
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Yeah.

455
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You know,

456
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like look at,

457
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look at CPT.

458
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Like it's.

459
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You might not have kids yet,

460
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but that's your baby.

461
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Yeah.

462
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Well,

463
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you know what the thing about CPT is?

464
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Is to me,

465
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it's one of the purest forms of humanity.

466
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And I know that sounds so intense for a poker business,

467
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but it's not a poker business.

468
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What it is,

469
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is it's a collection of a couple hundred people that get together 10 times a year who maybe didn't know each other before that.

470
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And everybody comes in with a smile.

471
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Everybody's excited to meet one another.

472
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Nobody even really knows how to play poker.

473
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And that's...

474
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I would say it's secondary,

475
00:16:12.548 --> 00:16:13.528
but it's not secondary.

476
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Secondary is the bar and the food,

477
00:16:15.729 --> 00:16:15.948
right?

478
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Tertiary is what are you going to get gifted?

479
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I mean,

480
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the poker is so far down the list,

481
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it doesn't exist.

482
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It's just an opportunity to have fun,

483
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to meet people.

484
00:16:25.952 --> 00:16:28.671
And one thing you'll notice when you go inside the celebrity poker tour,

485
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nobody has their phone out.

486
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We take care of that for you.

487
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We got 200 cameras.

488
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We got 65 people on staff that day that would cater to any need you can possibly come up with.

489
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And so you're able to be fully present for a few hours,

490
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which as we talked about in kind of the first part of this conversation is a virtue that doesn't exist enough anymore.

491
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And so that to me is the essence of CPT.

492
00:16:50.613 --> 00:16:53.652
It's why people come back despite that between one event to the next,

493
00:16:54.214 --> 00:16:55.394
they don't go home and learn poker.

494
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They're not motivated to win next time.

495
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They're motivated to come back next time to meet their next friend.

496
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And I've got to say,

497
00:17:01.160 --> 00:17:02.269
how do I know this is true?

498
00:17:02.270 --> 00:17:03.566
And I'm not just blowing smoke,

499
00:17:03.628 --> 00:17:03.847
right?

500
00:17:03.925 --> 00:17:04.050
Well,

501
00:17:04.051 --> 00:17:05.082
let me give you some examples.

502
00:17:05.128 --> 00:17:06.722
We've been around now 17 months.

503
00:17:07.735 --> 00:17:12.439
There are three couples of celebrities that have been created where they were sitting next to their table.

504
00:17:12.478 --> 00:17:13.142
Now they're dating.

505
00:17:13.143 --> 00:17:13.740
That's great.

506
00:17:13.923 --> 00:17:15.564
One of them is already engaged now.

507
00:17:16.462 --> 00:17:19.790
We have the amount of times that you've seen.

508
00:17:19.806 --> 00:17:26.720
There's a TV show that just came out on Netflix that the Sidemen put together with a cast of eight influencers that were competing to win a million dollars.

509
00:17:27.126 --> 00:17:30.158
They initially reached out to Zach Justice to put this group together,

510
00:17:30.204 --> 00:17:30.923
who's a dear friend.

511
00:17:30.924 --> 00:17:34.954
And he's one of three people who's played in every single Celebrity Poker Tour event.

512
00:17:35.299 --> 00:17:35.719
And they said,

513
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can you help us cast this?

514
00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:38.623
So who does he cast?

515
00:17:38.822 --> 00:17:39.463
Dwight Howard.

516
00:17:39.662 --> 00:17:41.646
How do you meet Dwight Howard at Celebrity Poker Tour?

517
00:17:42.787 --> 00:17:43.568
He cast Sketch.

518
00:17:43.763 --> 00:17:44.607
How does he meet Sketch,

519
00:17:44.631 --> 00:17:45.412
Celebrity Poker Tour?

520
00:17:45.631 --> 00:17:48.248
Six of the eight people that he casted are people that he told me,

521
00:17:48.295 --> 00:17:48.935
because I asked him,

522
00:17:48.936 --> 00:17:49.091
I said,

523
00:17:49.092 --> 00:17:50.091
what a great cast you got.

524
00:17:50.131 --> 00:17:50.951
This looks like CPT.

525
00:17:51.091 --> 00:17:51.341
Granted,

526
00:17:51.342 --> 00:17:52.295
it's obviously not competitive.

527
00:17:52.701 --> 00:17:52.982
He says,

528
00:17:53.170 --> 00:17:54.279
we couldn't have done it without you.

529
00:17:54.654 --> 00:17:55.826
So I'm watching this Netflix show,

530
00:17:55.827 --> 00:17:57.748
and I'm thinking the world may not look at it this way.

531
00:17:57.779 --> 00:18:00.670
And it doesn't do me anything good for my ego to look at it this way.

532
00:18:01.060 --> 00:18:04.232
But what a beautiful just thing that could have happened in the world.

533
00:18:04.551 --> 00:18:04.891
to say,

534
00:18:04.951 --> 00:18:08.655
now here's a show that people are going to be entertained by for lots of hours.

535
00:18:09.694 --> 00:18:13.397
And it probably wouldn't have existed if not for Celebrity Poker Tour.

536
00:18:14.124 --> 00:18:16.983
And so I think that is the business that we're in now.

537
00:18:17.327 --> 00:18:20.803
It's way more about the people and way less about the product than it's ever been for me before.

538
00:18:22.991 --> 00:18:25.272
You were nice enough to invite Brandy Knight at the last one.

539
00:18:25.397 --> 00:18:27.569
And we went and it was a date night for us,

540
00:18:27.647 --> 00:18:28.647
which we'll take all the time.

541
00:18:28.788 --> 00:18:29.272
It was great.

542
00:18:29.288 --> 00:18:29.819
We loved it.

543
00:18:30.022 --> 00:18:32.882
And the biggest takeaway I had from it,

544
00:18:32.913 --> 00:18:34.163
because I watch people.

545
00:18:34.571 --> 00:18:36.272
It's all I do is checking everybody out.

546
00:18:37.233 --> 00:18:46.040
There was such an eclectic group of people there from across like beliefs and ages and values and morals and everything.

547
00:18:46.423 --> 00:18:47.305
And everyone's getting along.

548
00:18:48.204 --> 00:18:48.844
There was no drama.

549
00:18:50.024 --> 00:18:50.266
You know,

550
00:18:50.868 --> 00:18:52.930
there was nothing there that was negative.

551
00:18:52.931 --> 00:18:54.852
Like I had no negative takeaways from it whatsoever.

552
00:18:55.415 --> 00:18:58.758
And it wasn't like a polarizing thing where everybody there is this way.

553
00:18:58.821 --> 00:18:59.649
Everyone here is that way.

554
00:18:59.993 --> 00:19:00.118
No,

555
00:19:00.930 --> 00:19:01.180
you know,

556
00:19:01.196 --> 00:19:01.321
I...

557
00:19:02.271 --> 00:19:02.571
Again,

558
00:19:03.052 --> 00:19:05.093
you know more of the background of everyone that was there,

559
00:19:05.173 --> 00:19:08.558
but we're so divided these days.

560
00:19:09.558 --> 00:19:10.558
And you go to that event,

561
00:19:10.902 --> 00:19:12.082
that's not a dividing,

562
00:19:12.285 --> 00:19:14.707
polarizing event at all.

563
00:19:15.527 --> 00:19:15.746
Because

564
00:19:16.949 --> 00:19:19.785
I don't think we're as divided as you realize or as you may feel.

565
00:19:20.363 --> 00:19:23.285
I think that there's an element of politics that divide us,

566
00:19:23.379 --> 00:19:24.691
Republican versus Democrat.

567
00:19:25.347 --> 00:19:28.957
And then there's elements of lots of other things that maybe aren't so toxic,

568
00:19:29.004 --> 00:19:29.472
if you will,

569
00:19:29.644 --> 00:19:30.925
like just men and women.

570
00:19:31.887 --> 00:19:32.588
whether it's your race,

571
00:19:32.628 --> 00:19:34.910
whether it's what you do for work or all of those kinds of things.

572
00:19:35.611 --> 00:19:37.451
But you'll notice at the Celebrity Poker Tour,

573
00:19:37.452 --> 00:19:37.654
I mean,

574
00:19:37.655 --> 00:19:39.275
we've quite literally had Sam Brown,

575
00:19:39.455 --> 00:19:39.834
who was

576
00:19:40.271 --> 00:19:43.678
45,000 votes away from being a senator in the United States as a Republican,

577
00:19:44.060 --> 00:19:48.818
sitting next to a guy who literally has a Democratic talk show on YouTube and Ethan Klein.

578
00:19:49.287 --> 00:19:49.912
And you ask yourself,

579
00:19:49.990 --> 00:19:50.928
how does that exist?

580
00:19:51.303 --> 00:19:53.787
Because the one thing Celebrity Poker does is we get good people.

581
00:19:54.146 --> 00:19:55.553
These are all good human beings.

582
00:19:55.834 --> 00:19:56.912
So they don't vote the same way.

583
00:19:56.928 --> 00:19:57.506
Who gives a shit,

584
00:19:57.709 --> 00:19:57.928
right?

585
00:19:59.412 --> 00:20:01.178
What we don't have is any of the people that...

586
00:20:01.271 --> 00:20:03.793
creates this level of toxicity that I think you're referring to,

587
00:20:04.075 --> 00:20:06.735
which I don't think is Democrat versus Republican or any of those kinds of things.

588
00:20:06.817 --> 00:20:08.379
I truly believe it's good versus evil,

589
00:20:09.118 --> 00:20:11.137
and you have to keep evil people out.

590
00:20:11.550 --> 00:20:13.292
And so that's what we do a really good job of.

591
00:20:13.293 --> 00:20:14.032
And I don't think we look,

592
00:20:14.073 --> 00:20:16.296
we've never had a true jerk come,

593
00:20:16.355 --> 00:20:18.417
which is why when you came to me at the event and you said,

594
00:20:18.418 --> 00:20:20.058
is there anyone here that I should have in my podcast?

595
00:20:20.059 --> 00:20:20.620
I said,

596
00:20:20.621 --> 00:20:20.737
well,

597
00:20:20.738 --> 00:20:21.237
look around the room.

598
00:20:21.238 --> 00:20:22.237
Is there anyone you recognize?

599
00:20:23.698 --> 00:20:24.980
You just tell me who's a good person,

600
00:20:25.066 --> 00:20:25.847
who lives in Vegas,

601
00:20:25.925 --> 00:20:26.769
who can we get on the show?

602
00:20:26.886 --> 00:20:27.581
We walked around here,

603
00:20:27.582 --> 00:20:28.222
see a few people,

604
00:20:28.269 --> 00:20:29.425
interrupted them while they were playing poker.

605
00:20:29.441 --> 00:20:29.894
They don't care.

606
00:20:29.895 --> 00:20:30.675
They're happy to meet you.

607
00:20:30.706 --> 00:20:32.456
These are all good human beings.

608
00:20:32.644 --> 00:20:37.019
And you're very lucky if you can not only create an environment.

609
00:20:37.146 --> 00:20:38.307
where there's lots of good human beings,

610
00:20:38.308 --> 00:20:40.469
but I have to selfishly say we make a few dollars doing it.

611
00:20:40.488 --> 00:20:43.172
And so it's a unique thing to be able to wake up and do every day.

612
00:20:43.313 --> 00:20:43.914
How cool is that,

613
00:20:44.094 --> 00:20:44.531
by the way?

614
00:20:44.613 --> 00:20:47.078
That it's at your age,

615
00:20:47.336 --> 00:20:48.500
you're really doing what you love.

616
00:20:49.055 --> 00:20:49.336
Yeah.

617
00:20:49.337 --> 00:20:49.539
Right?

618
00:20:49.961 --> 00:20:50.399
Absolutely.

619
00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:51.602
How many people can say that?

620
00:20:52.102 --> 00:20:52.383
I mean,

621
00:20:53.649 --> 00:20:54.820
I can't stand when people,

622
00:20:54.883 --> 00:20:55.336
especially in their

623
00:20:55.727 --> 00:20:56.805
20s, will say the grind,

624
00:20:56.883 --> 00:20:57.633
I'm grinding.

625
00:20:58.180 --> 00:20:59.289
I don't want to grind anything.

626
00:20:59.305 --> 00:21:01.477
I'll break a hip at my age if I grind something.

627
00:21:01.883 --> 00:21:02.977
Are you freaking kidding me?

628
00:21:02.978 --> 00:21:04.258
I don't grind anything.

629
00:21:05.055 --> 00:21:05.711
I want to work.

630
00:21:06.182 --> 00:21:06.463
I mean,

631
00:21:06.503 --> 00:21:07.664
especially when I was younger,

632
00:21:07.984 --> 00:21:08.926
you work with intent.

633
00:21:09.064 --> 00:21:10.267
You are going after stuff.

634
00:21:10.268 --> 00:21:11.088
You are focused.

635
00:21:11.549 --> 00:21:13.470
But to make it to the point where like,

636
00:21:13.908 --> 00:21:16.009
I'm going to work to exhaustion every day.

637
00:21:16.174 --> 00:21:17.955
Who wants to do that?

638
00:21:18.814 --> 00:21:21.259
That's nothing that's going to fulfill you.

639
00:21:23.025 --> 00:21:23.400
And again,

640
00:21:23.416 --> 00:21:24.134
in 100 years,

641
00:21:24.166 --> 00:21:25.197
we're all ashes and dust.

642
00:21:26.338 --> 00:21:30.759
It's about what is the legacy you leave on this planet to your family,

643
00:21:30.806 --> 00:21:32.884
to your loved ones once you leave?

644
00:21:32.963 --> 00:21:34.306
What are people saying about you?

645
00:21:35.056 --> 00:21:35.338
And...

646
00:21:36.210 --> 00:21:38.211
I love just with CPT,

647
00:21:38.393 --> 00:21:41.735
the atmosphere that is created with what you're doing.

648
00:21:42.254 --> 00:21:44.942
And it's some of the most famous people around are coming to this thing.

649
00:21:45.356 --> 00:21:46.301
And the cool part,

650
00:21:46.302 --> 00:21:48.863
you said it is poker isn't even the main focus.

651
00:21:49.543 --> 00:21:49.660
No,

652
00:21:49.785 --> 00:21:50.145
not at all.

653
00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:50.442
Right?

654
00:21:50.762 --> 00:21:51.621
Yeah.

655
00:21:51.684 --> 00:21:52.082
And I think,

656
00:21:52.168 --> 00:21:52.309
look,

657
00:21:52.434 --> 00:21:52.668
I mean,

658
00:21:52.684 --> 00:21:53.668
I remember when we started this,

659
00:21:53.715 --> 00:21:54.512
I had everybody,

660
00:21:54.527 --> 00:21:54.746
you know,

661
00:21:54.965 --> 00:21:57.887
all of a sudden I got to become well acquainted with everybody in the poker industry.

662
00:21:57.934 --> 00:21:58.699
It's a small industry.

663
00:21:58.731 --> 00:21:58.856
It's,

664
00:21:59.293 --> 00:21:59.527
you know,

665
00:21:59.793 --> 00:22:00.168
in fact,

666
00:22:00.215 --> 00:22:02.559
I think one of the things that's played well for me.

667
00:22:02.726 --> 00:22:05.469
personally on an experience perspective is it's very similar to sneakers.

668
00:22:05.530 --> 00:22:06.309
It's not that big.

669
00:22:06.610 --> 00:22:08.073
And once you make a little bit of noise in it,

670
00:22:08.373 --> 00:22:09.112
you meet everybody,

671
00:22:09.311 --> 00:22:11.334
you understand the lay of the land and who the players are,

672
00:22:11.335 --> 00:22:12.897
and you figure out what you can do from there.

673
00:22:13.373 --> 00:22:15.616
But I had everybody from a very good place,

674
00:22:15.655 --> 00:22:16.022
by the way,

675
00:22:16.038 --> 00:22:17.202
so I'm not trying to knock anybody,

676
00:22:17.241 --> 00:22:20.108
but I had conversations with the Phil Hellmuths of the world,

677
00:22:20.123 --> 00:22:21.327
the Molly Blooms of the world,

678
00:22:21.498 --> 00:22:23.170
all these great people who are all friends,

679
00:22:23.202 --> 00:22:23.608
by the way.

680
00:22:24.092 --> 00:22:27.155
And I remember them not from the perspective of trying to belittle me,

681
00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:30.170
but I remember them explaining to me all of the various...

682
00:22:31.018 --> 00:22:39.868
pushing rope uphill sort of challenges I was going to have and how many celebrity poker shows had existed before and why they fundamentally broke down after a certain period of time,

683
00:22:39.883 --> 00:22:41.571
whether it was one season or two seasons,

684
00:22:41.610 --> 00:22:43.266
typically that was sort of the end of it.

685
00:22:44.469 --> 00:22:47.016
And without necessarily getting into debate with them,

686
00:22:47.047 --> 00:22:48.750
because I was in those situations,

687
00:22:48.860 --> 00:22:49.735
I wanted to be the listener.

688
00:22:49.797 --> 00:22:50.563
I was only

689
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:51.594
60 days,

690
00:22:51.657 --> 00:22:52.141
90 days,

691
00:22:52.142 --> 00:22:53.688
180 days into the poker business.

692
00:22:53.704 --> 00:22:53.813
So,

693
00:22:54.313 --> 00:22:54.563
all right,

694
00:22:54.564 --> 00:22:54.985
Molly Bloom,

695
00:22:54.986 --> 00:22:55.875
what do you know about poker?

696
00:22:55.876 --> 00:22:56.547
Go ahead and tell me,

697
00:22:56.625 --> 00:22:56.860
right?

698
00:22:56.985 --> 00:22:58.891
But the problem was,

699
00:22:58.907 --> 00:23:00.360
is they were all explaining to me

700
00:23:00.758 --> 00:23:01.519
the poker business.

701
00:23:02.800 --> 00:23:03.501
And in my head,

702
00:23:03.520 --> 00:23:04.042
I'm thinking to myself,

703
00:23:04.043 --> 00:23:05.721
but I'm not really in the poker business.

704
00:23:05.722 --> 00:23:09.026
So none of these things are really going to ultimately ever end up applying anyways.

705
00:23:09.667 --> 00:23:11.245
I'm sort of in the media business,

706
00:23:11.292 --> 00:23:13.253
but really I'm in the hospitality business.

707
00:23:13.753 --> 00:23:18.042
And I've gotten hospitality advice from the greatest hospitality entrepreneur of all time,

708
00:23:18.057 --> 00:23:18.417
probably,

709
00:23:18.418 --> 00:23:19.042
in Steve Wynn.

710
00:23:19.542 --> 00:23:19.651
So

711
00:23:21.557 --> 00:23:22.714
I listen to the poker advice,

712
00:23:22.979 --> 00:23:25.276
but I really listen to Steve's hospitality advice.

713
00:23:25.339 --> 00:23:26.339
And so when you go to CPT,

714
00:23:26.729 --> 00:23:30.010
you are walking into a hospitality business that's been created the same way.

715
00:23:30.674 --> 00:23:31.315
That the Wynn,

716
00:23:31.335 --> 00:23:31.875
the Mirage,

717
00:23:31.876 --> 00:23:32.296
the Bellagio,

718
00:23:32.316 --> 00:23:35.558
and all the other greatest hotels in the history of the world were created.

719
00:23:36.218 --> 00:23:39.843
And it's why we've become the biggest show that poker has ever seen.

720
00:23:40.546 --> 00:23:47.195
What are some of the biggest bits of advice that Steve has given you that you've applied?

721
00:23:48.866 --> 00:23:49.070
Well,

722
00:23:49.273 --> 00:23:53.210
one of my favorite stories is one of the first times I ever went to him and wanted to talk to him.

723
00:23:53.214 --> 00:23:54.095
to him about money.

724
00:23:54.215 --> 00:23:56.196
It was not to ask him or anything like that.

725
00:23:56.318 --> 00:23:56.698
It was,

726
00:23:56.878 --> 00:24:00.683
I had a dear friend who I could name because I actually was on the phone with him while I was driving here,

727
00:24:00.722 --> 00:24:01.120
incidentally.

728
00:24:01.121 --> 00:24:02.144
His name is Shane Victorino.

729
00:24:02.222 --> 00:24:03.761
He was a great baseball player for

730
00:24:04.183 --> 00:24:05.167
13 or 14 years,

731
00:24:05.168 --> 00:24:05.566
the MLB.

732
00:24:06.644 --> 00:24:10.323
And when I was 20 or 21,

733
00:24:10.464 --> 00:24:13.433
he offered me half a million bucks to become a partner in the business.

734
00:24:14.198 --> 00:24:16.917
And he was offering me more than fair price.

735
00:24:17.355 --> 00:24:18.198
It was a real check,

736
00:24:18.355 --> 00:24:18.964
the whole thing.

737
00:24:19.808 --> 00:24:20.058
I said,

738
00:24:20.073 --> 00:24:20.245
well,

739
00:24:20.698 --> 00:24:21.917
I've never had a business partner before.

740
00:24:22.178 --> 00:24:23.419
I'm going to go see what Steve thinks.

741
00:24:23.679 --> 00:24:24.579
And I go to Steve and he's,

742
00:24:24.580 --> 00:24:24.720
well,

743
00:24:24.721 --> 00:24:25.441
how would you do this?

744
00:24:25.540 --> 00:24:25.962
And I'm like,

745
00:24:25.982 --> 00:24:26.224
well,

746
00:24:26.302 --> 00:24:27.204
Shane Victorino this.

747
00:24:27.322 --> 00:24:27.443
Well,

748
00:24:27.444 --> 00:24:28.505
you can hire him as a consultant.

749
00:24:28.506 --> 00:24:29.126
You don't need to do that.

750
00:24:29.626 --> 00:24:29.845
Well,

751
00:24:29.927 --> 00:24:31.529
but I've known him since I was a little kid,

752
00:24:31.530 --> 00:24:32.232
so I trust him.

753
00:24:32.591 --> 00:24:32.708
Well,

754
00:24:32.709 --> 00:24:33.568
you trust lots of people.

755
00:24:33.569 --> 00:24:34.208
You trust your mom.

756
00:24:34.247 --> 00:24:35.169
She's not your business partner.

757
00:24:35.911 --> 00:24:37.411
So he's sort of grilling me on all of it.

758
00:24:37.474 --> 00:24:38.169
And finally,

759
00:24:38.732 --> 00:24:41.560
the final sort of thing I'm throwing back at him is I say,

760
00:24:41.638 --> 00:24:41.841
well,

761
00:24:41.857 --> 00:24:42.232
you know what?

762
00:24:42.233 --> 00:24:42.904
If he invests,

763
00:24:42.919 --> 00:24:44.200
I get this half a million bucks.

764
00:24:44.747 --> 00:24:46.138
Because rather he was going to invest.

765
00:24:46.200 --> 00:24:47.497
He was actually going to buy it from me.

766
00:24:47.529 --> 00:24:49.919
So that money would have gone to me and I just would have had a partner.

767
00:24:49.950 --> 00:24:51.419
The business didn't need the capital.

768
00:24:52.378 --> 00:24:53.059
And I said,

769
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:53.259
well,

770
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:58.702
then I won't necessarily have all my eggs in one basket because I'll have an extra half a million bucks that I'll be able to invest or do whatever with.

771
00:25:00.843 --> 00:25:01.804
Just pauses like this.

772
00:25:02.210 --> 00:25:02.366
Well,

773
00:25:03.991 --> 00:25:05.413
that's the worst point you've made of all.

774
00:25:06.312 --> 00:25:06.468
What?

775
00:25:07.296 --> 00:25:07.570
You said.

776
00:25:08.850 --> 00:25:14.452
You know how many times I invested in something other than Wynn in my life before I sold out a Wynn in 2018?

777
00:25:14.453 --> 00:25:14.592
I said,

778
00:25:14.631 --> 00:25:14.791
what?

779
00:25:14.792 --> 00:25:14.971
He said,

780
00:25:15.053 --> 00:25:15.252
well,

781
00:25:15.573 --> 00:25:16.092
as a favor,

782
00:25:16.131 --> 00:25:16.975
maybe a couple times.

783
00:25:17.053 --> 00:25:18.569
But in terms of a serious investment,

784
00:25:19.092 --> 00:25:19.350
never.

785
00:25:20.811 --> 00:25:21.069
I said,

786
00:25:21.116 --> 00:25:21.311
well,

787
00:25:21.850 --> 00:25:22.334
fair enough.

788
00:25:22.616 --> 00:25:25.756
But you were running the most successful hotel company of all time.

789
00:25:25.757 --> 00:25:29.178
You weren't exactly running a marketing agency with your buddy from preschool.

790
00:25:30.553 --> 00:25:31.100
And he says to me,

791
00:25:31.101 --> 00:25:31.334
he says,

792
00:25:31.397 --> 00:25:31.600
well,

793
00:25:31.850 --> 00:25:32.100
you know,

794
00:25:32.101 --> 00:25:33.178
there's the great Mark Twain quote.

795
00:25:33.569 --> 00:25:35.178
You can have all your eggs in one basket.

796
00:25:35.194 --> 00:25:36.944
You just have to watch the damn basket.

797
00:25:37.294 --> 00:25:40.316
And that was one of those moments that I didn't end up taking Shane's money.

798
00:25:41.054 --> 00:25:43.357
And ever since then,

799
00:25:43.376 --> 00:25:46.212
I guess I've just had a different level of focus on watching the basket.

800
00:25:46.236 --> 00:25:48.478
I've never been someone who's lacked focus,

801
00:25:48.618 --> 00:25:51.181
but it was a different perspective shift on,

802
00:25:51.182 --> 00:25:51.595
you know what,

803
00:25:51.978 --> 00:25:52.415
he's right.

804
00:25:52.556 --> 00:25:53.962
I can have all my eggs in one basket.

805
00:25:53.978 --> 00:25:54.603
And quite frankly,

806
00:25:55.572 --> 00:25:57.775
whether you're investing in stocks or,

807
00:25:58.040 --> 00:25:58.275
you know,

808
00:25:58.322 --> 00:25:58.634
and again,

809
00:25:59.197 --> 00:26:01.993
I do suggest everybody invest in stocks.

810
00:26:01.994 --> 00:26:03.259
If you can afford it one day,

811
00:26:03.322 --> 00:26:04.040
you buy real estate,

812
00:26:04.103 --> 00:26:04.884
all those kinds of things.

813
00:26:04.915 --> 00:26:05.134
Sure,

814
00:26:05.181 --> 00:26:06.025
go ahead and do that.

815
00:26:06.222 --> 00:26:12.767
But if you can have full control of what's going to happen to you in a world where the world is trying to control you,

816
00:26:13.068 --> 00:26:17.490
you are putting yourself at an inherent advantage compared to anybody else who doesn't do that.

817
00:26:18.451 --> 00:26:20.373
If you are the master of your own destiny,

818
00:26:21.076 --> 00:26:27.084
but also are open to constructive criticism and can humble yourself and can check your ego at the door,

819
00:26:28.256 --> 00:26:30.053
it's only a matter of time until you're successful.

820
00:26:30.490 --> 00:26:32.365
That's internally and also financially.

821
00:26:34.428 --> 00:26:34.943
So many people,

822
00:26:34.944 --> 00:26:35.834
I think ego is a killer.

823
00:26:36.438 --> 00:26:36.959
a killer,

824
00:26:37.339 --> 00:26:39.800
so they can't have all their eggs in one basket because they just won't.

825
00:26:40.082 --> 00:26:42.523
They'll become a self-fulfilling prophecy and implode.

826
00:26:43.203 --> 00:26:44.429
I've seen that several times.

827
00:26:44.468 --> 00:26:45.765
I've had friends that have gone under.

828
00:26:45.828 --> 00:26:46.671
They have a ton of money,

829
00:26:46.945 --> 00:26:47.953
a ton of successful stuff,

830
00:26:47.954 --> 00:26:48.914
but they were their own worst enemy.

831
00:26:49.468 --> 00:26:49.609
Yeah.

832
00:26:49.828 --> 00:26:50.054
Right?

833
00:26:50.171 --> 00:26:52.851
And so the thing that struck me about you,

834
00:26:53.632 --> 00:26:55.851
this is just a gush fest about him.

835
00:26:56.023 --> 00:26:56.945
I love this so much,

836
00:26:58.117 --> 00:27:02.617
is that when we had a great phone call in which I was like,

837
00:27:03.101 --> 00:27:03.851
I like this guy.

838
00:27:04.370 --> 00:27:05.971
And I'm all about first impressions.

839
00:27:05.972 --> 00:27:06.993
That was a great first impression.

840
00:27:07.413 --> 00:27:10.176
So then we go to see PT and

841
00:27:10.696 --> 00:27:13.395
I see you because I knew you were from your photos and everything else.

842
00:27:13.582 --> 00:27:15.582
And we just say hi.

843
00:27:15.778 --> 00:27:17.403
And it was like this warm,

844
00:27:18.004 --> 00:27:18.747
charming,

845
00:27:19.364 --> 00:27:21.489
just personality that is you.

846
00:27:22.254 --> 00:27:29.942
And the thing I loved about you the most is you looked at me in the eye and you made eye contact with me the entire time we were talking.

847
00:27:30.332 --> 00:27:31.332
Your eyes are blue like mine,

848
00:27:31.379 --> 00:27:32.739
so why not?

849
00:27:33.510 --> 00:27:34.330
Game respects game.

850
00:27:34.510 --> 00:27:34.670
Yeah.

851
00:27:36.031 --> 00:27:36.790
And the thing I,

852
00:27:37.271 --> 00:27:37.570
again,

853
00:27:37.992 --> 00:27:40.593
I'm a student of people and I read body language all the time.

854
00:27:41.132 --> 00:27:41.429
And

855
00:27:41.890 --> 00:27:44.109
I love it because for anyone that's been on the,

856
00:27:44.710 --> 00:27:44.976
you know,

857
00:27:45.531 --> 00:27:45.952
party,

858
00:27:46.413 --> 00:27:47.273
cocktail party,

859
00:27:47.390 --> 00:27:49.640
rubber chicken dinner circuit here in Vegas,

860
00:27:49.656 --> 00:27:50.796
which is exhausting.

861
00:27:50.827 --> 00:27:52.218
And if you have to get into it,

862
00:27:52.219 --> 00:27:53.890
get into it and get out as fast as possible.

863
00:27:53.968 --> 00:27:54.093
Yeah.

864
00:27:54.094 --> 00:27:55.062
Because it's maddening.

865
00:27:55.562 --> 00:28:00.249
But most people at an event like that with so many different personalities.

866
00:28:00.686 --> 00:28:03.729
You would have been looking all over for the next person that you need to talk to,

867
00:28:03.850 --> 00:28:04.729
or is everyone okay,

868
00:28:05.049 --> 00:28:05.991
or to put a fire out.

869
00:28:06.553 --> 00:28:11.120
You were locked in with me and or locked in with my wife the entire time.

870
00:28:11.495 --> 00:28:12.737
And I'll never forget that.

871
00:28:12.776 --> 00:28:13.682
And that was when I was like,

872
00:28:14.401 --> 00:28:15.221
I like this guy.

873
00:28:15.659 --> 00:28:22.682
This guy is special in a way that you give a shit about the person you're talking to the very minute you're with them.

874
00:28:25.245 --> 00:28:27.167
How did you get that type of,

875
00:28:27.932 --> 00:28:28.167
you know?

876
00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:29.151
inert trait?

877
00:28:29.171 --> 00:28:30.571
Was it something that you were born with?

878
00:28:30.833 --> 00:28:32.134
Was it something that you were trained,

879
00:28:32.135 --> 00:28:33.474
was trained into and you were taught?

880
00:28:33.915 --> 00:28:36.642
Looking around the room would be caring about the poker.

881
00:28:36.938 --> 00:28:41.899
I was trying to explain to you in the last question that this is a hospitality business.

882
00:28:42.462 --> 00:28:43.345
I learned from the best.

883
00:28:43.524 --> 00:28:45.493
So what does Steve say about hospitality business?

884
00:28:47.306 --> 00:28:48.696
What do you think people come to the wind for?

885
00:28:49.056 --> 00:28:49.852
The chandeliers,

886
00:28:50.056 --> 00:28:51.165
the hand-woven carpets,

887
00:28:51.915 --> 00:28:52.056
10%.

888
00:28:52.399 --> 00:28:53.634
90%

889
00:28:53.635 --> 00:28:57.681
of the reason people like come to the wind is because of the way they're treated by people because

890
00:28:57.846 --> 00:28:59.706
only people can make people happy.

891
00:28:59.807 --> 00:29:02.566
It's the most strong and true part of human dynamics.

892
00:29:05.148 --> 00:29:05.926
That's what I'm there for.

893
00:29:06.371 --> 00:29:07.308
I'm there to be a host.

894
00:29:07.348 --> 00:29:08.730
I'm there to be hospitable.

895
00:29:08.731 --> 00:29:09.512
And at the same time,

896
00:29:09.527 --> 00:29:10.449
I was fascinated by you.

897
00:29:11.191 --> 00:29:12.652
I really enjoyed our first phone call.

898
00:29:12.691 --> 00:29:13.871
So finally meeting you in person,

899
00:29:13.902 --> 00:29:15.183
I was very excited to do that.

900
00:29:16.449 --> 00:29:17.793
But that's what it's about because

901
00:29:18.387 --> 00:29:18.777
I couldn't,

902
00:29:19.137 --> 00:29:19.668
you might say,

903
00:29:19.715 --> 00:29:19.887
wow,

904
00:29:19.888 --> 00:29:21.730
that was a pretty studio and you decorated it well.

905
00:29:22.371 --> 00:29:22.574
Jeff,

906
00:29:22.637 --> 00:29:24.527
what did the fourth wall panel have on it?

907
00:29:25.293 --> 00:29:25.965
The fourth panel,

908
00:29:25.966 --> 00:29:27.340
when you walk in and you look to the left,

909
00:29:27.554 --> 00:29:29.474
there's seven panels that go around the room like this.

910
00:29:29.515 --> 00:29:30.495
What was on the fourth one?

911
00:29:30.855 --> 00:29:32.076
Maybe you remember the colors,

912
00:29:32.275 --> 00:29:32.576
maybe.

913
00:29:33.134 --> 00:29:34.154
But tell me what's on the fourth panel.

914
00:29:34.177 --> 00:29:34.536
You can't.

915
00:29:34.775 --> 00:29:36.036
What was on the felt of the tables?

916
00:29:36.396 --> 00:29:38.935
I sat there for hours sitting there designing those felts.

917
00:29:39.177 --> 00:29:39.896
But at the same time,

918
00:29:39.958 --> 00:29:41.419
tell me one thing about those felts.

919
00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:41.794
You couldn't.

920
00:29:41.795 --> 00:29:42.380
You weren't a player.

921
00:29:42.419 --> 00:29:43.896
So fair enough that you didn't look at the felts.

922
00:29:43.958 --> 00:29:44.880
What about the screens?

923
00:29:45.443 --> 00:29:46.583
What about the production staff?

924
00:29:47.224 --> 00:29:48.365
Guess how many people were on it?

925
00:29:48.443 --> 00:29:49.474
You couldn't come up with that number.

926
00:29:49.865 --> 00:29:51.021
What do you remember about CPT?

927
00:29:51.115 --> 00:29:54.005
You remember the way that you were treated by me and hopefully other people there?

928
00:29:55.118 --> 00:29:56.119
So now you want to come back.

929
00:29:56.760 --> 00:29:58.702
That is the core objective of the business,

930
00:29:59.002 --> 00:29:59.282
you know?

931
00:29:59.481 --> 00:30:04.504
And obviously there's a personal love for doing it.

932
00:30:04.684 --> 00:30:04.989
I mean,

933
00:30:05.309 --> 00:30:09.575
if that's my business is I just get to meet nice people like you and talk and hang out.

934
00:30:09.629 --> 00:30:09.934
All right,

935
00:30:09.950 --> 00:30:10.153
cool.

936
00:30:10.731 --> 00:30:11.973
Life could be a lot worse than that.

937
00:30:12.114 --> 00:30:12.629
Oh my God.

938
00:30:13.223 --> 00:30:16.864
But it's also good people attract good people,

939
00:30:17.957 --> 00:30:18.223
you know?

940
00:30:18.254 --> 00:30:18.520
And how,

941
00:30:18.567 --> 00:30:19.082
like you said,

942
00:30:19.442 --> 00:30:20.317
there's no drama there.

943
00:30:20.817 --> 00:30:20.942
Yeah.

944
00:30:21.285 --> 00:30:22.145
And you come in,

945
00:30:22.801 --> 00:30:23.629
you drink what you want.

946
00:30:23.660 --> 00:30:24.301
There's nice food.

947
00:30:24.522 --> 00:30:25.543
It's a wonderful location.

948
00:30:25.544 --> 00:30:26.685
No rubber chicken at our place.

949
00:30:26.686 --> 00:30:27.704
There's no rubber chicken.

950
00:30:27.726 --> 00:30:28.985
I was in real estate forever here.

951
00:30:29.208 --> 00:30:30.349
We just call it escrow chicken.

952
00:30:30.790 --> 00:30:32.048
You go to escrow chicken dinners.

953
00:30:32.228 --> 00:30:32.892
Fucking awful.

954
00:30:33.173 --> 00:30:35.212
I'd rather go to the dentist than go to those.

955
00:30:35.696 --> 00:30:35.993
Me too.

956
00:30:36.392 --> 00:30:39.095
Galas where it's real estate agents giving themselves awards.

957
00:30:39.774 --> 00:30:40.259
Please.

958
00:30:40.493 --> 00:30:40.837
Yeah.

959
00:30:40.838 --> 00:30:41.431
Please.

960
00:30:42.618 --> 00:30:43.181
Never again.

961
00:30:43.384 --> 00:30:44.337
I'm so glad I'm out of that.

962
00:30:44.368 --> 00:30:48.228
But it is something that it was very unique to me.

963
00:30:48.790 --> 00:30:53.212
I've been here for 15 years in Vegas and been to a lot of the escrow rubber chicken dinners.

964
00:30:53.874 --> 00:30:54.094
Uh,

965
00:30:54.095 --> 00:30:54.374
you know,

966
00:30:54.654 --> 00:30:55.934
and you walk out going,

967
00:30:56.354 --> 00:30:57.734
I just spent two hours of my life.

968
00:30:57.735 --> 00:30:58.676
I'm never gonna get back again.

969
00:30:59.215 --> 00:31:00.414
Where with yours,

970
00:31:00.836 --> 00:31:02.356
I'm walking out with my best friend,

971
00:31:03.035 --> 00:31:03.535
my wife,

972
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:03.996
and we're like,

973
00:31:04.215 --> 00:31:04.457
oh God,

974
00:31:04.458 --> 00:31:05.074
that was awesome.

975
00:31:05.918 --> 00:31:06.816
How much fun was that?

976
00:31:07.356 --> 00:31:09.559
Like I walked out energized and happy.

977
00:31:10.285 --> 00:31:11.191
I wasn't exhausted.

978
00:31:12.113 --> 00:31:13.145
That's never happened before.

979
00:31:14.113 --> 00:31:14.379
It was,

980
00:31:14.441 --> 00:31:15.020
it was crazy.

981
00:31:15.238 --> 00:31:15.863
Like there was a thing.

982
00:31:15.926 --> 00:31:17.363
Are you going to the grand gift thing tonight?

983
00:31:17.863 --> 00:31:18.457
I'm not tonight,

984
00:31:18.458 --> 00:31:19.457
but normally I would support it.

985
00:31:19.458 --> 00:31:20.020
My grandparents are here.

986
00:31:20.021 --> 00:31:20.457
That's right.

987
00:31:21.062 --> 00:31:21.342
Yeah,

988
00:31:21.543 --> 00:31:24.926
but Peter Krause runs that and he's a dear friend and it's going to be great.

989
00:31:25.027 --> 00:31:26.809
You're on the ground at Legion Stadium,

990
00:31:26.848 --> 00:31:27.027
right?

991
00:31:27.168 --> 00:31:27.348
Yeah.

992
00:31:27.570 --> 00:31:27.727
Good.

993
00:31:27.770 --> 00:31:27.930
Yeah.

994
00:31:27.988 --> 00:31:30.235
So there's a PR company I work with here,

995
00:31:31.133 --> 00:31:31.672
Brand Bomb.

996
00:31:31.750 --> 00:31:32.453
Shout out to Lindsay.

997
00:31:32.555 --> 00:31:33.070
I love her.

998
00:31:33.477 --> 00:31:34.195
We're at her table.

999
00:31:34.758 --> 00:31:35.235
And

1000
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:36.516
I told my wife,

1001
00:31:36.860 --> 00:31:38.000
who enjoys a cocktail,

1002
00:31:38.219 --> 00:31:38.813
bless her heart,

1003
00:31:39.063 --> 00:31:39.313
I said,

1004
00:31:39.344 --> 00:31:39.500
honey,

1005
00:31:39.516 --> 00:31:40.328
this is a work event.

1006
00:31:40.563 --> 00:31:41.219
No more than three.

1007
00:31:42.703 --> 00:31:43.250
That's all you get.

1008
00:31:43.297 --> 00:31:44.031
No more than three.

1009
00:31:44.438 --> 00:31:46.031
So she gave me a scowl about that.

1010
00:31:46.047 --> 00:31:46.766
And she goes,

1011
00:31:46.767 --> 00:31:47.063
but honey,

1012
00:31:47.313 --> 00:31:47.906
it's champagne.

1013
00:31:47.922 --> 00:31:48.110
I go,

1014
00:31:48.111 --> 00:31:48.531
I don't care.

1015
00:31:48.563 --> 00:31:49.328
That might be two.

1016
00:31:50.594 --> 00:31:53.517
This is a work event and a lot of people can't speak Southern slur.

1017
00:31:54.338 --> 00:31:54.457
So,

1018
00:31:54.719 --> 00:31:54.957
you know,

1019
00:31:55.219 --> 00:31:55.340
we're,

1020
00:31:55.379 --> 00:31:56.922
we're there to like meet people and have fun.

1021
00:31:57.082 --> 00:31:57.340
And I'm,

1022
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:57.601
I'm,

1023
00:31:57.941 --> 00:31:58.340
I'm kidding,

1024
00:31:58.341 --> 00:31:58.644
but it's,

1025
00:31:59.105 --> 00:31:59.566
it's like,

1026
00:32:00.082 --> 00:32:01.207
I'm sure tonight will be a great event.

1027
00:32:01.222 --> 00:32:01.762
That's a higher,

1028
00:32:02.402 --> 00:32:03.129
it's a higher level,

1029
00:32:03.230 --> 00:32:03.808
nicer thing.

1030
00:32:03.847 --> 00:32:05.387
I know other people that are going.

1031
00:32:05.871 --> 00:32:06.090
Um,

1032
00:32:07.137 --> 00:32:12.058
but for you to what you've tapped into with CPT is,

1033
00:32:12.402 --> 00:32:13.199
is it something that

1034
00:32:13.558 --> 00:32:16.199
I know you do that you do stuff in other places,

1035
00:32:16.683 --> 00:32:16.902
right?

1036
00:32:17.824 --> 00:32:20.168
What is your growth trajectory like?

1037
00:32:20.498 --> 00:32:21.859
with the CPT brand?

1038
00:32:21.860 --> 00:32:23.502
Is this something you're going to take global?

1039
00:32:23.941 --> 00:32:27.744
Is this something that you still just want to keep it right here so you can manage it and it's kind of your baby here?

1040
00:32:27.966 --> 00:32:28.127
Well,

1041
00:32:28.529 --> 00:32:30.865
we're actually in December on the 12th.

1042
00:32:30.866 --> 00:32:33.849
We're taking it out of Las Vegas and we are going global.

1043
00:32:34.091 --> 00:32:37.052
We're doing our first international event at the Atlantis in the Bahamas.

1044
00:32:37.053 --> 00:32:37.896
We partnered with them.

1045
00:32:38.502 --> 00:32:39.903
And so that's going to be fantastic.

1046
00:32:40.344 --> 00:32:40.745
We've had to,

1047
00:32:40.746 --> 00:32:43.909
and it's been an interesting exercise because we have to build a whole stage.

1048
00:32:43.948 --> 00:32:44.186
You know,

1049
00:32:44.206 --> 00:32:45.569
like I have fun with these kinds of things.

1050
00:32:45.570 --> 00:32:48.729
You have to build a stage because you don't have the Aria's poker studio there,

1051
00:32:48.831 --> 00:32:49.049
right?

1052
00:32:49.112 --> 00:32:51.674
And you have to produce new tables.

1053
00:32:51.714 --> 00:32:51.995
And we,

1054
00:32:52.495 --> 00:32:53.878
in the process of producing new tables,

1055
00:32:53.879 --> 00:32:54.081
I said,

1056
00:32:54.082 --> 00:32:54.596
wait a second,

1057
00:32:55.331 --> 00:33:01.659
there are things that a poker table in theory could do if you spent a bunch of money on tech and were creative that they've never done before.

1058
00:33:01.690 --> 00:33:02.784
And so November 19th,

1059
00:33:02.785 --> 00:33:03.940
you'll see it for the first time.

1060
00:33:04.314 --> 00:33:08.594
You've never seen a poker table with screens on the table under the felt that register to the players.

1061
00:33:09.477 --> 00:33:10.617
You're going to see that for the first time.

1062
00:33:10.637 --> 00:33:13.957
We literally invented a poker table unlike has ever existed before.

1063
00:33:14.035 --> 00:33:15.637
And so to me,

1064
00:33:15.699 --> 00:33:16.293
the goal is,

1065
00:33:17.113 --> 00:33:17.356
you know,

1066
00:33:17.574 --> 00:33:17.738
look,

1067
00:33:17.777 --> 00:33:19.840
we're in totally uncharted territory,

1068
00:33:20.059 --> 00:33:21.176
which is what makes it the most fun.

1069
00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:22.442
I can no longer,

1070
00:33:22.473 --> 00:33:23.379
for maybe the first three,

1071
00:33:23.426 --> 00:33:23.817
four months,

1072
00:33:23.863 --> 00:33:25.660
I could look at the World Series or I could look at

1073
00:33:26.113 --> 00:33:28.395
World Poker Tour or some of these other poker businesses and say,

1074
00:33:28.457 --> 00:33:30.254
what do they do that works and doesn't work?

1075
00:33:30.301 --> 00:33:32.567
And what do we want to pull from that or whatever it is?

1076
00:33:32.613 --> 00:33:33.223
but we have we've

1077
00:33:33.910 --> 00:33:34.230
And again,

1078
00:33:34.270 --> 00:33:35.432
we're a different business than them.

1079
00:33:35.471 --> 00:33:36.752
They are a poker business.

1080
00:33:36.772 --> 00:33:39.295
They cater to a very different client and everything like that.

1081
00:33:39.577 --> 00:33:40.877
So I would look at us as,

1082
00:33:41.159 --> 00:33:42.358
nevermind that we're non-competitive.

1083
00:33:42.381 --> 00:33:49.522
We partnered with the World Series of Poker to take our event to the Bahamas because we bring in a very different audience and have a very different approach to what we do.

1084
00:33:51.850 --> 00:33:52.381
But it's fun,

1085
00:33:52.756 --> 00:33:53.022
you know,

1086
00:33:53.225 --> 00:33:54.225
because at the same time,

1087
00:33:54.256 --> 00:33:57.709
there are also businesses that have now begun to start trying to copy us.

1088
00:33:58.319 --> 00:33:59.350
But there's the,

1089
00:34:00.272 --> 00:34:00.522
you know,

1090
00:34:00.569 --> 00:34:01.819
there's a great quote.

1091
00:34:02.053 --> 00:34:02.522
The guy who...

1092
00:34:02.802 --> 00:34:04.464
have gotten more into recently,

1093
00:34:04.704 --> 00:34:05.245
country music.

1094
00:34:05.845 --> 00:34:07.227
And something I like to do too,

1095
00:34:07.267 --> 00:34:08.329
like when I get into something,

1096
00:34:08.368 --> 00:34:11.513
I like to listen to podcasts about it or read little articles about it.

1097
00:34:11.528 --> 00:34:12.513
I do not read books.

1098
00:34:12.575 --> 00:34:13.614
I do not like books.

1099
00:34:13.669 --> 00:34:15.395
I don't have the time for it and just don't like it.

1100
00:34:15.458 --> 00:34:18.435
But I like to listen when I'm in the car more than music.

1101
00:34:18.458 --> 00:34:20.325
I like to listen to something that maybe teaches me.

1102
00:34:21.247 --> 00:34:28.685
And I was listening to a story from Waylon Jennings was telling a story about how when he used to tour,

1103
00:34:28.950 --> 00:34:32.247
he would have an opener that oftentimes sounded just like him.

1104
00:34:33.070 --> 00:34:34.693
And he said a lot of time,

1105
00:34:34.694 --> 00:34:34.894
he said,

1106
00:34:34.913 --> 00:34:41.827
I remember one time there was a kid that was opening for me that came to me and asked if he liked what I did.

1107
00:34:41.867 --> 00:34:43.765
Because instead of opening with some of my own music,

1108
00:34:43.812 --> 00:34:46.335
I included some of his songs that he was about to then sing.

1109
00:34:46.734 --> 00:34:47.077
And he said,

1110
00:34:47.093 --> 00:34:47.218
no,

1111
00:34:47.273 --> 00:34:48.257
I thought you were a great kid.

1112
00:34:48.258 --> 00:34:48.437
He said,

1113
00:34:48.438 --> 00:34:48.538
well,

1114
00:34:48.539 --> 00:34:48.952
are you sure,

1115
00:34:49.312 --> 00:34:49.499
Mr.

1116
00:34:49.546 --> 00:34:49.921
Jennings?

1117
00:34:49.984 --> 00:34:50.374
And he says,

1118
00:34:50.421 --> 00:34:50.593
well.

1119
00:34:51.593 --> 00:34:52.114
here's a problem,

1120
00:34:52.174 --> 00:34:52.374
kid.

1121
00:34:52.934 --> 00:34:53.696
If you're copying me,

1122
00:34:53.716 --> 00:34:54.917
you're always one step behind.

1123
00:34:55.417 --> 00:34:59.540
And I think that that is the territory we've reached with CPT,

1124
00:35:00.204 --> 00:35:02.501
where because we're in such uncharted waters,

1125
00:35:02.524 --> 00:35:03.165
whatever we do,

1126
00:35:03.485 --> 00:35:04.829
even if someone else goes and does it,

1127
00:35:05.149 --> 00:35:05.266
oh,

1128
00:35:05.267 --> 00:35:06.610
that's the CPT gimmick,

1129
00:35:06.626 --> 00:35:07.993
or that's the thing CPT did.

1130
00:35:08.977 --> 00:35:09.274
And so

1131
00:35:10.430 --> 00:35:11.134
I think we're actually,

1132
00:35:11.149 --> 00:35:11.430
frankly,

1133
00:35:11.493 --> 00:35:12.477
more than one step ahead,

1134
00:35:12.509 --> 00:35:13.774
especially when it comes to media.

1135
00:35:14.243 --> 00:35:14.509
I mean,

1136
00:35:14.696 --> 00:35:15.462
our second event,

1137
00:35:15.571 --> 00:35:17.399
we had a contortionist go all in with her feet.

1138
00:35:17.962 --> 00:35:19.477
And it sounds simple,

1139
00:35:19.837 --> 00:35:21.149
but that was the most watched poker clip.

1140
00:35:21.297 --> 00:35:25.280
of 2024 was a girl going all in with her feet because no one's ever seen something like that.

1141
00:35:25.421 --> 00:35:27.741
And fair enough.

1142
00:35:28.042 --> 00:35:34.429
If another poker business wants to go get a fire dancer or get a different contortionist or the same one for that matter,

1143
00:35:34.491 --> 00:35:35.593
Sophie can do whatever she wants.

1144
00:35:35.671 --> 00:35:37.929
But that was CPT's thing.

1145
00:35:38.116 --> 00:35:38.757
You know what I mean?

1146
00:35:38.758 --> 00:35:42.319
And so that's the part that's honestly a lot of fun for how we're growing the business.

1147
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.226
And it's why I think our potential is completely uncapped.

1148
00:35:46.163 --> 00:35:46.304
Well,

1149
00:35:46.398 --> 00:35:48.866
you're pushing boundaries and you're really creating your own,

1150
00:35:49.788 --> 00:35:50.507
which is limitless.

1151
00:35:51.065 --> 00:35:51.686
for what you're doing.

1152
00:35:52.066 --> 00:35:53.007
Can we please,

1153
00:35:53.027 --> 00:35:56.772
can I please get a video of you going down that massive water slide at Atlantis?

1154
00:35:56.951 --> 00:35:57.190
Yeah.

1155
00:35:57.510 --> 00:35:58.092
That would be fantastic.

1156
00:35:58.093 --> 00:35:58.791
One of my favorite things to do.

1157
00:35:58.792 --> 00:35:59.490
That would be,

1158
00:35:59.491 --> 00:36:00.014
I've never been there.

1159
00:36:00.015 --> 00:36:00.795
It's all I've ever seen.

1160
00:36:01.233 --> 00:36:01.998
That's like a bucket list for me.

1161
00:36:01.999 --> 00:36:02.475
If you guys want to go,

1162
00:36:02.476 --> 00:36:03.076
I'll set it up.

1163
00:36:03.077 --> 00:36:03.358
You guys,

1164
00:36:03.373 --> 00:36:04.436
it would be fun to have you come.

1165
00:36:04.437 --> 00:36:05.397
You could shoot podcasts there.

1166
00:36:05.717 --> 00:36:06.943
We can have that conversation.

1167
00:36:07.123 --> 00:36:07.264
Sure.

1168
00:36:07.936 --> 00:36:08.061
If,

1169
00:36:08.139 --> 00:36:08.701
and now again,

1170
00:36:09.170 --> 00:36:10.717
if my wife was here right now,

1171
00:36:11.279 --> 00:36:11.967
hell yes,

1172
00:36:12.139 --> 00:36:12.873
she'd be screaming.

1173
00:36:13.373 --> 00:36:14.670
She'd be screaming from the control room.

1174
00:36:14.671 --> 00:36:17.686
She likes to sit there with Scott because I can hear her laughing through the wall sometimes.

1175
00:36:20.257 --> 00:36:20.678
I always,

1176
00:36:20.718 --> 00:36:21.478
I'm more measured.

1177
00:36:22.019 --> 00:36:23.420
I'm the one that pays the bills for stuff.

1178
00:36:23.421 --> 00:36:23.721
I'm like,

1179
00:36:23.740 --> 00:36:23.941
honey,

1180
00:36:24.322 --> 00:36:25.724
let's look and see with timing,

1181
00:36:25.725 --> 00:36:26.724
with kids and all that.

1182
00:36:26.764 --> 00:36:28.482
So we'll have that conversation.

1183
00:36:28.483 --> 00:36:28.748
Yeah,

1184
00:36:28.749 --> 00:36:29.467
you can bring the kids.

1185
00:36:29.670 --> 00:36:30.826
If there's a place to bring kids,

1186
00:36:30.849 --> 00:36:32.771
Atlantis and the Bahamas is probably where you want to bring them.

1187
00:36:32.772 --> 00:36:33.732
That's hilarious.

1188
00:36:33.733 --> 00:36:35.631
Because my wife is,

1189
00:36:36.209 --> 00:36:36.381
yeah,

1190
00:36:36.537 --> 00:36:38.818
we'll talk about that off camera because I have stories about her.

1191
00:36:39.709 --> 00:36:42.521
I want to get into politics a little bit.

1192
00:36:42.724 --> 00:36:43.224
Okay.

1193
00:36:43.443 --> 00:36:46.787
And I want to start with your relationship with President Trump.

1194
00:36:48.287 --> 00:36:49.021
I'm a New York guy.

1195
00:36:50.073 --> 00:36:52.393
And so was born in Manhattan,

1196
00:36:52.873 --> 00:36:53.075
was,

1197
00:36:53.313 --> 00:36:54.092
but an upstate.

1198
00:36:54.553 --> 00:36:56.354
I come from a real estate development family.

1199
00:36:56.514 --> 00:36:59.534
My grandfather were from Canandaigua Lake and Canada,

1200
00:36:59.877 --> 00:37:02.955
one of the nicest places in the world in upstate New York.

1201
00:37:03.276 --> 00:37:03.674
I grew up,

1202
00:37:03.675 --> 00:37:04.698
we owned an amusement park.

1203
00:37:05.737 --> 00:37:08.159
My first girlfriend was Meg Marion in fifth grade.

1204
00:37:08.424 --> 00:37:11.018
I broke up with her because she wouldn't make out with me in the spook house,

1205
00:37:11.799 --> 00:37:12.705
in the haunted house,

1206
00:37:13.096 --> 00:37:14.315
the golden nugget it was called,

1207
00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:15.455
which was actually hilarious.

1208
00:37:16.346 --> 00:37:16.580
But yeah,

1209
00:37:16.612 --> 00:37:18.455
I dumped her because she wouldn't make out with me.

1210
00:37:18.881 --> 00:37:19.321
And she said,

1211
00:37:19.342 --> 00:37:19.722
that's okay,

1212
00:37:19.723 --> 00:37:20.563
you swear too much.

1213
00:37:21.624 --> 00:37:22.364
I was like,

1214
00:37:22.365 --> 00:37:23.305
go take a shit for yourself.

1215
00:37:23.446 --> 00:37:23.786
Goodbye.

1216
00:37:24.985 --> 00:37:25.387
Off you go.

1217
00:37:26.368 --> 00:37:27.008
But it was,

1218
00:37:27.508 --> 00:37:36.493
I always watched Trump and was a fan of his because he came in and he wasn't the just status quo for politics.

1219
00:37:36.743 --> 00:37:37.727
And still is to this day.

1220
00:37:38.118 --> 00:37:38.352
You know,

1221
00:37:38.353 --> 00:37:42.071
I think there's a lot he's learned from 45 to now to 47.

1222
00:37:42.337 --> 00:37:42.805
Absolutely.

1223
00:37:43.024 --> 00:37:43.290
Right?

1224
00:37:44.290 --> 00:37:45.227
What are some things,

1225
00:37:45.228 --> 00:37:45.868
because you know him,

1226
00:37:47.790 --> 00:37:48.633
what are some things that

1227
00:37:48.781 --> 00:37:49.222
people,

1228
00:37:49.742 --> 00:37:51.945
if they were moderate left,

1229
00:37:52.966 --> 00:37:55.165
that you could have a conversation with them to say,

1230
00:37:55.486 --> 00:38:02.033
this is some stuff about the president that you don't know about his love for the country and how he really is when he treats,

1231
00:38:02.197 --> 00:38:03.158
how he treats people.

1232
00:38:03.712 --> 00:38:05.962
If they are truly moderate left,

1233
00:38:06.337 --> 00:38:08.634
they wouldn't ask me that because they're already a voter of his.

1234
00:38:08.915 --> 00:38:10.743
He is moderate left incidentally.

1235
00:38:11.618 --> 00:38:15.712
There's a reason why Tulsa Gabbard and Bobby Kennedy and other

1236
00:38:15.953 --> 00:38:21.919
moderate left people have left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party because he represents them.

1237
00:38:21.938 --> 00:38:25.825
There's a reason why he got more union vote than anybody in 100 years got.

1238
00:38:25.841 --> 00:38:30.927
There's a reason why most unions either didn't endorse Kamala or some went as far as to endorse him.

1239
00:38:31.388 --> 00:38:31.630
I mean,

1240
00:38:31.974 --> 00:38:34.567
the moderate left comes from a place of a few things.

1241
00:38:34.568 --> 00:38:38.036
It comes from a place of not wanting wars in terms of foreign policy.

1242
00:38:38.442 --> 00:38:40.864
It comes from a place of wanting immigration,

1243
00:38:41.099 --> 00:38:41.661
but legal?

1244
00:38:41.969 --> 00:38:45.769
not just open borders for God knows who drug runners to just come here.

1245
00:38:46.650 --> 00:38:52.271
It comes from a place of wanting working class people to be able to afford to build a family,

1246
00:38:52.349 --> 00:38:53.349
support their kids,

1247
00:38:53.552 --> 00:38:54.154
get married,

1248
00:38:54.271 --> 00:38:55.029
send them to school,

1249
00:38:55.310 --> 00:38:56.411
have a strong education.

1250
00:38:58.146 --> 00:39:00.599
If you look at any policy that he's passed,

1251
00:39:00.646 --> 00:39:02.115
especially in the big,

1252
00:39:02.146 --> 00:39:04.380
beautiful bill and everything he's done since becoming the

1253
00:39:04.896 --> 00:39:05.990
47th president of the United States,

1254
00:39:06.349 --> 00:39:07.411
you'd see that guy.

1255
00:39:08.073 --> 00:39:10.793
You'd see that guy who's instilled those moderate left values.

1256
00:39:10.794 --> 00:39:11.993
He has started no new wars.

1257
00:39:12.012 --> 00:39:12.696
He's ended some.

1258
00:39:13.196 --> 00:39:15.496
He's already passed the no tax on tips,

1259
00:39:15.497 --> 00:39:16.739
no tax on overtime.

1260
00:39:17.778 --> 00:39:23.098
The problem is that what does the moderate left absorb in terms of content?

1261
00:39:23.317 --> 00:39:25.692
There's two things that are fundamentally true about people.

1262
00:39:25.754 --> 00:39:26.270
Number one,

1263
00:39:26.301 --> 00:39:27.676
they're largely group thinkers,

1264
00:39:27.723 --> 00:39:29.442
which is why there's two parties.

1265
00:39:29.832 --> 00:39:30.895
Think of that for a second.

1266
00:39:30.942 --> 00:39:33.895
There's 150 or 60 million voters,

1267
00:39:33.942 --> 00:39:36.192
and there's 360 million people in this country.

1268
00:39:36.601 --> 00:39:40.464
And we've decided as a country that there's two ideologies to pick from.

1269
00:39:41.025 --> 00:39:48.013
That in itself fundamentally proves the point that groupthink is one of the things that very much so exists in human dynamics,

1270
00:39:48.052 --> 00:39:48.490
number one.

1271
00:39:49.732 --> 00:39:50.037
And so,

1272
00:39:50.654 --> 00:39:51.076
number two.

1273
00:39:52.089 --> 00:39:54.612
If you end up in a situation where you say,

1274
00:39:54.792 --> 00:39:56.894
I'm moderate left because that's what my neighbor is,

1275
00:39:57.175 --> 00:40:00.480
or because I don't like the rhetoric that comes out of his mouth,

1276
00:40:00.558 --> 00:40:03.776
or because I watch a certain news station and they tell me

1277
00:40:04.362 --> 00:40:04.784
X, Y,

1278
00:40:04.785 --> 00:40:05.503
Z about him,

1279
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:09.042
I think there's a certain responsibility you have,

1280
00:40:09.089 --> 00:40:10.667
if you want to be properly informed,

1281
00:40:10.886 --> 00:40:12.823
to go do further research for yourself.

1282
00:40:13.636 --> 00:40:16.730
You cannot trust social media to just get all your news from it.

1283
00:40:16.745 --> 00:40:20.761
You cannot trust some news anchor on MSNBC any more than you can trust one on Fox.

1284
00:40:21.241 --> 00:40:24.061
Sean Hannity is no less biased than the people on The View.

1285
00:40:24.682 --> 00:40:25.180
He might,

1286
00:40:25.981 --> 00:40:27.024
the thing Sean Hannity has,

1287
00:40:27.141 --> 00:40:27.844
in my opinion,

1288
00:40:27.864 --> 00:40:28.164
in which,

1289
00:40:28.262 --> 00:40:28.524
again,

1290
00:40:29.082 --> 00:40:30.641
I'm saying my opinion to be politically correct,

1291
00:40:30.642 --> 00:40:31.227
but at the end of the day,

1292
00:40:31.883 --> 00:40:32.563
fact is on

1293
00:40:32.961 --> 00:40:33.461
Sean's side.

1294
00:40:34.204 --> 00:40:37.391
Common sense is on the side of the Republican Party right now.

1295
00:40:38.485 --> 00:40:43.532
You think there's one Republican in this country that doesn't wish that Democrats had a little more common sense?

1296
00:40:43.907 --> 00:40:44.500
They'd love that.

1297
00:40:44.860 --> 00:40:48.985
I'd love if we were a country of two parties where both sides were a feasible option.

1298
00:40:49.469 --> 00:40:50.610
They had their differences.

1299
00:40:51.065 --> 00:40:51.225
But,

1300
00:40:52.146 --> 00:40:52.405
you know,

1301
00:40:52.585 --> 00:40:53.766
it was like this last election.

1302
00:40:53.846 --> 00:40:54.346
It wasn't,

1303
00:40:54.606 --> 00:40:54.865
all right,

1304
00:40:54.866 --> 00:40:55.285
who's going to win?

1305
00:40:55.586 --> 00:40:56.188
Trump or Kamala?

1306
00:40:56.207 --> 00:40:57.008
Let's just see what happens.

1307
00:40:57.009 --> 00:40:58.008
It wasn't as simple as,

1308
00:40:58.707 --> 00:40:58.988
you know,

1309
00:40:59.426 --> 00:41:00.848
a Reagan versus Mondale.

1310
00:41:00.887 --> 00:41:01.207
Granted,

1311
00:41:01.208 --> 00:41:03.426
the country had a pretty strong mandate in that election.

1312
00:41:03.427 --> 00:41:04.004
But nonetheless,

1313
00:41:04.005 --> 00:41:05.527
it wasn't as simple as that where it's,

1314
00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:05.746
well,

1315
00:41:05.770 --> 00:41:07.043
here's a nice guy and here's a nice guy.

1316
00:41:07.044 --> 00:41:08.121
And they got two different ideas.

1317
00:41:08.449 --> 00:41:08.793
It was,

1318
00:41:09.184 --> 00:41:12.746
here's a president that's going to do the things that Trump is actively doing.

1319
00:41:12.809 --> 00:41:13.543
Promises made,

1320
00:41:13.574 --> 00:41:14.356
promises kept,

1321
00:41:14.371 --> 00:41:15.949
I think is a fair thing to say about him.

1322
00:41:15.950 --> 00:41:19.856
There's very little he said on the campaign trail that he hasn't already in six months done.

1323
00:41:20.773 --> 00:41:21.033
I mean,

1324
00:41:21.494 --> 00:41:21.814
like I said,

1325
00:41:21.834 --> 00:41:22.836
I don't like to read books.

1326
00:41:23.015 --> 00:41:24.896
One of the few books I read in school,

1327
00:41:24.959 --> 00:41:25.857
because if I didn't,

1328
00:41:25.939 --> 00:41:28.041
I was really on the brink of not passing English,

1329
00:41:28.361 --> 00:41:30.021
was 1984 by George Orwell.

1330
00:41:30.341 --> 00:41:31.584
That is what you would have seen,

1331
00:41:31.943 --> 00:41:36.591
a true dystopian turn for the worst in American society had she won.

1332
00:41:36.927 --> 00:41:46.302
You think she would have ever had the sophistication in class to send two B-2s overnight to Iran to knock out their nuclear capabilities and send them back with nevermind a casualty,

1333
00:41:46.381 --> 00:41:47.256
but no casualty,

1334
00:41:47.646 --> 00:41:49.099
no retaliation or anything like that?

1335
00:41:49.649 --> 00:41:50.510
Can you imagine?

1336
00:41:51.331 --> 00:41:53.472
No chance in hell.

1337
00:41:53.952 --> 00:41:54.433
People are saying,

1338
00:41:54.452 --> 00:41:54.675
well,

1339
00:41:55.456 --> 00:41:57.116
there's ceasefires that are being agreed to,

1340
00:41:57.218 --> 00:41:59.519
but they're not all necessarily being upheld.

1341
00:42:00.698 --> 00:42:01.620
She would have probably said,

1342
00:42:01.621 --> 00:42:02.745
we don't even want to speak to them.

1343
00:42:03.222 --> 00:42:05.245
She would have just sent more taxpayer money over there.

1344
00:42:05.246 --> 00:42:07.870
She would have sent human troops lives over there so they could die for nothing.

1345
00:42:09.823 --> 00:42:14.573
We have people who are running on values that I don't...

1346
00:42:14.714 --> 00:42:14.980
And look,

1347
00:42:15.026 --> 00:42:15.401
by the way,

1348
00:42:15.417 --> 00:42:18.011
I don't think that they have literally evil intentions.

1349
00:42:18.513 --> 00:42:18.913
And that'd be,

1350
00:42:18.974 --> 00:42:19.814
that's like a stretch.

1351
00:42:19.815 --> 00:42:19.934
I mean,

1352
00:42:19.935 --> 00:42:20.355
at the end of the day,

1353
00:42:20.415 --> 00:42:21.576
you're vice president of the United States.

1354
00:42:21.577 --> 00:42:23.918
Do I think you truly want the worst for this country?

1355
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:24.117
No.

1356
00:42:24.781 --> 00:42:27.781
Do I think you're smart enough to know how to get the best for this country?

1357
00:42:27.984 --> 00:42:28.703
Absolutely not.

1358
00:42:28.961 --> 00:42:29.242
You know?

1359
00:42:29.281 --> 00:42:30.203
And so I think that,

1360
00:42:31.344 --> 00:42:35.344
I think we would have been in a really dangerous zone of moving,

1361
00:42:35.937 --> 00:42:36.203
again,

1362
00:42:36.547 --> 00:42:38.266
farther left than left exists.

1363
00:42:38.406 --> 00:42:40.687
There's not a lot to say to a democratic socialist,

1364
00:42:40.937 --> 00:42:41.156
right?

1365
00:42:41.219 --> 00:42:41.781
Like truthfully.

1366
00:42:43.156 --> 00:42:47.094
in my perspective you don't necessarily have to though because they make up

1367
00:42:47.501 --> 00:42:48.483
truly a minority.

1368
00:42:48.602 --> 00:42:51.526
They're loud on social media because the idea is so ridiculous.

1369
00:42:51.545 --> 00:42:58.248
They're a little more viral than maybe common sense might be because there's more common sense in the ethos than there is of that.

1370
00:42:58.334 --> 00:43:00.076
So you just hear it when it gets said,

1371
00:43:00.678 --> 00:43:02.037
but America doesn't go for that.

1372
00:43:02.154 --> 00:43:02.615
America hasn't,

1373
00:43:02.616 --> 00:43:05.115
we're celebrating our 250th birthday next July.

1374
00:43:05.444 --> 00:43:09.022
We haven't gone for that one of the 249 years we've been going so far,

1375
00:43:09.100 --> 00:43:10.225
and we're not going to start next year.

1376
00:43:10.881 --> 00:43:15.069
That doesn't mean that a mayor in the most liberal city in the country might not fall through the cracks,

1377
00:43:15.444 --> 00:43:16.490
but this is not,

1378
00:43:16.537 --> 00:43:16.694
this.

1379
00:43:16.877 --> 00:43:18.158
The United States is a center-right country.

1380
00:43:19.339 --> 00:43:20.900
And if you are truly moderate left,

1381
00:43:21.123 --> 00:43:23.525
you are probably currently identifying as center-right.

1382
00:43:25.404 --> 00:43:30.607
I'm going to rephrase my question to dig even deeper into your brain.

1383
00:43:31.810 --> 00:43:40.998
Tell me something about President Trump's personality that people don't see that really shows how much he cares for—

1384
00:43:41.321 --> 00:43:43.364
holding the position of president of the United States?

1385
00:43:43.503 --> 00:43:45.145
He is incredibly charismatic.

1386
00:43:45.223 --> 00:43:45.786
And by the way,

1387
00:43:45.927 --> 00:43:47.489
I've met plenty of Democratic politicians.

1388
00:43:47.567 --> 00:43:48.048
So are they.

1389
00:43:48.708 --> 00:43:48.970
You know,

1390
00:43:49.192 --> 00:43:50.552
you think about the DNA of a politician.

1391
00:43:50.747 --> 00:43:55.098
Trump is a unicorn in that he doesn't fit into the stereotype that I'm about to make,

1392
00:43:55.614 --> 00:43:57.138
which is that most politicians,

1393
00:43:57.302 --> 00:43:57.614
most,

1394
00:43:58.114 --> 00:43:59.755
you and I can both pinpoint exceptions,

1395
00:43:59.802 --> 00:44:00.192
fair enough.

1396
00:44:00.302 --> 00:44:01.677
But most politicians,

1397
00:44:01.942 --> 00:44:02.895
maybe they went to law school,

1398
00:44:02.942 --> 00:44:04.661
but they were never smart enough to pass the bar.

1399
00:44:04.723 --> 00:44:06.005
And if they were smart enough to pass the bar,

1400
00:44:06.020 --> 00:44:07.208
they never would own their own practice.

1401
00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:08.505
They might have gone to medical school,

1402
00:44:08.848 --> 00:44:10.489
but they were never going to become a top surgeon.

1403
00:44:10.781 --> 00:44:11.782
They might have started their own business,

1404
00:44:11.783 --> 00:44:13.083
but they never made super real money.

1405
00:44:13.564 --> 00:44:17.167
Politicians are largely people who have charisma,

1406
00:44:17.546 --> 00:44:18.390
can speak well,

1407
00:44:19.066 --> 00:44:20.949
enjoy the ability to network with one another,

1408
00:44:21.074 --> 00:44:22.074
but frankly,

1409
00:44:22.230 --> 00:44:30.167
kind of lack the talent to do something super meaningful on a professional level outside of sharing rhetoric and then voting along their party lines.

1410
00:44:31.167 --> 00:44:34.902
I know that's sort of a brute take on the average politician.

1411
00:44:35.473 --> 00:44:37.776
But the average politician is worthy of that take.

1412
00:44:37.798 --> 00:44:41.886
And that's why many of them get phased out every two to four years when it's time to run for reelection.

1413
00:44:42.046 --> 00:44:44.725
And the other thing about politics is no matter who you are,

1414
00:44:45.608 --> 00:44:46.272
the night you win.

1415
00:44:46.776 --> 00:44:47.016
You go,

1416
00:44:47.076 --> 00:44:48.177
you have a glass of champagne,

1417
00:44:48.338 --> 00:44:49.159
you dance in a tux,

1418
00:44:49.299 --> 00:44:51.522
and the next morning you start campaigning for re-election,

1419
00:44:51.561 --> 00:44:51.979
basically.

1420
00:44:52.061 --> 00:44:52.901
Every way you vote,

1421
00:44:52.964 --> 00:44:53.764
everything you say,

1422
00:44:53.901 --> 00:44:55.221
every podcast you go on,

1423
00:44:55.682 --> 00:44:57.628
all of it is in service to continuing your career.

1424
00:44:59.667 --> 00:45:00.526
Trump is not that.

1425
00:45:00.768 --> 00:45:01.807
Trump doesn't need this,

1426
00:45:02.151 --> 00:45:02.409
right?

1427
00:45:02.612 --> 00:45:04.792
Trump is incredibly charismatic.

1428
00:45:04.995 --> 00:45:05.932
He's very personable.

1429
00:45:06.479 --> 00:45:13.495
And I think something that you'll always notice when you meet smart people is that you put them in front of a camera and you start asking them questions.

1430
00:45:13.924 --> 00:45:14.884
They dominate the conversation.

1431
00:45:14.905 --> 00:45:15.284
They talk.

1432
00:45:15.405 --> 00:45:16.844
No different than you and I are right now.

1433
00:45:17.164 --> 00:45:18.703
But you and I have spent enough time in private.

1434
00:45:19.203 --> 00:45:22.610
I spent enough time with the president in private to be able to say,

1435
00:45:22.649 --> 00:45:24.227
this is a guy that asks questions.

1436
00:45:24.266 --> 00:45:24.906
He's curious.

1437
00:45:24.907 --> 00:45:25.727
He wants to learn.

1438
00:45:26.086 --> 00:45:31.953
Because that's what will then influence him to sound smart or whatever it is when he goes and speaks on camera.

1439
00:45:31.985 --> 00:45:35.281
So I think that you get a guy who's a lot more reserved.

1440
00:45:35.485 --> 00:45:36.531
You get a guy who's eager to learn.

1441
00:45:36.656 --> 00:45:41.031
You get a guy that you could not spend 15 seconds in a room with him without being like,

1442
00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:42.453
this guy's really charismatic.

1443
00:45:42.469 --> 00:45:43.250
There's a reason why

1444
00:45:43.792 --> 00:45:44.052
You know,

1445
00:45:44.573 --> 00:45:49.439
all these people who go on Twitter or go on CNN and they just rip into him.

1446
00:45:49.978 --> 00:45:53.920
Then they go see him in the Oval Office and they have one of those shots that shows the live press conference.

1447
00:45:53.921 --> 00:45:54.740
And they are just sitting there.

1448
00:45:55.380 --> 00:45:56.584
I was in the Oval Office with the president.

1449
00:45:56.585 --> 00:45:56.865
Bill Maher.

1450
00:45:57.185 --> 00:45:57.365
Yeah.

1451
00:45:57.849 --> 00:45:58.404
And they love it.

1452
00:45:59.029 --> 00:46:00.623
Bill Maher is a perfect example of that.

1453
00:46:03.310 --> 00:46:04.607
That is true to his character.

1454
00:46:04.638 --> 00:46:05.060
And by the way,

1455
00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:06.560
probably was true about Bill Clinton's,

1456
00:46:06.716 --> 00:46:06.935
right?

1457
00:46:06.998 --> 00:46:07.154
Like,

1458
00:46:07.248 --> 00:46:07.498
I mean,

1459
00:46:07.499 --> 00:46:09.420
it was true about anybody that's gotten to that level.

1460
00:46:09.498 --> 00:46:11.232
There's one president of the United States for a reason.

1461
00:46:11.498 --> 00:46:12.576
Not a simple place to get.

1462
00:46:14.288 --> 00:46:16.451
But he cares about the people he's talking to.

1463
00:46:16.890 --> 00:46:17.150
I mean,

1464
00:46:17.832 --> 00:46:20.896
I'll give you a really soft example of this.

1465
00:46:21.955 --> 00:46:23.236
Some Raiders players wanted to meet him,

1466
00:46:23.455 --> 00:46:24.478
and he was in Las Vegas.

1467
00:46:24.634 --> 00:46:30.962
So I helped set up Max Crosby and Alex Bachman and Gardner Minshew to go meet him at the Trump Tower.

1468
00:46:31.744 --> 00:46:35.041
And Trump's about to walk in the room where they're all waiting in front of the American flags like,

1469
00:46:35.072 --> 00:46:35.416
okay,

1470
00:46:35.556 --> 00:46:37.134
here comes the president of the United States.

1471
00:46:37.775 --> 00:46:38.447
They're all excited,

1472
00:46:38.666 --> 00:46:39.259
and they're nervous.

1473
00:46:39.494 --> 00:46:41.650
These guys that make $20 million a year slamming each other,

1474
00:46:41.697 --> 00:46:42.681
they're nervous to meet a

1475
00:46:43.181 --> 00:46:43.681
78-year-old man.

1476
00:46:44.929 --> 00:46:45.169
I mean,

1477
00:46:45.209 --> 00:46:45.349
right,

1478
00:46:45.369 --> 00:46:45.790
fundamentally,

1479
00:46:45.791 --> 00:46:47.812
it's an interesting thing.

1480
00:46:49.031 --> 00:46:50.214
And we're in the hallway and he says,

1481
00:46:50.613 --> 00:46:51.316
tell me who's in there.

1482
00:46:51.996 --> 00:46:52.835
Tell him the three names.

1483
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:53.078
Oh,

1484
00:46:53.093 --> 00:46:53.937
I know Max Crosby.

1485
00:46:53.938 --> 00:46:55.117
I've met him at UFC.

1486
00:46:55.460 --> 00:46:56.242
He's a good player.

1487
00:46:57.140 --> 00:46:57.718
Gardner Minshew,

1488
00:46:57.742 --> 00:46:58.359
I'm not familiar.

1489
00:46:58.360 --> 00:46:59.585
And I'm telling him about Gardner.

1490
00:46:59.960 --> 00:47:00.289
And he says,

1491
00:47:00.290 --> 00:47:00.398
well,

1492
00:47:00.445 --> 00:47:00.945
is he good?

1493
00:47:01.007 --> 00:47:01.257
I said,

1494
00:47:01.258 --> 00:47:01.507
yeah,

1495
00:47:01.508 --> 00:47:01.679
you know,

1496
00:47:03.570 --> 00:47:05.523
this is going to be his first season starting for the Raiders.

1497
00:47:05.617 --> 00:47:06.273
Didn't go so well,

1498
00:47:06.289 --> 00:47:06.929
but fair enough.

1499
00:47:07.023 --> 00:47:08.007
He didn't know that at the time.

1500
00:47:08.008 --> 00:47:08.929
It was in the offseason.

1501
00:47:09.632 --> 00:47:10.367
Where did he go to school?

1502
00:47:10.554 --> 00:47:11.039
I'm telling him.

1503
00:47:12.179 --> 00:47:13.164
Does he throw a long ball?

1504
00:47:14.020 --> 00:47:14.901
He's an NFL quarterback.

1505
00:47:15.321 --> 00:47:16.723
He like opens the door to the room,

1506
00:47:16.823 --> 00:47:17.563
swings it open,

1507
00:47:17.643 --> 00:47:18.745
Secret Service opens it for him.

1508
00:47:19.065 --> 00:47:19.725
And he comes,

1509
00:47:19.866 --> 00:47:20.987
does his classic thing,

1510
00:47:21.045 --> 00:47:21.206
right?

1511
00:47:21.229 --> 00:47:22.292
They're standing by the window.

1512
00:47:22.385 --> 00:47:23.549
They got the American flags there.

1513
00:47:23.550 --> 00:47:23.831
And he goes,

1514
00:47:24.674 --> 00:47:26.010
now this is a guy with a big arm.

1515
00:47:26.088 --> 00:47:26.315
I mean,

1516
00:47:26.651 --> 00:47:29.557
first thing that comes out of his mouth is he wants to make you feel good.

1517
00:47:29.558 --> 00:47:30.252
It sounds funny,

1518
00:47:30.331 --> 00:47:31.299
but that's who he is,

1519
00:47:31.596 --> 00:47:31.877
you know?

1520
00:47:32.862 --> 00:47:36.721
And you talk about a guy who's doing that for 19 hours a day,

1521
00:47:37.487 --> 00:47:38.424
whether it's from Washington,

1522
00:47:38.425 --> 00:47:38.643
D.C.

1523
00:47:38.768 --> 00:47:39.690
or on the campaign trail,

1524
00:47:39.706 --> 00:47:40.143
on the plane,

1525
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:40.721
whatever it is.

1526
00:47:41.444 --> 00:47:45.009
There's nobody that ever gets around him where he doesn't care about making him feel good.

1527
00:47:45.108 --> 00:47:46.829
It's why when sometimes he starts speaking,

1528
00:47:46.989 --> 00:47:47.848
have you ever noticed this?

1529
00:47:47.891 --> 00:47:52.934
There will be times where he is giving a speech and then all of a sudden he sees someone in the crowd and he acknowledges them.

1530
00:47:54.075 --> 00:47:57.083
Teleprompter basically may as well not exist any longer.

1531
00:47:57.278 --> 00:48:00.942
And he starts naming off lots of people in the audience to make them feel good.

1532
00:48:01.630 --> 00:48:03.161
He knows I'm the president of the United States.

1533
00:48:03.208 --> 00:48:04.989
He's self-aware enough to realize that.

1534
00:48:05.286 --> 00:48:08.551
And how cool is it if this president of the United States says something about you and you and you and you?

1535
00:48:08.864 --> 00:48:10.145
You could say it's a little bit narcissistic.

1536
00:48:11.148 --> 00:48:11.488
Screw that.

1537
00:48:11.669 --> 00:48:15.012
What a gift it is to be acknowledged by the president of the United States.

1538
00:48:15.270 --> 00:48:15.614
If you don't,

1539
00:48:15.794 --> 00:48:16.294
and by the way,

1540
00:48:16.434 --> 00:48:20.520
if you're the kind of person that says it's not a gift to be acknowledged by the president of the United States,

1541
00:48:21.137 --> 00:48:22.442
feel free to expatriate.

1542
00:48:22.497 --> 00:48:22.661
Feel,

1543
00:48:22.801 --> 00:48:22.958
feel,

1544
00:48:23.020 --> 00:48:23.262
I mean,

1545
00:48:23.520 --> 00:48:24.325
you have options.

1546
00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:25.505
No one's forcing you to stay here,

1547
00:48:25.661 --> 00:48:27.137
but this is the greatest country in the world.

1548
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:28.387
He's the leader of it.

1549
00:48:29.419 --> 00:48:31.122
There ought to be a level of respect for that.

1550
00:48:32.856 --> 00:48:34.512
It is amazing to me,

1551
00:48:36.934 --> 00:48:37.934
the whole fascist thing,

1552
00:48:38.731 --> 00:48:39.856
which no one's opened up a book.

1553
00:48:40.084 --> 00:48:41.846
about Mussolini or Hitler if they're calling

1554
00:48:42.206 --> 00:48:43.006
Trump a fascist?

1555
00:48:43.348 --> 00:48:44.149
Define fascist,

1556
00:48:44.227 --> 00:48:44.407
right?

1557
00:48:44.669 --> 00:48:44.887
I mean,

1558
00:48:45.290 --> 00:48:47.290
that really should be the first question anybody's saying that.

1559
00:48:48.032 --> 00:48:48.915
Define the word for me.

1560
00:48:48.969 --> 00:48:51.258
Let's just get on an even playing field here.

1561
00:48:51.352 --> 00:48:52.196
You call him a fascist,

1562
00:48:52.197 --> 00:48:52.954
you call him a racist,

1563
00:48:52.955 --> 00:48:53.618
you call him Hitler,

1564
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:54.274
right?

1565
00:48:54.837 --> 00:48:55.782
Define these people for me,

1566
00:48:56.477 --> 00:48:56.696
right?

1567
00:48:56.758 --> 00:48:56.993
I mean,

1568
00:48:57.649 --> 00:48:59.602
Charlie used to make the great analogy when people would say,

1569
00:48:59.837 --> 00:49:00.477
Trump is Hitler.

1570
00:49:00.962 --> 00:49:01.212
Why?

1571
00:49:01.290 --> 00:49:02.118
Because he has a dog?

1572
00:49:02.383 --> 00:49:03.102
Hitler had a dog.

1573
00:49:03.649 --> 00:49:03.883
I mean,

1574
00:49:04.508 --> 00:49:04.680
why?

1575
00:49:04.743 --> 00:49:06.337
Because he's in charge of...

1576
00:49:06.338 --> 00:49:06.493
I mean,

1577
00:49:07.383 --> 00:49:07.633
okay.

1578
00:49:08.227 --> 00:49:08.368
Why?

1579
00:49:08.399 --> 00:49:08.977
Because he's male?

1580
00:49:09.080 --> 00:49:10.361
He has the same chromosomes as him.

1581
00:49:10.441 --> 00:49:10.682
I mean,

1582
00:49:11.101 --> 00:49:11.303
right?

1583
00:49:11.342 --> 00:49:13.123
So define what this even means,

1584
00:49:13.185 --> 00:49:15.646
because people just throw these words around that

1585
00:49:16.248 --> 00:49:17.611
I genuinely believe 99%

1586
00:49:17.705 --> 00:49:18.393
don't know what it means.

1587
00:49:18.394 --> 00:49:18.908
And the 1%

1588
00:49:19.330 --> 00:49:22.713
that feel like they know what it means and throw it around and then try and justify it anyways,

1589
00:49:23.752 --> 00:49:26.502
they've probably just had quite a liberal arts education.

1590
00:49:26.533 --> 00:49:28.143
They've probably gone to a fancy school.

1591
00:49:28.455 --> 00:49:29.799
And so they know what to say,

1592
00:49:30.721 --> 00:49:32.127
but it's rooted.

1593
00:49:32.439 --> 00:49:34.971
The problem with these arguments is it's rooted in a lie.

1594
00:49:35.439 --> 00:49:36.643
It's the reason why Trump won.

1595
00:49:36.861 --> 00:49:38.674
It's the reason why he won the popular vote and everything else.

1596
00:49:38.988 --> 00:49:40.309
It was a situation,

1597
00:49:40.409 --> 00:49:43.571
this last go around of truth versus dishonesty.

1598
00:49:43.852 --> 00:49:47.556
107 days of propaganda on one side and just a,

1599
00:49:47.837 --> 00:49:49.001
do you guys want wars?

1600
00:49:49.821 --> 00:49:54.266
Are you guys serious about letting 25 or 30 million people here illegally every four years?

1601
00:49:54.641 --> 00:49:54.884
I mean,

1602
00:49:55.212 --> 00:49:56.352
it's one thing to have immigration.

1603
00:49:56.890 --> 00:50:03.398
I don't know why Republicans have gotten this impression from the left that they're against immigration.

1604
00:50:03.816 --> 00:50:04.078
I mean,

1605
00:50:04.257 --> 00:50:07.281
Republicans are the most pro-immigration.

1606
00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:09.906
In terms of putting America first,

1607
00:50:09.921 --> 00:50:11.742
they're the most pro-immigration party by far.

1608
00:50:11.828 --> 00:50:16.546
Because if you let criminals in here who are bringing in drugs and killing our people and adding to homelessness and everything else,

1609
00:50:17.343 --> 00:50:19.937
how is that helping a single citizen who voted for you?

1610
00:50:22.609 --> 00:50:22.921
So no,

1611
00:50:23.312 --> 00:50:23.562
I mean,

1612
00:50:23.578 --> 00:50:24.453
I just think there's...

1613
00:50:25.174 --> 00:50:26.755
There's elements of the argument that are flawed,

1614
00:50:26.974 --> 00:50:27.214
right?

1615
00:50:27.294 --> 00:50:27.575
I mean,

1616
00:50:27.915 --> 00:50:30.274
and then you can make the same argument about what is a woman,

1617
00:50:30.594 --> 00:50:30.856
you know?

1618
00:50:31.036 --> 00:50:31.255
I mean,

1619
00:50:31.376 --> 00:50:31.997
all these things,

1620
00:50:31.998 --> 00:50:32.477
the fascist,

1621
00:50:32.478 --> 00:50:32.755
the woman,

1622
00:50:32.774 --> 00:50:33.317
the transgender,

1623
00:50:33.318 --> 00:50:33.614
the this,

1624
00:50:33.615 --> 00:50:34.012
the that.

1625
00:50:35.036 --> 00:50:35.997
And the problem is,

1626
00:50:36.333 --> 00:50:37.536
is that it's weird.

1627
00:50:37.677 --> 00:50:38.036
It's like,

1628
00:50:38.458 --> 00:50:39.497
I don't know how this happened.

1629
00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:40.161
I truthfully don't.

1630
00:50:40.473 --> 00:50:43.723
This is actually the thing I'm actively trying to learn about the last

1631
00:50:44.583 --> 00:50:45.395
30-ish years of,

1632
00:50:45.614 --> 00:50:47.161
call it American politics or history.

1633
00:50:47.973 --> 00:50:48.958
How did the Republicans,

1634
00:50:49.177 --> 00:50:49.395
you know,

1635
00:50:49.427 --> 00:50:50.786
you think if you're going to have two parties,

1636
00:50:50.817 --> 00:50:53.895
you kind of want to divvy up good arguments for both sides.

1637
00:50:54.005 --> 00:50:54.786
so that way there's a...

1638
00:50:55.062 --> 00:50:55.862
reason to make a decision.

1639
00:50:56.382 --> 00:50:57.663
I look at it and I almost say to myself,

1640
00:50:58.022 --> 00:50:59.864
how the Republicans get to have all these stances?

1641
00:51:00.223 --> 00:51:04.301
The Democrats have to actually counteract themselves to even have their stances.

1642
00:51:04.364 --> 00:51:05.028
For example,

1643
00:51:05.505 --> 00:51:06.044
what is woman?

1644
00:51:08.106 --> 00:51:09.528
And then you get in the transgender thing.

1645
00:51:09.989 --> 00:51:10.762
What about science?

1646
00:51:10.786 --> 00:51:11.723
Isn't it just X,

1647
00:51:11.864 --> 00:51:12.489
Y chromosome?

1648
00:51:12.926 --> 00:51:13.067
Well,

1649
00:51:13.161 --> 00:51:13.286
no,

1650
00:51:13.489 --> 00:51:14.333
because it's how you feel.

1651
00:51:14.661 --> 00:51:15.551
But then at the same time,

1652
00:51:15.661 --> 00:51:18.067
they're the ones advocating about climate change.

1653
00:51:18.301 --> 00:51:19.801
And you have to respect the science.

1654
00:51:19.802 --> 00:51:20.864
You have to respect the science.

1655
00:51:21.395 --> 00:51:22.926
Science doesn't count when it comes to gender.

1656
00:51:23.750 --> 00:51:29.995
So they have to contradict themselves to such a level that intelligent people see through it.

1657
00:51:30.276 --> 00:51:31.898
And it's nice to know that more than 51%

1658
00:51:31.921 --> 00:51:33.062
of the country is intelligent.

1659
00:51:34.538 --> 00:51:38.163
What do you think is going to happen for the midterms with the direction that we're going right now?

1660
00:51:42.523 --> 00:51:43.366
It's going to be interesting.

1661
00:51:44.194 --> 00:51:45.069
I think that,

1662
00:51:45.726 --> 00:51:45.991
I mean,

1663
00:51:46.085 --> 00:51:46.460
it's weird.

1664
00:51:46.461 --> 00:51:47.616
You look at like polls and stuff,

1665
00:51:47.835 --> 00:51:50.679
and it seems like the Democrats are going to have a strong showing in

1666
00:51:53.178 --> 00:51:54.360
Maybe I'm stuck in the echo chamber.

1667
00:51:54.399 --> 00:51:56.602
I can't figure out what that's predicated on.

1668
00:51:57.163 --> 00:51:57.401
You know,

1669
00:51:57.561 --> 00:52:00.166
Trump has the highest approval rating he's had in either term.

1670
00:52:01.526 --> 00:52:03.690
Most people are making more money right now.

1671
00:52:03.885 --> 00:52:04.807
Unemployment is down.

1672
00:52:04.909 --> 00:52:05.870
Interest rates are coming down.

1673
00:52:06.010 --> 00:52:07.049
The border crossings are down.

1674
00:52:07.151 --> 00:52:07.870
Crime is down.

1675
00:52:07.971 --> 00:52:08.651
Homelessness is down.

1676
00:52:08.690 --> 00:52:08.893
I mean,

1677
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.456
what statistic would contribute to

1678
00:52:12.315 --> 00:52:15.284
Democrats being able to show that they need to have a resurgence?

1679
00:52:15.315 --> 00:52:15.487
Now,

1680
00:52:16.268 --> 00:52:21.987
the one thing that gives them a little help is a lot of the seats that are actually up are their seats.

1681
00:52:23.864 --> 00:52:24.643
But that being said,

1682
00:52:24.784 --> 00:52:25.385
I think that

1683
00:52:25.825 --> 00:52:26.487
I put it this way,

1684
00:52:26.706 --> 00:52:28.749
whatever the polls say they're going to perform right now,

1685
00:52:28.967 --> 00:52:30.190
you could quote this.

1686
00:52:30.370 --> 00:52:34.092
I guarantee you they will massively underperform whatever it says is going to exist right now.

1687
00:52:34.616 --> 00:52:35.913
Because the other thing you have to keep in mind,

1688
00:52:35.952 --> 00:52:36.131
too,

1689
00:52:36.319 --> 00:52:41.944
is Trump's approval has climbed and climbed and climbed since he got inaugurated on January

1690
00:52:42.303 --> 00:52:45.022
20th. That means there's another year and a half of climbing to happen.

1691
00:52:45.897 --> 00:52:47.210
And that's what you're going to be fighting against.

1692
00:52:47.211 --> 00:52:48.288
The other problem is,

1693
00:52:48.913 --> 00:52:49.131
is.

1694
00:52:49.494 --> 00:52:51.036
When you talk about congressional races,

1695
00:52:51.055 --> 00:52:52.157
when you talk about the campaigning,

1696
00:52:52.237 --> 00:52:53.137
congressional races,

1697
00:52:53.178 --> 00:52:53.778
Senate races,

1698
00:52:53.817 --> 00:52:54.598
these kinds of things,

1699
00:52:55.418 --> 00:52:58.247
you need to be able to draw a crowd so these people can get name recognition.

1700
00:52:58.504 --> 00:53:04.192
Whoever's going to win any of these races that are local-ish races are typically the people that have the most name recognition.

1701
00:53:04.770 --> 00:53:05.411
It's almost,

1702
00:53:05.778 --> 00:53:07.575
in any race that's not

1703
00:53:07.934 --> 00:53:10.231
70-30 and it's basically a done deal anyways,

1704
00:53:10.278 --> 00:53:10.450
right?

1705
00:53:10.451 --> 00:53:11.590
The actual close races,

1706
00:53:11.653 --> 00:53:13.559
name recognition will usually get the job done.

1707
00:53:14.184 --> 00:53:14.293
Well,

1708
00:53:14.294 --> 00:53:15.043
so how do you do that?

1709
00:53:15.075 --> 00:53:15.918
For the Republicans,

1710
00:53:16.293 --> 00:53:18.184
Trump's going to go around and he's going to campaign.

1711
00:53:18.602 --> 00:53:19.683
and he's going to be doing rallies.

1712
00:53:19.684 --> 00:53:21.485
So 40,000 people are going to come here,

1713
00:53:21.585 --> 00:53:22.065
these like,

1714
00:53:22.948 --> 00:53:23.206
you know,

1715
00:53:23.249 --> 00:53:27.452
these district three candidates giving speeches and stuff like that.

1716
00:53:28.194 --> 00:53:30.374
Who is the crowd draw for the Democrats?

1717
00:53:30.397 --> 00:53:31.975
Who's the leader of that party?

1718
00:53:32.514 --> 00:53:33.858
They don't overly have one.

1719
00:53:33.859 --> 00:53:36.585
What's Bernie and AOC?

1720
00:53:36.866 --> 00:53:36.975
Well,

1721
00:53:37.006 --> 00:53:37.741
and I was right now,

1722
00:53:37.742 --> 00:53:41.350
and the ones that they do don't represent the majority of the Democratic Party.

1723
00:53:41.351 --> 00:53:42.944
The majority of the Democratic Party is,

1724
00:53:43.303 --> 00:53:43.694
you know what?

1725
00:53:43.772 --> 00:53:44.600
I was born Democrat.

1726
00:53:44.631 --> 00:53:45.553
I was raised a Democrat.

1727
00:53:45.944 --> 00:53:46.897
My parents voted for Kennedy.

1728
00:53:47.414 --> 00:53:48.294
I voted for Clinton.

1729
00:53:48.894 --> 00:53:49.155
You know,

1730
00:53:50.274 --> 00:53:51.354
I was okay with Obama,

1731
00:53:51.655 --> 00:53:51.893
you know,

1732
00:53:51.916 --> 00:53:52.815
or I really liked him,

1733
00:53:52.874 --> 00:53:53.456
the whole thing.

1734
00:53:54.995 --> 00:53:56.635
They're not down for this.

1735
00:53:57.213 --> 00:53:57.479
You know,

1736
00:53:57.752 --> 00:54:00.760
there's three or four states in this country that are down for this socialist stuff.

1737
00:54:01.456 --> 00:54:02.213
And by the way,

1738
00:54:02.916 --> 00:54:10.604
every single candidate running on the Republican side and probably some smart ones on the Democratic side are going to point at those candidates in those four states.

1739
00:54:10.605 --> 00:54:12.698
They're going to point at how mismanaged these states are.

1740
00:54:12.699 --> 00:54:14.432
They're going to point at how the crime rates are the highest.

1741
00:54:14.463 --> 00:54:16.401
They're going to point at how immigration is still the worst.

1742
00:54:16.622 --> 00:54:20.165
They're going to point at how taxes have gone up when every other place in the country has gone down.

1743
00:54:20.606 --> 00:54:21.247
And they're going to say,

1744
00:54:21.688 --> 00:54:22.427
if you vote for this,

1745
00:54:22.489 --> 00:54:23.106
that's what you get.

1746
00:54:24.450 --> 00:54:25.388
In exchange for what?

1747
00:54:25.513 --> 00:54:30.333
In exchange for someone whose rhetoric sounds a little bit better to your heart.

1748
00:54:31.099 --> 00:54:32.419
Why does it sound better to your heart?

1749
00:54:32.435 --> 00:54:34.356
Is there any truth to what they're actually telling you?

1750
00:54:34.919 --> 00:54:35.466
People forget.

1751
00:54:35.467 --> 00:54:35.638
I mean,

1752
00:54:35.653 --> 00:54:35.888
Roe v.

1753
00:54:35.935 --> 00:54:37.403
Wade got overturned when the Supreme Court,

1754
00:54:37.435 --> 00:54:37.716
House,

1755
00:54:37.841 --> 00:54:38.169
Senate,

1756
00:54:38.200 --> 00:54:39.231
and presidency was blue.

1757
00:54:39.778 --> 00:54:40.903
So to vote for that issue,

1758
00:54:41.685 --> 00:54:42.528
it's one of those things where,

1759
00:54:42.606 --> 00:54:42.810
again,

1760
00:54:43.106 --> 00:54:43.231
I'm,

1761
00:54:43.403 --> 00:54:43.716
by the way.

1762
00:54:44.487 --> 00:54:45.248
I'm pro-choice.

1763
00:54:45.389 --> 00:54:45.929
So to me,

1764
00:54:46.191 --> 00:54:46.572
that's not,

1765
00:54:46.972 --> 00:54:47.132
look,

1766
00:54:47.212 --> 00:54:48.695
I'm not Christian Catholic.

1767
00:54:49.855 --> 00:54:51.097
I don't have the pro-life argument.

1768
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:51.558
Of course,

1769
00:54:51.559 --> 00:54:53.480
you could sit there and debate the semesters and the whole thing.

1770
00:54:53.980 --> 00:54:55.464
Not particularly an issue that I would do.

1771
00:54:57.040 --> 00:55:00.021
But I think there's a couple of fundamental issues with that being the anchor point.

1772
00:55:00.662 --> 00:55:04.939
The transgender argument that the Republicans had of the men and women's sports,

1773
00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:11.181
that resonated as just the perfect example of stupidity to more than half this country.

1774
00:55:11.283 --> 00:55:12.103
Are you kidding me?

1775
00:55:12.205 --> 00:55:16.119
A biological male competing against women and changing in their locker rooms?

1776
00:55:16.759 --> 00:55:17.588
Because you might say,

1777
00:55:17.589 --> 00:55:17.697
well,

1778
00:55:17.698 --> 00:55:18.869
their intention is they're really a woman.

1779
00:55:19.384 --> 00:55:24.900
But what happens the one time one of those people's intentions to be a total pervert and you okayed it and condoned it?

1780
00:55:25.548 --> 00:55:27.250
voted for it the way that you voted for it,

1781
00:55:29.092 --> 00:55:30.073
that resonated with people.

1782
00:55:30.854 --> 00:55:33.315
The abortion thing's harder because they say they don't want to lay up abortions.

1783
00:55:33.316 --> 00:55:34.498
They're never going to have access to it.

1784
00:55:35.334 --> 00:55:37.701
There are so many nonprofits in this country that if,

1785
00:55:37.741 --> 00:55:38.319
God forbid,

1786
00:55:38.381 --> 00:55:38.639
Roe v.

1787
00:55:38.701 --> 00:55:39.584
Wade got over,

1788
00:55:40.162 --> 00:55:41.123
as a result of Roe v.

1789
00:55:41.162 --> 00:55:41.991
Wade being overturned,

1790
00:55:42.100 --> 00:55:43.959
your state then also voted to ban abortion.

1791
00:55:44.287 --> 00:55:46.022
You have to cross state lines to get an abortion.

1792
00:55:46.647 --> 00:55:46.850
These

1793
00:55:47.256 --> 00:55:50.506
Democrats talk about it in these really ambiguous,

1794
00:55:51.209 --> 00:55:52.491
just fluff terms of

1795
00:55:53.112 --> 00:55:56.394
Most people don't have access to cross state lines anymore and all these things.

1796
00:55:56.496 --> 00:56:01.742
There are billions of dollars in nonprofits that would more than happily send.

1797
00:56:01.781 --> 00:56:01.984
I mean,

1798
00:56:02.039 --> 00:56:02.305
literally,

1799
00:56:02.306 --> 00:56:05.945
there are nonprofits designed to make sure that every human being has access to abortion that wants one.

1800
00:56:06.187 --> 00:56:09.305
It's also legal in basically every state in this country anyways.

1801
00:56:09.695 --> 00:56:13.039
And so your argument is losing.

1802
00:56:13.055 --> 00:56:13.617
And by the way,

1803
00:56:13.836 --> 00:56:15.148
most people don't want abortions.

1804
00:56:15.367 --> 00:56:17.351
There's a small part of,

1805
00:56:17.398 --> 00:56:17.711
frankly,

1806
00:56:17.773 --> 00:56:21.773
my age group that has decided that an abortion is the equivalent of a condom,

1807
00:56:21.961 --> 00:56:22.383
basically.

1808
00:56:22.928 --> 00:56:23.228
Um,

1809
00:56:23.569 --> 00:56:26.112
and that I actually fundamentally disagree with.

1810
00:56:26.131 --> 00:56:26.791
I think like,

1811
00:56:26.852 --> 00:56:27.114
you know,

1812
00:56:27.813 --> 00:56:28.473
Charlie used to say,

1813
00:56:28.672 --> 00:56:29.395
play stupid games,

1814
00:56:29.434 --> 00:56:30.336
win stupid prizes.

1815
00:56:30.337 --> 00:56:31.176
Um,

1816
00:56:31.379 --> 00:56:31.614
and I,

1817
00:56:31.661 --> 00:56:31.918
and I,

1818
00:56:31.957 --> 00:56:33.176
and I do think that that's right.

1819
00:56:33.379 --> 00:56:33.582
Right.

1820
00:56:33.621 --> 00:56:33.739
Like,

1821
00:56:33.762 --> 00:56:35.520
I don't think you should just be killing things because,

1822
00:56:35.582 --> 00:56:35.723
well,

1823
00:56:35.724 --> 00:56:36.762
what about my life?

1824
00:56:36.786 --> 00:56:37.442
What about like,

1825
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:38.301
what about your,

1826
00:56:38.325 --> 00:56:38.746
what about that?

1827
00:56:38.747 --> 00:56:39.301
What about their life?

1828
00:56:39.348 --> 00:56:39.489
Right.

1829
00:56:39.490 --> 00:56:40.223
You can make that argument,

1830
00:56:40.270 --> 00:56:42.582
but I'm not particularly interested in making those arguments,

1831
00:56:42.848 --> 00:56:44.770
but that's the problem is neither is most of the country.

1832
00:56:45.067 --> 00:56:46.067
So they vote right right now.

1833
00:56:47.114 --> 00:56:48.098
I think that,

1834
00:56:48.598 --> 00:56:49.676
and this happened yesterday,

1835
00:56:50.192 --> 00:56:51.723
over 10,000 people at Ole Miss.

1836
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:53.721
to see Erica Kirk and J.D.

1837
00:56:53.841 --> 00:56:54.381
Vance speak.

1838
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:59.562
I was blown away that you have a sitting vice president riffing,

1839
00:56:59.883 --> 00:57:00.719
taking questions.

1840
00:57:01.523 --> 00:57:02.141
He's amazing.

1841
00:57:02.625 --> 00:57:02.844
I mean,

1842
00:57:02.922 --> 00:57:03.523
love him or hate him,

1843
00:57:03.984 --> 00:57:04.742
he's got game.

1844
00:57:05.305 --> 00:57:06.805
That man can think on his feet.

1845
00:57:06.859 --> 00:57:07.906
He's well-spoken.

1846
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:08.859
He's passionate.

1847
00:57:10.250 --> 00:57:11.687
Everything I've seen about him is just like,

1848
00:57:11.719 --> 00:57:11.891
check,

1849
00:57:11.922 --> 00:57:12.078
check,

1850
00:57:12.109 --> 00:57:12.266
check,

1851
00:57:12.281 --> 00:57:12.437
check,

1852
00:57:12.469 --> 00:57:12.609
check,

1853
00:57:12.641 --> 00:57:12.766
check,

1854
00:57:12.797 --> 00:57:12.969
check.

1855
00:57:13.266 --> 00:57:13.828
And then Erica,

1856
00:57:13.859 --> 00:57:14.062
I mean,

1857
00:57:14.109 --> 00:57:14.687
beforehand,

1858
00:57:14.750 --> 00:57:15.469
Erica comes out and,

1859
00:57:15.484 --> 00:57:15.703
I mean,

1860
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.109
forget it,

1861
00:57:16.203 --> 00:57:16.437
please.

1862
00:57:16.484 --> 00:57:16.703
I mean,

1863
00:57:16.704 --> 00:57:17.687
that's just game over.

1864
00:57:18.641 --> 00:57:18.859
And-

1865
00:57:19.784 --> 00:57:21.365
I'm watching the long game of all this.

1866
00:57:21.466 --> 00:57:23.068
I know nothing about TPUSA.

1867
00:57:23.207 --> 00:57:23.869
I'm a fan.

1868
00:57:24.928 --> 00:57:25.650
We've talked about,

1869
00:57:25.689 --> 00:57:27.170
I'd love to get involved and help them out.

1870
00:57:27.615 --> 00:57:28.553
But man,

1871
00:57:28.631 --> 00:57:38.678
you long game that with that generation and you start replicating those type of events over and over and over and over again,

1872
00:57:39.350 --> 00:57:42.334
the goddamn midterms will be done.

1873
00:57:43.006 --> 00:57:43.990
I'll be a fait accompli.

1874
00:57:44.240 --> 00:57:48.959
It's game over because you have people who are speaking.

1875
00:57:49.520 --> 00:57:51.983
With facts and with Erica,

1876
00:57:52.303 --> 00:57:55.846
who literally is channeling Charlie when she's talking,

1877
00:57:56.366 --> 00:58:01.835
is unbelievable to pack rooms of kids who most of these kids are used to doing this.

1878
00:58:02.210 --> 00:58:02.452
Yeah.

1879
00:58:02.453 --> 00:58:03.171
And all of them go,

1880
00:58:04.132 --> 00:58:05.139
I'm not going to be on my phone.

1881
00:58:05.140 --> 00:58:05.999
I'm going to listen to you,

1882
00:58:06.624 --> 00:58:06.936
Erica.

1883
00:58:06.999 --> 00:58:07.764
I'm going to listen to you,

1884
00:58:08.014 --> 00:58:08.296
JD.

1885
00:58:08.764 --> 00:58:11.342
I want to ask you questions that I've been thinking about.

1886
00:58:12.124 --> 00:58:12.249
Oh,

1887
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:12.936
my God.

1888
00:58:13.608 --> 00:58:13.749
Oh,

1889
00:58:14.077 --> 00:58:15.092
my God.

1890
00:58:15.530 --> 00:58:18.749
And that gives me hope in the future of this country.

1891
00:58:19.652 --> 00:58:20.352
It's the turning point.

1892
00:58:20.573 --> 00:58:20.992
Yes,

1893
00:58:21.532 --> 00:58:22.193
that they are.

1894
00:58:22.792 --> 00:58:23.052
I mean,

1895
00:58:23.173 --> 00:58:23.493
again,

1896
00:58:23.993 --> 00:58:29.552
I love the idea of how with tactical precision,

1897
00:58:30.052 --> 00:58:32.036
they're going into colleges and just,

1898
00:58:32.193 --> 00:58:32.458
I mean,

1899
00:58:32.974 --> 00:58:34.677
I'd be replicating that at least once a month,

1900
00:58:35.357 --> 00:58:35.880
at least.

1901
00:58:36.443 --> 00:58:37.990
And to get- They do it a lot more than once a month.

1902
00:58:38.318 --> 00:58:38.911
And to get like,

1903
00:58:38.974 --> 00:58:39.240
you know,

1904
00:58:39.458 --> 00:58:40.161
to get Tucker,

1905
00:58:40.224 --> 00:58:40.521
to get

1906
00:58:41.099 --> 00:58:45.443
A-level people to come speak who can think on their feet and go,

1907
00:58:45.661 --> 00:58:46.255
you've got a question,

1908
00:58:46.302 --> 00:58:46.630
come on up.

1909
00:58:47.148 --> 00:58:48.229
It doesn't matter who you are,

1910
00:58:48.289 --> 00:58:48.670
what you do,

1911
00:58:48.750 --> 00:58:49.631
your beliefs and all that.

1912
00:58:49.632 --> 00:58:50.711
You'll be treated with respect.

1913
00:58:51.192 --> 00:58:54.035
You won't get shouted down or yelled at.

1914
00:58:55.274 --> 00:58:56.000
Look at Antifa.

1915
00:58:56.094 --> 00:58:56.899
Give me a break,

1916
00:58:57.461 --> 00:58:58.156
please.

1917
00:58:59.539 --> 00:59:03.258
It is something that it gives me hope in the future of America,

1918
00:59:03.649 --> 00:59:05.320
what TPUSA is doing.

1919
00:59:06.086 --> 00:59:08.695
And do you think they're onto something?

1920
00:59:08.914 --> 00:59:09.055
Well,

1921
00:59:09.836 --> 00:59:11.633
you said it gives you hope for the future of America.

1922
00:59:11.695 --> 00:59:14.102
What TPUSA is doing is what America.

1923
00:59:14.312 --> 00:59:16.575
is and has always been and will continue to be.

1924
00:59:17.134 --> 00:59:24.743
It's a country of free speech and of dialogue and competing ideas that can be discussed peacefully and maybe a sway somebody,

1925
00:59:24.806 --> 00:59:25.446
maybe you don't,

1926
00:59:25.462 --> 00:59:28.009
but you get to express your opinion and then life goes on.

1927
00:59:29.525 --> 00:59:34.868
So I think they are fulfilling the promise that our founding fathers made 250 years ago.

1928
00:59:34.900 --> 00:59:40.071
And this is what it looks like in 2025 compared to what it looked like in 1776.

1929
00:59:40.912 --> 00:59:41.573
I think that,

1930
00:59:42.313 --> 00:59:42.613
you know,

1931
00:59:42.994 --> 00:59:43.135
look,

1932
00:59:43.136 --> 00:59:43.676
at the end of the day,

1933
00:59:43.775 --> 00:59:48.059
Charlie used to go from campus to campus speaking in amphitheaters and quads to 1,000,

1934
00:59:48.098 --> 00:59:48.660
2,000,

1935
00:59:48.680 --> 00:59:49.598
3,000 kids.

1936
00:59:50.043 --> 00:59:52.707
Now you've got the vice president speaking to 10,000 in an arena.

1937
00:59:53.160 --> 00:59:53.566
Everybody,

1938
00:59:54.184 --> 00:59:54.488
you know,

1939
00:59:54.902 --> 00:59:56.426
said that if nothing else,

1940
00:59:56.449 --> 00:59:58.754
this guy's a martyr and he didn't die for nothing.

1941
01:00:00.207 --> 01:00:01.754
His death probably was the turning point.

1942
01:00:02.332 --> 01:00:02.691
Granted,

1943
01:00:02.832 --> 01:00:06.957
I think he was probably only a year or two away from filling those arenas up by himself anyways.

1944
01:00:06.958 --> 01:00:07.457
I agree.

1945
01:00:07.458 --> 01:00:08.160
But nonetheless.

1946
01:00:09.160 --> 01:00:10.640
So it's other people that are filling him up.

1947
01:00:11.380 --> 01:00:12.361
And right now,

1948
01:00:12.500 --> 01:00:14.183
they may be doing so out of saying,

1949
01:00:15.101 --> 01:00:16.320
we're doing this in honor of Charlie,

1950
01:00:16.321 --> 01:00:17.160
and this is his legacy,

1951
01:00:17.300 --> 01:00:18.183
and this is what we want to do.

1952
01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:20.222
But it's more than that.

1953
01:00:20.402 --> 01:00:21.722
This is America's legacy.

1954
01:00:21.863 --> 01:00:24.839
Charlie was just a really good vocator of that.

1955
01:00:25.011 --> 01:00:27.230
And now other people are taking his place.

1956
01:00:27.527 --> 01:00:30.199
And they're not doing it by way of trying to replace him.

1957
01:00:30.339 --> 01:00:31.089
They're their own people.

1958
01:00:31.152 --> 01:00:32.027
J.D.'s his own person.

1959
01:00:32.449 --> 01:00:33.121
So is Erica.

1960
01:00:33.183 --> 01:00:33.964
So is Megyn Kelly.

1961
01:00:34.027 --> 01:00:36.027
So is all these people that they're having do this.

1962
01:00:36.604 --> 01:00:39.485
but the students are receptive to it because if nothing else,

1963
01:00:39.544 --> 01:00:42.306
students on college campuses are there to be students.

1964
01:00:42.845 --> 01:00:44.345
And what a better opportunity to learn.

1965
01:00:44.524 --> 01:00:45.544
There's no better opportunity to learn,

1966
01:00:45.747 --> 01:00:46.130
excuse me,

1967
01:00:47.044 --> 01:00:48.708
than having these kinds of people come to your campus.

1968
01:00:48.950 --> 01:00:54.388
I dropped out my freshman year because I had someone come to my college campus and speak about personal branding.

1969
01:00:54.794 --> 01:00:57.622
They were a personal branding expert and they had 6,000 followers on Instagram.

1970
01:00:57.623 --> 01:00:58.825
It was very lackluster.

1971
01:00:59.888 --> 01:01:04.903
If I went to Ole Miss and I wanted to go listen to politics and they had the sitting vice president come there,

1972
01:01:04.997 --> 01:01:06.216
I might've been a college graduate.

1973
01:01:06.976 --> 01:01:07.998
I think it's an amazing,

1974
01:01:08.017 --> 01:01:10.718
amazing thing that Turning Point is doing for young people.

1975
01:01:11.480 --> 01:01:18.929
It is giving a voice to people that I think were being neglected for a long time,

1976
01:01:19.406 --> 01:01:20.250
to that generation.

1977
01:01:20.773 --> 01:01:20.890
Well,

1978
01:01:20.891 --> 01:01:21.875
there's a reason they didn't vote.

1979
01:01:22.414 --> 01:01:22.953
They didn't vote.

1980
01:01:22.954 --> 01:01:24.297
They didn't feel like their voice counted.

1981
01:01:24.375 --> 01:01:24.859
Happily.

1982
01:01:25.140 --> 01:01:25.250
Yeah,

1983
01:01:25.251 --> 01:01:27.468
they didn't really know what their vote would have been anyways.

1984
01:01:27.500 --> 01:01:28.640
They didn't care to learn about it.

1985
01:01:28.703 --> 01:01:29.906
It wasn't brought to them.

1986
01:01:31.047 --> 01:01:31.859
They were discarded.

1987
01:01:32.125 --> 01:01:32.343
And

1988
01:01:32.765 --> 01:01:35.547
Charlie said the problem with discarding someone to 18 to 24.

1989
01:01:35.756 --> 01:01:38.798
is they look like Zoran Mamdani at 33.

1990
01:01:39.380 --> 01:01:42.603
And Turning Point is set up to prevent that from happening.

1991
01:01:42.642 --> 01:01:42.864
I mean,

1992
01:01:43.403 --> 01:01:50.208
I watched firsthand as I got the luxury of getting to see Charlie in action from time to time on campuses in person.

1993
01:01:50.747 --> 01:01:51.028
I mean,

1994
01:01:51.778 --> 01:01:59.185
these kids would get four years of liberal arts indoctrination slammed into their skulls and in an hour he unwound all of it.

1995
01:01:59.716 --> 01:01:59.935
And,

1996
01:02:00.153 --> 01:02:00.466
you know,

1997
01:02:00.607 --> 01:02:00.841
I mean,

1998
01:02:00.842 --> 01:02:02.763
2020 to 2024.

1999
01:02:03.256 --> 01:02:06.660
young men 18 to 24 moved 44 points.

2000
01:02:07.902 --> 01:02:08.863
Just 18 to 24,

2001
01:02:09.281 --> 01:02:09.844
just men,

2002
01:02:10.285 --> 01:02:11.465
44 points.

2003
01:02:12.082 --> 01:02:14.949
And you could say that's because everybody became a fan of Charlie and fair enough,

2004
01:02:14.988 --> 01:02:19.887
but he was the orator that was leading that charge in that ground game.

2005
01:02:19.949 --> 01:02:20.137
But

2006
01:02:20.715 --> 01:02:23.418
Turning Point is designed to allow that to continue.

2007
01:02:23.933 --> 01:02:24.480
And you see it,

2008
01:02:24.496 --> 01:02:25.152
it already is.

2009
01:02:25.215 --> 01:02:25.418
I mean,

2010
01:02:25.433 --> 01:02:28.762
you just had the vice president go to an open mic on a college campus.

2011
01:02:29.246 --> 01:02:29.777
Show me that.

2012
01:02:30.020 --> 01:02:30.380
Nevermind,

2013
01:02:30.381 --> 01:02:31.381
show me that on Democratic Party.

2014
01:02:31.401 --> 01:02:33.124
They'll never do it because it's not scripted enough.

2015
01:02:33.204 --> 01:02:35.186
But show me that on the right.

2016
01:02:35.225 --> 01:02:35.885
Show me that during,

2017
01:02:36.186 --> 01:02:38.831
where was Mike Pence doing that in 17?

2018
01:02:39.065 --> 01:02:39.331
You know,

2019
01:02:39.346 --> 01:02:39.573
I mean,

2020
01:02:40.049 --> 01:02:40.534
these weren't,

2021
01:02:40.971 --> 01:02:43.112
this wasn't a way that politics worked.

2022
01:02:43.471 --> 01:02:46.831
But now you have a youth population that is pretty well informed.

2023
01:02:47.003 --> 01:02:50.081
And the ones that aren't have a real desire to get more informed.

2024
01:02:50.534 --> 01:02:51.768
A more informed country,

2025
01:02:52.065 --> 01:02:54.721
really good sign for the future of our electorate.

2026
01:02:54.909 --> 01:02:55.159
You know,

2027
01:02:55.221 --> 01:02:55.565
because,

2028
01:02:55.799 --> 01:02:56.549
and here's the other thing too,

2029
01:02:56.550 --> 01:02:57.284
everybody always says,

2030
01:02:57.331 --> 01:02:57.471
well,

2031
01:02:57.816 --> 01:02:58.717
Maybe you grew up Democrat,

2032
01:02:58.757 --> 01:02:59.518
maybe you grew up Republican,

2033
01:02:59.557 --> 01:02:59.817
whatever.

2034
01:03:00.339 --> 01:03:01.759
By the time you own your house,

2035
01:03:02.020 --> 01:03:03.821
pride and ownership move you to the right.

2036
01:03:04.161 --> 01:03:06.626
By the time you're paying taxes and seeing that come out of your check,

2037
01:03:06.665 --> 01:03:08.126
you'll move to the right and all these things.

2038
01:03:08.665 --> 01:03:08.790
Well,

2039
01:03:08.805 --> 01:03:09.665
as they make that move,

2040
01:03:10.024 --> 01:03:13.430
they'll be doing so with real information because I do think naturally that will happen.

2041
01:03:14.227 --> 01:03:25.165
I think one of the biggest reasons why you have so many young people that have been so left over the last few years is we've been trying to convince them to participate in a system that has stopped applying to them.

2042
01:03:25.649 --> 01:03:25.930
you know,

2043
01:03:26.368 --> 01:03:26.587
yes,

2044
01:03:26.649 --> 01:03:27.227
America is a

2045
01:03:27.696 --> 01:03:28.737
as a country of capitalism.

2046
01:03:28.896 --> 01:03:36.056
But when you look at the last five years and the age group that bought the most homes in this country was 50 to 65,

2047
01:03:36.517 --> 01:03:37.954
that is a fundamental problem.

2048
01:03:38.040 --> 01:03:38.556
And of course,

2049
01:03:38.557 --> 01:03:40.337
they're not going to vote to keep that system going,

2050
01:03:40.783 --> 01:03:40.978
right?

2051
01:03:41.056 --> 01:03:42.197
So how do you explain to them that,

2052
01:03:42.220 --> 01:03:42.337
no,

2053
01:03:42.338 --> 01:03:42.376
no,

2054
01:03:42.377 --> 01:03:42.501
no,

2055
01:03:42.837 --> 01:03:43.900
the system isn't failing you.

2056
01:03:44.415 --> 01:03:52.525
The college degree that put you $250,000 in debt and then spit out no job is what's failing you and gave you all the ideas that actually it's capitalism that's failing you,

2057
01:03:52.540 --> 01:03:52.728
right?

2058
01:03:53.103 --> 01:03:56.978
These are things that have to be debunked and discussed and

2059
01:03:57.184 --> 01:03:57.905
and debated.

2060
01:03:58.546 --> 01:04:02.890
But that is why you have a lot of what you have going on in New York.

2061
01:04:02.929 --> 01:04:03.190
I mean,

2062
01:04:03.890 --> 01:04:05.296
New York is a city of renters.

2063
01:04:05.772 --> 01:04:09.397
It's a city of people with massive piles of debt.

2064
01:04:09.835 --> 01:04:11.335
And you're saying to them,

2065
01:04:12.858 --> 01:04:15.015
don't vote for the guy who's trying to give you free buses.

2066
01:04:15.765 --> 01:04:16.218
Tough sell.

2067
01:04:16.499 --> 01:04:16.702
Really,

2068
01:04:16.749 --> 01:04:17.327
really tough sell,

2069
01:04:17.343 --> 01:04:19.843
especially when the other guy is the worst governor in the state's history.

2070
01:04:19.983 --> 01:04:20.733
Very tough sell.

2071
01:04:21.030 --> 01:04:24.577
And so you're going to have the 33-year-old who can't give you free buses get elected instead.

2072
01:04:25.076 --> 01:04:26.258
Do you think there's going to be a mass,

2073
01:04:26.458 --> 01:04:27.240
regarding New York City,

2074
01:04:27.281 --> 01:04:28.523
and I used to live there.

2075
01:04:28.843 --> 01:04:29.263
Me too.

2076
01:04:29.264 --> 01:04:30.685
I have great friends that are there,

2077
01:04:31.005 --> 01:04:31.146
right?

2078
01:04:31.165 --> 01:04:31.607
So you know.

2079
01:04:32.990 --> 01:04:39.642
Do you think there's going to be just a mass exodus of high net worth and ultra high net worth folks out of?

2080
01:04:40.145 --> 01:04:40.585
New York City?

2081
01:04:40.826 --> 01:04:41.247
Candidly,

2082
01:04:41.327 --> 01:04:41.446
no.

2083
01:04:42.448 --> 01:04:44.028
I think that that's the threat right now,

2084
01:04:44.450 --> 01:04:45.911
but I don't actually believe that will happen.

2085
01:04:46.172 --> 01:04:49.036
I think that is a very similar threat to saying if Kamala wins,

2086
01:04:49.051 --> 01:04:50.114
people are going to expatriate.

2087
01:04:50.575 --> 01:04:51.676
Still the greatest country in the world.

2088
01:04:51.715 --> 01:04:52.981
New York's still one of the top cities.

2089
01:04:53.317 --> 01:04:53.481
Now,

2090
01:04:53.895 --> 01:04:54.981
you're going to get pickpocketed more,

2091
01:04:55.223 --> 01:04:55.700
for sure.

2092
01:04:56.043 --> 01:04:57.426
You're going to get punched on the subway,

2093
01:04:57.676 --> 01:04:58.208
for sure.

2094
01:04:58.348 --> 01:04:59.926
You are going to live in a less safe city,

2095
01:05:00.161 --> 01:05:01.489
and you're going to pay more to do so.

2096
01:05:01.708 --> 01:05:02.786
But are you really good?

2097
01:05:02.787 --> 01:05:02.942
I mean,

2098
01:05:03.254 --> 01:05:07.098
to change your entire housing is just not a thing that people do with real speed.

2099
01:05:07.411 --> 01:05:08.286
And at the same time,

2100
01:05:09.141 --> 01:05:10.662
Let's see this guy get reelected.

2101
01:05:10.822 --> 01:05:11.443
I'd be shocked.

2102
01:05:12.023 --> 01:05:12.164
Now,

2103
01:05:12.443 --> 01:05:16.307
do I think New York's going to move right and elect a Republican as the next mayor?

2104
01:05:16.568 --> 01:05:16.689
No.

2105
01:05:17.049 --> 01:05:24.697
But do I think Mamdani's term lasts any longer than this first go around when basically none of his promises are fulfilled and everything gets worse in the city?

2106
01:05:24.853 --> 01:05:25.853
Probably not.

2107
01:05:26.322 --> 01:05:29.541
I also think that he's a guy that will spin that like Gavin into,

2108
01:05:29.619 --> 01:05:29.775
well,

2109
01:05:29.822 --> 01:05:31.010
maybe I wasn't successful in the city,

2110
01:05:31.041 --> 01:05:32.010
but how about give me a state?

2111
01:05:32.557 --> 01:05:33.869
And then maybe one day he'll say,

2112
01:05:33.900 --> 01:05:34.025
well,

2113
01:05:34.041 --> 01:05:34.760
I screwed up the city.

2114
01:05:34.822 --> 01:05:36.588
Then I screwed up the state and then I'll run for president.

2115
01:05:36.603 --> 01:05:37.963
And then he'll be like Gavin Jr.

2116
01:05:38.525 --> 01:05:38.785
Um,

2117
01:05:39.006 --> 01:05:39.606
but no,

2118
01:05:39.826 --> 01:05:39.947
I,

2119
01:05:40.127 --> 01:05:40.246
I,

2120
01:05:41.367 --> 01:05:41.489
no,

2121
01:05:41.668 --> 01:05:43.248
I don't think that many people are actually going to move.

2122
01:05:43.311 --> 01:05:44.412
I think the really,

2123
01:05:44.530 --> 01:05:50.018
really ultra wealthy already have second homes in Florida and pay taxes as a resident in Florida anyways.

2124
01:05:50.057 --> 01:05:50.338
I mean,

2125
01:05:50.877 --> 01:05:50.994
no,

2126
01:05:51.299 --> 01:05:51.416
I,

2127
01:05:51.494 --> 01:05:52.822
I do think that's a sort of a,

2128
01:05:53.237 --> 01:05:53.479
uh,

2129
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:54.619
an empty-ish threat.

2130
01:05:55.197 --> 01:05:55.447
Um,

2131
01:05:55.979 --> 01:05:56.963
but I guess we'll see.

2132
01:05:56.979 --> 01:05:57.166
I mean,

2133
01:05:57.182 --> 01:05:58.541
Wall Street's where it is for a reason.

2134
01:05:59.041 --> 01:06:07.572
I wonder what Jamie Diamond's thinking right now because JP Morgan Chase just opened up their like giant new headquarters or that massive multi-billion dollar building.

2135
01:06:08.205 --> 01:06:08.605
And it's like,

2136
01:06:08.766 --> 01:06:08.886
oh,

2137
01:06:09.366 --> 01:06:09.686
shit.

2138
01:06:10.989 --> 01:06:12.528
Businesses have ebbs and flows.

2139
01:06:12.770 --> 01:06:14.610
Yeah.

2140
01:06:14.833 --> 01:06:17.036
So he's going to open it and they're going to have a flow.

2141
01:06:17.231 --> 01:06:18.114
That's all that's going to happen.

2142
01:06:18.278 --> 01:06:18.458
J.B.

2143
01:06:18.551 --> 01:06:19.895
Morgan Chase has been around plenty long.

2144
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:21.520
They'll survive Zoran Mamdani.

2145
01:06:21.942 --> 01:06:22.661
They'll be fine.

2146
01:06:22.997 --> 01:06:23.739
But I just thought when

2147
01:06:24.122 --> 01:06:26.020
I remember that came out a couple weeks ago.

2148
01:06:26.379 --> 01:06:28.442
They had the ribbon cutting and there's Jamie Dimon.

2149
01:06:28.458 --> 01:06:28.770
I'm like,

2150
01:06:29.333 --> 01:06:31.473
how much does he wish that this was in Miami right now?

2151
01:06:31.989 --> 01:06:33.571
with everything that's going on.

2152
01:06:34.252 --> 01:06:35.112
Can we call the Avengers?

2153
01:06:35.113 --> 01:06:38.334
Just pick the building up and bring it to fucking Miami and stick it there,

2154
01:06:38.397 --> 01:06:38.655
please.

2155
01:06:38.694 --> 01:06:39.518
Ron DeSantis would be like,

2156
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:40.076
come on.

2157
01:06:40.194 --> 01:06:40.741
He'd love it.

2158
01:06:40.795 --> 01:06:41.756
Come on.

2159
01:06:43.178 --> 01:06:44.764
I want to ask you a little bit about,

2160
01:06:44.765 --> 01:06:51.983
because you're friends with Erica Kirk and you posted some wonderful photos of when Charlie received the,

2161
01:06:53.623 --> 01:06:54.436
not the Congressional Medal,

2162
01:06:54.530 --> 01:06:55.358
the Presidential

2163
01:06:56.092 --> 01:06:56.717
Medal of Freedom.

2164
01:06:58.170 --> 01:06:59.311
And your pictures were so cool.

2165
01:06:59.420 --> 01:07:01.061
And I caught you on,

2166
01:07:01.533 --> 01:07:02.534
like you were on Fox.

2167
01:07:02.535 --> 01:07:02.774
I'm like,

2168
01:07:02.775 --> 01:07:03.215
is this you?

2169
01:07:03.335 --> 01:07:04.997
I took a video of you.

2170
01:07:05.538 --> 01:07:06.499
You were there at the back.

2171
01:07:06.500 --> 01:07:06.757
I'm like,

2172
01:07:07.038 --> 01:07:07.440
wait a minute.

2173
01:07:07.460 --> 01:07:09.561
That was him next to the picture of the auto pen.

2174
01:07:09.843 --> 01:07:10.319
And it was you,

2175
01:07:10.343 --> 01:07:11.179
which was hilarious.

2176
01:07:12.600 --> 01:07:14.202
Where do you see?

2177
01:07:14.249 --> 01:07:15.850
Because I personally,

2178
01:07:15.890 --> 01:07:17.475
like I've never lost a spouse.

2179
01:07:17.804 --> 01:07:18.429
I lost my mom.

2180
01:07:19.038 --> 01:07:21.647
And I still process that grief all the time.

2181
01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:23.054
She raised me as a single mom.

2182
01:07:23.694 --> 01:07:25.679
And so there isn't a day that goes by I don't think of her.

2183
01:07:25.944 --> 01:07:27.116
I was there when she passed away.

2184
01:07:29.077 --> 01:07:29.897
It's for her.

2185
01:07:29.898 --> 01:07:30.658
I think Erica,

2186
01:07:30.878 --> 01:07:31.438
my opinion,

2187
01:07:31.778 --> 01:07:35.258
is still an immense amount of grief that she is coping with.

2188
01:07:35.579 --> 01:07:38.200
And she's masking it by going and speaking and doing all this stuff,

2189
01:07:38.215 --> 01:07:38.942
which is wonderful.

2190
01:07:39.637 --> 01:07:41.598
I think it's therapeutic for her to do that.

2191
01:07:43.379 --> 01:07:46.926
Where do you see her taking turning point,

2192
01:07:47.286 --> 01:07:54.067
but also still managing the grief and coping with the grief of the loss of her husband?

2193
01:07:54.848 --> 01:07:57.176
I don't think there's masking on one hand and then...

2194
01:07:57.697 --> 01:07:59.478
and then coping and grieving on the other.

2195
01:07:59.959 --> 01:08:02.621
I think that if you knew Charlie Kirk,

2196
01:08:02.683 --> 01:08:05.086
Charlie Kirk poured everything that he was,

2197
01:08:05.265 --> 01:08:05.789
of course,

2198
01:08:05.906 --> 01:08:07.265
into his faith and family first,

2199
01:08:07.328 --> 01:08:07.789
fair enough,

2200
01:08:08.625 --> 01:08:09.726
but into Turning Point.

2201
01:08:09.851 --> 01:08:10.086
I mean,

2202
01:08:10.312 --> 01:08:12.390
16 hours a day was Turning Point.

2203
01:08:12.414 --> 01:08:12.648
Granted,

2204
01:08:12.711 --> 01:08:12.969
actually,

2205
01:08:13.031 --> 01:08:14.430
Charlie was someone who liked to sleep a lot,

2206
01:08:14.539 --> 01:08:15.648
but nonetheless,

2207
01:08:15.851 --> 01:08:16.133
I mean,

2208
01:08:17.398 --> 01:08:21.726
Erica's got the unique opportunity now of really immersing herself in her husband's brain.

2209
01:08:22.023 --> 01:08:26.523
She's got all the journals where he wrote everything every single day of how to do things and what he was thinking.

2210
01:08:26.570 --> 01:08:26.773
I mean,

2211
01:08:27.265 --> 01:08:30.349
Her office has become his office at the Turning Point headquarters.

2212
01:08:30.708 --> 01:08:32.310
She won't sit in his chair behind the desk.

2213
01:08:32.311 --> 01:08:34.533
She only sits on his green couch on the right side of the room.

2214
01:08:35.833 --> 01:08:41.396
But she has a unique opportunity where she can stay connected to him at all times because of what her now role is.

2215
01:08:41.662 --> 01:08:41.880
I mean,

2216
01:08:41.881 --> 01:08:42.599
you think about,

2217
01:08:42.943 --> 01:08:43.544
I think about,

2218
01:08:43.638 --> 01:08:43.888
you know,

2219
01:08:43.904 --> 01:08:44.435
my relationship,

2220
01:08:44.466 --> 01:08:47.826
I think about my mom or I think about my uncle or someone like you who's married.

2221
01:08:48.826 --> 01:08:48.951
If,

2222
01:08:49.685 --> 01:08:50.201
God forbid,

2223
01:08:50.263 --> 01:08:51.748
something happens to your spouse,

2224
01:08:52.716 --> 01:08:53.263
how do you ever...

2225
01:08:53.425 --> 01:08:56.308
put yourself in their shoes and really connect with them so deep.

2226
01:08:56.408 --> 01:09:00.150
It's part of why people grieve for the rest of their lives when they experience loss,

2227
01:09:00.193 --> 01:09:01.552
because you really,

2228
01:09:02.357 --> 01:09:06.201
you can never get that back and you can never experience those same moments.

2229
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:07.396
Erica can,

2230
01:09:07.701 --> 01:09:08.381
has the luxury of,

2231
01:09:08.443 --> 01:09:11.787
she can actually experience all those same moments now because of the role that he left for her.

2232
01:09:11.788 --> 01:09:14.240
And I think that's probably why he left it for her above all else.

2233
01:09:14.521 --> 01:09:15.412
She is brilliant.

2234
01:09:15.927 --> 01:09:17.631
She's extremely conservative,

2235
01:09:17.662 --> 01:09:18.584
extremely religious.

2236
01:09:18.646 --> 01:09:20.209
She's all the things that he was,

2237
01:09:20.224 --> 01:09:21.740
which is why they were such great partners.

2238
01:09:24.345 --> 01:09:26.887
But it was also probably a gift to her to say,

2239
01:09:27.969 --> 01:09:29.610
it's going to be okay and I'm still with you.

2240
01:09:30.352 --> 01:09:30.571
I mean,

2241
01:09:30.572 --> 01:09:34.375
we talk about it when she's unsure of what to do in the business,

2242
01:09:34.438 --> 01:09:37.797
she goes to her roof and she talks to Charlie.

2243
01:09:37.821 --> 01:09:38.836
Unique thing to be able to do.

2244
01:09:38.922 --> 01:09:40.508
Most people that are grieving don't get to do that.

2245
01:09:41.196 --> 01:09:42.102
And there's something that,

2246
01:09:42.258 --> 01:09:43.180
I don't mean to cut you off.

2247
01:09:44.024 --> 01:09:45.086
I didn't take my Adderall today,

2248
01:09:45.087 --> 01:09:46.914
so I've got to let it go or else I'll forget it.

2249
01:09:47.446 --> 01:09:47.727
is

2250
01:09:48.664 --> 01:09:49.586
I love that.

2251
01:09:50.372 --> 01:09:52.675
Erica isn't the,

2252
01:09:52.995 --> 01:09:53.136
oh,

2253
01:09:53.315 --> 01:09:54.196
feel bad for me.

2254
01:09:54.675 --> 01:09:57.038
I'm wearing all black and I'm in mourning and all that.

2255
01:09:57.120 --> 01:09:57.300
It's,

2256
01:09:58.261 --> 01:10:01.901
I have such a strong bond with my husband.

2257
01:10:02.323 --> 01:10:03.308
I'm still talking to him.

2258
01:10:03.667 --> 01:10:03.808
Yeah,

2259
01:10:04.144 --> 01:10:05.690
and she'll be with him again one day soon.

2260
01:10:05.886 --> 01:10:06.605
Exactly.

2261
01:10:06.886 --> 01:10:08.792
And so that part,

2262
01:10:08.870 --> 01:10:09.730
I get goosebumps.

2263
01:10:09.823 --> 01:10:11.620
I love that,

2264
01:10:11.808 --> 01:10:14.870
that this is something that she knows her role.

2265
01:10:15.683 --> 01:10:19.105
She is doubling down on her relationship with her husband.

2266
01:10:20.108 --> 01:10:21.850
She talks to him all day long,

2267
01:10:22.150 --> 01:10:22.751
all the time,

2268
01:10:23.431 --> 01:10:24.610
and she knows he's listening.

2269
01:10:24.634 --> 01:10:27.114
And then she just listens and feels prompts back,

2270
01:10:27.153 --> 01:10:28.634
I assume is what you would do.

2271
01:10:29.118 --> 01:10:31.860
And that she knows what he's saying because she knows him so well,

2272
01:10:31.861 --> 01:10:34.821
because he told her everything.

2273
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:36.298
And that's like,

2274
01:10:36.626 --> 01:10:37.439
when I tell my friends,

2275
01:10:37.440 --> 01:10:38.298
when they first get married,

2276
01:10:38.360 --> 01:10:39.892
like my wife's my best friend.

2277
01:10:40.173 --> 01:10:41.423
She knows everything.

2278
01:10:41.517 --> 01:10:44.095
I have no secrets with my wife.

2279
01:10:44.470 --> 01:10:45.657
You sleep easier that way.

2280
01:10:46.267 --> 01:10:48.189
You stay married a lot longer when you do that.

2281
01:10:48.720 --> 01:10:49.064
If not.

2282
01:10:49.472 --> 01:10:53.693
This little thing festers and gets bigger and bigger and lying is exhausting.

2283
01:10:54.455 --> 01:10:55.795
Hiding stuff is exhausting.

2284
01:10:55.834 --> 01:10:56.732
I know for a fact.

2285
01:10:57.310 --> 01:11:03.537
So the fact that she had such a bond with Charlie,

2286
01:11:04.373 --> 01:11:05.388
like that it was like,

2287
01:11:05.701 --> 01:11:06.591
here's my journals.

2288
01:11:06.779 --> 01:11:07.529
You get everything.

2289
01:11:07.591 --> 01:11:08.451
I'm telling you everything.

2290
01:11:08.452 --> 01:11:09.795
And not only am I telling you everything,

2291
01:11:10.295 --> 01:11:18.513
I'm leaving written word as evidence of what I was feeling and doing during certain moments of my life for you to take.

2292
01:11:20.465 --> 01:11:20.905
Oh,

2293
01:11:21.765 --> 01:11:22.005
she's,

2294
01:11:22.204 --> 01:11:23.204
she's very lucky.

2295
01:11:23.446 --> 01:11:23.684
You know,

2296
01:11:23.685 --> 01:11:23.884
I mean,

2297
01:11:23.903 --> 01:11:24.704
I think something,

2298
01:11:25.364 --> 01:11:29.548
something that I think anybody who knew Charlie for any period of time has said is,

2299
01:11:30.485 --> 01:11:31.048
of course,

2300
01:11:31.509 --> 01:11:33.470
this is just been horrific,

2301
01:11:33.665 --> 01:11:44.392
but how lucky was anyone that got to spend five seconds with him that they got to how lucky was Erica that she got to be that person that he loved and that she got to love back and everything.

2302
01:11:44.423 --> 01:11:44.548
And,

2303
01:11:44.549 --> 01:11:44.751
you know,

2304
01:11:44.813 --> 01:11:44.970
look,

2305
01:11:44.985 --> 01:11:45.188
I mean,

2306
01:11:45.189 --> 01:11:45.688
at the end of the day,

2307
01:11:46.329 --> 01:11:47.392
she's 36 years old.

2308
01:11:47.548 --> 01:11:47.907
She has

2309
01:11:48.632 --> 01:11:48.872
you know,

2310
01:11:49.373 --> 01:11:49.913
knock on wood,

2311
01:11:50.174 --> 01:11:51.856
the rest of her life in front of her.

2312
01:11:52.496 --> 01:11:53.776
And it's going to be,

2313
01:11:53.777 --> 01:11:54.237
you know,

2314
01:11:54.436 --> 01:11:54.576
it'll,

2315
01:11:54.658 --> 01:11:54.877
it'll,

2316
01:11:54.878 --> 01:11:55.600
it never goes away.

2317
01:11:55.639 --> 01:11:55.858
I mean,

2318
01:11:55.940 --> 01:11:58.342
it'd be silly to say that that kind of thing ever goes away,

2319
01:11:59.022 --> 01:12:00.264
but she,

2320
01:12:01.022 --> 01:12:01.287
you know,

2321
01:12:01.326 --> 01:12:01.483
look,

2322
01:12:01.506 --> 01:12:02.569
you talk about business,

2323
01:12:02.787 --> 01:12:03.865
you talk about family type,

2324
01:12:03.904 --> 01:12:04.545
all these things.

2325
01:12:05.342 --> 01:12:07.233
What is the thing that ultimately drives you,

2326
01:12:07.623 --> 01:12:07.826
right?

2327
01:12:07.936 --> 01:12:08.873
That's got to be your motivator.

2328
01:12:08.904 --> 01:12:10.451
What makes that way at the end of a long day,

2329
01:12:10.467 --> 01:12:11.373
you're not exhausted.

2330
01:12:11.498 --> 01:12:12.029
You're grateful.

2331
01:12:12.483 --> 01:12:13.061
You know what I I mean,

2332
01:12:13.076 --> 01:12:14.123
it's what you brought up earlier.

2333
01:12:14.733 --> 01:12:15.936
She's got the greatest.

2334
01:12:16.420 --> 01:12:22.467
Sense of motivation and focus that I could imagine being bestowed on a human being in the history of this country

2335
01:12:23.529 --> 01:12:24.927
She recognizes that burden.

2336
01:12:25.427 --> 01:12:26.146
She loves it.

2337
01:12:26.490 --> 01:12:32.802
She doesn't get exhausted She sure grieves but also loves the opportunity.

2338
01:12:32.881 --> 01:12:34.599
She has to continue Charlie's mission,

2339
01:12:35.006 --> 01:12:35.162
right?

2340
01:12:35.256 --> 01:12:37.287
I mean if something happened to you,

2341
01:12:38.381 --> 01:12:39.037
god forbid

2342
01:12:40.349 --> 01:12:42.521
Brandi probably isn't taking over Fargo talk.

2343
01:12:42.522 --> 01:12:42.646
No,

2344
01:12:42.740 --> 01:12:43.381
she's a nurse

2345
01:12:46.206 --> 01:12:53.191
And that is the uniqueness that I think gives Erica the strength that the country has seen her demonstrate every single time she's spoken.

2346
01:12:53.675 --> 01:13:02.941
It's a wonderful testament to a solid marriage and a solid relationship that

2347
01:13:04.128 --> 01:13:06.081
Charlie Kirk wasn't bulletproof,

2348
01:13:06.581 --> 01:13:07.660
but his marriage was.

2349
01:13:09.691 --> 01:13:11.753
And the fact that...

2350
01:13:13.572 --> 01:13:18.576
His wife now can carry on with this.

2351
01:13:19.619 --> 01:13:20.458
Like you talked about,

2352
01:13:21.240 --> 01:13:22.361
I get hit by a bus tomorrow.

2353
01:13:22.517 --> 01:13:23.158
This is all done.

2354
01:13:23.783 --> 01:13:24.181
This is all,

2355
01:13:24.244 --> 01:13:25.720
everything I put into it is done.

2356
01:13:26.244 --> 01:13:27.126
My wife's a nurse.

2357
01:13:27.423 --> 01:13:28.626
I wouldn't expect her to do this.

2358
01:13:30.267 --> 01:13:33.689
The odds on having your spouse be,

2359
01:13:33.767 --> 01:13:34.236
first of all,

2360
01:13:34.298 --> 01:13:35.126
probably smarter than you,

2361
01:13:37.330 --> 01:13:37.658
you know,

2362
01:13:38.314 --> 01:13:40.736
and it's always the quiet ones that you got to be careful for.

2363
01:13:40.944 --> 01:13:47.048
And erica kirk strikes me as like one of the quiet ones in the room That's always like watching people and watching things that are going on right and

2364
01:13:47.892 --> 01:13:56.743
To have that like charlie hit the powerball mega million lottery of wives and it was a horrific thing that happened horrific

2365
01:13:57.743 --> 01:14:04.150
However, it has just grown that you know to have 10 000 people seven weeks

2366
01:14:04.665 --> 01:14:09.431
After he you know after he's assassinated to have 10 000 people in a you know

2367
01:14:09.752 --> 01:14:10.112
college,

2368
01:14:10.453 --> 01:14:10.693
you know,

2369
01:14:10.773 --> 01:14:17.579
auditorium and she's speaking with the vice president of the United States and there's a line like they're to turn people away,

2370
01:14:17.759 --> 01:14:18.142
I heard.

2371
01:14:18.478 --> 01:14:18.603
Yeah.

2372
01:14:18.798 --> 01:14:19.462
Oh my God.

2373
01:14:19.860 --> 01:14:20.665
Oh my God,

2374
01:14:20.743 --> 01:14:21.025
Blake.

2375
01:14:21.204 --> 01:14:24.009
And so it to me gives people,

2376
01:14:24.064 --> 01:14:24.243
again,

2377
01:14:24.267 --> 01:14:25.704
like I'm older and you think,

2378
01:14:25.806 --> 01:14:26.103
well,

2379
01:14:26.509 --> 01:14:26.821
you know,

2380
01:14:27.775 --> 01:14:29.009
if I lost Brandy,

2381
01:14:29.196 --> 01:14:29.931
heaven forbid,

2382
01:14:30.400 --> 01:14:32.150
I'd be a mess for the rest of my life.

2383
01:14:32.181 --> 01:14:36.243
And I know several people that have lost someone close to them and never are the same again.

2384
01:14:37.608 --> 01:14:40.133
I'm not saying that Erica's ever going to be the same again.

2385
01:14:40.533 --> 01:14:41.074
However,

2386
01:14:41.797 --> 01:14:42.738
something has happened,

2387
01:14:42.836 --> 01:14:43.156
I think,

2388
01:14:43.199 --> 01:14:47.488
within Erica with Charlie's loss that is making her better.

2389
01:14:47.863 --> 01:14:50.293
He is lifting her up even though he's not here.

2390
01:14:50.747 --> 01:14:51.067
Erica,

2391
01:14:51.268 --> 01:14:52.408
the Turning Porn organization,

2392
01:14:52.609 --> 01:14:53.529
every friend he ever had,

2393
01:14:53.711 --> 01:14:55.371
they'll never be the same with him gone.

2394
01:14:55.590 --> 01:14:56.973
But every last one of them is stronger.

2395
01:14:57.332 --> 01:14:58.035
There's no question.

2396
01:14:59.152 --> 01:15:00.574
They're stronger because of their respect.

2397
01:15:00.575 --> 01:15:02.340
They want to pay to him posthumously.

2398
01:15:02.441 --> 01:15:04.441
But even more than that,

2399
01:15:07.129 --> 01:15:08.832
they feel a sense of responsibility.

2400
01:15:08.926 --> 01:15:13.973
Charlie tried convincing everybody that ever listened to him about the responsibility of getting married,

2401
01:15:14.035 --> 01:15:14.863
of having kids,

2402
01:15:14.988 --> 01:15:16.551
of fighting for your country,

2403
01:15:17.019 --> 01:15:17.957
of educating people,

2404
01:15:17.958 --> 01:15:18.957
of having dialogue.

2405
01:15:19.715 --> 01:15:23.316
all these different things that were the strongest virtues of humanity.

2406
01:15:23.375 --> 01:15:23.597
I mean,

2407
01:15:23.676 --> 01:15:24.394
Charlie was,

2408
01:15:25.535 --> 01:15:25.797
you know,

2409
01:15:26.637 --> 01:15:27.754
one of humanity's finest,

2410
01:15:28.316 --> 01:15:28.754
you could say,

2411
01:15:28.777 --> 01:15:29.379
in every way.

2412
01:15:29.855 --> 01:15:36.426
And so everybody that's internalized that is now demonstrating that in themselves a little bit more.

2413
01:15:37.597 --> 01:15:40.332
It's why there was a revival around churches all over this country.

2414
01:15:40.535 --> 01:15:44.988
It's why the turnouts are the size that they are on universities in terms of the political side of the business.

2415
01:15:47.167 --> 01:15:59.540
And I think it's why people like you and I have connected and just had long conversations about life and things that really matter as opposed to text messages or phone calls or Instagram story posts or what have you.

2416
01:16:00.899 --> 01:16:03.384
That's a gift that Charlie left to tens of millions of people.

2417
01:16:03.790 --> 01:16:04.899
And I think it's a really,

2418
01:16:05.290 --> 01:16:06.228
really powerful thing.

2419
01:16:06.290 --> 01:16:06.446
And

2420
01:16:07.321 --> 01:16:09.853
Erica is the biggest receiver of that gift for sure.

2421
01:16:10.024 --> 01:16:10.728
It's fantastic.

2422
01:16:11.165 --> 01:16:11.290
I,

2423
01:16:12.118 --> 01:16:14.274
getting back to one of our favorite topics ever,

2424
01:16:14.368 --> 01:16:14.556
us.

2425
01:16:15.923 --> 01:16:16.904
I loved it when,

2426
01:16:16.964 --> 01:16:17.325
and this was,

2427
01:16:17.385 --> 01:16:18.165
I think it was last month,

2428
01:16:18.245 --> 01:16:19.446
where you invited me over to your office,

2429
01:16:19.447 --> 01:16:20.870
and to see your podcast studios and all that,

2430
01:16:20.871 --> 01:16:21.108
which is,

2431
01:16:21.167 --> 01:16:21.589
it's great.

2432
01:16:22.268 --> 01:16:25.971
We spent two hours on your couch and just hung out and shot the shit.

2433
01:16:26.675 --> 01:16:26.854
And

2434
01:16:27.315 --> 01:16:28.034
I left there,

2435
01:16:28.151 --> 01:16:28.815
and I go home,

2436
01:16:29.073 --> 01:16:29.878
and Brandy says,

2437
01:16:30.440 --> 01:16:31.300
and she knew I was going to see you.

2438
01:16:31.401 --> 01:16:31.815
And she said,

2439
01:16:31.839 --> 01:16:32.245
how was it?

2440
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:32.698
It was

2441
01:16:33.135 --> 01:16:33.542
Blake Wynn.

2442
01:16:33.635 --> 01:16:34.323
It was wonderful.

2443
01:16:35.229 --> 01:16:35.464
For me,

2444
01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:35.807
it's like,

2445
01:16:36.135 --> 01:16:38.807
hanging out with you is like Disney World of the brain.

2446
01:16:40.182 --> 01:16:41.135
It's wonderful.

2447
01:16:41.510 --> 01:16:41.729
Like,

2448
01:16:42.042 --> 01:16:42.635
it's just,

2449
01:16:43.245 --> 01:16:43.917
I'm better.

2450
01:16:44.245 --> 01:16:44.995
I'm smarter.

2451
01:16:46.192 --> 01:16:48.754
I feel listened to when I talk to you.

2452
01:16:49.114 --> 01:16:51.297
I feel like I've helped you become better.

2453
01:16:51.657 --> 01:16:53.098
So it's this 50-50,

2454
01:16:53.641 --> 01:16:55.360
but it's a symbiotic relationship.

2455
01:16:56.243 --> 01:16:57.500
I am not a God guy.

2456
01:16:57.625 --> 01:17:01.368
The Mormons fucked me up a long time ago from being with them for 13 years.

2457
01:17:01.407 --> 01:17:03.125
So I'm not a God guy,

2458
01:17:03.547 --> 01:17:05.766
but I do believe that there's a higher power that's there.

2459
01:17:06.250 --> 01:17:09.157
I equate it more to like the cantina scene in Star Wars.

2460
01:17:09.672 --> 01:17:14.360
I think that there's some table where there's like a quorum of people or things and they're depending on,

2461
01:17:14.627 --> 01:17:15.228
What's going on?

2462
01:17:15.229 --> 01:17:17.570
This is what's going to happen in this person's world and this planet and all that.

2463
01:17:17.651 --> 01:17:18.512
I believe in that.

2464
01:17:18.590 --> 01:17:19.613
Someone had to create all this stuff.

2465
01:17:20.313 --> 01:17:25.477
But the fact that we were brought together in such an awful way,

2466
01:17:25.961 --> 01:17:27.859
but how our friendship has grown.

2467
01:17:28.781 --> 01:17:29.500
And again,

2468
01:17:29.602 --> 01:17:32.781
we get so caught up in text messaging people where

2469
01:17:33.281 --> 01:17:36.406
I'd rather just frequently check on you just really quick.

2470
01:17:36.688 --> 01:17:39.078
But then also like every month or every other month,

2471
01:17:39.172 --> 01:17:40.516
just come by and say hi.

2472
01:17:41.453 --> 01:17:43.594
And it's wonderful that we're both at.

2473
01:17:43.711 --> 01:17:46.755
parts of our lives where when I'm with you for two hours,

2474
01:17:46.934 --> 01:17:47.995
my phone's on do not disturb.

2475
01:17:48.936 --> 01:17:49.796
My wife knows where I am.

2476
01:17:50.038 --> 01:17:50.620
If she needs me,

2477
01:17:50.639 --> 01:17:51.299
she can come get me.

2478
01:17:52.878 --> 01:17:53.659
She has one of those

2479
01:17:54.120 --> 01:17:55.823
Life 360 trackers on me,

2480
01:17:56.120 --> 01:17:57.463
which I think is hilarious.

2481
01:17:58.128 --> 01:17:58.628
I love it.

2482
01:17:59.049 --> 01:18:00.385
A lot of people get offended by it.

2483
01:18:00.386 --> 01:18:00.604
I'm like,

2484
01:18:00.620 --> 01:18:01.401
I have nothing to hide.

2485
01:18:01.495 --> 01:18:02.885
She can see where I am at all times.

2486
01:18:03.057 --> 01:18:04.245
I'm flattered by that,

2487
01:18:04.807 --> 01:18:05.573
that she sees me.

2488
01:18:06.448 --> 01:18:06.917
And the kids,

2489
01:18:06.932 --> 01:18:07.479
she does it too.

2490
01:18:07.495 --> 01:18:07.760
So I'm like,

2491
01:18:08.010 --> 01:18:08.917
I'm there with her daughter.

2492
01:18:09.042 --> 01:18:09.682
I love that.

2493
01:18:10.213 --> 01:18:12.698
But I love that people need to do more.

2494
01:18:12.931 --> 01:18:13.752
interpersonal,

2495
01:18:14.453 --> 01:18:15.554
turn your phone off,

2496
01:18:16.015 --> 01:18:18.597
go see a friend and just talk with no,

2497
01:18:19.257 --> 01:18:19.999
there's no agenda.

2498
01:18:20.519 --> 01:18:20.999
There's no agenda.

2499
01:18:21.023 --> 01:18:21.663
We get together.

2500
01:18:21.679 --> 01:18:22.320
It's more just like,

2501
01:18:22.343 --> 01:18:23.078
let's just talk.

2502
01:18:23.242 --> 01:18:23.859
How are you?

2503
01:18:24.023 --> 01:18:24.804
How are you doing?

2504
01:18:25.046 --> 01:18:26.062
What's going on in your life?

2505
01:18:26.523 --> 01:18:26.742
You know,

2506
01:18:26.804 --> 01:18:27.187
personally,

2507
01:18:27.226 --> 01:18:27.945
professionally,

2508
01:18:28.828 --> 01:18:35.460
we need to get back to more of that because it's so easy to doom scroll and look at,

2509
01:18:35.507 --> 01:18:40.257
which a lot of times is manufactured content to get you to react to it in a,

2510
01:18:40.320 --> 01:18:40.554
you know,

2511
01:18:40.555 --> 01:18:40.742
in a,

2512
01:18:40.820 --> 01:18:41.960
in a hurtful way.

2513
01:18:42.511 --> 01:18:44.032
We need to get away from that stuff.

2514
01:18:44.693 --> 01:18:47.855
And so I love just your style.

2515
01:18:48.718 --> 01:18:49.699
I'm a fan of just,

2516
01:18:50.378 --> 01:18:51.277
we've said this before,

2517
01:18:52.378 --> 01:18:54.761
you are the oldest soul I've ever met in my life.

2518
01:18:55.222 --> 01:18:55.620
Because you're what,

2519
01:18:55.621 --> 01:18:56.144
26,

2520
01:18:56.324 --> 01:18:56.667
25?

2521
01:18:56.668 --> 01:18:56.925
25,

2522
01:18:56.926 --> 01:18:57.245
yeah.

2523
01:18:57.246 --> 01:18:58.527
At 25,

2524
01:18:58.528 --> 01:18:59.511
you're like in your 50s,

2525
01:18:59.542 --> 01:18:59.792
man,

2526
01:19:00.011 --> 01:19:00.667
in a good way.

2527
01:19:01.074 --> 01:19:04.574
Because you're like this like bluesy jazz,

2528
01:19:05.074 --> 01:19:05.308
like,

2529
01:19:05.699 --> 01:19:05.933
you know,

2530
01:19:05.995 --> 01:19:08.480
guitarist that you'd find in like New Orleans,

2531
01:19:08.839 --> 01:19:11.902
who's in some dive place that's been there when he's like 90 years old.

2532
01:19:12.147 --> 01:19:12.908
You just go in and go,

2533
01:19:12.928 --> 01:19:13.388
God damn,

2534
01:19:13.409 --> 01:19:15.069
this guy just fucking shreds.

2535
01:19:15.549 --> 01:19:17.151
That's you intellectually.

2536
01:19:17.694 --> 01:19:18.034
And so

2537
01:19:18.874 --> 01:19:19.893
I love to see that.

2538
01:19:20.116 --> 01:19:21.139
And I will,

2539
01:19:21.538 --> 01:19:23.116
to my dying breath,

2540
01:19:23.858 --> 01:19:24.819
try to encourage,

2541
01:19:25.280 --> 01:19:25.538
help,

2542
01:19:25.577 --> 01:19:27.420
and mentor you as much as I can.

2543
01:19:28.897 --> 01:19:32.366
Because I just love the way that you attract good people.

2544
01:19:33.085 --> 01:19:36.553
And everyone that you're working with are better from it.

2545
01:19:37.147 --> 01:19:38.288
Like for you to have your business,

2546
01:19:38.569 --> 01:19:41.038
you haven't fired anybody in the first of the year.

2547
01:19:41.488 --> 01:19:41.608
Yeah.

2548
01:19:41.728 --> 01:19:42.310
That's pretty good.

2549
01:19:43.073 --> 01:19:43.735
That's pretty good.

2550
01:19:44.679 --> 01:19:46.483
I want to talk to you about Tulsi.

2551
01:19:47.167 --> 01:19:47.386
Okay.

2552
01:19:48.569 --> 01:19:48.710
She,

2553
01:19:48.811 --> 01:19:49.093
to me,

2554
01:19:49.530 --> 01:19:49.858
is...

2555
01:19:50.878 --> 01:19:51.258
I mean,

2556
01:19:51.259 --> 01:19:52.198
her story is unbelievable.

2557
01:19:52.859 --> 01:19:54.439
And she's one of the smartest people in the room.

2558
01:19:55.538 --> 01:19:57.941
Do you think that a lot of times,

2559
01:19:59.257 --> 01:20:00.663
why is it that with Tulsi Gabbard,

2560
01:20:01.038 --> 01:20:03.538
she's playing chess when everyone else is playing checkers?

2561
01:20:04.280 --> 01:20:04.460
Well,

2562
01:20:04.702 --> 01:20:07.859
she's the highest ranking security officer in the country.

2563
01:20:08.062 --> 01:20:11.077
So you'd hope that she was doing something a little different than everybody else.

2564
01:20:12.718 --> 01:20:14.343
She's so intelligent.

2565
01:20:15.062 --> 01:20:17.890
She is the most pure.

2566
01:20:18.638 --> 01:20:20.761
public service official that I've ever met.

2567
01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:22.222
When you run for something,

2568
01:20:22.663 --> 01:20:23.581
you're serving people.

2569
01:20:24.245 --> 01:20:25.503
Most of them are serving themselves.

2570
01:20:25.605 --> 01:20:29.167
And I'm not saying they're serving themselves by buying stocks and all that kind of stuff.

2571
01:20:29.206 --> 01:20:30.292
Some of them actually do that too.

2572
01:20:30.831 --> 01:20:32.550
But they're serving their egos,

2573
01:20:32.551 --> 01:20:33.675
they're serving their families.

2574
01:20:33.691 --> 01:20:34.292
It's their career.

2575
01:20:34.839 --> 01:20:35.870
And by the way,

2576
01:20:36.183 --> 01:20:38.136
I'm not saying it's also a bad thing to serve yourself.

2577
01:20:38.652 --> 01:20:40.105
Most human beings need to do that.

2578
01:20:40.199 --> 01:20:44.183
Why would you work a job and earn money and have kids if you weren't trying to serve yourself and your family,

2579
01:20:44.277 --> 01:20:44.480
right?

2580
01:20:44.808 --> 01:20:45.167
Of course,

2581
01:20:45.168 --> 01:20:45.808
it's great to serve the...

2582
01:20:45.970 --> 01:20:47.371
greater good as well on top of that,

2583
01:20:47.392 --> 01:20:48.331
if you're so fortunate.

2584
01:20:49.574 --> 01:20:49.695
Look,

2585
01:20:49.773 --> 01:20:51.695
she has been deployed three times.

2586
01:20:51.937 --> 01:20:56.538
She is still in the reserves right now as sitting DNI director of his country.

2587
01:20:57.921 --> 01:20:58.742
She's in the reserves.

2588
01:20:59.281 --> 01:20:59.945
And by the way,

2589
01:20:59.984 --> 01:21:00.562
to the Mideast,

2590
01:21:01.445 --> 01:21:02.624
she doesn't go to Guam and hang out.

2591
01:21:02.671 --> 01:21:02.921
I mean,

2592
01:21:03.062 --> 01:21:05.265
she's gone to the Mideast and she's been fully deployed.

2593
01:21:05.952 --> 01:21:08.859
You see videos of her all the time on Instagram running around with staccatos.

2594
01:21:08.860 --> 01:21:09.015
I mean,

2595
01:21:09.016 --> 01:21:09.952
she's got a perfect shot,

2596
01:21:09.999 --> 01:21:10.577
the whole thing.

2597
01:21:12.499 --> 01:21:14.421
if she was told that the best...

2598
01:21:14.742 --> 01:21:17.864
things she could do for this country was be the janitor for the Oval Office.

2599
01:21:17.865 --> 01:21:18.786
She would do in a second.

2600
01:21:19.184 --> 01:21:21.548
She's there to genuinely serve people.

2601
01:21:22.610 --> 01:21:26.591
She ran for president as a Democrat and is now DNI on the Republican side.

2602
01:21:26.770 --> 01:21:27.052
I mean,

2603
01:21:27.231 --> 01:21:28.638
you talk about a person who's just,

2604
01:21:28.653 --> 01:21:29.075
you know what,

2605
01:21:29.380 --> 01:21:29.778
I'm ready.

2606
01:21:29.974 --> 01:21:31.122
I'm here to help the country.

2607
01:21:31.231 --> 01:21:32.341
She's not looking for a job.

2608
01:21:32.466 --> 01:21:33.263
She doesn't need a job.

2609
01:21:34.388 --> 01:21:35.981
She's got a wonderful husband.

2610
01:21:35.982 --> 01:21:36.216
I mean,

2611
01:21:36.309 --> 01:21:38.091
one of the things I would say about Tulsi is,

2612
01:21:38.341 --> 01:21:38.591
you know,

2613
01:21:39.231 --> 01:21:39.466
again,

2614
01:21:39.528 --> 01:21:43.184
it's one of those things where you get a gist for a person when you see who's closest to them.

2615
01:21:44.410 --> 01:21:45.692
Now she's got Secret Service,

2616
01:21:45.693 --> 01:21:46.211
the whole thing.

2617
01:21:46.692 --> 01:21:47.294
Prior to that,

2618
01:21:47.393 --> 01:21:48.776
her head of security was her sister,

2619
01:21:48.874 --> 01:21:52.096
who was a former deputy reserve,

2620
01:21:52.178 --> 01:21:52.838
I forget what,

2621
01:21:54.057 --> 01:21:55.323
but a fighter just like Tulsi.

2622
01:21:55.940 --> 01:21:58.768
And her husband is a hell of a producer.

2623
01:21:58.769 --> 01:21:59.206
In fact,

2624
01:22:00.331 --> 01:22:00.768
what's it called?

2625
01:22:00.831 --> 01:22:01.487
Chief of War,

2626
01:22:01.690 --> 01:22:03.909
the new show on Apple TV that's been a total hit.

2627
01:22:03.924 --> 01:22:04.846
I know it's in the top 10.

2628
01:22:04.893 --> 01:22:05.752
I don't know what it's ranked.

2629
01:22:05.753 --> 01:22:07.346
I think it was three or four or something.

2630
01:22:07.393 --> 01:22:08.752
I just started the other night.

2631
01:22:09.159 --> 01:22:10.252
He was the producer of the show,

2632
01:22:11.612 --> 01:22:12.721
or one of the co-producers of the show.

2633
01:22:12.982 --> 01:22:15.646
So he's an unbelievably talented videographer and everything like that.

2634
01:22:15.905 --> 01:22:17.267
When she was on the campaign trail,

2635
01:22:17.607 --> 01:22:18.567
he was her videographer.

2636
01:22:18.907 --> 01:22:20.087
So who's Tulsi closest to?

2637
01:22:20.509 --> 01:22:21.509
Her husband or her sister?

2638
01:22:22.009 --> 01:22:25.876
And she's running around being one of the most important presidential surrogates in the country.

2639
01:22:26.454 --> 01:22:27.978
That speaks volumes.

2640
01:22:28.493 --> 01:22:29.212
And the time,

2641
01:22:30.103 --> 01:22:31.181
she's one that is,

2642
01:22:32.603 --> 01:22:32.837
I mean,

2643
01:22:33.665 --> 01:22:35.899
I have no business relationship with Tulsi Gabbard.

2644
01:22:36.009 --> 01:22:38.149
She is just a really amazing,

2645
01:22:38.165 --> 01:22:38.868
amazing friend,

2646
01:22:39.103 --> 01:22:39.853
no different than you.

2647
01:22:39.931 --> 01:22:42.571
We have dinner and just enjoy each other's company.

2648
01:22:44.588 --> 01:22:45.568
she's a real human being.

2649
01:22:45.809 --> 01:22:46.029
You know,

2650
01:22:46.110 --> 01:22:46.830
politicians,

2651
01:22:47.549 --> 01:22:49.053
it's hard to have a three-hour dinner with a politician.

2652
01:22:49.072 --> 01:22:49.553
It's boring.

2653
01:22:49.733 --> 01:22:50.795
Even if you're fascinated by him,

2654
01:22:50.912 --> 01:22:53.959
you can sit there and ask him about politics and pretend like you're Jesse Waters for a dinner,

2655
01:22:54.358 --> 01:22:55.897
but it's not that fascinating.

2656
01:22:57.240 --> 01:22:58.123
You sit there with Tulsi,

2657
01:22:58.443 --> 01:23:02.365
and you're talking about what shows you're watching on Netflix when you have time to see TV.

2658
01:23:02.522 --> 01:23:05.881
You're talking about the things that make you laugh,

2659
01:23:06.022 --> 01:23:07.193
the things that you've learned.

2660
01:23:07.350 --> 01:23:07.615
You know,

2661
01:23:07.756 --> 01:23:09.365
I'm not talking about politics.

2662
01:23:09.397 --> 01:23:11.693
I don't care what's going on in Virginia at that point.

2663
01:23:11.702 --> 01:23:12.002
building,

2664
01:23:12.042 --> 01:23:14.723
which I know is probably just a disgusting mess,

2665
01:23:14.803 --> 01:23:15.563
even with her there.

2666
01:23:17.541 --> 01:23:21.541
But she's playing chess because she's representing what the American people want to do.

2667
01:23:21.901 --> 01:23:25.424
The American people look at the government and largely have a strong distrust for them.

2668
01:23:26.307 --> 01:23:27.143
And she's saying,

2669
01:23:27.463 --> 01:23:28.291
that is a problem.

2670
01:23:28.588 --> 01:23:30.729
I am an American and I also distrust the government.

2671
01:23:31.151 --> 01:23:35.369
I'm going to come in and I'm going to expose the deep state if the president affords me the opportunity.

2672
01:23:35.666 --> 01:23:36.791
That's what the president did.

2673
01:23:37.213 --> 01:23:38.073
And that's what she's doing.

2674
01:23:38.088 --> 01:23:38.651
And every day,

2675
01:23:39.026 --> 01:23:39.291
different.

2676
01:23:39.618 --> 01:23:41.520
bombshells come out of the DNI's office.

2677
01:23:41.561 --> 01:23:41.901
Granted,

2678
01:23:43.323 --> 01:23:45.682
a lot of the mainstream media doesn't want to pick it up and share it,

2679
01:23:45.983 --> 01:23:48.948
but enough of the country is hearing about it to know how important it is.

2680
01:23:49.588 --> 01:23:51.252
And regardless of how much the country hears about it,

2681
01:23:51.291 --> 01:23:53.612
that's not really her prerogative.

2682
01:23:53.995 --> 01:23:55.135
She is one of those people.

2683
01:23:55.354 --> 01:23:56.659
Charlie is one of those people.

2684
01:23:56.752 --> 01:23:57.955
The president's one of those people.

2685
01:23:58.518 --> 01:24:03.784
You're one of those people that is going to leave the world a better place than when you came into it.

2686
01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:06.909
And that is...

2687
01:24:07.150 --> 01:24:08.111
That is the legacy.

2688
01:24:08.291 --> 01:24:09.453
That is the objective.

2689
01:24:09.733 --> 01:24:11.293
That is everything that she,

2690
01:24:11.594 --> 01:24:12.317
more than anybody else,

2691
01:24:12.318 --> 01:24:13.418
I think really fights for.

2692
01:24:15.020 --> 01:24:16.856
She is an enigma to me.

2693
01:24:17.402 --> 01:24:18.004
And I love it.

2694
01:24:18.481 --> 01:24:19.621
Just watching her,

2695
01:24:21.668 --> 01:24:23.043
her story is unbelievable.

2696
01:24:23.871 --> 01:24:26.121
Like her story is going to be one hell of a movie one day.

2697
01:24:26.371 --> 01:24:26.512
Yeah.

2698
01:24:26.731 --> 01:24:27.887
And her husband will produce it.

2699
01:24:28.074 --> 01:24:29.184
And her husband will produce it.

2700
01:24:29.512 --> 01:24:31.574
And Apple will pay him gobs of money for it.

2701
01:24:31.575 --> 01:24:32.356
Not that they want the money,

2702
01:24:32.371 --> 01:24:33.309
but holy shit balls.

2703
01:24:34.214 --> 01:24:38.157
It's just amazing when you look at her story.

2704
01:24:38.657 --> 01:24:42.301
And for anyone that you talk about the DEI stuff,

2705
01:24:42.341 --> 01:24:43.762
it doesn't matter that she's a woman,

2706
01:24:43.841 --> 01:24:46.903
but the fact that being raised by a single mom,

2707
01:24:47.606 --> 01:24:52.192
it's pretty goddamn cool what she's done and what she's just the tip of the iceberg.

2708
01:24:52.739 --> 01:24:53.208
How old is she?

2709
01:24:53.614 --> 01:24:54.520
41 or 42.

2710
01:24:54.536 --> 01:24:54.661
Yeah,

2711
01:24:54.676 --> 01:24:55.395
she's a baby.

2712
01:24:55.942 --> 01:24:56.770
She's a baby.

2713
01:24:57.098 --> 01:25:00.505
She's got a long time left of serving this country,

2714
01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.176
but we are so much better for having her.

2715
01:25:03.558 --> 01:25:05.079
in the position that she's in right now.

2716
01:25:05.100 --> 01:25:06.901
And I think there's much greater things for her in the future.

2717
01:25:08.483 --> 01:25:08.722
You know,

2718
01:25:08.784 --> 01:25:09.765
but wow.

2719
01:25:10.206 --> 01:25:11.468
Like we were texting before,

2720
01:25:11.765 --> 01:25:12.608
like I love her brain.

2721
01:25:13.990 --> 01:25:20.698
I love her brain of just the way she just navigates through stuff and is always looking like a lot like Trump,

2722
01:25:21.018 --> 01:25:25.003
talking to other people about their opinions before she goes ahead and does something.

2723
01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:28.628
She's one of the finest human beings I know.

2724
01:25:28.847 --> 01:25:28.964
You,

2725
01:25:29.487 --> 01:25:29.807
Erica,

2726
01:25:30.604 --> 01:25:30.948
Tulsi,

2727
01:25:30.949 --> 01:25:34.745
a couple other people are in a bucket by yourselves in my mind.

2728
01:25:36.839 --> 01:25:39.276
Not that I don't look up to you and certainly Tulsi,

2729
01:25:39.339 --> 01:25:39.901
these kinds of people,

2730
01:25:39.902 --> 01:25:40.995
for what they do professionally,

2731
01:25:41.073 --> 01:25:43.432
but you look up to them for the content of their character.

2732
01:25:44.602 --> 01:25:45.883
That's how you judge everybody.

2733
01:25:46.183 --> 01:25:46.322
Yeah.

2734
01:25:47.142 --> 01:25:47.383
You know,

2735
01:25:47.783 --> 01:25:48.103
I have,

2736
01:25:48.322 --> 01:25:49.904
the way I judge people is,

2737
01:25:49.924 --> 01:25:51.103
especially if they have a family,

2738
01:25:52.084 --> 01:25:53.928
is their relationship with their spouse,

2739
01:25:54.342 --> 01:25:55.443
their relationship with their kids.

2740
01:25:55.646 --> 01:25:55.764
Yeah.

2741
01:25:56.287 --> 01:25:59.225
How do they react if you're at a party and it's a kid-friendly party?

2742
01:25:59.607 --> 01:26:02.912
If I'm talking with you and you have kids and we're talking and one of your kids comes up,

2743
01:26:03.193 --> 01:26:04.490
do you ignore that kid?

2744
01:26:04.506 --> 01:26:06.975
Do you shush that kid so we can keep talking?

2745
01:26:07.053 --> 01:26:10.115
Or do you stop immediately and focus all your attention on your child?

2746
01:26:10.662 --> 01:26:11.287
That's what you should do.

2747
01:26:11.615 --> 01:26:11.725
Yeah.

2748
01:26:12.412 --> 01:26:13.287
Is talk to your child.

2749
01:26:13.642 --> 01:26:14.582
That's the most important person.

2750
01:26:15.062 --> 01:26:17.922
You have a front row seat to raising this child.

2751
01:26:18.781 --> 01:26:22.785
It is your empirical duty to stop everything,

2752
01:26:23.066 --> 01:26:23.848
to listen to them.

2753
01:26:24.082 --> 01:26:25.301
Put the goddamn phone down,

2754
01:26:25.566 --> 01:26:26.402
turn the TV off,

2755
01:26:26.426 --> 01:26:27.027
whatever you're doing,

2756
01:26:27.028 --> 01:26:30.801
if your child comes to you and you listen to them with your body language and everything should be focused at them.

2757
01:26:31.238 --> 01:26:31.441
Yeah.

2758
01:26:31.442 --> 01:26:31.926
The whole thing.

2759
01:26:32.551 --> 01:26:34.926
And when you raise good kids,

2760
01:26:34.973 --> 01:26:36.863
that is the greatest feeling in the world.

2761
01:26:37.754 --> 01:26:38.426
Next to having a good,

2762
01:26:38.848 --> 01:26:39.082
you know,

2763
01:26:39.129 --> 01:26:40.723
to be married and have a good woman is,

2764
01:26:41.613 --> 01:26:42.254
oh my God,

2765
01:26:42.550 --> 01:26:42.830
All right,

2766
01:26:43.010 --> 01:26:43.770
last topic,

2767
01:26:44.731 --> 01:26:45.551
Mackenzie Dern.

2768
01:26:46.593 --> 01:26:46.729
Oh,

2769
01:26:46.753 --> 01:26:47.292
I love her.

2770
01:26:47.710 --> 01:26:47.831
So

2771
01:26:49.991 --> 01:26:50.733
I didn't meet her,

2772
01:26:50.772 --> 01:26:52.749
but when you were great at the last CPT,

2773
01:26:53.210 --> 01:26:53.874
she was there.

2774
01:26:53.913 --> 01:27:01.968
And I remember because you were taking me over to meet Frazier and she came up and you guys were talking for a second and moved on.

2775
01:27:02.858 --> 01:27:03.733
And I was like,

2776
01:27:03.968 --> 01:27:04.733
how do I know her?

2777
01:27:04.796 --> 01:27:05.249
And I looked up,

2778
01:27:05.608 --> 01:27:06.139
Mackenzie Dern.

2779
01:27:06.296 --> 01:27:06.561
Okay,

2780
01:27:06.780 --> 01:27:07.108
awesome.

2781
01:27:08.593 --> 01:27:09.499
What she just did,

2782
01:27:10.108 --> 01:27:10.811
oh my God,

2783
01:27:11.561 --> 01:27:11.811
right?

2784
01:27:12.038 --> 01:27:12.318
I mean,

2785
01:27:12.378 --> 01:27:18.065
to be 115 pounds and get an octagon and put that much damage on somebody.

2786
01:27:18.104 --> 01:27:18.565
And by the way,

2787
01:27:18.623 --> 01:27:20.190
she took a lot of damage as well.

2788
01:27:20.206 --> 01:27:20.424
I mean,

2789
01:27:20.690 --> 01:27:21.971
you'll see when you meet her at the CPT.

2790
01:27:22.010 --> 01:27:22.229
I mean,

2791
01:27:22.268 --> 01:27:23.112
she's going to have a big,

2792
01:27:23.612 --> 01:27:23.752
big,

2793
01:27:23.870 --> 01:27:24.791
big face going on.

2794
01:27:25.674 --> 01:27:25.909
I mean,

2795
01:27:25.932 --> 01:27:26.971
those two went at it.

2796
01:27:28.034 --> 01:27:29.237
And she became UFC champion.

2797
01:27:29.252 --> 01:27:29.440
I mean,

2798
01:27:29.502 --> 01:27:30.862
she beyond deserves it.

2799
01:27:31.502 --> 01:27:31.737
I mean,

2800
01:27:32.159 --> 01:27:32.377
again,

2801
01:27:32.471 --> 01:27:34.065
one of the nicest people you could ever meet.

2802
01:27:34.721 --> 01:27:34.846
She,

2803
01:27:35.127 --> 01:27:35.456
though,

2804
01:27:36.174 --> 01:27:36.424
again,

2805
01:27:36.456 --> 01:27:36.940
it's like,

2806
01:27:36.956 --> 01:27:37.549
here she is.

2807
01:27:37.877 --> 01:27:38.190
just,

2808
01:27:38.362 --> 01:27:38.627
I mean,

2809
01:27:39.246 --> 01:27:40.087
animalistic,

2810
01:27:40.348 --> 01:27:42.731
vicious human being when she steps in the octagon.

2811
01:27:43.691 --> 01:27:45.551
But she's basically a single mother.

2812
01:27:45.813 --> 01:27:49.094
She's divorced from a guy that she's very open about being a bit of a deadbeat.

2813
01:27:49.117 --> 01:27:50.274
She has to give him alimony.

2814
01:27:50.414 --> 01:27:50.938
She hates,

2815
01:27:51.258 --> 01:27:51.758
you know,

2816
01:27:51.759 --> 01:27:52.461
doesn't really like him.

2817
01:27:52.477 --> 01:27:53.422
She respects he's a father,

2818
01:27:53.461 --> 01:27:53.977
but she's got,

2819
01:27:53.978 --> 01:27:54.203
you know,

2820
01:27:54.219 --> 01:27:55.227
full custody of the kid and is,

2821
01:27:56.086 --> 01:27:56.320
you know,

2822
01:27:56.367 --> 01:27:58.899
always with her daughter and is a wonderful mom.

2823
01:27:59.445 --> 01:27:59.742
I mean,

2824
01:28:01.164 --> 01:28:02.524
she comes out for a championship fight.

2825
01:28:02.555 --> 01:28:02.727
I mean,

2826
01:28:03.367 --> 01:28:04.055
her daughter's there.

2827
01:28:04.086 --> 01:28:04.336
I mean,

2828
01:28:04.992 --> 01:28:05.367
by the way,

2829
01:28:05.711 --> 01:28:07.117
almost every UFC fighter,

2830
01:28:07.133 --> 01:28:08.758
by the time they're fighting for the championship belt,

2831
01:28:08.858 --> 01:28:09.318
They're usually,

2832
01:28:09.419 --> 01:28:10.119
they're not old,

2833
01:28:10.240 --> 01:28:10.660
but they're not

2834
01:28:11.041 --> 01:28:11.361
20.

2835
01:28:12.441 --> 01:28:13.482
Most of them have kids.

2836
01:28:13.603 --> 01:28:14.642
Colby Covington doesn't.

2837
01:28:14.904 --> 01:28:15.584
But I mean,

2838
01:28:16.427 --> 01:28:18.068
all the Brazilian guys pretty much do that.

2839
01:28:18.069 --> 01:28:18.724
You see fighting,

2840
01:28:18.810 --> 01:28:19.466
Dricius does.

2841
01:28:19.467 --> 01:28:19.646
I mean,

2842
01:28:19.647 --> 01:28:20.693
all these people have kids.

2843
01:28:21.474 --> 01:28:22.756
Where are they in the walkout?

2844
01:28:22.771 --> 01:28:23.896
Where are they at the press conference?

2845
01:28:23.912 --> 01:28:25.131
I know where Mackenzie's daughter is.

2846
01:28:25.662 --> 01:28:27.021
And she's that kind of person.

2847
01:28:27.052 --> 01:28:28.881
That's why she comes to CPT all the time.

2848
01:28:29.396 --> 01:28:29.881
She couldn't be,

2849
01:28:30.287 --> 01:28:30.396
yeah,

2850
01:28:30.459 --> 01:28:32.146
she couldn't be any sweeter.

2851
01:28:32.443 --> 01:28:32.677
You know,

2852
01:28:32.678 --> 01:28:33.709
it's so funny about Mackenzie.

2853
01:28:33.756 --> 01:28:35.740
She is one that genuinely loves poker.

2854
01:28:35.771 --> 01:28:36.724
That's why she comes all the time.

2855
01:28:36.725 --> 01:28:36.912
I mean,

2856
01:28:37.084 --> 01:28:37.631
we have a great...

2857
01:28:37.951 --> 01:28:38.453
personal relationship.

2858
01:28:38.454 --> 01:28:39.259
She loves poker.

2859
01:28:41.116 --> 01:28:41.877
She'll say things to me.

2860
01:28:41.897 --> 01:28:44.320
She's quiet.

2861
01:28:44.321 --> 01:28:44.760
She's Brazilian.

2862
01:28:44.761 --> 01:28:45.961
She's got that strong accent.

2863
01:28:45.962 --> 01:28:46.199
She says,

2864
01:28:47.160 --> 01:28:48.625
would you ever want Mark Zuckerberg to play?

2865
01:28:48.644 --> 01:28:48.945
I was like,

2866
01:28:49.043 --> 01:28:49.223
what?

2867
01:28:49.246 --> 01:28:51.043
Would you ever want Mark Zuckerberg to play?

2868
01:28:51.785 --> 01:28:51.949
Yeah,

2869
01:28:51.950 --> 01:28:53.168
I'd want Mark Zuckerberg to play.

2870
01:28:53.169 --> 01:28:53.730
That's a yes.

2871
01:28:54.308 --> 01:28:54.605
She's like,

2872
01:28:54.793 --> 01:28:54.910
well,

2873
01:28:54.911 --> 01:28:57.058
I'm going to Hawaii with him and his wife next week.

2874
01:28:57.105 --> 01:28:58.199
We're going to do some surfing.

2875
01:28:58.590 --> 01:29:00.574
I'll bring it up and I'll call you.

2876
01:29:01.137 --> 01:29:01.949
She doesn't end up calling me.

2877
01:29:01.980 --> 01:29:03.902
She comes back to Vegas after UFC fight.

2878
01:29:03.903 --> 01:29:04.402
She's at the Aria.

2879
01:29:04.433 --> 01:29:04.918
She calls me.

2880
01:29:04.919 --> 01:29:05.152
She's like,

2881
01:29:05.246 --> 01:29:05.387
hey,

2882
01:29:05.496 --> 01:29:05.746
Blake,

2883
01:29:05.747 --> 01:29:06.355
are you at the Aria?

2884
01:29:06.824 --> 01:29:07.387
I'm not right now.

2885
01:29:07.388 --> 01:29:07.496
Why?

2886
01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:07.965
Oh.

2887
01:29:08.648 --> 01:29:09.849
me and Mark are playing poker.

2888
01:29:09.869 --> 01:29:11.291
I just wanted to invite you to come hang.

2889
01:29:11.492 --> 01:29:11.812
I'm like,

2890
01:29:12.152 --> 01:29:12.754
I'll be right there.

2891
01:29:13.172 --> 01:29:13.453
You know,

2892
01:29:13.754 --> 01:29:14.836
unfortunately it wasn't a town,

2893
01:29:14.837 --> 01:29:15.375
so I didn't come.

2894
01:29:15.414 --> 01:29:16.359
But funny enough,

2895
01:29:16.375 --> 01:29:16.578
I said,

2896
01:29:16.594 --> 01:29:17.320
send me all the pictures.

2897
01:29:17.321 --> 01:29:19.078
Like I want to like post it and leak it and everything.

2898
01:29:20.398 --> 01:29:21.859
And then there's Mackenzie Dern and

2899
01:29:22.484 --> 01:29:25.719
Mark Zuckerberg playing poker for 2550.

2900
01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:26.828
But I tell you that story.

2901
01:29:27.922 --> 01:29:28.422
Awesome.

2902
01:29:28.423 --> 01:29:35.656
I tell you this story because you know what it takes to be a UFC fighter who's probably not stereotypically looked at as a brainiac.

2903
01:29:35.797 --> 01:29:36.328
Probably not.

2904
01:29:36.500 --> 01:29:38.803
definitely not stereotypically looked at as a nice person.

2905
01:29:38.862 --> 01:29:44.924
You literally fight and try and get as close to killing someone as possible without killing them for a living as it gets.

2906
01:29:45.971 --> 01:29:47.268
And she's got those kinds of friends.

2907
01:29:48.651 --> 01:29:51.393
Mark Zuckerberg could be friends with anybody in the world he wants to be friends with.

2908
01:29:51.495 --> 01:29:52.549
And he's friends with Mackenzie Dern.

2909
01:29:52.596 --> 01:29:53.956
I just think that speaks a lot of volumes.

2910
01:29:54.065 --> 01:29:58.659
I'm just trying to give you anecdotes to attest to the quality of her character,

2911
01:29:58.721 --> 01:30:00.565
but that is a wonderful human being.

2912
01:30:01.299 --> 01:30:03.581
I'm lucky to be friends with her and you'll be friends with her two in two,

2913
01:30:03.627 --> 01:30:04.034
three weeks.

2914
01:30:04.049 --> 01:30:04.174
Yeah,

2915
01:30:04.252 --> 01:30:04.909
I appreciate that.

2916
01:30:04.924 --> 01:30:05.956
She just...

2917
01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:07.080
I was like,

2918
01:30:07.081 --> 01:30:07.641
oh my God,

2919
01:30:07.821 --> 01:30:09.002
like she's just another one.

2920
01:30:09.023 --> 01:30:09.363
And again,

2921
01:30:09.844 --> 01:30:10.683
had me being a good mom,

2922
01:30:10.684 --> 01:30:11.523
you know,

2923
01:30:11.707 --> 01:30:12.668
her mom was at the event,

2924
01:30:13.246 --> 01:30:13.707
you know,

2925
01:30:14.129 --> 01:30:14.426
with her,

2926
01:30:14.469 --> 01:30:14.707
you know,

2927
01:30:14.871 --> 01:30:15.449
with her daughter.

2928
01:30:16.191 --> 01:30:16.668
I was just like,

2929
01:30:16.691 --> 01:30:17.394
oh my God.

2930
01:30:17.894 --> 01:30:18.832
And it's just,

2931
01:30:18.894 --> 01:30:20.410
and we'll finish up.

2932
01:30:20.472 --> 01:30:24.176
I just think that take social media out of it.

2933
01:30:24.613 --> 01:30:27.957
The world is still full of really good people.

2934
01:30:28.926 --> 01:30:34.785
This country is definitely full of really good people.

2935
01:30:35.363 --> 01:30:35.926
There's a lot of...

2936
01:30:36.120 --> 01:30:39.501
Blake wins in this world that love their country.

2937
01:30:40.321 --> 01:30:41.103
They're good people.

2938
01:30:41.142 --> 01:30:43.462
And they're looking to bring everyone around them up.

2939
01:30:44.384 --> 01:30:48.384
And the more we can stay off of social media,

2940
01:30:48.579 --> 01:30:49.767
this is coming from a podcaster,

2941
01:30:50.345 --> 01:30:55.728
coming off of social media and spend more time with interpersonal communication,

2942
01:30:56.243 --> 01:30:57.228
with face-to-face.

2943
01:30:57.712 --> 01:31:00.509
I think that we all should pick one or two people,

2944
01:31:00.603 --> 01:31:02.884
at least that once or twice a month,

2945
01:31:03.603 --> 01:31:04.431
get together with them.

2946
01:31:04.984 --> 01:31:05.925
Buy them a cup of coffee.

2947
01:31:06.085 --> 01:31:12.995
Stop by where they work or they come over to your office and just shoot the shit with no preconceived notions about anything.

2948
01:31:13.573 --> 01:31:14.753
You want nothing from them.

2949
01:31:14.917 --> 01:31:15.878
They want nothing from you.

2950
01:31:16.316 --> 01:31:18.300
You just want to talk and share space together.

2951
01:31:18.441 --> 01:31:18.675
I mean,

2952
01:31:18.995 --> 01:31:19.456
I got to say,

2953
01:31:20.222 --> 01:31:21.683
I've never done this since,

2954
01:31:22.823 --> 01:31:22.995
really,

2955
01:31:23.042 --> 01:31:24.808
since I got my first phone.

2956
01:31:25.245 --> 01:31:25.542
You know,

2957
01:31:25.761 --> 01:31:26.011
I mean,

2958
01:31:26.012 --> 01:31:26.886
since I got my first phone.

2959
01:31:26.887 --> 01:31:27.011
Now,

2960
01:31:27.027 --> 01:31:27.308
granted,

2961
01:31:27.339 --> 01:31:29.448
I've never been someone who's like abusive of screen time.

2962
01:31:29.542 --> 01:31:31.230
And the moments that I have been that way,

2963
01:31:31.231 --> 01:31:33.370
it's because it's what I do for work and that's how I'm working.

2964
01:31:33.417 --> 01:31:34.167
I'm not sitting there.

2965
01:31:35.120 --> 01:31:37.664
just scrolling my life away on social media.

2966
01:31:37.923 --> 01:31:39.683
It's not something that I've ever really enjoyed.

2967
01:31:42.246 --> 01:31:44.050
But for the first time a couple of weeks ago,

2968
01:31:44.449 --> 01:31:44.730
I said,

2969
01:31:44.731 --> 01:31:45.168
you know what,

2970
01:31:45.253 --> 01:31:46.550
in light of everything that happened with Charlie,

2971
01:31:46.574 --> 01:31:48.214
which was very tough for me and everything else,

2972
01:31:48.230 --> 01:31:49.558
I'm going to just put my phone away.

2973
01:31:49.793 --> 01:31:56.324
I'm going to go somewhere where I can kind of spend a couple days in nature and I really have no interest in taking anybody's phone call or anybody's text.

2974
01:31:56.699 --> 01:32:02.480
I put on the Do Not Disturb feature where I made it so 10 people could get through the Do Not Disturb feature.

2975
01:32:02.481 --> 01:32:02.949
And even that,

2976
01:32:02.964 --> 01:32:03.246
I left,

2977
01:32:03.293 --> 01:32:03.964
I would leave the room.

2978
01:32:04.400 --> 01:32:06.423
like leave my phone in the room and

2979
01:32:06.823 --> 01:32:08.585
I'd check it once or twice a day.

2980
01:32:08.586 --> 01:32:09.225
And that was it.

2981
01:32:09.284 --> 01:32:12.991
I probably was on my phone for seven to 10 minutes a day for the three,

2982
01:32:13.030 --> 01:32:14.327
four days that I went on this trip.

2983
01:32:16.389 --> 01:32:21.280
I will never go another four or five months in a row without doing that kind of thing again for the rest of my life.

2984
01:32:22.014 --> 01:32:22.155
Look,

2985
01:32:22.171 --> 01:32:22.639
at the end of the day,

2986
01:32:22.780 --> 01:32:25.139
you can't just disconnect yourself from the world if you're trying to run a business,

2987
01:32:25.233 --> 01:32:29.889
but to have those little pockets are so important where you're just fully present.

2988
01:32:29.921 --> 01:32:31.827
You can think without looking at a screen.

2989
01:32:32.374 --> 01:32:32.921
You can...

2990
01:32:33.604 --> 01:32:37.268
You can breathe while looking up at what nature,

2991
01:32:37.288 --> 01:32:37.846
whatever it is,

2992
01:32:37.909 --> 01:32:38.768
has to offer you.

2993
01:32:38.850 --> 01:32:44.737
You can taste your meal where you're thinking about the food or what you're going to order or what's going on in the world.

2994
01:32:44.776 --> 01:32:45.995
You don't have to write it down.

2995
01:32:45.996 --> 01:32:52.182
You don't have to do any of that kind of nonsense that everybody feels like is important because it's really not at the end of the day.

2996
01:32:53.448 --> 01:32:54.026
And I got to say,

2997
01:32:54.041 --> 01:32:54.323
I mean,

2998
01:32:56.166 --> 01:32:56.291
look,

2999
01:32:56.307 --> 01:32:58.963
there's different kinds of happy moments in life.

3000
01:32:59.026 --> 01:32:59.463
And by the way,

3001
01:32:59.495 --> 01:33:02.354
this was in a moment where I was really grieving and I'm still really grieving.

3002
01:33:04.384 --> 01:33:08.107
But it was one of the happiest couple days of my life for that reason.

3003
01:33:08.129 --> 01:33:08.969
It just felt like the,

3004
01:33:09.289 --> 01:33:10.148
it felt clean.

3005
01:33:10.652 --> 01:33:10.910
You know,

3006
01:33:11.109 --> 01:33:15.152
I've gotten to sit next to the president on election night when he found out he won.

3007
01:33:15.472 --> 01:33:16.996
I've gotten to be in the Oval Office.

3008
01:33:17.176 --> 01:33:20.433
I've gotten to be at CPT 10 times a year for the last two years.

3009
01:33:20.527 --> 01:33:23.355
I've gotten to be at weddings of people that I care about.

3010
01:33:23.402 --> 01:33:23.543
I've,

3011
01:33:23.621 --> 01:33:23.855
you know,

3012
01:33:24.246 --> 01:33:25.980
there's lots of moments in life that are really,

3013
01:33:26.043 --> 01:33:26.730
really happy.

3014
01:33:27.605 --> 01:33:28.590
But that was different.

3015
01:33:29.105 --> 01:33:30.886
And everybody should do it.

3016
01:33:30.933 --> 01:33:31.652
And by the way,

3017
01:33:32.128 --> 01:33:34.293
There were moments during that time where I felt a little uncomfortable.

3018
01:33:34.392 --> 01:33:36.236
I really wanted the phone or I wanted this,

3019
01:33:36.275 --> 01:33:36.877
I wanted that.

3020
01:33:36.878 --> 01:33:38.060
It felt like a true detox.

3021
01:33:38.259 --> 01:33:38.720
It was like,

3022
01:33:38.740 --> 01:33:39.201
I was like,

3023
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:39.740
right?

3024
01:33:40.185 --> 01:33:40.724
It's so funny.

3025
01:33:40.725 --> 01:33:40.943
I mean,

3026
01:33:40.944 --> 01:33:49.334
people think that you need like rehab or something if you're an alcoholic or if you like some drug too much or something like that or anger management or what have you.

3027
01:33:51.331 --> 01:33:55.992
I would say I would very confidently predict that at some point in the next decade,

3028
01:33:56.031 --> 01:33:59.336
whether it's a business or an organization or whatever it is,

3029
01:33:59.390 --> 01:34:00.390
not going to be me that does it,

3030
01:34:00.515 --> 01:34:02.734
but I do think it'd be a profound cause.

3031
01:34:03.117 --> 01:34:04.695
I think people need phone rehab,

3032
01:34:06.094 --> 01:34:06.375
really.

3033
01:34:06.937 --> 01:34:15.562
It's its own disease to spend nine hours a day on your phone if you are doing it to scroll and to just watch shit on YouTube or whatever it is.

3034
01:34:17.515 --> 01:34:19.031
Everything in life needs balance.

3035
01:34:19.899 --> 01:34:20.740
the problem is,

3036
01:34:20.960 --> 01:34:21.200
is,

3037
01:34:22.301 --> 01:34:22.522
I mean,

3038
01:34:22.563 --> 01:34:22.723
look,

3039
01:34:22.842 --> 01:34:24.543
you watch the transition the last 15 years,

3040
01:34:24.902 --> 01:34:28.090
people would balance their screen time with their,

3041
01:34:28.567 --> 01:34:29.309
when I was a kid,

3042
01:34:29.465 --> 01:34:29.848
it was like,

3043
01:34:30.051 --> 01:34:30.770
you go on your phone,

3044
01:34:30.848 --> 01:34:31.668
but then you go outside,

3045
01:34:31.669 --> 01:34:34.793
you jump on a trampoline or you go play football with your friends or basketball.

3046
01:34:35.074 --> 01:34:35.832
Then you go swimming.

3047
01:34:36.098 --> 01:34:37.113
Then you have dinner with your family.

3048
01:34:37.395 --> 01:34:38.301
Then you go back on the phone.

3049
01:34:38.317 --> 01:34:39.551
Maybe then you play Wii sports,

3050
01:34:39.676 --> 01:34:39.942
you know,

3051
01:34:39.957 --> 01:34:40.145
like,

3052
01:34:40.442 --> 01:34:40.598
sure,

3053
01:34:40.599 --> 01:34:41.535
you mix it in fine.

3054
01:34:42.207 --> 01:34:46.442
But then it's become the way to live life is through the phone.

3055
01:34:46.843 --> 01:34:47.043
Right?

3056
01:34:47.083 --> 01:34:47.304
I mean,

3057
01:34:47.384 --> 01:34:48.204
Meta and Zuckerberg,

3058
01:34:48.225 --> 01:34:48.405
I mean,

3059
01:34:48.406 --> 01:34:52.930
they're making glasses where literally they're trying to put that shit in your vision.

3060
01:34:54.309 --> 01:34:55.051
And I just think,

3061
01:34:55.309 --> 01:34:55.653
again,

3062
01:34:56.215 --> 01:34:56.817
as a tool,

3063
01:34:57.551 --> 01:34:57.817
use it.

3064
01:34:57.910 --> 01:34:58.293
You should.

3065
01:34:58.692 --> 01:34:59.051
It's great.

3066
01:34:59.075 --> 01:35:00.293
The technology's on our side.

3067
01:35:00.379 --> 01:35:01.856
We're all going to live longer as a result.

3068
01:35:01.918 --> 01:35:02.942
Medical is going to do better.

3069
01:35:02.957 --> 01:35:03.145
I mean,

3070
01:35:03.146 --> 01:35:03.864
all these other things.

3071
01:35:03.942 --> 01:35:06.660
But in terms of quality of life,

3072
01:35:06.707 --> 01:35:11.379
you're going to be on your deathbed and you're not going to be thinking about the shit that you scrolled by when you were 32 years old.

3073
01:35:11.426 --> 01:35:13.223
You're going to think about that trip you took to Hawaii.

3074
01:35:13.285 --> 01:35:14.067
You're going to think about...

3075
01:35:14.735 --> 01:35:18.335
That moment that you sat with the person and had lunch that was really interesting to you

3076
01:35:18.716 --> 01:35:24.240
I will remember till I die that breakfast that you and I shared that morning Which I wish I frankly kind of didn't but I will

3077
01:35:25.935 --> 01:35:26.841
But at the same time

3078
01:35:27.279 --> 01:35:30.654
I don't know that I could tell you for certain what I looked at on my phone this morning

3079
01:35:30.998 --> 01:35:32.576
You know and I and by the way have a really good memory,

3080
01:35:32.732 --> 01:35:34.482
but I still don't think I could you know what I mean

3081
01:35:35.076 --> 01:35:42.185
The impact is just missing and I think if you live a life where you lack impact You just start to go down a really slippery slope.

3082
01:35:42.326 --> 01:35:43.388
Those are the people that end up

3083
01:35:43.663 --> 01:35:48.947
drinking and doing marijuana or whatever else it is that they do that disassociate,

3084
01:35:49.049 --> 01:35:52.748
that don't end up in relationships or end up in very toxic ones and all these kinds of things.

3085
01:35:54.896 --> 01:35:55.131
And yeah,

3086
01:35:55.154 --> 01:35:55.475
I don't know.

3087
01:35:55.795 --> 01:36:00.857
I think living without the intent of being healthy is not a very good thing to do.

3088
01:36:01.420 --> 01:36:04.061
It's something that you need to practice it yourself.

3089
01:36:04.404 --> 01:36:05.217
If you have kids,

3090
01:36:05.248 --> 01:36:06.201
you need to teach them.

3091
01:36:07.061 --> 01:36:07.951
My son is nine.

3092
01:36:07.967 --> 01:36:08.873
He's in fourth grade.

3093
01:36:09.014 --> 01:36:11.107
Half of the kids in his class have phones.

3094
01:36:11.154 --> 01:36:11.795
He does not.

3095
01:36:13.731 --> 01:36:15.331
his mom and I co-parent very well.

3096
01:36:15.431 --> 01:36:16.571
We co-parent with it's,

3097
01:36:17.112 --> 01:36:17.751
you know,

3098
01:36:17.770 --> 01:36:18.634
the Roman Coliseum.

3099
01:36:18.712 --> 01:36:20.954
We're both thumbs up or if it's one thumbs down,

3100
01:36:20.955 --> 01:36:21.313
it's a no.

3101
01:36:22.036 --> 01:36:22.755
And she's asked me,

3102
01:36:22.809 --> 01:36:23.770
is it time to get him a phone?

3103
01:36:23.895 --> 01:36:24.013
No.

3104
01:36:25.036 --> 01:36:25.372
Nope.

3105
01:36:25.373 --> 01:36:27.911
Or get him a flip phone where you can call a number and there's no screen.

3106
01:36:27.912 --> 01:36:29.278
But then he'll get picked on even more.

3107
01:36:29.849 --> 01:36:30.333
Like he would get,

3108
01:36:31.302 --> 01:36:31.599
I did.

3109
01:36:31.661 --> 01:36:33.880
I even looked on verizon.com and I looked and it's like,

3110
01:36:33.881 --> 01:36:35.333
get him a burner phone for your nine year old.

3111
01:36:35.334 --> 01:36:35.911
Get him a burner phone.

3112
01:36:36.255 --> 01:36:36.755
But it's like,

3113
01:36:36.849 --> 01:36:37.255
oh no.

3114
01:36:37.536 --> 01:36:37.942
Cause I just,

3115
01:36:37.943 --> 01:36:38.395
the kids,

3116
01:36:38.411 --> 01:36:39.599
he would just get berated.

3117
01:36:39.677 --> 01:36:40.364
So I'm like,

3118
01:36:40.474 --> 01:36:40.599
no.

3119
01:36:41.552 --> 01:36:42.552
And he's with me.

3120
01:36:43.143 --> 01:36:43.924
Every other weekend,

3121
01:36:44.064 --> 01:36:44.385
and then

3122
01:36:45.025 --> 01:36:45.686
Wednesday, Thursdays,

3123
01:36:45.705 --> 01:36:46.207
and Fridays,

3124
01:36:47.129 --> 01:36:47.789
he's usually with us,

3125
01:36:48.090 --> 01:36:49.508
and with my wife and I,

3126
01:36:50.012 --> 01:36:50.652
and we have bikes.

3127
01:36:51.488 --> 01:36:53.051
He gets on his bike and rides around the neighborhood.

3128
01:36:54.230 --> 01:36:54.676
Yesterday,

3129
01:36:54.730 --> 01:36:55.676
one of the greatest things ever,

3130
01:36:56.777 --> 01:36:57.496
I get him from school,

3131
01:36:57.660 --> 01:36:57.918
bring him,

3132
01:36:57.919 --> 01:36:58.418
I had to work,

3133
01:36:58.801 --> 01:36:59.199
I get him,

3134
01:36:59.340 --> 01:37:01.809
I leave my car in the garage,

3135
01:37:02.027 --> 01:37:02.605
gets his bike,

3136
01:37:03.465 --> 01:37:04.340
and I thought he took off.

3137
01:37:04.762 --> 01:37:05.871
My Brandy comes home,

3138
01:37:05.965 --> 01:37:06.262
walks in,

3139
01:37:06.293 --> 01:37:06.402
goes,

3140
01:37:06.418 --> 01:37:06.871
where's Jack?

3141
01:37:07.246 --> 01:37:07.793
He's on his bike.

3142
01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:07.965
No,

3143
01:37:07.980 --> 01:37:08.293
he's not.

3144
01:37:08.294 --> 01:37:10.793
His bike's hanging up on the wall thing.

3145
01:37:11.371 --> 01:37:11.590
What?

3146
01:37:12.275 --> 01:37:12.856
I go out,

3147
01:37:13.036 --> 01:37:14.357
I'm shitting my pants because I'm like,

3148
01:37:14.398 --> 01:37:15.058
I've lost my son.

3149
01:37:15.779 --> 01:37:16.558
I'll get hell for this.

3150
01:37:17.718 --> 01:37:18.281
I look around the,

3151
01:37:18.843 --> 01:37:19.203
I'm like,

3152
01:37:19.204 --> 01:37:20.043
if I'm going to get in trouble,

3153
01:37:20.044 --> 01:37:20.781
it's going to be for this.

3154
01:37:21.101 --> 01:37:23.304
I look around the corner where the cul-de-sac is.

3155
01:37:23.547 --> 01:37:26.265
He's playing soccer in the cul-de-sac with three other kids.

3156
01:37:28.211 --> 01:37:28.445
Like,

3157
01:37:29.008 --> 01:37:29.258
I'm like,

3158
01:37:29.259 --> 01:37:29.773
this is good.

3159
01:37:30.414 --> 01:37:30.648
Yeah,

3160
01:37:30.711 --> 01:37:31.117
that is great.

3161
01:37:31.320 --> 01:37:31.992
This is good.

3162
01:37:32.273 --> 01:37:32.554
And

3163
01:37:33.492 --> 01:37:35.320
I encourage him now to either,

3164
01:37:35.883 --> 01:37:37.804
like he's reading all the Harry Potter books at nine.

3165
01:37:37.867 --> 01:37:38.836
So I'm like,

3166
01:37:39.023 --> 01:37:39.179
honey,

3167
01:37:39.195 --> 01:37:39.726
get your book out.

3168
01:37:40.117 --> 01:37:40.570
Read your book.

3169
01:37:40.983 --> 01:37:41.443
Because he'll say,

3170
01:37:41.444 --> 01:37:42.323
can I watch TV now?

3171
01:37:42.443 --> 01:37:42.564
No,

3172
01:37:42.583 --> 01:37:43.824
I want you to read for a little bit first.

3173
01:37:44.145 --> 01:37:45.244
Or did you go for a bike ride yet?

3174
01:37:45.545 --> 01:37:45.662
No,

3175
01:37:46.365 --> 01:37:46.483
go.

3176
01:37:47.686 --> 01:37:48.264
Will you come with me?

3177
01:37:48.826 --> 01:37:48.943
No,

3178
01:37:49.104 --> 01:37:49.322
you go.

3179
01:37:50.041 --> 01:37:50.549
You don't need me.

3180
01:37:51.268 --> 01:37:51.822
I want you to go.

3181
01:37:51.924 --> 01:37:52.869
We're in a good neighborhood.

3182
01:37:53.049 --> 01:37:53.486
You're fine.

3183
01:37:53.908 --> 01:37:54.283
Go ahead.

3184
01:37:54.846 --> 01:37:55.526
And he'll come back.

3185
01:37:55.783 --> 01:37:56.783
He takes his helmet off.

3186
01:37:56.807 --> 01:37:57.541
He's all sweaty,

3187
01:37:58.151 --> 01:37:58.510
dirty.

3188
01:37:59.010 --> 01:38:00.854
You want boys to be that way.

3189
01:38:01.151 --> 01:38:01.401
You know,

3190
01:38:01.729 --> 01:38:02.166
girls too.

3191
01:38:02.510 --> 01:38:03.447
But when you're nine,

3192
01:38:04.166 --> 01:38:05.135
I grew up that way.

3193
01:38:05.463 --> 01:38:06.291
My bike was my,

3194
01:38:06.666 --> 01:38:06.932
you know,

3195
01:38:07.026 --> 01:38:08.463
that's main source of transportation.

3196
01:38:08.963 --> 01:38:09.088
So,

3197
01:38:09.591 --> 01:38:11.153
I just think that it starts from home.

3198
01:38:12.034 --> 01:38:12.413
And

3199
01:38:13.074 --> 01:38:16.038
I would say this without even her being here.

3200
01:38:17.277 --> 01:38:19.222
And it's tough because my mom is gone.

3201
01:38:19.558 --> 01:38:25.667
The fact that your mom is here right now and she has done an incredible job raising you.

3202
01:38:26.824 --> 01:38:27.745
Unbelievable job.

3203
01:38:28.386 --> 01:38:28.714
And

3204
01:38:29.558 --> 01:38:32.792
I think that that is something that goes unnoticed a lot of times.

3205
01:38:33.511 --> 01:38:34.777
I get emotional about it because

3206
01:38:35.480 --> 01:38:37.683
I know that you cherish.

3207
01:38:37.815 --> 01:38:39.318
every second you spend with her.

3208
01:38:40.860 --> 01:38:48.055
You cherish every second that you get to spend time with your grandparents because there's going to be seconds in the future that are not going to be around.

3209
01:38:48.876 --> 01:38:49.813
And that's the worst.

3210
01:38:50.688 --> 01:38:53.231
And it's something that you appreciate.

3211
01:38:54.253 --> 01:38:55.772
And that is something most people don't do.

3212
01:38:56.272 --> 01:38:56.815
And for that,

3213
01:38:56.893 --> 01:38:58.655
you have my eternal respect.

3214
01:38:58.960 --> 01:38:59.077
And

3215
01:38:59.639 --> 01:39:00.639
I cherish you for that.

3216
01:39:02.116 --> 01:39:02.280
Well,

3217
01:39:02.780 --> 01:39:06.046
I think one of the great things that...

3218
01:39:06.905 --> 01:39:08.811
My mom and I had an interesting dynamic because

3219
01:39:09.967 --> 01:39:10.874
I had the opportunity,

3220
01:39:13.014 --> 01:39:13.686
very much so,

3221
01:39:14.796 --> 01:39:15.046
where...

3222
01:39:15.556 --> 01:39:17.316
You made the point that you think I'm 50,

3223
01:39:17.577 --> 01:39:18.536
even though I'm 25.

3224
01:39:18.537 --> 01:39:20.638
She used to always say I was four going on 40.

3225
01:39:20.716 --> 01:39:23.118
That was the age quote she would use.

3226
01:39:25.017 --> 01:39:28.196
But she did something that I don't know how you come up with doing as a parent.

3227
01:39:28.197 --> 01:39:29.860
It's a very clever thing,

3228
01:39:29.876 --> 01:39:30.642
I guess I could say,

3229
01:39:30.643 --> 01:39:31.813
because it seems to have worked out.

3230
01:39:31.907 --> 01:39:35.563
But I look at some of my friends and I think maybe it wouldn't have worked out if their parents had done that.

3231
01:39:35.595 --> 01:39:37.017
But she let me be 40,

3232
01:39:37.298 --> 01:39:38.298
like how you're doing with your son.

3233
01:39:38.517 --> 01:39:40.157
She let me go on bike rides by myself.

3234
01:39:40.188 --> 01:39:42.907
And those bike rides by myself led to me starting my business.

3235
01:39:45.148 --> 01:39:45.989
At the same time too,

3236
01:39:46.129 --> 01:39:47.170
you made the point about the phone.

3237
01:39:47.171 --> 01:39:48.272
I've got a counterpoint for you,

3238
01:39:48.813 --> 01:39:59.481
which is that it's good to let your kid go through adversity and to be bullied a little bit while you're also still there to provide a piece of counterbalance.

3239
01:40:00.262 --> 01:40:01.989
I had to more or less make a decision.

3240
01:40:02.145 --> 01:40:02.270
Now,

3241
01:40:02.301 --> 01:40:03.270
I wasn't nine.

3242
01:40:03.473 --> 01:40:04.567
Your child's in fourth grade,

3243
01:40:04.582 --> 01:40:04.770
right?

3244
01:40:04.848 --> 01:40:05.504
You're nine or 10.

3245
01:40:06.864 --> 01:40:07.364
I was older,

3246
01:40:07.723 --> 01:40:08.926
so maybe nine's not the right age.

3247
01:40:08.927 --> 01:40:11.192
So I'm not imposing any...

3248
01:40:11.500 --> 01:40:11.720
You're fine.

3249
01:40:11.721 --> 01:40:12.861
Judgment on the age thing.

3250
01:40:13.022 --> 01:40:14.243
I don't know what I would do with a nine-year-old.

3251
01:40:14.362 --> 01:40:14.782
Thank God.

3252
01:40:14.884 --> 01:40:15.786
I'm 25.

3253
01:40:15.787 --> 01:40:18.368
That means I would have started when I was the age that this came up.

3254
01:40:18.946 --> 01:40:21.927
But when I was 16 and I started doing YouTube,

3255
01:40:23.552 --> 01:40:28.614
all the first comments I got on videos were just as rude as people could type.

3256
01:40:28.771 --> 01:40:29.005
I mean,

3257
01:40:29.021 --> 01:40:29.864
if they came up with it,

3258
01:40:29.896 --> 01:40:30.880
it went down on the screen.

3259
01:40:30.881 --> 01:40:31.192
And by the way,

3260
01:40:31.193 --> 01:40:32.114
there's only a couple comments,

3261
01:40:32.146 --> 01:40:33.302
and they were all just really rude.

3262
01:40:34.380 --> 01:40:40.083
And my mom wanted to have me shut my YouTube down because the comments were really rude.

3263
01:40:40.848 --> 01:40:41.168
And

3264
01:40:42.450 --> 01:40:45.051
I wouldn't have had the wherewithal at 16 to say this,

3265
01:40:45.571 --> 01:40:45.692
but

3266
01:40:46.415 --> 01:40:47.493
I genuinely didn't care.

3267
01:40:47.836 --> 01:40:48.254
And I would say,

3268
01:40:48.555 --> 01:40:49.094
I don't care.

3269
01:40:49.579 --> 01:40:50.118
They're watching,

3270
01:40:50.119 --> 01:40:51.094
they're leaving a comment.

3271
01:40:51.375 --> 01:40:51.977
It'll change.

3272
01:40:51.978 --> 01:40:52.782
If I become big,

3273
01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:53.602
it'll change.

3274
01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:56.938
You're not going to become famous with only people that hate you.

3275
01:40:57.438 --> 01:40:58.032
You know what I mean?

3276
01:40:58.047 --> 01:40:59.782
You're not going to end up building an audience like that.

3277
01:40:59.844 --> 01:41:01.266
So that'll change over time.

3278
01:41:02.250 --> 01:41:02.563
And

3279
01:41:02.954 --> 01:41:04.110
I have to imagine as a mother,

3280
01:41:04.111 --> 01:41:04.469
it's really,

3281
01:41:04.532 --> 01:41:07.954
really hard to watch what you think is your gift to the world be just.

3282
01:41:08.208 --> 01:41:11.252
absolutely slammed every opportunity the world gets.

3283
01:41:12.111 --> 01:41:15.334
But she let that happen while I was still at home.

3284
01:41:16.318 --> 01:41:17.295
And as a result,

3285
01:41:18.357 --> 01:41:18.560
again,

3286
01:41:18.599 --> 01:41:19.599
I wouldn't have said it back then.

3287
01:41:20.482 --> 01:41:21.459
I realize it now,

3288
01:41:21.802 --> 01:41:22.341
but it's like,

3289
01:41:23.021 --> 01:41:24.287
but she wasn't slamming me.

3290
01:41:24.709 --> 01:41:26.646
And like her opinion is the one that mattered to me.

3291
01:41:27.131 --> 01:41:28.568
My grandparents weren't slamming me.

3292
01:41:28.881 --> 01:41:30.006
Steve wasn't slamming me.

3293
01:41:31.412 --> 01:41:33.193
My best friends in school weren't slamming me.

3294
01:41:34.006 --> 01:41:34.631
Other people were,

3295
01:41:35.099 --> 01:41:35.709
you know what I mean?

3296
01:41:35.881 --> 01:41:36.193
And so

3297
01:41:36.928 --> 01:41:39.510
You made the point about getting your kid the burner phone and getting bullied.

3298
01:41:40.371 --> 01:41:41.274
You have an opportunity,

3299
01:41:41.371 --> 01:41:42.051
maybe not at nine,

3300
01:41:42.293 --> 01:41:43.496
and maybe you don't want them having a phone anyways.

3301
01:41:43.594 --> 01:41:43.996
Fair enough.

3302
01:41:44.114 --> 01:41:45.254
That's a silly example.

3303
01:41:45.395 --> 01:41:45.598
But

3304
01:41:46.715 --> 01:41:53.879
I do think it's advantageous to let your kids go through that when you're there because they will become the kind of person that says,

3305
01:41:54.082 --> 01:41:56.364
whose opinions actually matter to me and whose don't.

3306
01:41:56.426 --> 01:42:03.036
And that is the fundamental reason why social media causes so many mental issues for so many people is they haven't had those opportunities.

3307
01:42:04.692 --> 01:42:05.520
It's the same reason why,

3308
01:42:05.911 --> 01:42:06.129
you know,

3309
01:42:06.130 --> 01:42:06.551
Yeah.

3310
01:42:06.712 --> 01:42:07.954
I get this question all the time,

3311
01:42:08.073 --> 01:42:09.555
which to me is like,

3312
01:42:09.715 --> 01:42:10.715
it's a fair question,

3313
01:42:11.016 --> 01:42:13.618
but it's kind of one that I scoff off because it's so silly,

3314
01:42:13.739 --> 01:42:15.044
which is you post,

3315
01:42:15.504 --> 01:42:15.723
you know,

3316
01:42:15.724 --> 01:42:20.301
a picture of you and Trump and a picture of you and Erica Kirk and a picture of you and this person on social media.

3317
01:42:20.965 --> 01:42:22.028
How do you deal with the hate?

3318
01:42:22.029 --> 01:42:23.645
Do you not get tons of hate in your DMs?

3319
01:42:23.661 --> 01:42:24.176
You're not get this,

3320
01:42:24.192 --> 01:42:24.770
you're not get that.

3321
01:42:24.926 --> 01:42:25.208
I'm like,

3322
01:42:26.708 --> 01:42:28.067
I don't even know if I do or don't.

3323
01:42:28.395 --> 01:42:29.598
And even if I read the comments,

3324
01:42:29.911 --> 01:42:30.176
I mean,

3325
01:42:30.801 --> 01:42:30.911
yeah.

3326
01:42:31.098 --> 01:42:35.379
So a comment says that I'm a fascist and I'm supposed to be deeply hurt.

3327
01:42:36.052 --> 01:42:39.116
My mom thinks it's really cool that I've met the president of the United States.

3328
01:42:39.136 --> 01:42:40.975
My grandfather is quite proud of that fact.

3329
01:42:41.436 --> 01:42:42.198
I leave it at that.

3330
01:42:42.839 --> 01:42:44.397
That's the opinion that resonates,

3331
01:42:44.436 --> 01:42:44.679
right?

3332
01:42:44.718 --> 01:42:44.999
And so,

3333
01:42:46.866 --> 01:42:47.100
you know,

3334
01:42:47.186 --> 01:42:47.343
look,

3335
01:42:47.585 --> 01:42:48.007
I just,

3336
01:42:48.968 --> 01:42:50.163
you know,

3337
01:42:50.164 --> 01:42:51.186
grew up where,

3338
01:42:52.171 --> 01:42:52.405
again,

3339
01:42:53.530 --> 01:42:55.671
I would never go as far as a call to comeback story.

3340
01:42:55.827 --> 01:42:56.968
It's always been really good.

3341
01:42:57.028 --> 01:42:59.288
but it's always been really good because I've always had my mom,

3342
01:42:59.348 --> 01:43:00.649
because I've always had my grandparents,

3343
01:43:00.710 --> 01:43:03.708
because I've always had those couple of really close friends who to this day,

3344
01:43:03.790 --> 01:43:04.891
22 years into my life,

3345
01:43:04.950 --> 01:43:06.372
out of 25 or 26 years,

3346
01:43:06.911 --> 01:43:08.169
are still my closest friends.

3347
01:43:09.067 --> 01:43:14.309
That was enough to prevent you from feeling like you're at rock bottom at any given moment.

3348
01:43:14.466 --> 01:43:20.419
I had a period of my life where I lived in a 15,000 square foot house with live-in support,

3349
01:43:20.528 --> 01:43:23.919
which is like the most absurd way to grow up that you could probably ever dream up.

3350
01:43:23.920 --> 01:43:24.997
And then I had parts where...

3351
01:43:25.436 --> 01:43:27.918
Me and her lived in a hotel room side by side,

3352
01:43:27.939 --> 01:43:29.140
like at the Red Rock Hotel,

3353
01:43:29.601 --> 01:43:30.683
where you're in a,

3354
01:43:30.722 --> 01:43:31.722
what's a room at the Red Rocks?

3355
01:43:31.723 --> 01:43:32.101
Have 100,

3356
01:43:32.102 --> 01:43:32.843
800 square feet,

3357
01:43:32.882 --> 01:43:33.304
if that.

3358
01:43:33.785 --> 01:43:33.902
If.

3359
01:43:34.402 --> 01:43:35.386
I was no less happy.

3360
01:43:35.425 --> 01:43:37.347
I was not at rock bottom sitting at the Red Rock.

3361
01:43:37.832 --> 01:43:38.488
I had a good mom.

3362
01:43:38.527 --> 01:43:43.113
I was like going to the arcade with like my friend after school and like could go to get Panda Express at 4 p.m.

3363
01:43:43.191 --> 01:43:43.879
Like we,

3364
01:43:44.394 --> 01:43:45.863
whatever situations we ever had in life,

3365
01:43:46.269 --> 01:43:47.582
we always just made them awesome.

3366
01:43:47.583 --> 01:43:47.800
I mean,

3367
01:43:47.957 --> 01:43:48.191
you know,

3368
01:43:48.192 --> 01:43:48.535
it's funny.

3369
01:43:48.675 --> 01:43:50.629
I've actually gotten in arguments with friends.

3370
01:43:51.175 --> 01:43:51.660
And frankly,

3371
01:43:51.722 --> 01:43:52.175
it's ended.

3372
01:43:52.639 --> 01:43:54.822
personal romantic relationships of mine,

3373
01:43:55.601 --> 01:43:59.967
I do not do well with people who have a glass is half empty outlook on life.

3374
01:44:00.588 --> 01:44:02.010
I was raised with a glass is half.

3375
01:44:02.072 --> 01:44:04.174
I was raised with a glass is just full.

3376
01:44:04.353 --> 01:44:05.049
And if it's not full,

3377
01:44:05.088 --> 01:44:07.330
then fucking go get the water pitcher and start dumping.

3378
01:44:07.572 --> 01:44:07.838
Amen.

3379
01:44:07.839 --> 01:44:08.432
You know what I mean?

3380
01:44:09.213 --> 01:44:09.541
And so,

3381
01:44:10.978 --> 01:44:11.385
yeah,

3382
01:44:12.541 --> 01:44:13.635
no,

3383
01:44:14.057 --> 01:44:16.416
you always have gratitude for those things.

3384
01:44:16.588 --> 01:44:19.088
It's why you have gratitude for the moments you get to spend with them.

3385
01:44:19.166 --> 01:44:20.010
It's why everybody should.

3386
01:44:22.563 --> 01:44:22.723
But,

3387
01:44:23.804 --> 01:44:24.044
you know,

3388
01:44:24.364 --> 01:44:26.347
I've been aware enough to know that my whole life.

3389
01:44:26.366 --> 01:44:28.269
I think most people who are in that position are too.

3390
01:44:28.390 --> 01:44:33.753
I don't think that's a virtue of mine that I was aware that things have been good because of the people that I'm close to.

3391
01:44:34.136 --> 01:44:36.698
People that have a strong support system recognize it.

3392
01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:40.284
People that don't have a strong support system also recognize it.

3393
01:44:40.675 --> 01:44:41.784
And they aspire to have it.

3394
01:44:41.785 --> 01:44:43.659
They just maybe unfortunately don't know how to get it.

3395
01:44:43.660 --> 01:44:47.784
And the number one thing that I can suggest as to how to get it is forget friends,

3396
01:44:47.847 --> 01:44:48.612
forget networking,

3397
01:44:48.628 --> 01:44:49.503
forget all those things.

3398
01:44:49.628 --> 01:44:51.175
Go get five people.

3399
01:44:51.499 --> 01:44:54.401
that you are down to just have as many dinners with,

3400
01:44:54.462 --> 01:44:56.103
as many text conversations,

3401
01:44:56.806 --> 01:44:58.427
work together on a side business,

3402
01:44:58.466 --> 01:44:59.528
just whatever it is,

3403
01:44:59.888 --> 01:45:00.388
get three,

3404
01:45:00.528 --> 01:45:00.747
four,

3405
01:45:00.888 --> 01:45:01.646
five people.

3406
01:45:02.450 --> 01:45:03.411
Everybody can do it,

3407
01:45:04.591 --> 01:45:05.153
and start there.

3408
01:45:05.489 --> 01:45:07.778
And then change those people out as they deserve to be changed out,

3409
01:45:07.794 --> 01:45:08.153
by the way.

3410
01:45:08.419 --> 01:45:09.216
You can't be scared.

3411
01:45:09.372 --> 01:45:10.685
If anybody's ever holding you back,

3412
01:45:11.731 --> 01:45:16.841
you gotta be okay with keeping forward with putting one foot in front of the other.

3413
01:45:17.497 --> 01:45:17.981
Ever hear of the,

3414
01:45:18.200 --> 01:45:18.825
there's a comic,

3415
01:45:19.044 --> 01:45:19.653
Joey Diaz?

3416
01:45:20.544 --> 01:45:20.966
He's great.

3417
01:45:21.251 --> 01:45:36.723
good friends with rogan and he's a he's a jersey guy big guy with a gravelly voice and he's got i'll send you the clip but he has a a bit that he says you give me three hard-charging motherfuckers that are friends of mine we could take over a fucking country and it's there's

3418
01:45:36.824 --> 01:45:49.145
truth to be told about that that if you have your ride or dies with you there's nothing yeah that can stop you and i agree with what you said i mean i'm because i'm always like i'll listen

3419
01:45:49.643 --> 01:45:49.783
Right.

3420
01:45:49.803 --> 01:45:51.564
Like regarding like my son with a phone and all that.

3421
01:45:51.906 --> 01:45:52.326
I'll listen.

3422
01:45:52.625 --> 01:45:54.789
I need to think about it because it's,

3423
01:45:55.688 --> 01:45:57.211
the options are no phone,

3424
01:45:57.934 --> 01:45:58.051
the

3425
01:45:58.551 --> 01:45:59.770
Al-Qaeda burner phone,

3426
01:46:01.293 --> 01:46:01.598
you know.

3427
01:46:01.652 --> 01:46:04.699
With an air tag taped on the back to give him life 360 by yourself.

3428
01:46:04.700 --> 01:46:05.441
With a Faraday bag,

3429
01:46:05.559 --> 01:46:05.793
like,

3430
01:46:05.918 --> 01:46:06.199
you know,

3431
01:46:06.652 --> 01:46:12.090
he can't get tracked or he gets an iPhone where unfortunately with an iPhone,

3432
01:46:12.324 --> 01:46:14.293
he can watch porn and beheading videos,

3433
01:46:15.090 --> 01:46:15.324
you know,

3434
01:46:15.387 --> 01:46:17.152
and he's smart enough to find that stuff.

3435
01:46:17.418 --> 01:46:17.730
Yeah.

3436
01:46:17.793 --> 01:46:18.105
And so,

3437
01:46:19.295 --> 01:46:19.796
That's just,

3438
01:46:19.876 --> 01:46:20.476
as a dad,

3439
01:46:20.556 --> 01:46:22.939
what's one of the things now I wrestle with.

3440
01:46:23.099 --> 01:46:25.620
And instead of talking about phones with him,

3441
01:46:26.523 --> 01:46:27.644
I double down on,

3442
01:46:27.941 --> 01:46:28.644
go ride your bike,

3443
01:46:29.066 --> 01:46:29.488
read a book,

3444
01:46:29.823 --> 01:46:30.503
let's play chess.

3445
01:46:31.409 --> 01:46:32.066
Yeah.

3446
01:46:32.067 --> 01:46:32.269
You know,

3447
01:46:32.308 --> 01:46:32.925
let's go for a walk together.

3448
01:46:32.926 --> 01:46:33.425
Great thing to do.

3449
01:46:33.706 --> 01:46:33.909
Right?

3450
01:46:33.948 --> 01:46:34.089
Like,

3451
01:46:34.253 --> 01:46:35.831
let's go for a walk together and talk to me.

3452
01:46:36.316 --> 01:46:37.425
One of the best compliments,

3453
01:46:37.738 --> 01:46:38.675
he said it to me twice.

3454
01:46:39.363 --> 01:46:41.894
And him and I floss together whenever he's with me.

3455
01:46:41.941 --> 01:46:43.394
We're accountability partners to floss.

3456
01:46:44.081 --> 01:46:44.613
And he's like,

3457
01:46:44.659 --> 01:46:45.019
dad,

3458
01:46:45.097 --> 01:46:45.253
yeah,

3459
01:46:45.363 --> 01:46:45.878
floss.

3460
01:46:46.019 --> 01:46:46.284
And so,

3461
01:46:46.363 --> 01:46:46.706
and I go,

3462
01:46:46.847 --> 01:46:47.628
we floss together.

3463
01:46:48.339 --> 01:46:49.801
And I was flossing with him last week.

3464
01:46:49.802 --> 01:46:50.121
He said,

3465
01:46:50.161 --> 01:46:50.381
dad,

3466
01:46:50.422 --> 01:46:50.582
I go,

3467
01:46:50.583 --> 01:46:50.701
yeah,

3468
01:46:50.742 --> 01:46:50.902
honey.

3469
01:46:50.941 --> 01:46:51.222
He goes,

3470
01:46:51.662 --> 01:46:52.804
you're a really cool dad.

3471
01:46:55.527 --> 01:46:56.008
I bawled,

3472
01:46:56.465 --> 01:46:56.847
I bawled.

3473
01:46:57.371 --> 01:46:57.988
And I'm a crier.

3474
01:46:57.989 --> 01:46:59.152
When it comes to people I love,

3475
01:46:59.949 --> 01:47:00.527
I'm a baller.

3476
01:47:00.668 --> 01:47:01.433
And I just,

3477
01:47:01.496 --> 01:47:02.090
it was like,

3478
01:47:02.316 --> 01:47:05.793
cause I was having a bad day and he did that.

3479
01:47:06.090 --> 01:47:06.980
And everything just went,

3480
01:47:07.933 --> 01:47:08.324
I'm good.

3481
01:47:09.152 --> 01:47:10.574
Everything else can go away.

3482
01:47:11.215 --> 01:47:12.808
My son thinks I'm cool.

3483
01:47:14.511 --> 01:47:15.511
End of line.

3484
01:47:15.746 --> 01:47:16.980
That's all that matters to me.

3485
01:47:17.903 --> 01:47:18.163
You know,

3486
01:47:18.244 --> 01:47:19.984
my wife is my best friend.

3487
01:47:20.525 --> 01:47:21.426
End of line.

3488
01:47:21.887 --> 01:47:23.047
Nothing else matters to me.

3489
01:47:23.629 --> 01:47:25.129
I have you as one of my dear,

3490
01:47:25.250 --> 01:47:26.250
dear friends now.

3491
01:47:26.969 --> 01:47:27.891
Nothing else matters.

3492
01:47:28.109 --> 01:47:28.914
End of line.

3493
01:47:30.258 --> 01:47:31.055
Thank you for coming in.

3494
01:47:31.297 --> 01:47:31.414
Yeah,

3495
01:47:31.476 --> 01:47:32.016
thanks for having me.

3496
01:47:32.017 --> 01:47:32.922
It's been a lot of fun.

3497
01:47:33.875 --> 01:47:35.844
You have an open seat here whenever you want to come in.

3498
01:47:36.562 --> 01:47:37.016
Anytime.

3499
01:47:37.281 --> 01:47:37.547
You know,

3500
01:47:37.609 --> 01:47:39.609
whenever you've got something that you want to get off your chest.

3501
01:47:40.703 --> 01:47:40.828
Let,

3502
01:47:40.829 --> 01:47:41.062
you know,

3503
01:47:41.078 --> 01:47:42.062
get your ass back in here.

3504
01:47:42.391 --> 01:47:42.844
Anytime.

3505
01:47:43.031 --> 01:47:44.016
Hopefully this is good for people.

3506
01:47:45.016 --> 01:47:45.391
We'll see.

3507
01:47:45.516 --> 01:47:46.875
If the 45 people that watch it.

3508
01:47:47.584 --> 01:47:47.745
Yeah,

3509
01:47:48.166 --> 01:47:49.350
now you've got a great audience.

3510
01:47:49.391 --> 01:47:50.393
I'm sure people will tune in.

3511
01:47:50.495 --> 01:47:50.754
Thank you,

3512
01:47:50.774 --> 01:47:50.895
sir.

3513
01:47:51.135 --> 01:47:51.276
Yeah,

3514
01:47:51.455 --> 01:47:51.659
thanks,

3515
01:47:51.698 --> 01:47:51.897
Jeff.